Comments by "Mesolithic Man" (@mesolithicman164) on "The New Culture Forum" channel.

  1. Right at the centre of it all is education. That is where the indoctrination starts.
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  2. Ok. I get it. Erase a country's history. Upset the cultural balance. Step by step remove all the things that create a person's national identity. Create a supra national world government.
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  3. Thanks for saying that Peter. I'm sick of hearing politicians saying "We won't let this change the way we live" after an attack while immediately demonstrating that is exactly what has happened. Politicians need to grow backbones, fast.
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  4. Really enjoyed this. An intelligent conversation about conservative principles. Won't expect to see anything like this on the BBC.
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  5. Peter Whittle needs his own GB News show.
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  6. Part of the problem is that the right is passive and reasonable and the Left are highly active an destructive. The right needs to stop being so apologetic about history, culture etc. Time to speak up.
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  7. I agree with a lot of this but it does feel that mostly we're on the defensive with these arguments. Democracy was fought for, freedom was fought for, we seem to have moved into this space where we let our opponents set the terms of engagement, as if defending our civilisation, the one all the immigrants flock to, is somehow beneath us. Our ancestors would be ashamed by our unwillingness to stand and fight for our principles.
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  8. I'm glad Mike was able to say this. But we'll know we're making progress when you don't have to start any discussion about immigration with "I'm not a racist but..." The facts are the facts and the numbers are the numbers.
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  9. I think Tim makes somes very good points about the Conservative obsession with tax cuts. There are, frankly, bigger social issues that need considering. Something I can't stand is the phrase "I'm fiscally Conservative but socially Liberal" by which they usually mean I want to make lots of money, not be taxed, and snort cocaine at dinner parties. To me, none of that is responsible Conservatism. That's selfishness wrapped up in a convenient ideology.
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  10. Post modern society has lost its way. There's no belief in any of the old traditions or certainties. The uk thinks it's being progressive, it's not progressive to be the first person walking blindfold through a minefield. But then we don't have 'leaders' these days, just interchangeable careerists.
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  11. Far right extremism...a couple of old guys sitting in a pub talking about Mrs Thatcher. Islamism, countless murders, burnt churches and beheadings. "The religion of peace".
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  12.  @truecinnamon  Like so many YT commenters you are plain ignorant. From WW2 the BBC was a byword for honest reporting. All around the world the BBC's many foreign language stations were regarded as as near to 'the truth' as you could get. This reputation was built on the work of brave and honest BBC reporters and was very much seen as the counterpoint to Communist propaganda from the 50s to the 70s. Unfortunately recent generations of BBC reporters have squandered that reputation and now, quite frankly, it's a sad joke because it's potential to do good as an honest voice has been compromised.
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  13. They won't just insult you, they'll try to smear and destroy you.
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  14. I thought this programme asked a lot of good questions but part of the problem is these old men in leather armchairs trying to reason their way out of trouble. The Left want to bring everything down, all our history, and the greens want to take away our cars and foreign holidays. Old men sitting in leather chairs are no threat to the Left. People have to start getting ugly. Putting their collective feet down and saying, "This is ours and you aren't going to take it away from us". Virtually everything is paid for by the millions of working class in this country and we need to stand strong.
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  15. The upside to this is that a lot of people who like Clarkson but really didn't accept the reality of Cancel Culture can now see exactly what it means. There are people who have been cancelled for just saying what a woman is, IMO Clarkson went too far in his article but he can now see what's going on. He could become a useful anti- woke commentator on GB News or TalkTv.
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  16. I don't care what people say. You have to stand up for what's right. People need to stand their ground.
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  17. The conspiracy of silence says everything about the cowardice of the so called authorities.
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  18. Compare the media's reaction to the death of one middle class woman, Sarah Everard, with their reaction to the abuse of thousands of working class girls at the hands of Asian pond lifes in the north of England. All those Middle class home counties feminists have been very quiet about it too.
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  19. It feels like s decision has been made not to rock the boat for fear of stirring up unrest. Unfortunately these girls are the price the Establishment are willing to pay. It's shameful.
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  20. I had to look up who that Jones woman is. Painfully unfunny, riding on a wave of sympathy for her disability. Emotionally immature.
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  21. I was speaking informally to a teacher recently who said exactly this. They will never be happy, the demands will keep coming. At some point you have to say we're not going to play that game anymore because the NHS, education etc could swallow up unlimited amounts of money forever, and it will never be enough.
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  22. When the pursuit of power is the only reason for a party's existence, you know that it is intellectually dead. Kemi is the best hope for the future. Anyone with any sense realises this, which is why the majority of Conservative MPs have no idea.
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  23. And we let them, that's the tragedy.
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  24. They're probably holding that back, let the fuss die down then mention it in passing. Don't want to inflame tensions, do we? Conceal the truth, as always.
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  25. Martine Barnard-Delaroche I hope you can see the irony of these elderly scholars immersed in history while a very dangerous 'war' is going on around them. They appeal to reason, to the rules of the game when the enemy have no interest or regard to rationality or any set of rules. This is all about the fight for power and these guys are doing next to nothing to win that battle. Well, maybe a couple of them grasp the significance. But this is real. Damage is being done and it will no doubt be the foot soldiers of the working class that will sort things out again. They are not embarrassed about being patriotic, they are not too embarrassed to say they want this country to protect it's hard won freedoms. Doesn't it intrigue you how all the high institutions have so easily fallen to this Woke ideology. All the educated classes that inhabit these offices have surrendered without a metaphorical shot being fired. It's just pathetic.
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  26. Cary B Socialism is ruthless. When the enemy is gone they turn in on themselves. It's a deeply nihilistic 'religion.'
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  27.  @jasoncornell1579  What's so interesting is the assumption that by means of their innate intelligence and superior education this class of journalist will have god like wisdom that will lift them above common partisanship. As it turns out, they have no such wisdom and are just as biased as the despised 'ordinary people'.
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  28. 100% correct.
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  29. Funny, because from my standpoint I see exactly those people as the enemy within. The working class are the sound beating heart of this country. When they talk about "boots on the ground", 90% of the time it's a working class guy wearing them. It seems that it's always the same people getting us into trouble and always the working class heroes getting us out of the mess that has been created. We need to use our collective strength, and true patriots can cut across Party lines, to fashion a system that works for us not them. This may enrage some, but here goes, my descendants did not fight in two world wars to allow a grovelling excuse for a King to travel round the Commonwealth apologising for this small country, who made a huge difference to the world as we know it. All the Commie lawyers, journalists and pundits need to be sidelined in favour of a new 'intelligentsia' (to steal a term) that talks our achievements up, not down. We need to re-connect to our history and make Britain great again. Our glorious past tells us we are the people to do it.
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  30. People will fight for something they feel part of. Britain has been sold out to half the Middle East and International finance. Why would any much vilified white British male give his life for people who hate him? The woke crowd get all the attention, not a single one would fight for this nation.
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  31. Peter is correct about many things, but if you're going to defend the two party system, as he does, you can't complain if that dynamic creates a Trump or a Farage. These candidates are the outcome of the system, and perhaps in an ideal world there would be a traditional Conservative to vote for, but we only have Nigel to fight for some kind of change. So rather than sneer at him I think Peter needs to be a bit more positive about someone who, at least, represents a clear step away from Starmer and the potential horrors hidden away in his Pandora's box of political and social policies.
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  32. The people that get drawn into this Woke crap are not people who do real work, van drivers, builders etc. They are the teachers, admin staff, social workers, the people that think they're 'educated' but are in fact mentally weak and easily influenced. Sad to say, many politicians fall into this category. The fight back will come from the strong of mind, the people regarded as 'ordinary', the people who have a real sense of identity. Those were also the people that kept everything going during Covid. The backbone of society.
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  33. I'm guessing but I'd suggest one of Calvin's parents is white. If you were born in Africa and your father was black, I could see how you might feel Africa was your homeland.
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  34. This only gets solved by the government growing a pair and confronting the race issue in the uk today. And I don't see anyone ready to do that unfortunately.
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  35. You won't find it on the BBC that's for damn sure.
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  36. But the people that enforce these ideas have no objective science to back them up. It's all word play.
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  37.  @hannahtattoo  100%. Those young white working class guys should go and fight to defend a bunch of pacifist trustafarians that hate them? I hope not.
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  38. 99RedPills GoBy I think they pointed out that the Conservative party fell prey to wokeness nearly 20 years ago. That's why major surgery is needed. This has all moved on beyond left and right, much of the 'Red Wall' have been lifelong Labour voters.
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  39. The Chinese have absolutely seen through this Woke madness. They don't need to attack the west because the west is busy destroying itself with its diversity and equity agenda.
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  40. People need to stay in their own countries and sort out their mess. Not move to another country and bring it with them.
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  41. As bad as this government is, how much worse would it have been if Corbyn, Benn, Butler and Abbot had got in? So it's the better of 2 bad options. I have a feeling that Nigel F is planning a comeback. The way he's been pushing certain issues on his YT channel looks like he's building something from the roots.
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  42.  @OnlyElshafto  Which has only increased since the SNP decided it needed a constant anti English narrative to shore up it's support. All this while sponging up tons of English money and presiding over ever declining standards in health, education etc.
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  43. I've been criticising Reform's Richard Tice. All he does is talk. I thought he was a dynamic entrepreneur. We will need a very active organisation to fight back from where we are. Westminster has sold us out. In the US they're building a new Conservative infrastructure. We need to do the same.
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  44.  @shrunkensimon  Apparently behind all the high tech prestige projects there are power failures, flooding, sanitation problems. A myriad of issues China choses not to show the world. Like most authoritarian regimes.
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  45. In politics timing is everything. I think the time is right for a party of national renewal. That would mean cleaning out the civil service, education, all the big institutions that have succumbed. We could even deport Lineker to Pakistan TV.
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  46. If a man can just identify as a woman there is no need for the word 'trans'. He just is. Of course it's rubbish, there's no internal logic at all. If a man can just 'be' a woman why would you need to have all kinds of surgery? Evidently they don't really believe that so they have to create a 'performance' of a woman. So, fake. Just dressing up.
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  47. In the USA a 'white supremacist' is anyone that believes in hard work and getting to appointments on time. Both, sinister manifestations of 'Whiteness'. You couldn't make it up.
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  48. I have a horrible feeling that paedophiles will be next on the list for glorification by the Progressives. The process seems unstoppable. All sorts of mitigating factors will be brought in and it will be spun that our prejudice is the worst crime for these 'oppressed' people.
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  49. I enjoyed de programme. Unlike Julia Hartley Brewer, these chaps actually understand the Donald Trump phenomenon. The Donald Trump question, among right wing journalists, is like the 'Can you define what a woman is?' among the political class. You either see the bigger picture behind him or you don't, but instead, obsess about about certain lewd remarks, while at the same time semi excusing Bill Clinton's philandering because of his charm and statesmanship. All of which are somewhat of a myth.
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  50. I think the patriotic working class have not been undermined, because they mostly avoid the higher education and public school system. It is the so called 'educated' classes that have been indoctrinated, they are the real problem. Teacher's Unions, the worst, followed by the media and a generation of politicians that are interchangeable ideologically. Those are the individuals that need exising and it's just possible that what awaits us in the near future will assist the process. But it will not be easy and it's not guaranteed.
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  51. They're called 'plod' for a reason. As this clip demonstrates.
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  52. Probably hope that the Chinese threat shakes us out of this idiotic self absorption.
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  53. Even if it is redolent of Thatcherism, that was a time when the economy was buoyant. That in itself would be a step forward from where we are now.
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  54. Peter is caught in a weird trap where he hates the party that he supports. The Conservatives have never backed the people that have fought wars to protect the country. And the Christian Church used to be equally authoritarian over the people that supported it. So, if some Right Wing alternative to the Conservatives steps up, I'll give it a chance, I don't see how it could ever let us down worse than the Tories have over generations
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  55.  @stephenw2992  There's something about the modern generation, they seem to be incapable of restraining themselves from speaking 'they're truth'. So journalistic neutrality is a thing of the past.
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  56.  @FirstLast-rb5zj  Imagine you're a soldier that lost a leg fighting in Afghanistan. The US decide to pull out, overnight, no warning to allies, and leaves billions in kit there for your enemies. Is that soldier going to feel it was all worth it? You'd be doing the same thing all over again but this time in Ukraine.
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  57. From a historical perspective, how does a Nigerian become UK PM? This is one of those strange phases like in the medieval era when French was the language of the English Royal courts. All things pass. Common sense ultimately prevails. Unfortunately, we have to endure this crazy period.
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  58. And what's happening in the USA is showing that Senator McCarthy was on to something. Media brainwashing has portrayed these men as monsters over the years, it seems like their time is coming.
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  59. Rahbour El As Just means there's space for a party offering that option.
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  60. Sopel is just another self regarding BBC globalist hack.
