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Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "Inclusive language a ‘tactical move’ to change how we think about gender" video.
@After_Pasta Yes in different cultures and societies male and females take on certain gender roles. These roles to a certain extant are constructs and can be changed. It’s not the end of the world stuff.
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@tikkabrno And that’s pretty much what everyone saying and wants. Let a little girl play with a truck if she wants and if she wants to be a train driver when she grows up all well and good, and if her and her non binary/girlfriend/partner decide to adopt a child then let them.
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@happydaze7386 I appreciate your honesty, but to be honest with you I severely doubt and am highly skeptical of any sort of global conspiracy. I am extremely well read and am up on current affairs. I will research as you suggest but I wouldn’t be hopeful of any change.
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That did not take long to bring out the ignorant bigots.
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H H Someone declares they are non-binary, and I admit I am not sure what that means and they are immediately personally attacked. What science am I exactly denying? There maybe only two biological sexs but gender is a social construct and as such there are as many as we what.
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@MrDogsledder I appreciate it is a difficult concept for some, but if an individual perfers to be addressed or identify as a particular gender because they feel more comfortable with that label where is the harm in that if we truly live in a liberal society.
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Technically you correct, however when you insert gender and gender roles is does become a little more complicated than that. I’m sure your not implying that a she should be limited in her opportunities just because of their biological sex.
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@tikkabrno How would someone force a gender role on you? Like taking a caring role in a family situation or something like that. I’m not sure what you mean.
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I think your confusing sex with gender.
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@ivareskesner2019 Sex is a biological reality. Male/female. Gender on the other hand is a social construct and as such our language allows us to create as many different genders as we wish
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@ivareskesner2019 I understand you are frightened by change, but that is what is happening. Sex will in the future will not be as clear cut as it is now. Ex vivo pregnancy is a possibility and what happens then when women are freed entirely from that biological role. What happens to the male sex once they are no longer required to provide their semen. These things are not to far into the future.
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@MrDogsledder No I think Ivares summarised it pretty well, and while your comment was quite pithy it added little of intellectual value.
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@MrDogsledder Well you say that but your use of language "lefttard" meaning retard and "it" an attempt to dehumanise the subject indicates to me a terrified ignorance.
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@MrDogsledder Gender is a social construct. You may lack the ability to understand that, but that is the reality.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 No it’s a Middle English word with Latin origins relating to birth. Like most language it’s meaning has developed and changed over the centuries. Yes it has been used as a supposed less offensive word than sex in the 50s. So what! Your point being that the meaning of words change. No shit Sherlock. It has changed again.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 That is just factually incorrect. English has French, Germanic, and Norse speaking Vikings influences as well, it is not remotely based entirely on Latin. If you looked up a Oxford dictionary in 1965 and searched for the word gay and compared it to the current Oxford dictionary meaning are you seriously suggesting they would be the same. Words and meanings change as they are merely descriptors of language, and don’t get me wrong I am not very good at language as evidenced by my need to go back an edit this comment to add some grammar and fix some spelling mistakes. Add to the list of English words that their meaning has changed Nice Silly Awful Fizzle Wench Fathom Clue Myriad Naughty Eerie
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 Once again you completely missed the point. I never recommended or suggested that a word be changed only the fact that they do. Are you denying that the list of words provided have not changed from their original meaning, in which case back that up with evidence or accept you are wrong.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 You used the argument that a pineapple is always a pineapple and I completely destroyed that argument by proving a wench is no longer a wench. You made the claim, it wasn't my fault it was a fallacious argument and easily disproved.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 Also I'm not so sure it's clever to make a comment that was so easily disproved with 10 secs of research on the internet and then joke about it. I little humiliating actually.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Your last reply was just an incoherent series of words that was illogical. I made no claim about suicide rates in any community or encouraging anyone. Are you just making this up in your head? In English a wench was originally an old English word wenchal which referred to children of either sex it was shortened to wench for a female child and then was used to describe female servants and is now used pejoratively to be a wanton women. This isn't really hard to grasp.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 Happy to end it there.
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@heybird5660 Pithy, but lacking any real intellectual content, what gives you an impression of my nationality?
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@heybird5660 Pithy; terse and vigorously expressive. Which I think was a accurate description of your comment. You can understand why I asked about nationality as you mentioned American collage bullshit, I just found that to be a strange descriptor. You're not going to argue a pineapple is a pineapple are you.?
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Gender is a social construct that doesn’t relate to sex. ie women/females traditionally were nurses and men/males being doctors, but of course we now know that was nonsensical and either sex can perform either role. I don’t see why people are so terrified of changing gender roles. It doesn’t concern me.
