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Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "'Extent of the incompetence' in the American withdrawal 'is staggering'" video.

Trump signed the withdrawal agreement in Feb 20 and set the date of May 21 released 5000 Taliban fighters and reduced troop levels to 2500 by Jan 21, what exactly would have been different?
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@tinkertailor7385 The US government does not force its citizens to do anything. Trump signed a withdrawal document in Feb 20 setting a date of all US forces out by May 21, that gave everyone 14 months warning to get out. No US military equipment was left behind only that equipment sold or gifted to the Afgan military to fight the Taliban. 60 US service personal lost their lives 2017-20 (Trumps term) don't dishonour their service by ignoring their deaths.
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@wyattfamily8997 Trump set only two conditions. The Taliban not support any terrorist activity against the US and the Taliban consult with the Afgan government. Nowhere in the agreement does it mention equipment either sold or gifted to the Afgan government. Read the 4 page document on the State Department website.
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@joebidenshandler2149 No only a clown would give a one word reply to an incredibly complex situation and ignore the facts in blind demagoguery.
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Personally I think that pays a disservice to the 60 US service personal that were killed in Afghanistan 2017-20. You should honour their sacrifice not make a political point by highlighting the military deaths under Biden as tragic as they are.
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Trump consulted to a certain extent but mostly with the enemy and signed an agreement to withdraw all US and coalition in Feb 20 to be gone by May 21.
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@ade3628 Only someone who is stupid and who clearly has not read the four page agreement that set only two conditions of the enemy that they not support any terrorist attacks against the US and consult with the Afgan government in talks. Trump set the date for the withdrawal and reduced troop levels to only 2500. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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@ivancrowley9174 You have no understanding of the level of troops required to stop the Taliban moving. Trump had reduced US troop levels by Jan 21 to just 2500. That isn't enough to even secure the airport. I made no comment on Trump just presented the facts.
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@kingcosworth2643 No you are entirely wrong Trumps agreement with the Taliban including all contract support workers . No US equipment was left behind only that sold or gifted to the Afgan military. Trump set al the conditions for the withdrawal its all on the State Department website.
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@gsx7r No you are wrong the Taliban met both conditions they had talks with the Afgan government and as to supporting terrorists, well I don't believe they have held that up, but what is your solution 150000 troop commitment and another 20 years?
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@ade3628 This is the reply I would expect from someone who hasn't read the withdrawal document and has nothing of value to say.
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@quinn3974 Technically you are incorrect. Trump signed an ironclad agreement to withdraw. What is hard to understand about this?
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@joebidenshandler2149 I blame Trump for nothing, I just lay out the facts.
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@methylene5 Biden negotiated nothing the entire withdrawal agreement was done under the Trump administration in Feb 20. How is it being hypocritical to just lay out the facts. You are just spitballing about coulda shoulda woulda.
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@bluemouse5039 Most of what you said is obvious common knowledge, none of it remotely addresses the fact Trump signed the withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that even Trump boasted was unbreakable.
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@Quinston82 You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about the timeline and withdrawal was set by Trump, Biden merely delayed it by 4 months. Read the document yourself on the State Department website.
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@gsx7r That's exactly what's happening now, if somewhat chaoticly. No argument it hasn't been done well.
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@Quinston82 That is exactly what happened under Trump, he signed the withdrawal "surrender" your word, agreement with the Taliban. Read the document on the State Department website.
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@marynguyen2579 you are absolutely right. A coalition force of approx 20000 troops with air support indefinitely deployed would have allowed the Afgan government to stay in power.
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@Quinston82 You are just completely fixated on one side bad and the another good. It is plainly obvious to me Trump signed a cowardly deal to withdraw from Afghanistan and Biden did nothing other than delay it by 4 months. You are so blinded by Trump the demagogue your opinion is totally unbalanced.