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  61.  @Dabhach1  I think a lot of us did when they kicked out Soames, Grieve, Alexander, Soubrie etc. Consensus politics are OK when everything is going well, it offers a form of continuity. When things are are bad, this bad, you need a politician of substance to come and sort things out. Mrs Thatcher was one, the only possibility I see is Lord Frost. The rest of the 'big names' are devoid of backbone, and talent.
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  62. The Church of England stands for nothing these days.
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  63. Hence we have this thing, "This is my truth", "This is my lived experience", no, what are the actual facts? Not your emotional interpretation of them.
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  64. I don't think either group add anything of significance to the UK. They both treat this country as a holiday home. Their first loyalty is to another land, not ours, we don't need the strife they or other groups bring, let's keep this small island with a great history to ourselves. The Japanese have the right idea.
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  65. When people are perpetually racially conscious you will have a stilted, artificial 'correct' environment that conceals underlying tensions. Who wants to live in a society like that. Lenny Henry has had a lifetime of love from the British public, he's a rich man, but now he's racialised himself, made his colour a feature in a way the public never cared about. That is a backward step and he's blind to it because he's got caught up in this identatarian trend to try to be a 'worthy' black man. It's undoing so much social progress.
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  66.  @albert21able  I think the working class are a bit more militant these days. When those Insulate Britain clowns ( middle class, of course) were stopping traffic, it was the 20/30 y.o working class guys that were dragging them off the road. Which in itself is an appropriate metaphor for British society. But all governments fear the anger of working people, lest heads roll. The government might find people are a little less likely to fight to protect a local hotel full of immigrants.
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  67. Government is an illusion. It looks strong only because people are willing to accept their authority, when a government takes the dominant population down a road it doesn't want to go down, the mood starts to change. The rise of the Brexit party is a sign that it's already happening, and there's an even more radical layer beneath that. As things are going, we will reach a critical mass and a reaction WILL occur. How strong that reaction will be is anyone's guess at the moment. But it will not look like two dudes sitting in a TV studio.
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  68. Peter could have an hour long show on GBNews. I'd prefer him to Isabel Oakshott.
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  69. Very true. Trump is moving in the right direction on education. When he proves the election was fixed, he can get back to business. Over here we need to make kids more self reliant, less state reliant.
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  70. Well, it would certainly be a wake up call for complacent British Liberals who already, no joke, consider Rishi Sunak 'Far Right'. For the rest of us just the slight satisfaction of saying "I told you so".
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  71. Good point. The Conservatives, like the US Republican Party, have lazily assumed that the economy was the only thing that mattered. And I think this is why it has failed. There is a place for a new right wing/patriotic party to attract the votes of frustrated Brits. It would attract people from left and right because it gets to the core of a natural patriotic instinct.
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  72.  @valeriegrimshaw1365  For people from Rahman's part of the world, bribery is part of everyday life. We value honesty, they see life in a different way and he reflects that. We're already seeing that lying is endemic in the political class. It used to be a resigning offence, now it's just 'spin' or any other euphemism you want to use. Standards for everything in public life are sliding lower by the day.
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  73. He's gone and precious few people really care. The ones that do are the anti Monarchy brigade, which is exactly why we need to keep these self important disruptors at arms length.
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  74. Lovely Emma, surrounded by Cads and Bounders. Never trust a man with a feature waistcoat.
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  75. What about the female war on men? Divorce courts, entry into all men's spaces and sports, and male jobs? This all goes one way.
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  76.  @shrunkensimon  Eventually the pot will boil over in one way or another. Dictators lose touch, then become isolated, then paranoid and vulnerable. Plus Xie, despite the black hair, is not in his early 30s. He's getting on.
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  77. In an ideal world this conversation would be on GB News but Ofcom would never allow it.
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  78. They were banal in their handling of Covid and equally banal in their reactions to a very serious situation. The public is spoken to as if they/we are all children to be talked down to. Infuriating. The 'msm' really are no help at all.
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  79. I think the point he's making is that this utterly incompetent government are incapable of sleight of hand. They lack the Macchiavelian skills to seamlessly slide the Reset past the public without some not all the people noticing. Boris outlined a fantasy portrait of a bright green future but didn't say "we're going to take your money away and put you on a Chinese style social credit system". If and when that happens the bulk of working people will say 'no' and Farage gets in at the next election. And I'm guessing Farage's policy platform will echo that of Donald Trump. The real Great Reset will be removing the divine right of clueless public schoolboys to run the country. They've proven they're not up to the task.
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  80. There is no shortage of countries that want a handout. Mostly of a certain ethnicity. It should be a firm fat 'No'.
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  81. Thanks to the vanity of Matt Hancock we now get to see the low calibre of politicians and civil servants that are meant to serve us. But only seek to serve themselves.
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  82. The BBC have no common sense. They just attach themselves to niche popular causes then try to convince other people they're real.
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  83.  @Stranglerxx77  As has uncontrolled immigration.
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  84. Probably, but it's not as if we're rejecting the glorious sunlit uplands for Labour. We're in a hole and Labour will take us deeper, but that may be what we need to realise how bad our national decline has become under this sham 2 party system. Only then can the kind of vital root and branch re-think about how we move forward take place. Just a few years ago it was almost a hanging offence to criticise the NHS, now we all know it's a basket case, so reality is gradually imposing itself on people's lives. That's my hope. Labour may be the purgative this country needs.
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  85. Jerry Can Brexit flushed out the 'remain establishment' and we saw how they were in all parties and the civil service. A lot of them were flushed down the toilet in the last election but I'm sure there are more to get rid of. That will be part of the new Long March. My point is that a second battle would have arisen as Corbyn's Labour pulled this country to the extreme Left. Undermining our nuclear defences, education and the existence of the traditional family. Thank God he was never elected. But clearly there is a battle ahead to uproot the Eurocentric/Marxist/Globalist elite from ALL the institutions and restore Britain as it should be.
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  86. Still sounds insane though. Educated people are the easiest to fool.
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  87. Yes. There are way too many idiots over here gagging at the prospect of bringing over every progressive idea the US sicks up. The whole narrative around BLM is a glaring example.
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  88. Mark Antony McDonald I believe you're right. The Conservatives were able to mop up all the votes to the right of centre because there was no one to apply pressure. And that's why they've drifted further to the left, to try to pick up some of those votes too. We need to cut them off at the legs by having a proper right wing/ populist party. These days someone is dangerously 'right wing' in the media's eyes if you think there are only 2 sexes. We need to change that. Major overhauls required.
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  89. I'm a bit more optimistic. If you look at the thrust of history you'll see there is always a reaction. I'm sure many past generations thought 'this is us done' but somehow something comes through and we reset. As a Brexiteer I do actually see a chance for a new post Liberal European alliance. Sensible inter-national European cooperation to build a buffer zone between the US and China. We are culturally aligned, essentially we're very similar.
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  90. I think it's important to have a view of what the ultimate goal is. To replace a Liberal tyranny with a Right wing tyranny just changes the colour of your oppressor's uniform. Personally, I think there aspects of Liberalism that are OK, if not pushed to extremes, and aspects to a well ordered, competently run state that make everyday life bearable. Finding the sweet spot is the key. Hungary may be the best example we have so far.
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  91. Who uses that term? The Left.
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  92. I think it's time to remove the Estsblishment. The conveyor belt of public schoolboys into high office is an anachronism, given that most of them don't have any feeling for the history or greatness of this country. For them it's about career and prestige but none of them have the mettle to make big decisions. They're hopelessly out of touch and past their sell by date.
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  93. I'm sure Rafe is happy that he wasn't called Raffy all the way through the interview this time.
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  94. I can't get enough of Drag Queens. I want drag Queens reading the news, I want drag Queens delivering my Amazon crap, if I get a taxi I want it driven by a drag queen, I want all the police in full drag and all my favourite NCF presenters to make the effort. More drag please, Peter.
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  95. One of the worst things is the way politics has become a career path. It used to be that people went into politics after they were financially secure. These days there appears to be a factory just churning out these identikit career politicians studying PPE, becoming an assistant, then offered a seat once they've shown they can say all the right things, then a junior minister post etc. They thought nursing would improve if they turned it into a profession, with a viable career structure. We ended up with careerist nurses rather than nurses with a desire to help and comfort the ill. Governments seem to thrive on bad decision making. Today's 'professional' politicians are the worst ever.
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  96. Annalise Hamilton Yes. But people will have an election in 4 years. The problem with real dictatorships is that you don't have elections.
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  97.  @sunnyjim1355  That is exactly what someone might have said in 1940. But it's never over. The truth is that as the situation gets worse more and more people are becoming aware of the mess we're in. And in particular, the 'nice' middle class, whose children can't get on the housing ladder, or get an NHS doctor's appointment start to change their minds about open door immigration. Hardship has this effect on people, it shakes them out of their complacency. I believe that's where we are. We're broke because of Co-vid and we have strikes because of the inflation it caused and we can't afford to fix our major problems because they are all created by overpopulation caused by mass immigration. This is affecting everyone now, not just the working class, and ultimately something drastic will need to happen. There is no other possibility. You can only ignore a problem for a certain amount of time.
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  98. hannannah1uk And now you've moved into the light. And by that I don't necessarily mean 'to the right'. Both right and left are collecting under a common sense banner. People that don't want wokeness and state intrusion into every aspect of their lives or have to bend the knee to extremist opinions.
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  99. Agreed. But you have to overthrow the teaching unions first, they are Marxist hardliners.
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  100. Man or woman is a bit reductive. 'Lady' has a little more warmth to it.
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  101. Yes, Ralph always hits the nail of contemporary culture on it's head with his 32oz ball pein hammer of righteousness.
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  102. One thing is clear, the Left have inflicted huge damage on this country.
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  103. These things are coordinated. Seen how many mixed relationships are shown in TV ads?, seen how many ads there are for vegan food no one wants? etc, etc. Look at the list of huge corporations supporting the WEF, that's where the coordination is coming from.
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  104. By the time a society reaches the post modern stage it needs to find a way to refresh itself because it's feeding on it's past achievements.
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  105. drwhatson 100%. And the irony is they absolutely do not fit together as ideologies. It's like people thinking after the Nazi/Soviet pact that both systems could peacefully co exist. Eventually the penny will drop that groups such as the 'trans community' have absolutely no chance of acceptance within Islam. Believe it or not the 'hegemonic white patriarchy' is much more accepting of alternate lifestyles than Islam.
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  106. Nigel is making very prime ministerial videos, I think he sees this as the time to strike.
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  107. I think they're parroting this stuff because they think it the right thing to say, flavour of the month etc. "HSBC supports the LGBTQ cause", I mean seriously wtf is that all about. It's just virtue signalling because they don't want to get cancelled by the Twitter mob. That's been the BIG problem, effing Twitter, and the way it's been weaponised.
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  108.  @routeman680  I was thinking more as a guest than a presenter. Even though he is on the crass side, he's very popular and the more his followers start pushing back against wokeism the sooner we can get back to what we used to call normal.
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  109. In folklore a weak individual shows he had one saving grace. So far I've seen no evidence that Boris has that.
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  110. We live in unserious times, there is a shortage of substantial figures in politics. By that, I mean politicians who actually believe in anything but their own careers.
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  111. There is a rump of Conservative mp's that are BBC supporters. Till those people have been cleared out there will be little progress.
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  112.  @johnfisher747  The parallels with British Conservatives and US Republicans are very evident. A lack of belief in core principles and an unwillingness to attack progressive ideology.
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  113. How great would it be to see William, Ben, Richard Tice and Nigel pulling the levers of power. No way would they be worse than what we have at the moment.
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  114. This conversation wouldn't have happened a year ago. As tge situation gets worse even blindly loyal JRM is getting rid pilled. I'd prefer Peter Whittle as head of Reform. Tice is a waste of space.
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  115. Probably not. Harry has nothing to sell other than his relationship to royalty. He's not clever and he has no sellable skills. In real life he's an Uber or delivery driver.
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  116. georgie The Left always had this "Workers of the world Unite" dream. They eventually realised that despite being poor and exploited the workers were mostly patriotic and monarchy supporting. So they changed tack, now it's "Wokers of the world unite". Unite all the selfish, self obsessed types and use them to overthrow society. Just gullible self pitying fools the lot of them. " M' mental health issues."
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  117. And a lot of slaves chose to stay on at the estates after slavery was abolished. Is modern day Chicago with numerous black on black deaths any worse than the life on a plantation. Yes, there were horror stories but I suspect there has been a lot of disinformation over the years.
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  118.  @774Rob  I can see it on my feed but your original comment said it better than mine. The selective outrage is almost amusing. Men are just meant to accept being treated as 3rd class citizens, despite holding the infrastructure of society together. I don't know why we put up with it.
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  119. In the summer previous to lockdown I had a hospital appointment, 2 days later I had the worst 'flu' I ever had. I was wiped out for a week. As a result I question the mainstream timeline for this virus. I believe it was here months earlier than officially acknowledged.
