Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "Left’s ‘mass tantrum’ over Jacinta Price’s ‘uncomfortable truths’ at National Press Club" video.

How is asking for constitutional recognition wallowing in self pity. How is insisting through constant public scrutiny that indigenous disadvantage in health, education, home ownership, and LEB be considered self pity.
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In your opinion is the deaths of tens of thousands of indigenous aborigines from smallpox caused by British settlement the truth or just commonsense. Answer honestly if you can.
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@keithdemerle8404 Just a strawman comment. I didn’t suggest colonialism wasn’t inevitable, only that the effects of it (smallpox killed tens of thousands of aboriginals) were disastrous for indigenous people. Try and stay on topic.
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@russelltindale9428 I was asking gail9906 a question. The question is was British colonialism good for indigenous Australians? If you answer yes, then you consider the deaths of thousands of indigenous people that died as a direct result of British settlement (smallpox, an undisputed historical fact) was a good thing. Just answer honestly.
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And smallpox killed tens of thousands of indigenous people. In the Sydney area it was estimated to of halved the population. That really cut to the bone how wonderful colonialism was for the aboriginal.
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@keithdemerle8404 As per my first reply, my point was not about the the differences in colonial powers, and I agree with you entirely some were much worse than others. My point was on the effect of colonialism on the indigenous people of Australia. The concept that tens of thousands of deaths by smallpox was a good thing for Aboriginals (because that’s what Jacinta Price clearly stated) as a consequence of British settlement is abhorrent.
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@russelltindale9428 vast quantities of indigenous people completely disagree with you. Many still suffer the trauma, but I’m sure you know better.
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@blacksorrento4719 Factually incorrect. Your comment bears absolutely no resemblance to the accepted science relating to DNA or the genealogy of aboriginal Australians. You don’t even understand the meaning of nationhood. It is as if you are completely ignorant on the subject and just made shit up to suit your own opinion.
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@russelltindale9428 I previously linked you a copy of a document on inter-generational trauma. YouTube deleted it, so if you are serious a search on the internet reveals a multitude of reports, particularly on the inter-generational trauma caused by the stolen children generations. There is a Royal commission and medical evidence that supports this. Inter-generational trauma is a medically recognised condition. It applies to all people not just aboriginals. There are numerous instances from all around the globe.
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And smallpox killed tens of thousands of indigenous people. It was a direct effect of colonialism. That is the truth.
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@keithdemerle8404 And by they way I’m sure an aboriginal shot by an English bullet, dying words were “at least it wasn’t one of those nasty Spanish bullets.”
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@keithdemerle8404 Correct. So there in no relationship whatsoever between being inevitable which we both agree on and being good for the indigenous peoples which we my not. It is not my contention that colonialism was intrinsically bad, but to suggest that the truth is, that it was good is totally absurd. I can think of a thousand different ways a Neolithic culture could have been introduced into western culture without the need to kill tens of thousands of them. You seem to think that there was only one opinion on western expansionism during the enlightenment. You are wrong.
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@nedbaker4129 So for the simple minded, once again that wasn’t my point. Covid killed millions, AIDS killed millions, reading your inane comment killed billions of brain cells. It was an effect of colonialism. Colonialism introduced diseases to indigenous populations. That is my sole point.
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@keithdemerle8404 So add to the deaths by disease, the recorded mass killings of aboriginals (which continued into the 1980s with a mass poisoning event in Alice Springs) The forced apartheid as aboriginals were forced off their land into missions and the forced removal of children. Now let’s turn to an explicitly racist founding document that included a section that specifically excluded native aboriginals from being counted as Australians. All to a net good benefit by your standards. In virtually every measure of our society from education to health, home ownership to employment indigenous peoples are disadvantaged all to a net good benefit by your standards. Fortunately for me I don’t use or go by your standards.
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@coconuciferanuts339 During the 19th century many nations formalised treaties with indigenous peoples. The US, the British in New Zealand are two examples. I neither expected or suggested ideal outcomes only something approaching a fairer outcome for indigenous people in Australia. For instance being treated as equals in our constitution, but according to you the idea of aboriginals being treated as equals in 1900 is naive. It is a shame that inherent racism of 1900 still exists today.
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@keithdemerle8404 No where in any of my comments have I described indigenous people as victims and your assertion of this is just fallacious nonsense. All I did was state factual data, both historical and current. You simply prefer to ignore history and in typical neo liberal speak talk of individual agency, classic white male privilege attitude. Inter generational trauma is a medically recognised condition. You are again just factually wrong. Read this. https://www.communityservices.act.gov.au/children-and-families/adoption-kinship-and-foster-care/therapeutic-resources/understanding-intergenerational-trauma
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What exactly do you think the truth is? As if there is one truth. Is it the truth that smallpox introduced via colonialism killed tens of thousands of indigenous people. This is factually recorded undisputed history. Is your truth that was a good thing?
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