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@quinn3974 If I confused you my apologies I was only talking about the withdrawal agreement Trump signed with the Taliban which Trump boasted himself was unable to be broken. He made this possible by reducing troop levels in Afghanistan by Jan 21 to 2500. Trump signed a surrender with the enemy, you can even read it, it is on the State Departments website. This is just historical fact.
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@methylene5 Your Gish galloping now. Read the four page withdrawal agreement signed under the Trump administration on the State Department website, apart from delaying the date by 4 months Biden has followed Trumps plan to the letter. One point though, and I know this is a little unfair as I have experience in planing and defending airfields and POE. The 2500 troops that were left in Afghanistan by Trump would not have even been sufficient to allow for the securing of one POE. Your understanding of military tactics and the conduct of the withdrawal is lacking knowledge.
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@marktyson3900 In repeated replies and comments I have admitted Trumps plan had been amended by 4 months, that in no way invalidates the rest of the withdrawal agreement has been followed. The Taliban even agreed to it.
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@Richard Walker Trumps withdrawal agreement gave the US 14 months to get out 11 months under Trump and now 8 months under Biden as the exit date was amended slightly. Why do you not hold Trump accountable for removing US citizens in his 11 months. As for the Blackhawks they are not US property that were sold to the Afgan government.
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@methylene5 So you have no idea what a troll is, I have remained respectful and and non abusive, only when someone has attacked me personally have I defended myself. You can't do a google searchignore facts resort personal abuse. This is the point I realise you have nothing. I'm not even sure you have any idea what your talking about.
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@Quinston82 I completely respect your opinion and I totally agree Biden could have committed 100000 troops with air support for the next 5 years and wind that down to 20000 over the next 20 years and the Taliban would be back where they were 15 years ago. Are you happy with an indefinite US military commitment to Afghanistan ?
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@dragonballguy6277 I have remained non abusive, respectfull and only presented fact based argumentation. If you read the replies I have been abused. I think I called one person opinion stupid after they called me stupid. This is a public forum if you don't like facts, that's not my problem.
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@Quinston82 Read the agreement on the State Department website and you will learn what you just said is mostly false.
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@Quinston82 This is all supposition. I just deal with the facts. Trumps withdrawal agreement in my opinion was taking orders from the Taliban
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@methylene5 Factually incorrect. Part one para A and B subsections 1) and 2) lay out explicitly the US and coalition troop withdrawal. What is not specific about that?
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@marynguyen2579 Sorry Mary 2000 troops wouldn't even be enough to guarantee their own safety let alone conduct any sort of security operations.
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Mark Navarro That is a very vague answer. Are you implying that a deal Trump signed he would go back on and either ignore or welch on, fair enough but that's your opinion of Trump, personally I think he would have keep his word and withdrawn.
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@marktyson3900 I made no defence of President Bidens performance I merely outlined the indisputable facts of the withdrawal agreement. In finally realising this you have gone off on a Gish gallop strawman argument that is just a logical fallacy and not relevant to the discussion.
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@dragonballguy6277 And there in a sentence you sum up the entire stupidity of the idiotic parochial state of political discourse in the US. Your opinion is the only one that's right because everyone else lacks common sense. "Facts are dumb" and you said that publicly. LMFAO.
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@methylene5 Yes I couldn't get the link to work either. To me that is quite specific it gives dates and troop number details what parts do you think Trump, Biden, or the Taliban failed? other than the timeline which I already agreed Biden had changed. Seems to me you are all Trump good all Biden bad. I have not defended Biden performance clearly things could have been done better in the last month or so I only highlighted the Trump administration culpability which it not on Trump alone Pompeo is just as much to blame as anyone.
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@methylene5 No this is only your opinion because you don't like facts that I have presented as they don't match you opinion so you go after the messenger. Trying to label me a troll is an ad hominem argument and a logical fallacy it just makes you look weak.