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  120. Our friends here kept saying it, "after 13 years of Conservative government". 13 years of incompetence. And there is no suggestion that the Conservatives have any capability or desire to change. Which means that they no longer have any use to us, as they are occupying the same basic ground as Labour and the Liberals. Every major institution is in decline. That has to be laid at the door of the Tories, they've had long enough to improve something, but they haven't. We need to rebuild. And I'm not sure that posh, private school educated individuals should be central to that. Look where they've got us.
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  121.  @raminybhatti5740  You read my mind. When it was all the other way there was no problem. But now....
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  122.  @MariaTorres-hc5uq  Maria, you exactly hit the nail on the head there. In WW2 the BBC built up a reputation for 'honest' war reporting. I say that in the sense that there were guidelines they had to follow from the government but they were as near honest as you will get in desperate times. And the world tuned in. Now the BBC is so obsessed with being an active player in shaping events, it's not a channel you can go to for a properly balanced discussion on climate change, for example. Or the EU/Brexit. This generation of reporters has lost its impartiality and in the process lost a large amount of public trust. But the obsession with creating TV shows of all kinds that push certain trendy issues has replaced the desire to make 'entertainment', it's almost as if they look down on the idea of entertaining people, they want to educate, and by 'education' I mean pushing progressive agendas. I could say "Well, it's their funeral why should I care?" There are 2 answers to that. The first is that as a taxpayer they're doing all this with the public's money, the second is that they're destroying something that we all used to care about and believe in, that's the saddest part. Best wishes. MM.
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  123. Howard Petterson I think you're right to say it's time for him to put up or shut up. If he is ever going to get a break through it has to be now. Laurence Fox is too laid back to do anything important but Farage and Tice must get some solid cut through now. This government seems intent on a scorched earth policy. If we want 'normal' back, there is no alternative. I don't want and never voted for 'the green agenda' or the UN Migration Compact. It all has to stop.
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  124. Apply counter pressure to any Twitter mob activism. Let advertisers know that if they bow to the Left, we in the centre and right will double down. They have loud voices but we have the numbers.
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  125. So the question arises, at what point do you jettison everything we stand for to advance the economy? The so called Conservatives seem to be willing to give it all away for a few extra £s on the balance sheet. IMO, some things are more important than profits.
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  126. I find Dave Rubin to be significantly more impressive than Jordan Peterson. While the latter has closed in on himself, Mr Rubin has built a small empire.
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  127. Your mindlink was successful.
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  128. Jess Phillips, happy to protect men who call white women 'Slappers' (and worse ) while building her own brand around representing 'Women and Girls'. Sheer grifting. When it came time to actually Do Something she showed what she's really all about. The Minister for Safeguarding her own Career.
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  129. Matthew Smith The British way has always been 'live and let live' i.e. none of my business. This current obsession seems to be all about forcing a confrontation. 'You're either with us or against us', they say, actually I'm not too fussed as long as you don't scare the horses.
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  130. anonUK That's because ukip was geared more to Brexit than being a party of national renewal. In terms of dealing with 'wokeism' and the challenge to our nation and our history, a new party can draw on both left and right. We have common cause. So I see it more in those terms than anything suggestive of skinheads etc.
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  131. Best avoid the mass lunacy that comprises 'the Big Questions' on Sunday morning.
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  132. James Royce This whole Covid business has shown the reality of British politics. Virtually no fundamental policy differences between any of them. Just a slight variation in emphasis. And no indication of competency. Now is the time, if ever there was one, for a new party to break though. The 'Red Wall' showed the class divide is no longer the defining issue in British politics. Essentially it's Globalism vs Patriotism and the Conservatives have shown they're not patriotic, even old school types like Heseltine and Major as revealed in his traitorous '2nd Tier' speech. This next couple of years Nigel and Tice have to build the popular support that is undoubtedly out there. Even Brexit sceptics will follow him as an alternative to this incompetent bunch of Etonians currently running the circus.
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  133. James Royce I don't think it needs to. Boris's 80 seat majority is primarily the 'get Brexit done' crowd. Nigel doesn't need and would probably never get the teachers, nurses and civil servants on his side. Brexiteers and those disillusioned with mainstream politicians ( a bigger cohort than the media realise), those 2 groups would give him a majority, I believe. Ironically, Boris is proving to the country what a disaster Corbyn's spending plans would have been. He could have just told us, he didn't need to actually demonstrate the point.
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  134.  @chriscoffee9070  This may be small comfort but GBNews is starting to build strong viewing figures. It seems to be overtaking Sky and seeing off the threat of Talk TV. Without doubt it has a patriotic and Conservative tone and Farage, for me, is has done a way better job than anyone expected, he's influencing the debate and becoming an important voice in Conservative broadcasting. Like I say, small comfort, but potentially a starting point. Mark Steyn has also been excoriating on some issues.
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  135. I prefer Starkey, he has a bit of fire about him. Heffer looks indolent. Isn't a heffer some sort of farm animal?
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  136. Mo Fa I would add 'bullying' to that. We must resist all pressure.
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  137. Lawyers and the compensation brigade have ruined society. Schools won't even put antiseptic cream on a grazed knee in case they get sued. K.ill 'em all!!
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  138. Does Emma usually tidy up all the cups and glasses? Someone should be doing some washing up.
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  139. She has to walk a tightrope in terms of what she can say or imply. Unfortunately there are some idiots, above, who are too thick to understand that, or are just trolling.
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  140.  @evolassunglasses4673  But society has to progress. Otherwise we'd have none of the modern day stuff we take for granted and the Globalists are trying to take away ie air travel, cars, etc. We've been living in a manner of freedom with comforts never before seen in history, to vilify capitalism is foolish.
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  141. It's this Liberal tendency that prevents us from accepting that other cultures have values and customs that aren't our own. The Leftist progressives can't accept a society where gayness isn't glorified as proof of their superior virtue. And yet they'll protect anti gay Muslims because in our society they percrive them as poor little people that need their protection. It's all delusional.
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  142. There was always a myth of Conservative competence. Even if you didn't like them they'd sort out Labour's excesses. Well, that's gone and with it the idea that the public school types were uniquely qualified for running a country, both in government and the civil service. So I think the time is right for a change. Clearly, the heir apparent is Nigel Farage but I think Richard Tice may be more capable. We shall see.
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  143. Elizabeth I quite like the leader but I think we're going to need stronger medicine to get out of this mess.
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  144. Who'd have thought that the naturally feisty Scots would be so willing to supplicate themselves before the pint sized dictator?
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  145.  @johnm7267  Don't expect me to defend the Tories, they're worse than Labour. Starmer is a Left Wing ideologue. He didn't come in to politics to restore the British Empire or fire up small business, he's all about 'radical change' he's used those words to describe Labour's mission. So I'm not being dogmatic, I'm reading both his actual words and between the lines.
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  146. The big Achilles heel in these arguments is that the redefinitions don't come from science but from the humanities. You wouldn't let a gender studies 'doctor' remove your tonsils. So it's purely political with no science base.
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  147.  @PDR-wb9dq  Exactly. And able to leverage her victimhood in a way that you can't really answer back without appearing unsympathetic.
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  148. King Brilliant True. I used to watch all the BBC political shows and took them all at face value. Then with Brexit I started to notice imbalances on panels, very partisan audiences that didn't reflect voting patterns and the more I looked the more I saw that the whole political discourse is being stage managed by forces in the background. And without doubt those are the same people that have tried to stop Brexit. The Tories are now far less split on Europe and the faction that stabbed Thatcher in the back are gone or on the way out.
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  149. Tomas Stride We need to start getting awkward. Working class people keep this country moving and pay most of the tax. Weak old professors at universities don't have the heart to do battle but we have to fight for this country. I'm damned if I'm going to let a bunch of sweaty ignorant Leftists destroy my country.
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  150. It's interesting how many gay men are involved in the push back against woke-ism Andrew Doyle, Doug Murray, Sargon of Akkad, Konstantin Kisin, Mike Graham. All doing sterling work.
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  151. One of the best interviews on the show. It seems there's a Faustisn pact with Business seeking dirt cheap labour, suicidal middle class virtue signallers and the No Borders global Communist class. All contriving to strip away the identity of this country. It feels like we're moving into a fight for survival mode, at least those of use aware of what's going on. I find it profoundly depressing that a nation with our great history should be so willing to hand it all over to uneducated (for the most part) 3rd world refugees. Maybe we need a 'lifeboat' movement. That those who believe in our potential should pack up and settle in some forsaken part of the world and begin anew. Or all move to Hungary.
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  152.  @martynspooner5822  Well, I just scrolled through the main comments and saw no other suggestion that he was drunk. Only you and "Richard S" have made that assertion. It's snidey, unfounded criticism. Really quite shameful on your part.
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  153. There should be no reason why right of centre parties can't work together for the common good. And that's what we need, a big effort to renew this country and to clear out all the old baggage that's holding us back. Education, civil service, media, all out of touch. We need to get rid before they start doing here what the US media have been doing to Trump.
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  154. I'm always wary when I hear Labour activists talking about 'fairness' in society. How is that possible? Is a beautiful woman meant to avoid making herself look attractive in order that a plain Jane isn't upset? But suppose plain Jane is extremely clever? Does she have to play dumb so as not to upset the low IQ members of society? That's the problem. Nowhere in nature is anything 'fair' and the pursuit of fairness is a pointless and unachievable task. People have to be left to their own efforts, with a safety net for those incapable of doing so but stop trying to micro manage society.
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  155. Stephen Harrison True. And all wearing nice black jackets.
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  156. Dr Starkey. Pomposity personified. Quite rude and overbearing. Peter Whittle was spoken to like a school child. I don't mind seeing less of this type of conservative however 'brilliant' he thinks he is.
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  157. R Tim No. What we have is Peter Whittle being unfailingly polite as a rather self important individual talks at him. Starkey talks over Mr Whittle every time he tries to make a point. That's just boorishness.
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  158. In a comments section people make comments. Or are comments only allowed if they reflect your opinions?
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  159. M Rede Look at all the woke movies coming out of Hollywood. Hollywood is all about money so someone has convinced them that woke movies would make money. But no matter how much the media presses, no one's turning up for the films. So Hollywood goes bust or changes, that's market forces. Either way the outcome is right. With HSBC, just virtue signalling, they can't really quantify if the LGBTQ slogan is making any great difference to their profit margins, so it's a no loss move. Whereas with the BBC the public sees woke overkill and withdraws their direct debits. The market isn't perfect but common sense eventually wins the day.
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  160. Ah, the sight of Somali goatherders on the green hills of Ireland is a sight to make any Irishman's heart proud, so it is.
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  161. alan whitham One thing for sure is all these 'people's parties' are authoritarian and hate ordinary white working class people. They're mostly middle class snobs who think the working class are vile sheep to be led by the nose.
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  162. Paul, you fail to understand that faith is no more antiquated than hope or love. The Communists tried to ban religion in Russia, it didn't work because belief in higher things will always overpower the tentacles of the state. You may or may not believe in a transitory idea like 'wokeness' but it will eventually die like all modish schools of thought. Religion has lasted thousands of years. You and people of your short term state of mind will never change that.
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  163. Paul K Here's the kicker, I am not a believer, I am not religious. That's why I can see this from a distance. My life experience informs me that all the Christians I have met are invariably good, well meaning people. And a very large percentage of what we might call the Atheistic Left seem to be utterly vindictive, nasty, uncomfortable in their own skins, bigots who want everybody that doesn't align with their own way of thinking, cancelled. And you too seem to be veering towards that camp.
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  164. There are forces at work deliberately trying to edge patriotic white working classes out of the country their ancestors fought and died for. They want an imported docile low skilled population who won't try to prevent a globalist government. These ladies did a great job here.
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  165. He can only scrape the bottom of the barrel for so long. When you've sold the last bit of family jewellery you have to rely on your own talents. And Harry has very few, to none.
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  166.  @jimdavis8391  It feels like there will need to be some kind of social re-ordering . There is no culture being created in the west these days, everything is a post modern rehash of what went before. That is not a good sign for society. Society is also fractured in many directions but one clear schism is between patriotic conservativism and multiracial progressivism, and at this stage I don't see the basis for a reconciliation. Maybe there'll be a war and all this division will be forgotten. Or maybe, in the future, the US separates into Red and Blue territories and British Conservatives migrate to the Red states. Or vice versa. So difficult to predict. But history keeps happening, so the rise of some new kind of arrangement could easily happen. Leftism by its very nature is destined to fail. If it fails in a capitalist system the Conservatives are on hand to clear up the mess. If it fails like it has in LA there are no Conservatives left to pick up the pieces, so we see Liberals migrating to Red states. That becomes a danger if they repeat their Liberal mistakes there and start to mess up the Red state. Which kind of means that the Red states are going to have to be selective in who they allow in or have a system that is tamper proof. People will say "That's undemocratic", the media in particular, but it may be necessary to safeguard the system. It's possible I'm overthinking this whole thing and it all sorts itself out. I genuinely hope so, but things are getting worse by the day.
