Comments by "Ming Muyiyang" (@mingmuyiyang8615) on "China Observer"
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Western perspective: According to the information disclosed by the Helsinki Military Academy, the Battle of Shangganling ended on November 25, 1952. In this earth-shaking bloody battle, on the high ground that could only accommodate two companies (up to 300 people), the Chinese army successively deployed 9 regiments of two elite field armies, plus 2,000 new recruits, 11 artillery battalions, and a rocket artillery battalion. A total of more than 43,000 people, the Chinese Volunteer Army consumed a total of 450,000 bombs.
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What is a real war? The "Battle of Shanghai" took place from August 13, 1937 to November 26, 1937. China had 180 aircraft, 40 tanks, and 0 warships. The Japanese army had 500 aircraft, 300 tanks, and 130 warships. The Battle of Shanghai (also known as the Battle of August 13, the Second Battle of Shanghai, and the Second Shanghai Incident in Japan) was the first large-scale battle between China and Japan in the War of Resistance against Japan, and it was also the largest and most brutal battle in the entire Sino-Japanese War.
In the Battle of Shanghai, a total of about 1 million troops from China and Japan were involved in the battle. The battle itself lasted for three months. The Japanese army deployed 9 divisions and 220,000 troops, with more than 90,000 casualties; the Chinese army deployed 73 divisions and more than 700,000 troops, with more than 250,000 casualties.
The Battle of Shanghai forced the Japanese army to shift its strategic main attack direction and shattered Japan's plan to "destroy China in three months."
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@bwhog I hope Indians will read it carefully and experience it with their hearts. The huge difference in the founding of China and India is destined to be the biggest difference between India and China. Just look at the modern history of the two countries and you will understand. India was colonized by Britain for more than 200 years. In 1947, Britain experienced World War II, its strength declined greatly, and its status was replaced by the United States. India took the opportunity to gain independence through "non-violent non-cooperation". In other words, India's independence has not experienced the test of blood and fire. Such an independent country has no cohesion and willpower, and no national identity. Now let's talk about China. Since 1840, the Chinese people have been living in dire straits. Various disasters and wars have followed one after another. At that time, China was very poor and backward, and suffered all kinds of humiliation. Including the cession of Hong Kong and Macau, Taiwan became a Japanese colony, the burning of the Old Summer Palace by the Eight-Power Allied Forces, and the subsequent comprehensive and brutal invasion of China by Japan. In 1931, Japan launched a full-scale invasion war against China. From 1931 to 1945, the war lasted for 14 years. The Chinese army and civilians rose up to resist, fought bloody battles for 14 years, and suffered 30 million casualties, but finally won. Do you know why China suffered so many casualties? There are hundreds of reasons. I will only give one example: when the Chinese troops encountered the Japanese army, it was often the case that if there were 100 Chinese soldiers in the battle, the Chinese soldiers only had 20 to 30 guns. The remaining soldiers would not give up resistance or surrender. They used machetes, steel forks, and wooden sticks to bravely fight against the machine guns and cannons in the hands of the Japanese army until they died. This spirit of facing death and never retreating is the Chinese spirit. 30 million casualties! Do you think this can happen in India? For India, there are zero casualties, because India's knees are soft. India will give up resistance soon. Do you know why there is "Nanjing"? Because of the desperate resistance of the Chinese army and civilians, never surrendering and never giving up. After Japan broke through Nanjing, it was first to vent its anger, and secondly to scare off other Chinese soldiers and civilians who were resisting. But all this not only did not scare off any Chinese, but further aroused the Chinese people's resistance. Do you know why the Chinese national flag is red? That's because the founding of New China was paid for by the blood of countless Chinese ancestors, and we Chinese will always remember it. From 1945 to 1949, there was a civil war in China, and the Kuomintang fled to Taiwan. Originally, the Chinese people thought they could live a long-awaited peaceful life, but in 1950, the Korean War broke out and lasted for three years. The Chinese Volunteer Army successfully resisted the US route to the north without air superiority, sea superiority, backward army equipment, and extremely poor logistics, and our price was the loss of hundreds of thousands of brave PLA soldiers. In 1962, in the eyes of us Chinese, it was not a war at all. First of all, the time was only 32 days, and secondly, from 1959 to 1961, China experienced the most difficult three years since the founding of the People's Republic of China, and many people starved to death in China during these three years. In 1962, India's economy far surpassed China. The United States, the Soviet Union, and Britain all supported India. At that time, India implemented the "Forward Policy" and attacked China with elite troops. We Chinese really don't want to fight. The Chinese troops that fought with India in 1962 were ordinary border defense troops, not regular PLA. In China, soldiers are called "the cutest people". There is a Chinese proverb: Without a country, there is no home. Soldiers are the backbone of the country. Thanks to our brave People's Liberation Army soldiers, who are always ready to defend the borders of the motherland. No matter how India's military develops, it can't surpass China. Whether in the past, present or future, China can always defeat India. This is determined by the history and culture of the two countries. The Chinese people pay attention to the spirit of dedication and sacrifice. Don't surrender, don't yield, fight to the death, and see death as home on the battlefield. It is a huge shame for Chinese soldiers to surrender on the battlefield, and the spirit of dying rather than surrendering is deeply engraved in the bones of every Chinese. These are what Indians don't have. Therefore, even now or in the future, India will never be able to defeat China. Now, do you think India can stand in the world like China? Absolutely not.