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@methylene5 No wrong again the Taliban did have talks with the Afgan government in 2020 and this year, probably disingenuous on the Talibans part in my opinion but they did happen, also the agreement to not support Al-Qaida was pretty thin in my opinion but Trump signed it anyway. Have Al-Qaida received support from the Taliban since Feb 20, Trump didn't think so and neither does the US government.
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@methylene5 For hours now I have repeatedly stated I am not defending Bidens performance which I agree has not been good, only highlighting the Trumps culpability and unfortunately in your demagoguery of Trump you are completely blind to his failings. You said I have presented no facts so I can only assume having read the withdrawal agreement you do not comprehend it. All you have provided is uninformed opinion which you are perfectly entitled to do and fallacious argumentation. I'll leave you with this Trump is a physical coward as he avoided the draft through a minor medical issue, and his is a moral coward having signed a withdrawal agreement with the enemy. Did he do good things while he was President absolutely, but he is not infallible.
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@marktyson3900 He changed the date by 4 months How in any way in the real world is that a completely new deal, but if that's what you think go ahead. Trump even boasted publicly at a rally that not even the Democrats could break his deal. What is hard to understand here. I understand your embarrassment at me pointing out all the flaws in the structure of your argumentation. If I made a mistake by not answering your questions well that's just a mistake. What is disingenuous is accusing me of being dishonest because you have realised your argument is factually wrong. Biden performance or lack of it is irrelevant to Trumps culpability. To put it simply to argue Bidens border policy is unsatisfactory even if we both agree is nonsensical to Trumps withdrawal policy from Afghanistan. Let's both agree Biden is incompetent, great, but it is a non sequitur in a discussion about Trumps culpability in the withdrawal from Afghanistan. You have created your own world where Trump is infallible.
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@Quinston82 Trump boasted at his rallies that his deal was unbreakable all Biden was able to do was amend the date by 4 months. All you have to do is read the four page agreement Trump signed in Feb 20 for the withdrawal of US and coalition troops out of Afghanistan by May 21. He made the deal unbreakable by withdraw all but 2500 troops and releasing 5000 Taliban from prisons. Don't take my word for it read it yourself. Biden sold me nothing, read the document it is on the State Department website.
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@marktyson3900 Your understanding of contract law is reasonable if not a little simplistic but we are talking about high level international diplomatic relations with real world consequences and your opinion of them is just that. It is not my opinion that the deal Trump made was unbreakable that is his own words. I make no criticism of Trumps withdrawal agreement I just stated the facts of it. It is you that is trapped in Trump demagoguery.
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@quinn3974 A fallacious argument from beginning to end strawman fallacy one after the other. You have however left the most disgraceful comment to the end. To ignore the 60 US service personal killed in Afghanistan 2017-20 is to dishonour their service and cheapen their sacrifice, just so you can make a cheap political point. Utterly disgusting on your part and totally contemptible. What a grub like thing to say.
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@quinn3974 Just nonsensical rubbish piled on top of meaningless white noise. I am not the lest concerned about your childish attempts at ridicule it just shows once again to anyone else reading these comments the shear vacuousness of your argument. You are even oblivious to shear stupidity of your argument and were incapable of structuring a coherent one so you just go down the tired old route of attempting abuse and what the hell has gas prices got to do with a withdrawal agreement from Afghanistan, don't bother answering that, the answer is nothing what so ever.
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@quinn3974 As a side note the Supreme Court ruled against Trump on several occasions, regarding his financial records, blocked his attempts to rescinding immigration programs, and Louisiana abortion laws that his admInistation defended, and repeated alleged 2020 voting irregularities. Not that any of this means anything other than your point about the Supreme Court reigning Biden in is as meaningless.