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  167.  @chrisdavie8163  Those guys you mention, are in reality, TalkRadio, and are very good. The Kyles, Rinders, Osbornes and Morgans are, in my opinion, bandwagon jumpers. Morgan's histrionics during lockdown were pathetic. They have been recruited for some sort of 'star power' and have not delivered.
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  168.  @chrisdavie8163  As for David Starkey. I don't think he's interested in being an MP. He is more of an intellectual rallying point, someone who can put our belief in the virtues of England into an historical context. In that regard there is no historian in the UK with as much intellectual heft as Starkey.
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  169. Because she could demolish Keir Starmer.
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  170. Picture a boiling saucepan with the lid held down, but steam starting to escape. With our basic knowledge of science, do we think the pressure can be a.) counteracted with more effort on the lid, or b.) that the lid will eventually blow off the saucepan with terrifying results. Answers on a postcard, please.
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  171. When you're a wealthy celeb, one of the easiest ways to prove you are superior to 'ordinary people' is to have these curated opinions about migrants, ukraine, trans etc.
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  172. Can you imagine if this was the kind of debate you'd get on Newsnight? Back in the day, it didn't recruit solely from the Guardian or the Morning Star.
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  173. Strider9655 Divide and rule. The Left thrives on disunity and discontent. The Right loves order.
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  174. Strider9655 I think you'll find age discrimination is more real than gender or racial discrimination. Those are both against the law. Age is not enforced.
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  175. Perhaps put your guest on a higher level seat, being further away he looks like a small suspect being interviewed by a couple of burly cops. Same thing happened when you had Carl Benjamin on.
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  176. The irony of all this is that we have the right argument and the numbers on our side. Somehow a minority of weasely Left loving traitors have subverted the institutions. We need to remove them and ignore the whining squealing media as we replace them with a new generation of patriotic proud Englishmen and women. The results will be immediately evident, just look at the vaccination debacle taking place in Europe. Well done Peter for creating this platform and for all the inspirational videos you're making.
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  177. I think that will help peel off a percentage of them. In the same way that the social shame of being called 'racist' is effective, being mocked will also work, but it's definitely a battle for the minds and hearts.
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  178. After many years of anyone giving a right of centre opinion being denounced as a racist or some kind of 'phobe' we do have some right wing voices speaking against the liberal consensus. And usually they're vilified by the Left controlled media. So these spokesmen have tended to be larger than life characters that can deal with the abuse that's routinely thrown their way to silence them. But gradually the the quiet, common sense Conservative views of the majority are starting to be heard. And a good thing too, because a stable society is built on a foundation of small 'c' conservatism rather than progressive ideas which disrupt and invert the natural order of things.
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  179. The middle class establishment always hated the working class, until there was a war to be fought, at which point the rhetoric changes and working class culture becomes 'authentic' and 'honest'. It's funny, the aristocracy and the working class have a mutual respect but middle class snobs hate both.
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  180. john danvers-birchgold That's gone, as has the idea that they support the small business man. They've thrown small businesses under the bus. All bridges have been burnt.
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  181. I'd like to see Peter try to interview someone and keep his hands in his pockets. When he's talking his hands are flying around the room like a kung fu instructor.
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  182.  @nonoyorbusness  Really? It was mild stuff, just saying how easily our institutions have fallen, but will be recaptured in the future. Hardly revolutionary talk. Thanks for the heads up.
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  183. I think the BBC's handling of Brexit opened a lot of people's eyes. We could see very clearly that the debate was being rigged. But worse of all, by the BBC. I'd always trusted the BBC to be an "impartial voice" but here they were on Question Time loading the panel 5 against 1 on an issue that equally-ish divided the country. At that stage any semblance of impartiality had been thrown away. Now it's a cess pit of 'Progressivist' propaganda, actively betraying the taxpayers who fund it. 'Auntie Beeb' has become something akin to the Wewelsburg of the progressive globalist cult. There is no issue that is not being subverted at that organisation these days. And worse, they don't care. Sooner or later a hard rain must fall on the BBC.
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  184. Mostly true, but even the Conservatives have their share of 'socially Liberal' types that broadly support a lot of this Woke nonsense.
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  185. It's questionable as to whether Harry's kids really are related to the Queen. The fact that the Royal family have never made an issue of this point is a tribute to their decorum.
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  186. Dimitri Anastacios My grandmother at the age of 12 went 'into service' for an upper middle class family, working from 6 in the morning till 8 in the evening. She had no choice, that's what poor working class children had to do back then. Before her they did jobs like unravelling old pieces of rope in workhouses to make new rope, it was torture on small fingers. So while I agree that slavery was bad, what kind of lives do you think working class children had back then? So when I say some slaves wanted to stay on at estates, they had food and shelter, a job and a degree of security. Not all estates were as displayed in 12 Years A Slave. We live in a time of semi educated activists using the media to spread a very loaded view of the past. So, while slavery was bad, life for all the poor was tough. That part seldom gets talked about in these hyper racialised discussions.
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  187. Why isn't James Hewitt contributing?
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  188. Well done to Carl for his transformation from self described Sh!t Poster, to a voice of authority on matters historical and contemporary. He's put in the hours of reading.
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  189. That's why you won't get a referendum. Turkeys. Xmas
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  190. He sounds absolutely fine to me.
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  191.  @martynspooner5822  You're the only one suggesting he's not up to par. He's fine, his interviews in Hungary were very interesting. Why are you doing this "I'm not really criticising him but others might think,," rubbish? The NCF is his brainchild and he's been very good as a guest on GBN. With friends like you the Right don't need enemies.
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  192. So it seems. But I don't think that Schwab planned for WW3 in his evil masterplan.
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  193.  @NorfolkSceptic  I'm speculating as I say this. Schwab had Globalist intentions. But if the world is now divided up into 2 separate power blocks, that makes his plan seemingly obsolete. My guess is, the intention was to give China a monopoly on world manufacturing while the west (us) twatted about arguing over pronouns and ordered everything off of Amazon. Recent events have shown us that it's not a good plan to rely on your enemy to supply you with all your essential stuff. So that's one big stumbling block to the Globalist agenda. The second, and quite similar, is the realisation that countries need security of power/fuel. Well, you don't have that if you're dependent on Russia or the Middle East for your gas supply. Which means Net Zero is not the slam dunk it looked like it might be 2 years ago. Eventually, even Zak Goldsmith will have to accept an economy needs fuel to keep it running and the UK will have to start generating our own power. People may believe in net zero but when the power goes off and they can't get onto Facebook attitudes change very quickly. I don't think this change of thinking is going to happen overnight, unfortunately, but there is a certain inevitability to some things.
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  194. Choleric Melancholic Exactly. The political landscape has changed. Instead of Left vs Right, it's now Globalist vs Patriot. And no political party is representing the ordinary patriotic Brit. We thought Conservatives were patriotic but we've discovered that most Conservatives believe in nothing but power, Major's '2nd Tier' speech revealed what he thinks about Britain. I'm sure the msm will do everything possible to prevent Farage's party getting a fair hearing, but word of mouth and the internet will work, you can't hold back an idea when the time is right. That's where we can all do our bit, I think, draw people's attention to what's going on, promote his party, donate. Without wishing to sound too much like a conspiracy theorist, this 'Build Back Better' mantra I keep hearing sounds very much like a One World government policy. I find that a bit sinister.
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  195. A Ahmed Biden has barely 'won' the election and the Republicans hold all the power in the Senate. Things aren't as bad as they may appear.
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  196. When you prioritise people with NO links to the country and marginalise the people who have done all the work and fighting, don't be surprised when they refuse to protect YOUR interests, not theirs. British boys go off to fight to safeguard Syrians, Afghans and Ethiopians? You must be joking.
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  197. R Tim Well I think you just touched on it there. Peter kept trying to draw the conversation on to an analysis of 'cancel culture' but Starkey persisted in talking about his feelings, his reaction, his analysis of what happened. Not only that but he is then extraordinarily rude about "Peterson" and his "cack handed" attempt to diagnose events. I just found him, personally, bordering on the insufferable. Very little graciousness and entirely centred round his ego. Perhaps Peter is the forgiving type or perhaps he realises Starkey is a significant presence on our side of the argument and so feels the need to defer to him and indulge his solipsism. To sum up, I agree with a lot of Starkey's positions but don't find excessive vanity an attractive fate in the great and the good. But each to their own in this regard.
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  198. 100% agree.
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  199.  @EvidentlyFire  Colour is less of an issue than culture. There is no means by which a secular and a strict theological culture can exist side by side.
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  200. The evidence proves Boris is a coward, he finds it impossible to sack anyone. He doesn't do face to face confrontation.
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  201. Just showing my white skin is me being provocative. This country is done. The idiots have won.
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  202. Full respect for Mr Thorpe's effort. But Britain isn't like a football club that can be supported by all races and religions. The things that made this country great is the outcome of the personality and attitude of ethno Brits. When you start integrating middle Eastern ethnicities and cultural attitudes you start to sabotage the thing you are trying to protect. This means society has to have a dominant ethnicity and culture that immigrants, limited in number, can and will have to buy into. Which is exactly the opposite of the kind of divided society Socialists pursue. A country, any country, cannot be all things to all men. That's why visiting France or Japan should be a different cultural experience. If all countries are just a mish mash of different communities, something very precious is gone. And it's funny how many advocates of ethnic soup have cottages in rural Tuscany or France, the exact places that have a specific beauty and cultural identity of their own.
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  203. Trump loved England more than white Middle class Liberals love England. Those people are empty headed. You can be the most personally immoral person in the world, but if you say a couple of things about BLM or global warming you're automatically "one of us". They are a shallow and narcissistic cult. Little wonder they attract individuals like Madonna or Meghan Markle.
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  204. It could have been worse, it could have been lopsided mouthed Jonathan King, intoning his one hit "Everybody's Going to the Moon" or, in his case, jail.
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  205. These people are driven by a fanaticism that ordinary people don't share. They'll use any ploy to leverage their demands. There is no compassion just an insatiable appetite for 'progress'. Even driving a car off the edge of a cliff is a kind of progress. But not one with a positive outcome.
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  206. The Left hates religion. Truthfully they hate anything that breaks the link between the state and the individual. That's why they work against the family, marriage etc.
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  207. Cummings made a complete hash of the fight against Covid. He wanted more lockdowns etc. He uses focus groups to tell him which socks to wear. He's 'data driven' but clearly had no feel for the warp and weft of the general public. I think he believed his own hype. Hubris.
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  208. No. Its not acceptable. And we need to realise the word 'racist' is used as a way of making us shut up. We have to ignore it and put a mark down. The Conservative Party, or any political party, does not own this country and allow us to live here. WE OWN THIS COUNTRY, it is ours, we say what happens, not them. THE TIME IS COMING for our battle to save the country. We must organise and defend what is ours, the things our ancestors fought for. IT HAS TO BE DONE.
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  209. Cumming failed. He had a lot of popular support but his arrogance and incompetence were his undoing. He blew it. He's gone before the BBC, he's gone before the civil service was cleaned out. That's a fail by any metric. Very disappointing, I think we all believed in his abilities.
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  210. Because people in power are so influenced by the US, when the Conservatives start reasserting control in the states there will be a knock on effect in the UK. The UK wokeists will be starved of oxygen from their American counterparts and will start to fall away. Even now you can see the exodus from the BBC, Maitlis, Sopel, Marr, all scurrying away to a place of refuge, LBC, but no one is interested. All the time they had control of a state funded organ they could carry on, once they're expected to deliver ratings they'll disappear. No one, except for a few metropolitan virtue signallers, is interested in their garbage.
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  211. After 32 minutes of discussion I'm still not sure whether the author thinks conservatism is on its way back. The question is will there be a post progressive society. One that rediscovers traditional value.
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  212. This is what happens when the legalise pot/free love/60s student activist generation became leaders. I don't think it's darkly sinister, just very misguided and typical of the baby boomer generation. And now after having the best of everything they want to shut it all down to protect the world. Selfish more than sinister.
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  213. Let's have all Conservatives speaking with an RP accent. That's a great way to divide the classes. Do you not see that if we want to embed conservative views among 'working class' voters, speaking with a cut-glass accent will be counter productive? We need to separate conservative thought from social hierarchy, otherwise you have a barrier to the acceptance of a conservative outlook.
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  214. Strider9655 I'd say it's a bad interview tactic to express salty opinions in regard to an engineering job. A little bit of self restraint till you've got the job would be a better idea. And even after that, if you want to influence people to your way of thinking the old phrase 'Softly softly catchee monkey' is a good way to go. A bit of nuance rather than a sledgehammer.