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@FlaMan991 How can I explain it for you in simpler terms?
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@The National Yes and I don’t know why you would want to.
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You have confused biological sex with gender roles. Definitely only two sex’s but multiple different gender roles as they are just social constructs.
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@pale_saint You do understand that Marxist theory relates to the supposed struggle between the capital and working class and has absolutely nothing whatsoever in any way to do with sex or gender.
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@happydaze7386 Cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory, and should be treated as such.
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@happydaze7386 This is more of a extremist language issue. In most Western democracies that I am aware of you have competing political parties and some of those political parties are for more government than less and some have more socialist type policies, but they don’t even come close to Marxism/communism. You mentioned the build back better bill, is funding for insulin medication to Americans who can’t afford it really cultural Marxism. Is assisting low income families with child care payments really communism? Now you may legitimately disagree with those policies, but using extreme language like calling them cultural Marxism just makes you sound silly, and I’m sure you’re not.
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@happydaze7386 Sorry my mistake but you can understand why I confused build back better with build back better.
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@MrDogsledder Cultural Marxism is a term used by antisemitic far right conspiracy theorists, it is something I will not show any interest in. I have studied Marx and read some of his stuff. Marxism is a flawed political philosophy it doesn’t work. There are some elements of it that make sense however in practice it fails. To think otherwise is just delusional paranoia.
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Note to self you were spot on with your assessment.
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@MrDogsledder Do you have an original thought or is blindly copying others the best you have.
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Seriously. What can possibly be the harm in making all workplaces harm free. Why would want to work in an environment that isn’t safe for either your mother, wife, daughter, or granddaughter to be.
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@MrDogsledder That’s the most ridiculous thing I heard today. Marxism is the supposed struggle between the capital class and the working class. Please quote for me in Marx’s writings where he references gender in a coersive manner?
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@MrDogsledder I understand you are a critic of something you haven't got a clue about what your talking. Marx speaks to gender politics no argument there, quote me in which parts of his work does he recommend coercive Marxist gender propaganda or is this just something you read on tic tok or saw in an instagram post.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 Woaaw. Nice rant. I make no defence of Marxism and if you had read some of my other exchanges with Mr dogsledder this would have been obvious, but that’s not your fault. I have studied Marx and read some of his work. His philosophy is flawed and as you point out in practice has virtually universally failed. That doesn’t mean everything Marx wrote was wrong. Now to my exchange with Mrdogsledder, the use of the term cultural Marxism is a dog whistle for far right antisemitic conspiracy theories. That what I was calling out. Mrdogsledder is just repeating right wing bigoted talking points. I completely agree with you, people these days don’t seem to be as resilient as they use to be, they even seem terrified by the use of pronouns.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 You completely missed the point of my comment. I even explicitly said I make no, repeat, no defence of Marxism. I called a dog whistling bigot out on his understanding of Marxism. Marx did however write about gender politics but not in the sense you and I are discussing it. Finally I was just having a light hearted go at you with a bit of humour and you completely lose it and suggest with absolutely no evidence that people with non binary genders are all mentally ill. That claim is totally invalid nonsense unless you can back it up with scientific evidence.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 Once again for the fourth time I was not defending Marxism it is a flawed political philosophy, I specifically asked Mrdogsledder to provide a example of Marxist gender coerciveness. There maybe one I don't know of, or are aware of one, but the reason I did this was because mrdogsledder used the the term Cultural Marxism and that is a term used by right wing anti-semitics conspiracy theorists. He probably isn't one and he is probably using it as a talking point he picked up somewhere, so I called him out on it. This isn't that hard to follow I have explained fully a couple of times now. I not an anarchist and I have no idea where in your imagination you picked that up. I'm can be no prouder of the secular liberal social democracy I live in called Australia. I haven't been personally offended by anything you have said, some of your thinking is unscientific and outdated but that's OK it's just your opinion and that opinion is offensive. Again where in your imagination did you get the idea you had personally offended me.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 your last reply was just nonsensical rubbish, lacking any substance or having any point.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 I deleted no comment, but yes I think you are correct either the moderater of this channel or youtube seem to randomly remove stuff. It has happened to me on occasion, mostly because I don't resort to personal abuse and only argue on fact not opinion and people report the comment as they realise their argument is fallacious.
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@nextlevelrelaxed615 I just worked it out, because we are discussing on two separate and different comments my reply let's end it there is in relation to the other discussion thread. It confused me to, because I couldn't work out why such a inoffensive comment would be censored, but of course you just immediately jumped to the conclusion I had deleted it. I think that sums you up and we will leave it there.
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