Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "‘I do not want these people in our country’: Labor MP slams the release of 93 detainees" video.

  1. The government has no power on national security grounds to overturn a full bench decision by the High Court. A referendum can’t change the decision either.
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  2. The individual who committed the crime. That’s the way our justice system has worked for centuries.
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  3. No you can’t change the law. The High Court has determined the law that detained people indefinitely was unconstitutional. Writing a new law would still be unconstitutional. Game over. Also some of these people are stateless, where exactly do you suggest we return someone without a passport to?
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  4.  @lcox6468  Totally agree. However most if not all of the people have completed their sentences. Are you suggesting someone be gaoled for life for a non violent crime? In one specific case a murderer was sentenced to 20 years which he served. Now he is stateless, he has no passport. Where exactly do you think we can send him? What you are suggesting is illegal. You can’t forcibly deport someone who is stateless. If you do you have committed a crime. Which detention centre do you wish to be sent to for the rest of your life?
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  5. @lcox6468  You made a post on a semi public forum that was illogical and I merely pointed that. The law has been changed, you can't detain someone who can't be deported indefinitely. That's not bullying it's stating the obvious. You seem to think you can keep someone in gaol forever just because they are not an Australian citizen and accuse me of being the bully. That's comedy gold.
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  6. Many are stateless, ie they have no passport. Where do you suggest we return them to?
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  7.  @linmal2242  Somewhat humorous, however have you thought about the cost of the logistics to detain someone in Antartica? A very expensive joke.
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  8.  @matthewstewart5008  18 times, I think we get your point.
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  9.  @lovewithtruth  No that’s not the issue. We know where they were born. The issue is the Australian government can’t issue a foreign passport or provide foreign citizenship. It can’t forcibly send a stateless person anywhere.
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  10. What law should be applied?
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  11. Many are stateless ie they don’t have a passport. Where do you suggest we return someone who doesn’t have a passport.
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  12. @shadowbanned1999  Even for non violent offenders who have completed their sentences?
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  13. Oh yes it can. The High court determines if a law is constitutional. Indefinite detention under the Migration act is unlawful as per the constitution. Game over. As well, where exactly do you deport someone to if they don’t have a passport and are stateless.
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  14. So criminals who complete their sentences are released into the community every day of the week. Why is this a fault of the court? Are you suggesting every crime should attract a sentence of life imprisonment?
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  15. All these people you have been released have completed their sentences. Your statement in this regard is factually incorrect.
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  16.  @ohdearearthlings1879  He has not been convicted of any murder, so suggesting he start any sentence is patently absurd.
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  17.  @ohdearearthlings1879  And your suggestion would happen in the blink of an eye if the Malaysian government would take the death penalty of the table.
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  18.  @linmal2242  Except Australia has a long standing and bipartisan agreement not to deport people to countries under the threat of execution. Its called living up to our values, not accepting the values of an another country.
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  19. @edmurks236  Yes, however the Australian government has a responsibility to uphold the values of the Australian people.
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  20.  @edmurks236  In the case of this particular person, they haven't been convicted in a court of anything.
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  21. Many are stateless and don’t have a passport. Where exactly do you intend to deport them to?
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  22.  @ohdearearthlings1879 All of your suggestions have already been implemented. Which particular court determined Umar is guilty of anything?
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  23. @edmurks236  I understand your frustration, however the law says under the Migration Act 1958 we can't detain people indefinitely without judicial oversight, and in my opinion who in their right mind ever thought we could. I have no problem with a judge imprisoning a criminal for life at the end of a court trial. A public servant arbitrarily deciding that in an office in Canberra, no fucking way.
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  24. @ohdearearthlings1879  I don't necessarily agree with evil and stupidity being a part, however I do agree with your opinions on immigration, it is only going to get worse.
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  25. Many are stateless ie they don’t have a passport. Exactly where do you suggest we send them?
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  26.  @rogermckinnon5738  As previously pointed out, country of birth is legally meaningless. Some of these people a stateless and have no passport. They have for all practical purposes no country of birth.
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  27. And your evidence the court is corrupt is?
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  28. A joint seating of parliament could achieve this providing you could show misbehaviour. I’m not sure you quite understand how our system of government works here in Australia. Which totalitarian regime do you live in?
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