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  215.  @elkpaz560  Thank you Isabel.
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  216.  @paulchristiepureblood146  Don't move the goalposts, you said it wasn't a democracy.
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  217. Correct. It really wasn't, but Dad's Army is quintessentially British. All our foibles. If you don't get that you're name, also, vill go in ze book.
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  218. I never come away from a Peter Hitchens interview feeling optimistic. About anything.
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  219. If playing down Englishness was meant to hold the UK together it has failed. We need to start looking after ourselves first. Levelling down is a not a good idea, it's a kind of self harm.
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  220. English Teacher When tv sketches and panel shows are making jokes about woke-ists that will be a good sign. But if you ever have the misfortune to listen to BBC radio comedy shows they are full on anti British, anti Brexit, anti working class, pro EU, pro migrant commintern shitshows.
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  221. This is a great idea. Expect plenty of pushback from the hate mob.
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  222. It will be a battle to overthrow the Globalist order. Elon Musk has already made a start. Revealing the cabal behind Soros funded 'Media Matters' was a good start.
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  223.  @Slarti  The dumbest question ever.
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  224. Charlie Morrissey That's a situation where minority interests are not prioritised over the mainstream. Minority views are ok in the sense that they can spark discussion but allowed too much importance they can/will disrupt the peaceful order of society. The phrase is " the tail shouldn't wag the dog."
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  225.  @adrian_V99  Who, the Ukranians?
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  226. The EU's master plan is to create a country called Europe. To do that you must remove the icons and symbols that represent a nation's identity. That's why Remainers support entities like BLM, they have similar agendas. When the majority eventually win, the extremists will need to be removed from positions of influence. We've been too fair minded in the past and assumed good intentions from people and organisations with a subversive outlook.
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  227. Do ya think that in the light of this, that maybe, just maybe, women should rethink their 'rights' to have access to all men's spaces and sports? And maybe men should get a fair share in the divorce courts? Men being allowed to see their kids one Sunday per month, does that seem reasonable now we're talking about 'fairness'?
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  228. thelastdalek1 In the Classical Greek sense of Cassandra, I'd say that name was very appropriate.
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  229. I think at all levels of society we've lost our way. That said, there is nothing new under the sun, and we've always found a way to course correct. I'm genuinely surprised how easily our great institutions have been surrendered to Leftist ideologues. There will need to be a serious clear out at some stage in the (nearish) future.
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  230. The lovely Emma.
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  231. The BBC doesn't want to change and it doesn't want to reflect the views of the people that fund it. In such circumstances the only solution is for the BBC to self fund. Any business that ignores the wishes of it's customers, fails. There is no justification for the BBC's existence as things stand. It's a multi million pound organisation making programmes for a tiny audience. That is unsustainable and unfair.
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  232. Sayit AsItIs With the rise of national populism worldwide I'm hoping that we're moving away from the liberal consensus. It's heartening to see the likes of Rudd, Morgan, Stewart etc walking away from the Conservative Party. That suggests the political tide has turned and that hopefully that party is rediscovering its sense of national pride and purpose. If not a new political force a bit further to the right. But I like Nigel, Tice, and s few others and I saw Michelle Dewberry talking about joining, so maybe there's something there. We'll have to see, but the direction of travel is heartening, there are a lot of problems to sort out.
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  233. One of the big takeaways here, is that the Establishment has outlived it's usefulness. It used to safeguard this country's history and culture. It now has no useful purpose and no belief in what this country stands for. The good news is that the working class still have a very clear idea of Britain's place in the world and of our great history. In this regard I think it's time for a national renewal. In the same way Trump demonstrated the uselessness of the Republican party, we need to outplace the current executive at all levels and 'find ourselves' again. A sort of metaphorical gap year and then a national reboot.
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  234. Spot on Rob. When it's ordinary men being replaced by women, hey, that's feminist emancipation. All good. But now it's a group higher on the victim ladder claiming access to their spaces, they don't like it. No concerns when they were replacing men and claiming men's stuff.
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  235. Of course it's true. Why do you think that in a supposedly politically 'neutral' current affairs programme like Newsnight, all the key people are recruited from the Guardian or the Independent. Paul Mason , for God's sake, used to be the financial editor. He'll definitely give a balanced view on things. Balanced somewhere between Lenin and Stalin. Trotsky would be too right wing for his outlook. Paxman was the only presenter/journalist you could say was possibly not left wing. And that Guardianista mindset runs through all the BBC news programming. In fairness, in the run up to elections, by law, the BBC was fairly even handed. But past that it's a continuous stream of woke propaganda. Which is, by definition, anti patriotic and globalist in outlook.
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  236. SJ Borg But it seems he's coming back with a right wing news channel financed by Murdock. Andrew Neil should have the last laugh because I think very few people buy into the news agenda pushed by the BBC, C4 and SKY.
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  237. To misquote Fukayma, it's not the end of History, it's the end of Global Liberalism - which turned out to be more authoritarian than Socialism.
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  238. @Phil I don't disagree with that. I think TM was talking about a kind of civic Conservatism for the future. A Party that has moral standards and doesn't see the society purely in terms of financial transactions. Where government doesn't bow down to multi national corporations and people are responsible for their own actions. I think the absolute failure to conserve the things of value and change society for the better in the last 12 years shows how badly we need a new kind of Conservative thinking.
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  239.  @joannastanden5816  That's a strange point. Being 50% white, you are part of our culture. But then you are also part of another culture, only you know where you're real allegiance lies. If the following offends, too bad, some things need saying these days... but I do not accept that an Albanian coming over here in a dinghy will ever feel British, or more specifically, English. If I moved to Scotland I would not feel 'at home', I could pretend, wear some tartan, but I'm not tied to that land spiritually in the way a native Scotsman is. It's a deep feeling of belonging, probably the kind of feeling that makes young men risk their lives to fight in wars to protect their homeland. I feel like that about England, but I can't feel like that about Scotland. Scotland is not 'home'. This idea that anyone can be from anywhere, and anywhere is home, is a gimmick designed by Internationalists who see the whole world as a customer base. But look back through history and you will see people of any and all cultures fight to protect the place they call home. English people don't have anywhere else to go, so at some point they will have to say we need to protect our land.
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  240.  @turquoiseowl  I know, it would be a kind of defeat. But it also begs the question where does a country's history lie? In inanimate objects or in the hearts of patriots? If it's the latter then wherever those men settle becomes a part of England. A part with no Diane Abbot, Jeremy Corbyn or Shami Chakrabati. Starting to sound attractive, already.
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  241. In the 20s and 30s Eugenics were a fashionable idea to the chattering classes, once Hitler got behind it even the BBC concluded it was dangerous thinking. This is a modern day example of the same kind of trendy groupthink which will have horrible consequences. In fact it's the kind of thing a future BBC would make a documentary about and say "what were people thinking?" The irony that the BBC is right at the centre of it, will be conveniently forgotten. Because the Beeb is NEVER accountable.
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  242. That's because Conservatives support free speech and allow Communists to spout anti Democratic opinions. The Left, however, vilify anything they don't agree with and try to ban it. The irony is they think their doctrine is mainstream opinion.
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  243.  @TanyaJackson-no2rs  I don't know how old you are, but for a long time, every winter, we've had seasonal flu that would kill a percentage of the elderly and the vulnerable. And every year we were told that the NHS would be in crisis. Very weird in the 2 years of lockdown there was no seasonal flu but plenty of Covid, despite the exact same means of transmission. And you may have noticed, I said in the Summer, mid June, not a time of the year known for a winter season virus.
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  244. Nicholas Kellingley That's a very unfocused diatribe. There was never a time when the British people roamed the country pronouncing their freedom to all and sundry. The ordinary man has been under the thumb of wealth and patronage for hundreds of years. You could mention life in the poor house, child chimney sweeps and back breaking long hours in the fields just to survive. All this self congratulatory BS Dan Hannon talks about applied mainly to a few privileged people. But through it all the long suffering Brit has doffed his cap to his betters and gone and fought wars to protect a country that didn't much care for him. And the same is true with Covid, the British people, reasonable to a fault, have reluctantly accepted the restrictions because they care about 'doing the right thing'. That doesn't make them pussies as you allege, just reasonable. However, the government know we have finite patience and good will is wearing thin. As with Brexit, when the public decides on something it usually gets done. That's why the monarchy and the church, once powerful, are now merely symbolic reminders of the past.
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  245. What's interesting is that the vilest anti terf comments come from the "be kind" Left. The people giving terfs the most support are adult straight traditional men, the ones labelled by these women as the Patriarchy. It seems to me that many of modern day problems stem from progressive ideas that sounded good but have not worked out as expected. With this in mind, an assessment of traditional ideas and how they might be retooled for modern life could be an answer to the problems facing society. I'm sure most men snd women would be, overall, happier without much of the progressive ideology which is tearing society apart. Believe it or not there are societies around the world where men and women work and live happily together without a constant questioning of the rules and customs of everyday life.
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  246. If men really were the oppressive figures portrayed by feminists I don't think they 'd have been so compliant with their demonisation. I think we've been too reasonable, stepped back too far for our own good. But when wars start, who are the ones expected to die?
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  247. ​ @EJS1972  Interesting observation. Personally, I don't think we're a good fit for Europe. Canada, Australia and NZ are crazy woke, so maybe America is the most obvious connection for us. I do think that we need to reverse this Declinism that afflicts middle class British liberals. Britain has a strong entrepreneurial bent, a history of making quality goods ( Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Saville Row, etc) music and the creative industries. We can be great, but we need to get past this BBC loser mindset. After 50 years of progressive politics we now find ourselves worse off than when we did things in the traditional, tried and tested, way. The best way forward is to go backward. That's the future.
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  248.  @evolassunglasses4673  Probably true. But I think at that time we chose to accept a US world dominance over a potential Soviet world dominance, hence the Cold War. WW2 bankrupted us. It's not as if we had a huge choice at the time. My parents would tell me stories about how rationing persisted until the late 50s. Meanwhile, America had never been wealthier, nor USSR a greater threat
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  249. Thanks NCF for another year of exemplary programming. Your commitment to patriotic, thoughtful and respectful debate is setting a standard others should follow. Hopefully we'll see more of the same in the new year. Keep it up.
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  250.  @NorfolkSceptic  I'd be asking why so many supporting net zero speak with Russian and Chinese accents. Fact. Research shows they have been in the background sponsoring climate change activist organisations.
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  251.  @NorfolkSceptic  Cometh the hour, cometh the man.
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  252. The Russians still have a lot of the traditional values we used to have. That is why the ultra Liberal Americans hate them. Russia has no Tr:ans or L-G-B-T-Q lobby, it has it's trad religion, no feminist harpies, in many ways itooks like us 30 years ago.
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  253.  @FirstLast-rb5zj  I don't know if you're familiar with Academic Agent but his most recent 'Derpest Lore' highlights a documentary about how Winston Churchill went from disaster to disaster as a politician and then got us involved in war that bankrupted us and destroyed the Empire. And yet he's a national hero. In brief, we should have let Hitler and Stalin fight it out and made peace with the winner. We were fighting for European freedom but despite 'winning' the war, half of Europe was now under a nuclear armed Communist, not Nazi, regime and we were bankrupt and deep in debt to the US, who were now richer than anyone else. So, yes, you're right, all these wars are paid for with the lives of young men and usually are thoroughly pointless exercises in national ego.
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  254. I'm sick of the Left's constant appeal to emotional arguments. You will never have a fair society because people are all different. Give everyone a fair chance but don't try to gerrymander outcomes, we need to strive, struggle and advance ourselves, the Left want to treat us like children and remove what makes everyone special in different ways.
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  255. Choleric Melancholic This is my concern about female politicians and the current feminising of politics. It seems politicians these days are terrified of being accused of lacking empathy. I don't need to see them weeping for the poor, I just want to see them being efficient and effective.
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  256. Choleric Melancholic Whatever people think about Mrs Thatcher, she was a leader, willing to be hated in pursuit of a better country. Look at Boris, an overblown verbose public schoolboy. He's not fit to shine Churchill's slippers. Leadership requires bravery and beliefs, with the exception of Nigel I see very few politicians willing to go against the grain. The current crop are a very poor lot, just careerists.
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  257. Choleric Melancholic Well, I think the myth of Conservative competence has been blown away. The idea of 'solid fiscal principles ' as an antidote to Labour's extravagance has surely been blown away. I'm wondering if, in the scheme of things, this is the perfect storm for a new party headed by Nigel and the impressive Richard Tyce. I also think that the era of Eton et al as a production line for polished but vacuous career politicians is coming to an end.