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@quinn3974 OK so now we are discussing the tactics of withdrawing or evacuation as you describe it which I tend to agree with is a more accurate description of what is now happening. As I mentioned previously I have some experience in military matters and the withdrawal is one of these most dangerous type of operations you can conduct, as as you draw down your forces become more and more venerable. The actual withdrawal by US forces out of Bagram was brilliantly and skilfully executed as no one had a clue they were gone till they announced it. I am not surprised that people who lack knowledge of military tactics don't understand this. I totally agree this is a defeat not only for the US but the West in general and has definitely emboldened terrorists all over the world. It is just my opinion but I don't think we should have left at all, I would have left 20000 troops with air support and kept the Taliban out of power, but President Trump chose to withdraw all US troops and he was the boss. Hopefully drone missions will continue to extract some revenge.
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@daphnedorsey3282 Just one long unbalanced rant of political opinion, with not a single fact expressed that is so pointless and lacking content in the extreme as to be laughable.
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@ChristopherSaindon I made no defence of Biden, merely stated facts about the withdrawal agreement that the Trump administration signed with the Taliban. It is Trumpists who have taken this to be criticism. Biden is far from being a good President but if that is all you have by way of disputing my point it is just a fallacious argument.
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@jjrants2359 I have only stated independently verified data that has been researched from multiple different sources. Most of the data comes straight from the Trump administration itself. All you have is a random and not particularly clever slur.
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@tomderri2744 I am not trying to convince anyone of anything and have explained ad nauseam I make no defence of Bidens actions. With undisputed data I have merely highlighted the Trumps administration culpability in the withdrawal agreement. This is not hard to understand.
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@methylene5 What you just said literally makes no sense. Trump had reduced Troop levels to 2500 by Jan 21. That isn't even enough to defend themselves let alone provide security operations for two airfields. You are living in la la land. Trump made the deal for the withdrawal with the enemy. You are in complete denial.
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@methylene5 You have presented no data or evidence whatsoever, only uniformed opinion. I have quoted in detail from the Trump withdrawal agreement. You have no evidence that a Trump administration would have conducted the withdrawal from a tactical level any differently only your opinion .
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@methylene5 So Trump releasing Taliban fighters from detention who led the Taliban into Kabul bears no responsibility?
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@methylene5 So Trump negotiating that all US and coalition contract support for the maintenance and repair of the Afgan Military aircraft be removed by May 21 was a good idea?
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@tomderri2744 I understand that's your opinion but it bears no relation to the facts and you have no evidence of your opinion. Even the mildest of understanding of Islamic terrorism like that conducted by ISIK at the airport would show time and time again they have used Ramadan to attack. Have you any actual facts because I just blew that opinion out of the water.
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@tomderri2744 I am not blame shifting, I have repeatedly accepted the Bidens administration fault in the process, it is you in your Trump demagoguery that can't accept that he might be the slightest fallible.
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@tomderri2744 There is even research and data that suggests Islamic terrorism increases during Ramadan so why would withdrawing during this period be a good idea?
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@methylene5 I thanked you your posting parts of the agreement as I had explained the difficulty in posting the link something you commented on yourself. If you are unable to link cause to effect in the agreement then there is nothing more I can say. If you are unable to understand that by reducing troop levels to an unsustainable level where they are unable to conduct security operations set the scence for what eventuated then you are just being deliberately obtuse.
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@methylene5 If you blame Biden for 13 deaths, do you blame Trump for the 60 US service personnel killed 2017-20?
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@methylene5 I'm not going to go back through all my comments for you or post the details of my 35 year military career. The withdrawal is complete now and there tragically has been casualties. All US equipment has been destroyed beyond repair. Unfortunately Afgan military equipment has been captured by the Taliban which is not good, however most of it is small arms virtually every serviceable aircraft was flown to Turkmenistan. If you think the planning for any military withdrawal goes perfectly then once again your living in la la land.
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@methylene5 classic avoidance. You blame Biden for 13 deaths and conveniently ignore the deaths under Trump, and yes all President's must accept a certain level of responsibility for decisions made under their presidency. Once again your data has only shown you are unable to interpret it correctly.
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@methylene5 2500 troops in Jan 21 is barely enough to even to defend Bagram and would not be able to conduct any type of security operations. Prior to Trump troop levels were down to approx 10000 which allowed a certain amount of manoeuvre but at 2500 all you can do is defend the perimeter.