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@bwhog I hope Indians will read it carefully and experience it with their hearts. The huge difference in the founding of China and India is destined to be the biggest difference between India and China. Just look at the modern history of the two countries and you will understand. India was colonized by Britain for more than 200 years. In 1947, Britain experienced World War II, its strength declined greatly, and its status was replaced by the United States. India took the opportunity to gain independence through "non-violent non-cooperation". In other words, India's independence has not experienced the test of blood and fire. Such an independent country has no cohesion and willpower, and no national identity. Now let's talk about China. Since 1840, the Chinese people have been living in dire straits. Various disasters and wars have followed one after another. At that time, China was very poor and backward, and suffered all kinds of humiliation. Including the cession of Hong Kong and Macau, Taiwan became a Japanese colony, the burning of the Old Summer Palace by the Eight-Power Allied Forces, and the subsequent comprehensive and brutal invasion of China by Japan. In 1931, Japan launched a full-scale invasion war against China. From 1931 to 1945, the war lasted for 14 years. The Chinese military and civilians rose up to resist and fought bloody battles for fourteen years, with 30 million Chinese military and civilians killed or wounded, but ultimately won the victory.
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@bwhog Do you know why China suffered so many casualties? There are hundreds of reasons. I will only give one example: when Chinese troops encountered Japanese troops, it was often the case that if there were 100 Chinese soldiers, they only had 20 to 30 guns. The remaining soldiers would not give up resistance or surrender. They used machetes, steel forks, and wooden sticks to bravely fight against the machine guns and cannons in the hands of the Japanese army until they died. This spirit of facing death and never retreating is the Chinese spirit. 30 million casualties! Do you think this can happen in India? For India, it is zero casualties, because India's knees are soft. India will give up resistance soon. Do you know why there is "Nanjing"? Because of the desperate resistance of the Chinese military and civilians, never surrendering and never giving up. After Japan broke through Nanjing, it was first to vent its anger, and secondly to scare off other Chinese soldiers and civilians who were resisting. But all this not only did not scare off any Chinese, but it further aroused the resistance of the Chinese people. Do you know why the Chinese national flag is red? That is because the founding of New China was achieved with the blood of countless Chinese ancestors, and we Chinese will always remember it.
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@bwhog From 1945 to 1949, the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang fled to Taiwan. Originally, the Chinese people thought they could live a long-awaited peaceful life, but in 1950, the Korean War broke out and lasted for three years. The Chinese People's Volunteer Army successfully resisted the US route to the north without air superiority, sea superiority, backward army equipment, and extremely poor logistics, but our price was the loss of hundreds of thousands of brave PLA soldiers. In 1962, in the eyes of us Chinese, it was not a war at all. First of all, the time was only 32 days, and secondly, from 1959 to 1961, China experienced the most difficult three years since the founding of the People's Republic of China, and many people starved to death in China during these three years. In 1962, India's economy far exceeded that of China. The United States, the Soviet Union, and Britain all supported India. At that time, India implemented the "Forward Policy" and attacked China with elite troops. We Chinese really don't want to fight. The Chinese troops that fought with India in 1962 were ordinary border defense troops, not regular PLA.
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@bwhog In China, soldiers are called "the cutest people". There is a Chinese proverb: Without a country, there is no home. Soldiers are the backbone of the country. Thanks to our brave People's Liberation Army soldiers, who are always ready to defend the borders of the motherland. No matter how India's military develops, it will never surpass China. Whether in the past, present or future, China can always defeat India. This is determined by the history and culture of the two countries. The Chinese people pay attention to the spirit of dedication and sacrifice. Do not surrender, do not yield, fight to the death, and see death as home on the battlefield. It is a huge shame for Chinese soldiers to surrender on the battlefield. The spirit of dying rather than surrendering is deeply engraved in the bones of every Chinese. These are what Indians do not have. Therefore, even now or in the future, India will never be able to defeat China. Now, do you think India can stand in the world like China? Absolutely not.