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  258.  @evolassunglasses4673  I think, for me, the big hope is that the 'new' Republican party seems to be opposed to this Global Liberalism ideology. As the Mitchell and Webb sketch goes "Are we the baddies?", yes we are, and I think the extreme deep state reaction to Trump was due to them realising that he was anti Globalist, anti permanent wars, and anti identity politics. The big joke is that Liberalism, as practiced in the west, is way more hegemonic on a global scale than the Russian and Chinese systems. But more and more of us are seeing that. I believe a post Globslist world, if we can achieve it, is capable of existing and respecting different values and can pull us back from the kind of nuclear brinkmanship we see Liberals so blasé about. Hungary seems to be able to deal equally with different systems because it isn't expansionist in outlook. Quite the opposite of the US and the EU. The US under Trump or DeSantis will lead us out of this mess. That's the hope.
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  259. That aside, abortion is not a constitutional issue, so the decision to allow states to sort out their own positions makes sense. Biden and his team have entirely misrepresented the verdict to whip up hysteria in a desperate bid to salvage something from the mid terms. After years of investigation the Democrats found not one single thing to impeach Trump for Biden is swimming in corruption, he and his degenerate son.
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  260. The EU is basically a tool of US influence in Europe. We need to wake, the Americans are our rivals, not our friends.
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  261. R Tim I'd agree with most of that. I've heard your argument about offence "being taken" before and I'm not entirely convinced. If I said your ideas were puerile and showed a lack of insight, you'd have good reason to be annoyed. You're blaming the recipient of the insult for feeling insulted. But really it's the insulter who is the one to blame. That argument essentially gives a person carte blanche to be rude. That can't be logical. And as I said previously I agree with Starkey's main thrust about cancel culture and earlier comments about diversity and BLM, I just find him a bit too pleased with himself. I also don't think the intellectual class appreciate their arguments being described as cack handed especially as in his interview with Darren Grimes, Starkey made his major faux pas, the one that lost him academic posts, writing commissions etc. He will say his comments were "misinterpreted" but I'd argue that they really were cack handed and ill judged.
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  262. R Tim Nearly but not quite. One of the people might intuit that the dog was barking in pain, the other might interpret it as aggressive barking. So I don't think that point stands scrutiny. And when it's two human beings talking you can actually hear their words, so you're not relying on intuition or guesswork. And if I hear one speaker saying mildly offensive stuff, I can hear that with my own ears. I can tell he's being overbearing. Starkey didn't say "Dr Peterson", or "Jordan Peterson" if he was being informal, he just says "Peterson". That sounds a bit disrespectful to these ears. And in closing, you can't get away with saying "damn blacks" these days. I agree with the point about universities but I don't think that was the 'secret reason' for his cancellation.
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  263. R Tim I think I may have an early draft of your message here. Actually, I think you have it back to front. The interpretation of a dog barking is far more subjective than two people talking. As I said, I might hear a frightened dog you might hear the same sound and interpret it as aggressive. Those are subjective because the dog can't explain himself. In a debate we hear the words, we hear the tone of voice we are much more able to make an objective judgement about what's being said. You suggested that Starkey had been shut down 'by persons unknown' for his views on Universities. I find that unlikely, the hyper fixation on all things perceived as 'racist' seems far more likely to be the cause of his cancellation. But I do agree that universities are handling everything badly these days. I wonder if part of the problem is to do with students being 'customers', paying for an education and assuming they have a customer's right to call the shots on campus. I think as civilised human beings we are required to not be out and out rude to people. A little decorum goes a long way, I think you can be a bit salty, a bit edgy but I really don't think we should be too potty mouthed....although some people can be exasperating.
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  264. R Tim When students become customers I suppose it's to be expected that the faculty/ student relationship will change. The thing is I agree with much of what Starkey says, there's a saying that all men love the sound of their own voice, in Starkey's case I think that is unquestionable and in the Grimes interview I think he was so carried away by the opportunity to 'wax lyrical' on his favourite topics that he over stepped the mark. And I'm pretty sure he admitted that later. But anyway, we've exchanged our views, maybe found some areas of agreement and perhaps agree to differ on matters relating to the Prof. Live long and prosper, as they say somewhere in the universe.
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  265. R Tim "Too far" in the current climate of extreme racial sensitivity. He achieved nothing with that slip of the tongue and did himself a great deal of harm as a result.
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  266. R Tim Anything that deviates from 'normal' lasts a little while then people get bored, the media gets bored and things move on. IMO this Woke thing is about a small group using social media to intimidate big organisations with the threat of bad publicity. As it becomes clear that those people have no real power, they will have less and less influence. And then all the race baiters will be denuded of their armour and eventually replaced. Order always reasserts itself. It's just a nuisance while it lasts.
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  267. Tim Powell 100%. You can debate all day long about the perceived unfairness of it all but we are where we are. Starkey lost sight of that. Maybe off camera he gets away with that kind of phraseology, slightly intemperate imo, but I think in some ways he's like an overeducated child prodigy who suddenly bumps into someone who says 'no'. And now he's rationalising. A street smart person knows the parameters and stays one step ahead of the thought police. Getting himself cancelled takes one more useful voice out of the debate. You need to keep all 11 players on the pitch, to coin a phrase.
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  268. R Tim Yes, "the Left will eat itself" has become something of a meme because it's true.
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  269. R Tim Rowling and Linehan were cancelled over a specific issue, what designates a 'woman'? They have the traditional, correct opinion, but not the politically correct opinion. And never the twain etc. Starkey got himself cancelled for his language 'a slip of the tongue', it was a mistake on his part, but one he should have seen coming. My analogy was based on the idea that the prodigy runs into the world of hard reality. And stares uncomprehendingly at a world rejecting his genius. When you're driving on ice you drive with extra care. You can say 'the ice shouldn't be there', but it is and it's your responsibility to deal with it. So, in summation, two very different cases.
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  270. R Tim Come on, I appreciate the fact that you're trying to defend him but you have to stay real. I'd agree if he'd used a wrong pronoun but "damn blacks" isn't a slight misinterpretation, is it?
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  271. R Tim You keep doing this. You keep making this "But what about" argument. It's getting very tiring.
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  272. R Tim How can I tell you when it finishes, all that I know is that it's here now and you have to work within the limitations. A lot of this looks like the 60s, Black Panthers, 68 riots etc. That moved on. The English Court spoke French for 100 years, that stopped. The prudish Victorians covered piano legs while frequenting prostitutes, that hypocrisy moved on. The social mores and fashions eventually become dated/ boring and society moves on. Who knows? the world is taking a darker turn, maybe we'll be so fearful of WW3 that we start to think about different things.
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  273. M Rede Marketing. Someone's told them it will give the company a friendly face.
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  274. Mr Lowe is gold. Pure gold. An outpost of common sense and zero BS in a den of mediocrity and corruption. If Nigel stepped down, this is the guy to take over. Not Tice.
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  275. Peterson's empire was built on sand, his performances buttressed by the Dutch courage of Benzodiazepines. He claims not to have realised their addictiveness as he gobbled them back by the handful. At the same time calling incels 'pathetic worms' or some such slight. Going round the world charging people for handshakes while hooked. His daughter tries to protect the family brand claiming it was something else entirely. Her recent video was, to my mind, an exercise in deflection. Dave Rubin has more of the ground based common sense intelligence and is actively building platforms for the marginalised Conservative voices in society while Jordan Peterson hides under the bedcovers. I speak as a former supporter of JP, he's made a fortune but I can't support the way he presented himself. He could have shown a bit of vulnerability but he chose a different path which he couldn't sustain.
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  276. Thanks. I'll take that. The modern obsession with empathy and fear of saying anything that might be in any way construed as judgemental is one of our biggest problems. "Judge not lest he be judged"', well, he judged the incels and I judge him. Don't abuse others for their weakness when you're abusing prescription drugs to deal with your own issues.
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  277.  @danhoppy5517  That's just wrong. Julia Hartley Brewer was constantly pushing back, as were Mike Graham and Kev O'Sullivan. Remember they were briefly banned by YT? Same on GB News, Neil Oliver, Farage, Dan Wooten, like Talk radio, had many interviews with maverick voices like the signees of the Great Barrington Declaration and Karol Sikora. It's important to get your facts right after what's gone on recently.
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  278.  @danhoppy5517  So. It would be better if all the presenters at TalkTV and GBNews turn off the cameras and and talk to half a dozen invited guests in their studios so that they could speak 'their truth' regardless of Offcom or YT? Fantastic idea. Very pure. I'm sure masterminds like yourself would be happy with that kind of ideological purity.
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  279. They've done even better. Screwed the economy AND destroyed western civilisation.
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  280. Peter hit the nail on the head there. The people deciding to let all these immigrants in DO NOT WANT England to remain as it always has looked. They hate the country and they want to change it. Pure and Simple.
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  281. 7M views, well done. But the BBC would still find a reason to axe your show.
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  282. The public supported Brexit on the basic assumption that the Tories would be competent enough to do something with it. Few people realised that the Conservative's unique combination of incompetence and fear of actual decision making would doom the whole thing to failure. At the moment we are neither in nor out, the worst of both worlds. On the upside, it has illustrated that the Conservative Party is functionally dead. It's been running round like a headless chicken for years, totally incapable of deciding which side of the centre it belongs in. We can see quite clearly now that it is a pale shade of red and absolutely wedded to the Progressive cause. And we don't need 3 duplicate parties. Which means the Conservative party requires a trip to the Tavistock Clinic for reassignment surgery as a proper right of centre party. The Goves, Hancocks, Johnsons, Hunts all have to go and someone like Lee Anderson, a real Conservative, made leader. Which would normally be unthinkable as he is not a former Eton and Oxford alumni, but look at where those people have taken us. Time for a new start. With new ideas.
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  283. That's the main reason the EU hates Hungary. They function in the same way as Sweden did with Covid. The exception that proves the majority are wrong. Apparently Orban's election win was 'anti Democratic'. ? Go figure.
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  284. I think Peter has a mental concept of Conservativism that that never matches with the reality of the venal power obsessed careerists who populate and control the party.
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  285. Politicians have conspired with big business to replace the white British with immigrants. This works for both of them. 1. A nice supply of unskilled cheap labour to deliver imported Chinese made goods and 2. A non patriotic new set of voters with no concerns about English history or culture who will vote for pro Globalist political parties. They want us out. We need to get rid of them. We have the numerical advantage, for the moment.
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  286. So, life was better for the ordinary person in the Victorian era? They may have been poor and miserable but they were 'free'. That's a high price to put on freedom. Of course, a non tax system suits the wealthy, it always did.
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  287.  @RowanProductions  And that made them, to a degree, unwhippable, because they were of independent means. Today's lot want nothing more than advancement, so they'll say anything they're told to by the whips. I will say this new raft of Red Wall mp's seem a lot more principled and a lot more patriotic than the public school educated idiots that usually infest the Conservative party. In short, there is potentially a new vitality in the party created by solidly principled working class patriotic mp's completely disillusioned by the Left.
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  288. These people who say "we need to change the electoral system to win" etc etc. We don't. Like the Brexit party, form a patriotic alliance party and undercut the Conservatives in the next election that masses of true Brits will vote for. And then use our power to strangle the Conservative Party into acting in the people's interests. I'm sure it can be done. We have the fight of our lives on our hands. We must be up for it.
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  289. The so called 'educated classes' comprise just over 10% of the population. The grip they have on media and politics is far beyond their numbers. A readjustment is required and much less attention paid to pandering to minority groups.
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  290. Fantastic points Peter. We need to pressure our local Conservative MP's to not be complacent, to start recapturing lost ground, to reassert the important timeless British values that made this a great country. The Leftist stranglehold on the media has cowed Conservatism for too long. We were right about Brexit and look what it did for Boris. We're right about this too. Now is the time. Look at America to see what happens when the Liberal corporate Left controls the media, anarchy. This is a moment that must not be lost.
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  291. I'm thinking of launching a magazine called European Fourth Reich. I stand just as good a chance of getting it on the shelves of WH Smith than this non controversial magazine.
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  292. Flying Carpet Unless you can find a party that is tailor made to your exact requirements, you will need to compromise. That's what living in a democracy is. No one ever gets exactly what they want. But in the last election of you wanted Brexit you didn't vote Labour or Liberal because they were anti.
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  293. jago xxx Well, that is obviously false. If it were true we wouldn't have spent 4 years fighting off the Remainer's efforts to keep us in. Or the EU's efforts to keep us in their grasp. You need to be tighter on your analysis of the facts before you spout rubbish.
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  294. jago xxx Your premise isn't built on any logic. How can you have less freedom after leaving an organisation which has rules concerning every aspect of daily life? You could argue it may be financially less viable being outside the organisation but it's pure nonsense to suggest we have 'less' freedom. There's absolutely no sense to that point of view.
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  295. Blair is and was as bad Thatcher. But they've all sold us out to global organisations and big business. Now is the time to make a stand.
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  296.  @bre9942  I kind of agree with net zero. But it's how you achieve it that is the big issue. If we can run everything on nuclear, potentially cheaper and more efficient, I can't see why not. Electric cars could be viable, but the present technology is nowhere near ready. Many technological innovations are required to achieve zero and nobody should suffer loss of freedom, leisure or impoverishment in it's pursuit. Does that make me a globalist? I don't think so.
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  297.  @bre9942  No. You presenting shades of grey as black and white. It's too early to tell, but if Truss does start doing some good things, green tax cuts etc I will vote for her to keep Labour out. Labour are still extremists, Starmer was a Communist. So, while Globalism is bad, Communism with all the intersectionality politics is, to me, far worse. Plus, Labour are even more globalist and pro EU than the Conservatives. And that's saying something. If Richard Tice would stop talking and start doing something with Reform they might be an option be is a huge disappointment. Smarmy and Lazy
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  298.  @bre9942  Look at the Democrats in America. You're naive if you think you can trust the extreme Left to play by any rules. No matter how bad the Tories are, the Left are always 10x worse.
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  299.  @bre9942  Now you're just being silly. Why not come back when you hit puberty. Time for bed.
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  300.  @warmasterhorus  Arguably, Suella is even more based than Kemi. There is an argument that neither are quite ready yet, not having held any of the big offices and being tested at that level. Neither has David Frost. But if those 3 are the future, that can only be good for the Right.
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  301. The Left are trying to do to the UK what they've done in the USA. We must not step back. Not one step back! If companies bend the knee to the Left, we in the centre must apply counter pressure. Threaten to boycott. Do not let the Twitter mob win.
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  302. When you factor in that in 2019 Bill Gates invested $50 million in a company researching the M-R-N-A virus and 2 years later he was $500m wealthier, it kinda makes you think someone knew what was being planned.
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  303. Blame our friends the Americans. Created upheaval in North Africa and subsequent waves of immigration into Europe, then started a war against Russia to cut off supplies of energy to Germany and now preventing Germany trading with China. And the Germans accept it all. Actually, Germany needs to start rebuilding relations with Russia. In my opinion, Europeans have more similarities with traditional Russia than power hungry America.
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  304. London has become a dumping ground for all the world's trash. The few Brits that still there are sectioned off in expensive areas, untouched by the human squalor. If they started moving 3rd world immigrants into leafy Hampstead or Islington it would be like administering a suppository, things would start moving quickly through the body politic.
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  305. I can't believe how Sinn Fein, so anti the UK in the past, is now so willing to flood the country with Africans and global citizens of any creed or colour at the expense of their own people and culture.
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  306.  @soothsayer1964  He should take a rifle and that stupid cowboy hat and hit the trenches.
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  307. I'd happily buy a one way ticket for that race baiting idiot 'Dr' Kehinde Andrews. He takes every opportunity to call us the worst kind of racists while enjoying all the benefits of an advanced society. I'm sure he'd be a lot happier fighting for a loaf of bread in Zimbabwe.
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  308. Roger Rodgers Well done for rebutting Hitchens' pointlessly nihilistic commentary. He's been wrong on the big issues but never seems to be taken to task for it. He's awful. And he's the lesser of the Hitchens brothers.
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  309. The Chinese have correctly identified that money is the key to influence in the west. On a personal level and a structural level. Money buys influence. Colleges accept Chinese finance. College professors accept Chinese finance. If the reverse happened, a Chinese professor would find himself in jail at best, the College with a sudden change of administration. There is a rot and decay in the west that the Chinese have figured out how to exploit to their advantage. The big question is, do we have enough of a survival instinct to do something about it or do we accept that our time, like Rome's, is up?
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  310.  @kw2299  No. That's the line Globalists are trying to use to discredit her. Guilt by association? No thanks.
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  311. Charles is a midwit. An eco fanatic who flies a private jet and drives an Aston Martin around his estate.
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  312. Diversity ony works one way.
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  313. ​ @orionxtc1119  Japan has a serious demographic problem. Bringing in 3rd worlders instead of incentivising Japs to have larger families, starting younger, is the wrong, potentially disastrous, solution to the problem.
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  314. Kemi is still there and is now building a power base in the party. I expect Lord Frost to be part of that. I'm done with Steve bloody Baker, all talk, no do. Just like smarmy Richard Tice.
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  315. "The United States is a representative democracy. This means that our government is elected by citizens. Here, citizens vote for their government officials. These officials represent the citizens' ideas and concerns in government." You need to do some research before you start correcting people.
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  316.  @evolassunglasses4673  If we still elect representatives, it's a democracy. You're describing a tendency within democracy. Democracy will be felt in the November US mid terms when the Democrats will get obliterated.
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  317.  @evolassunglasses4673  International finance is not necessarily a bad thing. Unconstrained I ternational finance is not good. Globalism began as a way of drawing various countries around the world into a peaceful trading system. The theory was that countries that trade together don't go to war. Of course it's been hijacked by shadowy figures, but the original intention was not sinister. It's like the Internet, it's made available to the public in the hope that it will do good but it's hijacked by pornographers, terrorists and political nut jobs.
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  318.  @evolassunglasses4673  Trump stood against that, its why the Liberal globalists hate him. But good old democracy will restore him or DeSantis to power and then we can start getting rid of it.
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  319.  @JP-ve7pp  Democracy isn't perfect in any society, never has been, but as Churchill said, it's the least worst of all the alternatives.
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  320. The Tories are not the friends of Conservatives. They are part of the progressive uniparty. In 60 years of progressivism not one thing in the UK is better than before.
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  321. The Left seem to think extreme Left doctrine is mainstream opinion. Even innocuous Conservative thought they see as an outrageous attack on democracy.
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  322. Unfortunately I think that is true. A whole era, ushered in by Blair and his Liberal world order has to come crashing in on our heads before the Establishment will accept that we need to change direction. It's not going to be pretty, and smart politicians, if we had any, would head off the disaster before it happens, but while Europe turns Right, we turn Left. That is symptomatic of how this country rolls. Always out of step.
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  323. It means you're one of Peter's drinking mates. And a good chap.
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  324. Bada I'll agree with you about extremes of ideology, and that's what we're dealing with here. Ask Lisa Nand what a woman is and she can't answer. Ask Dawn Butler if children are born boys or girls and she'll say " neither". Ask any Labour politician if they believe in national borders and they'll tell you 'no'. Ask BLM if they support the nuclear family. No. So there you have it, maybe you're so immersed in Socialism you've lost sight of reality but Labour is definitely home to extremist ideologies.
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  325. Bada It's true. I hid behind actual facts and figures while you ripped my argument apart with pathetic insults and generalised buffoonery. Well done, sir. That's exactly how to defeat a 'right winger', it may even work on a 'white supremacist', if anyone can actually track one down.
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  326. It's not surprising that a Leftist thinks everything's great in schools. That's the problem in a nutshell.
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  327. There's an awful lot of Phillips telling us how insightful she was and how far ahead. Gets a bit tedious after a while. Oh and apparently she wrote a couple of books, if you missed the plug.
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  328. Did the scumbag scribbler lose his job?
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  329. I'm slightly bothered by Conservative JHB advocating for gay marriage whe she is so vocally anti trans. It seems she's one of these Cameron Tories, not a trad Tory, and Cameron was a Blairite disaster for Britain.
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  330. I can't stand Hitchens. He sits back, says everything's shit, there's no future, no one to vote for. He offers nothing but negativity, like an undertaker standing in a WW1 British trench. His ability to predict events is faulty. Why anyone bothers to listen to a word from this blowhard astounds me.
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  331. Many British institutions have conspired in their own destruction. We've reached a point where they all need cleaning out and rebooting with a renewed sense of purpose. This, I think, is Liberalism's last stand before the deluge.
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  332. Intellectuals can convince themselves of anything, and I'm afraid Peter has convincef himself of a narrative wherein he was ignored and because of that Conservatism is over. I disagree. The British people are inherently conservative, to the degree that the Labour party has given up on the working class in favour of graduates and immigrants. It's just that this particular Conservative party isn't offering what the publc wants. Their Conservatism is entirely foused on the economy, the populace believes in patriotism and our links to the land that has sustained us over centuries. That is a fatal mismatch and there will inevitably be a realignment on the Right. Peter will probably complain, because these are the same people who believe in the death penalty and other ideas that will offend inherently middle class observers like Mr Hitchens. But it will surely happen because the vountry is on a life support machine at the moment. We went thriugh 10+ years of rebuilding after WW2 and that is what is needed to take an economy that is on it's knees to one that reflects traditional British manufacturing. Sorry Peter, your narrative is one of inevitable doom. What we need is a generation of 'can do' Brits to drive us forward. A parallel. You're in a trench in WW1, on one side of you, you have Peter who is convinced we're all going to die, radiating negativity, on the other side of you is someone with a positive message, "We can do this. Move fast, keep low to the ground don't run a predictable path". I know who I'd rather believe in and listen to. Peter is not giving a message that is of any use to us, he's demoralised and has given up, those people deag everybody down. Sorry Peter, but you're a broken record, you could have taken on the role of leader of this new generation of conservatives, but you failed them.
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  333. powerbite92 Idiot. She was already a successful journalist. She got this gig because she was one of the best promoters of Brexit on tv. She's done her bit, what have you done?
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  334. Chips1889 She admits that. Said she supported lockdown because she thought it was correct at the time. But as the government incompetence became clear she changed her mind. That's what intelligent people do. Only Ideologues and fools stick to the same opinion when all the evidence points the opposite way.
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  335. I think my comment about going to fight to protect the interest of the Clin-tons and O-bam-a was automatically deleted. But that's what it is, a war for L-ibera-l hegemony. No thanks.
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  336. This country needs a proper right sided party. If the conservatives screw up they might not have the chance to get back again.
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  337. @Van Brighouse Don't be foolish. That's a poor analysis. This country was in a huge mess all through the 70s before she came to power. 3 day weeks, power cuts, strikes everywhere, Labour's trip to the IMF, the bin men's strike and unburied bodies. Yes Mrs Thatcher administered tough medicine but the 80s economic boom was down to her.
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  338.  @Slarti  Not only did you ask stupid questions you lack the creativity to think of a clever comeback. Just piggyback on mine. Like when an annoying kid repeats everything you say.
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  339. I think this was a bit unfair. We were the first nation to emerge from lockdown. Even in the UK the Scots, Welsh and Irish lagged behind England. And secondly, we are a reasonable, civilised society, we are not hot headed like the French, we'll show good faith up to a point, and then we push back. We came out of lockdown before France, Germany Italy etc. So this mischaracterisation by a fake yank is not accurate.
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  340.  @hannannah1uk  Someone once pointed out to me that all men over 50 are absolute scoundrels. Hard to dispute.
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  341. Very weak presenter, no gravitas or capability of maintaining order. GB News news needs to take presenter quality seriously. She's too young and to weak.
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  342. What bothers me is how easily all these institutions have been to undermine. Clearly, this current antipathy to Whiteness is a fashion trend, but sage institutions, the ones you'd expect to be immune from trendy groupthink, have all fallen prey. It just indicates how shallow our so called intellectual class are in their thinking. And also how foolish, given that the majority of them are, ahem, White. Oh, but not so contrite that they are willing to hand over their well paid jobs to a deserving "person of colour". Absolute absurd hypocrisy.
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  343. BARBELL SAMURAI No. The upper and working class both have a patriotic outlook on the world. Middle class people hate their own country, hate the aristos for their wealth, and hate the working class for their disinterest in middle class mores and affectations. Orwell wrote about this strange relationship.
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  344. Peter. What is this country? Who or What is Britain? It's a piece of land with a group of people and an attitude to life that has changed the world. This country is the people. If we all moved to anther piece of land we would still be British. If this land mass was entirely occupied by Somalis and Eritreans it would not be Britain. The British people made the country, the British people are the country. Not the King, not Whitehall, not the BBC. When Jon Snow said on C4 news "I've never seen so many white people", he was looking at Britain. And those are the people he and his type despise. None of us want to fight to protect him and his friends or all our new arrivals that hate our country but want the best of what we have created here.
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  345.  @salfordguy399  Wow. Little Englander/Homophobe alert.
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  346.  @salfordguy399  Absolute classic example of projection. Keep on, I'm fascinated to know how you see yourself.
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  347. ​ @JollyGraham  And voting Labour, with their Pandora's box of poisonous social policies is preferable to Reform? Are you mad. You want an anti Islam Law? You want women to start losing their rights and having to cover their hair in public? That's preferable to Reform? You must be clinically mad.
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  348. I wish people would point out that Disney don't promote gayness and the woke agenda in China. Nor many other countries they sell to that are anti progressive. They do it here because they know they can get away with it.
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  349.  @Johnny-sj9sj  Not intentionally. Delivery drivers are much more useful than that waste of space. Arguably he's not even royal.
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  350. It's difficult to believe this is the country that gave the world so much. Full of 3rd world scroungers and deep pocketed politicians. We are so far down the wrong track It's ridiculous.