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@bwhog Finally, I will give you a small summary: without history, and begging for independence from Britain, you are doomed to have no cohesion, no willpower, and no national identity (the continuous terrorist attacks, bloody religious conflicts, and bloody ethnic conflicts since 1947 are proof of this). And the army established by a country like India is also doomed to have no combat effectiveness. On the other hand, China's history and the founding of the new China have doomed the cohesion, willpower, and national identity of the Chinese people. These three elements have enabled the Chinese People's Liberation Army to have the spirit of selfless dedication, the spirit of self-sacrifice, and the fearless spirit to complete the mission. These three spirits have given the Chinese People's Liberation Army soldiers an iron will and shaped the Chinese People's Liberation Army's unparalleled strong combat effectiveness. And all of this is something you will never have.
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In 1979, on the first day of the Sino-Vietnamese War, 220,000 PLA soldiers completely suppressed 130,000 Vietnamese troops. In 28 days, the Chinese suffered nearly 30,000 casualties, and the Vietnamese suffered 57,000 casualties. China entered the vicinity of Hanoi, the capital of Vietnam. In China, the "Self-Defense Counterattack War against Vietnam" is defined as a small-scale battle. Throughout the 1980s, China and Vietnam started a 10-year border war (21,754 Chinese casualties and 103,725 Vietnamese casualties). It ended with Vietnam compensating China for a large area of territory.
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@DanielDeBenoit The Battle of Changjin Lake in the Korean War. This was a battle in the early days of the Korean War. From November 27 to December 24, 1950 (just 28 days), a direct confrontation took place in the Changjin Lake area of North Korea. The US military included the 1st Marine Division (abbreviated as the 1st Marine Division) and the 3rd and 7th Infantry Divisions, as well as the 1st Army of South Korea, with a total of about 100,000 people; the 9th Corps of the Chinese People's Volunteer Army, which launched the attack, consisted of the 20th Army, the 26th Army and the 27th Army, with nearly 150,000 people. (This is the data of the battle between the two sides, and this is the scale of the war). In the 28-day "Changjin Lake" battle, the US military suffered 19,843 casualties, and the Chinese Volunteer Army suffered a total of 48,156 casualties. In just 28 days, the total casualties of both sides were close to 70,000. This is how fierce the war was.
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Being poor is not an excuse for failure. China 1931-1945. 14 years, 30 million people. Never yield, never retreat, never capitulate, never give up. There is a Chinese proverb: Without a country, there is no home. Soldiers are the backbone of the country. Thanks to our brave soldiers of the People's Liberation Army, who are always ready to defend the borders of the motherland. Whether in the past, present or future. Chinese people pay attention to the spirit of dedication and sacrifice. Never surrender, never yield, fight to the death, and see death as home. It is a great shame for Chinese soldiers to surrender on the battlefield. The spirit of dying rather than surrendering is deeply engraved in the bones of every Chinese.
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In 1950, China's GDP was 4% of that of the United States. During the three-year Korean War, the Chinese People's Volunteer Army entered Korea to fight in various units with 1.9 million troops, and nearly 500,000 additional troops, totaling 2.4 million (only the army, 225 tanks). Check how much military force the United States invested in the Korean War. During the three-year Korean War, 1.796 million Americans entered Korea to fight. The United States has deployed a total of 1,153,000 army troops (1,823 tanks), 241,000 air forces (a total of 3,000 combat aircraft, with more than 1,700 aircraft on the battlefield at the same time), 130,000 marines, and 265,000 navy troops (210 warships). These figures do not include the United Nations. During the entire Korean War: 183,108 Chinese sacrificed and 383,218 were injured. US troops: 54,246 died and 103,248 were injured. The UN forces suffered 628,833 deaths and 1,064,453 injuries.
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@powershift2025 We Chinese believe that the only criterion for judging whether a government is qualified is whether it always puts the interests of the people first. In China, all children study in school, and there is no child who is out of school. In China, women are respected and women are "half the sky". In China, everyone is equal, and everyone has the opportunity to be promoted through their own efforts. In contrast, India is politically chaotic and turbulent, with many social contradictions, extremely poor public security, prevalent terrorism, and a very low status for women. There are groups of out-of-school children begging on the streets. India's hunger index ranks at the bottom of the world. Because of the oppression of the caste system, India has lost countless talents. India's freedom and democracy are just a facade. It is a tool for high Indians to rule low Indians. China completely surpasses India in all aspects, whether it is politics, economy, education, science and technology, environmental sanitation, military, sports, people's quality, and everything else.
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