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  351. I really think Charles makes errors of judgement much too often. He just makes the Royal family look weak. To invite those two to the Coronation is inviting more trouble and controversy.
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  352. Makes no sense. Most of them just want free housing and the majority are on benefits. What exactly are they meant to be adding to our country?
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  353. Good point. Actually the Hancock files show them all to be groupthink self- promoters. None of the 'sacred' rules "Follow the Science" etc, had ANY basis in fact. It was all an exercise in manipulating the population as an end in itself.
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  354. People might hate the messenger but the message is on point. BTW, why do so many 'anti racist' urban types live in 100% white enclaves and never marry blacks or Asians?
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  355.  @chad0x  If I did do you think I'd share them with a daft ox like you!!🤣🤣🤣
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  356.  @timothyharris4708  Are you so dense that you can't see I was joking? The British Empire is long gone, the ludicrousness of the idea is why I threw it in and yet you are so dim-witted that a. You couldn't see it was a joke and b. You then assume you are capable of impugning my intellect. In all honesty, you've really served yourself up here 'timothyharris'. You need to grow up a bit, mature, reflect on you lack of humour and get a meaningful job, like driving a bus or delivering letters. Something to take you away from the world of politics which, evidently, you don't understand.
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  357. Outstanding observation Peter. Yes. Betrayed their own population. Exactly like the rust belt Americans that Trump was speaking for. If you want to globalise a country, first thing you must do is demoralise the population, then replace them with a new serf class. That's why the US has an open southern border, that's why we have uncontrolled immigration. Total betrayal by the political class. If only Richard Tice could wake himself from his complacency and start pushing this message.
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  358. It's a huge sellout by the political class. That's why they all need to go and be replaced by new people.
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  359. I don't understand the fascination with Israel. It's a settler colony in the ME that seems intent on fighting with all It's neighbours.
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  360.  @OliverKitkat  Just out of interest does anyone in the real world still call people 'babe', you only usually hear it in faux working class communities on TV these days. "Oy, I wanna word wiv you" " What is it, babe, what's doin' your 'ead in?". "You, yor stressin' me out..." etc
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  361. Jim Bo That's a good question. I believe it's difficult to sack these mandarins, so the best you can do is move them out into less important jobs. But as they know they have considerable power there is a concerted push back. However, I've been encouraged by Dominic Cummings' determined opposition to Whitehall and despite Boris's left leanings I think DC has a sense of mission to clear out the progressives, which he seems to be doing with some success.
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  362. In trying to appeal to all they appeal to no one. Exactly the same as the Conservative Party. Both institutions are ready to be buried.
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  363. Blimey, some people are sharp eyed. 👍😆
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  364. Russia's values of patriotism and traditional family are not that different ours. The US elite want to enrich huge corporations and promote ho-mo-sex and tr-ans-sex, and that's who we'd be dying for? Not me.
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  365. I agree with your analysis. This country was on a similar trajectory until MrsT took over. Tough medicine, but it worked. I'm hoping Kemi or Lord Frost can be in line to start the essential push back to something like competence and patriotism. Two very unpopular words in modern Conservative circles.
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  366. She's a nutcase and so are we for putting up with this rubbish.
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  367. You have to hit rock bottom before you can turn things around. You have to reach a point where people start to see reality rather than this lazy, soft belly Liberal outlook that has infected everyone. Once the educated elite start to feel threatened by social breakdown, then discussions about change start to happen. All the while it is only 'ordinary people' suffering nothing changes. But it's starting to happen. Our three posh interlocutors see what's going on and feel brave enough to talk about it.
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  368. Starting to look that way but he's had a mountain to climb.
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  369. Alan Kenworthy So, talk about the real world as opposed to the armchair theorist. The Brexit party does not have any ministerial experience it's a pressure group not a party capable of running a government. Ukip even more so. The Tories are the main game in town tor people of a right-ish viewpoint. Boris has had every single political hurdle put in front of him.And to a degree he's managed some success but he is fighting all the opposition parties, the speaker, the civil service and the likes of Gina Miller backed by bankers and Soros. Yes, he failed to get us out by the 31st but people like you just want to put the boot in because he couldn't defeat the deep establishment. Your verdict is the simplistic vision of the malcontent.
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  370. Sayit AsItIs So in the Brexit party you have Claire Fox, great lady, an atheistic Communist, Anne Widdecombe, a devout Christian Right Winger, and a cross section of society who all agree on one policy. That is not a coherent party with an ideology to run the economy, transport, NHS, the armed forces and education policy. They will be controlled by the civil service due to their lack of ministerial experience. To just say Suzanne Evans wrote a great manifesto is not the same as saying here is a Party ready to run a country.
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  371. Clive Goodman And once you get past her, who is there? Or is she going to multi-task all the high offices of state, while Nigel's in the pub or the LBC studio.
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  372. Sayit AsItIs To some degree I agree with you but the civil service will tear political virgins apart if they get into power. As it is 'Whitehall Mandarins' represent the deep state, they believe their role is to 'guide' ministers down what they believe is the right route for the country and influence policy making. In one way this can provide continuity, in another it seeks to redirect policy in a way that bypasses democracy. That's why I'd be very cautious about having non seasoned politicians in the important jobs. Somehow we need to change the entire ethos of the civil service to actually change the system. And that would be a major task. An obvious example would be Europe, the CS are probably more loyal to the EU than Britain. That needs to change. But identifying the problem and fixing it are two separate things. The Brexit party has no coherent philosophy other than getting out of Europe, we need a proper right wing party to take us forward.
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  373. veena paulson Thanks. With Boris forging a good lead and Labour revealing themselves as clowns, I think everything I said is turning out to be correct.
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  374. Peter, can you try to control the hand movements please? Nancy Pelosi does it all the time, hands flying a over the place. Just a little less. That said, I love what you're doing here with the NCF.
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  375. University should be the preserve of the sciences and mathematics. Perhaps history and geography. But no politics and no politically slanted topics or political evaluations of core subjects. Teachers breaking this rule should be sacked and ther department defunded for a period.
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  376. So true. We defend our families. But not new arrivals, sellout politicians or a liberalestablishment that hates us.
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  377. In Hungary ALL the opposition parties united trying to defeat Orban in the general election. He won, receiving 2/3 of the vote. That is a society saying we, the majority, are absolutely in agreement with our leadership. It's right the media reflects that majority.
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  378.  @terryhand  I don't think you understand the facts. In the UK, I would say a majority of the population leans to the right, we're a small C Conservative nation, yet our media is dominantly Left, so it's representing the minority views of the cosmopolitan types, not the majority. Orban defeated the progressive Left, the Greens, and the extremes of both sides. All the opposition. Yet the Hungarian media is representative of the 2/3 majority that voted for him. You may not like it, but that's a fair representation. It's not a minority preaching to the majority, like we have in the UK.
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  379. @Phil Very interesting. The Rab Butler quote is obviously a partisan view of capitalism and is to some extent true. However. Capitalism, even bad Capitalism, is always better than the Left wing alternative, I submit, because the individual is a free citizen. In the USSR they had grinding poverty and an oppressive state down system that could send you to a Gulag if you tried to resist their authoritarianism. We've always undervalued our western freedom and now it's starting to be picked away at by the state ( all 3 main parties) I think people are starting to see the real value of individual liberty. To expect Capitalism to never screw up and always maintain full employment is in my opinion a pipe dream. Yes, there are crashes, because some aspect of the economy has become overheated, but I think you have to accept that there are bugs in the system. That said, you might get 100 % employment in the USSR, but if that means a dismal experience of factory or field work while Communist officials ride around in black cars and arrest people for wrongthink, I'd rather have our system, warts and all, than theirs. A lot of British socialist intellectuals, enjoying all the benefits of western freedom, lauded Communism in Russia, but never acknowledged the godawful prison-like lives the Russian people were forced to endure.
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  380. @Phil You're correct, I mistaking Rab Butler for Nye Bevan.
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  381.  @TheNobbynoonar  Neither Conservative nor Liberal. Someone purely out for themselves.
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  382.  @salfordguy399  🙋‍♂️
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  383. These 'thugs' are the guys that fight our wars so that effeminate middle class manlets like Winston Marshall can pontificate for a living. Our priorities are all wrong, we've let a class of self important, faux educated chatterers make decisions. Which have mostly turned out wrong. Did any of Tony Blair's kids serve in the armed forces? No. All the dying is done by the people these fops call 'thugs'.
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  384. Did you notice how he jumps out of his chair at the phrase 'western civilisation', Peter either sat on a pin or he's very excited by that concept.
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  385.  @turquoiseowl  New England. The Pilgrim Fathers?
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  386. Every terrible decision this country has made has been for and by the middle class. And it's always the working class that have to dig us out of the mess they create. Who kept the country going during Covid? It wasn't the school teachers or our 'first class' civil servants. Julie's right, we do have the numbers and the revolutionary intent to make changes. Not Communism but freedom.
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  387. It's about time Prince Charles and his like acknowledged that it's the proud working class that support the monarchy. The Establishment seem to hate it's connection with our great history.
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  388.  @TanyaJackson-no2rs  That was my whole point. What a mor-on.
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  389. I recall an interview with, I think, Simon Heffer who predicted Boris would be a disaster as PM based on his previous journalistic career. Turns out he was right.
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  390.  @MrBuffalo2  Articulating the problems is not "doing" something. In my workplace I have the opportunity to speak to people who are oblivious to 15 minute cities or trans-ing kids or the war in Ukraine, and pose questions, the point of which is to stimulate some kind of journey of discovery. To reach the red pill moment. That's what I'm doing, in the real world with real people, unfortunately somewhat institutionalised, but we try. When you're asking people to completely revise their worldview you don't get instant results.
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  391. I've heard several people on Talkradio espouse the same point. Particularly in regard to 'build back better'. (Deliberate use of lower case.)
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  392. And the example is the continent of Africa. There is no Wakanda there are no lost Black empires, and the Egyptians were not Black. There are certain truths all racial groups have to own and accept. Black community leaders would do well to change their focus, from victimhood, and other people being the problem, to the pursuit of academic achievement. No more excuse- making and no more white Liberal cover-ups.
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  393. You only have to read Orwell to realise that the British establishment was riddled with romantic Communist supporters from the 30s through to the 50s. The real value of Britain has always been the long suffering and fair minded British people who have fought and died to protect an establishment that largely despised and patronised them. All to keep the flag flying. And now the same establishment want them replaced by low calibre but pliant middle easterners.
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  394. The pressure must be placed to turf the fakes out of the party. The grass roots are much bluer than the elected.
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  395. So, the question is who are the people 'in charge' running this country for? None of this multiculturalism has been endorsed at the ballot box. As far as I can see a smallish group of Leftist media types and various figures behind the scenes seem to be calling the shots. We need to concentrate on those people, call them out and let's get back to being the country we used to be. And that may mean unhooking ourselves culturally and politically from the US where so much of this madness seems to come from.
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  396. English Circle Wrong. Blair and his government actively schemed to open the floodgates to European immigrants. Their quote was " to rub the Conservatives nose in diversity". They claimed to expect 5K immigrants from Europe, in their period of office it was closer to 500K. But I was more referring to things like the Multiculturalism, devolution disasters, the Hospital PFI initiatives that cost a fortune and a whole string of 'progressive' policies that have generally backfired. It's possible that some were well meaning mistakes, but mistakes they were. In the same inept manner that Corbyn was allowed to run for leader on the assumption he could never win. Look how that turned out. And Labour's ludicrous EU policy in the last election. Just one more in a string of cock ups.
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  397.  @OnlyElshafto  And you illustrate mine. A section of the Scottish people have no problem with the Barnett formula, which gives them the highest per capita subsidy in the UK. Bit when a Brit critices the hypocrisy of taking the money and then shitting all over the people who gave it to you, to deal with issues like helping the poor crofters on remote Scottish islands, then apparently, we're the ones fermenting hatred. We all know it's the other way round. The truth is, you and the people with your SNP mindset want to live like children, receiving your pocket money but resenting your reliance on our money. Result? Continuously play the weak victim card, convince yourself that something other people do to help your economy is a kind of oppression, akin to the Nazis in Russia. That ingratitude is the lifeblood of the SNP. You'd rather build a racist dogma out of that than look at the SNP's own disastrous record in public office.
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  398.  @NorfolkSceptic  I know. I have no faith in him or his cack handed government to sort out the numerous problems that face us.
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  399.  @alwayscensored6871  The US persuaded Ukraine to give back a big bunch of nuclear missiles the Soviets left there before it collapsed. In return Ukraine would get US military assistance. As it turned out Ukraine should have kept them to deter Russia. Why would you want to peddle half baked conspiracy theories? You're either ignorant, irresponsible or malicious. There's too much of this 'I've got the inside track on what's really going down' foolishness on the Internet. Little gossiping girls.
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