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@methylene5 Trump had almost 12 months to get all US citizens out from the signing the deal till the end of his Presidency how many did he get out. Zero. He left 5500 behind Biden got 5200 out.
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@methylene5 Seriously in your planning you would rely on the Afgan Army to secure your withdrawal, now your really are being obtuse. Also is your vocabulary so weak you regularly use my language, seems fairly childish.
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@methylene5 I haven't left anything out I have deliberately keep exchanges to one or two points to make it easier to discuss. It seems your only argument is a continuous attempt to discredit me personally because you have no actual argument to the facts I have continuous quoted.
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@methylene5 So I point out that all your argument consists of is trying to discredit me personally and then in your reply that's exactly what you do. My poor spelling and grammar is irrelevant to the argument and then you finish off with an attempt at personal abuse. Is that all you have?
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@methylene5 Trump had fours years to get out, but that's not what happened he signed a withdrawal agreement in Feb 20 to be out by May 21 that is 14 months and yet although he reduced troop levels to 2500 he made no attempt to reduce the 5500 US citizens. Yes Obama had eight years and Bush before him who did withdraw most US forces at one stage to fight in Iraq only to have to send them back. If your implying that 20 years and five President's US foreign policy in Afghanistan has been a shambles you won't get an argument from me.
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@methylene5 Apart from where I called ADE stupid as he previously called me stupid which I agree was unnecessary I stand by all those responses as they describe the argument not the person and you are unable to tell the difference. You continue to attempt to discredit me personally, where I have only pointed out the absurdity of your and others argument. LMFAO that you accuse me of being the snowflake, but thanks for the summary of all those replies of mine. Particularly the one's to you where I pointed out the obvious fallacies.
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@methylene5 Please just state one fact based argument.
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@methylene5 Nice try. Being critical of US foreign policy in Afghanistan doesn't mean I agree with the withdrawal. The US and coalition forces of approx 20000 with air support could have been maintained for another twenty years and the Taliban would still be in the mountains and Pakistan.
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@methylene5 If you had read the first paragraph of that definition it admitted it was difficult to determine a troll and a genuine person. You were just annoyed I had pointed out the fallacies in your comments.
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@methylene5 They both do. They both surrendered to the enemy. Either of them could have chosen to stay and fight. Also add all the coalition members as well.
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@methylene5 It is only my opinion based on how i see the geo political situation but I think the West because the US shouldn't bear the burden alone should have maintained a force large enough ( approx 20000) in Afghanistan f for as long as required. I understand that's not the popular opinion in the US and Trump knew this so did Biden that's why they got out. I think it was cowardly not just the US but everyone the Brits, French, Australians they all cowardly ran away. That amount of troops would have keep the Taliban at bay. I maybe would have upped it only China is a concern and the US has to be careful so as the be able to commit to the Western Pacific. It's a balancing act. Biden should have significantly increased troop levels for the withdrawal and should have insisted on better Intel analysis of the Afgan military, but Trump was guilty of this as well. I think everyone expected the Afgan government not to last but didn't expect the military to fall over so quickly. I could go into detail on what we got wrong in 20 years but what's the point. We ran away like a bunch of loser cowards.
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@tomderri2744 Read the four page withdrawal agreement on the State department website. Every date, troop level reduction, or detainee release is there which is the data I have presented I have offered no opinion. Terrorists activity during Ramadan is just common public knowledge you can find the data in 2 minutes with a Google search same ad I did. You offered the opposite opinion with no data or references either and have the chutzpah to have a go at me. Just for interest what value do you believe Trump would have got withdrawing during Ramadan?
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@methylene5 The US government has declared the withdrawal complete. Once again this is not my opinion it has been stated by government officials publicly. You may not think so but that is your opinion.
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@tomderri2744 For whatever reason youtube is deleting any links posted on the comments. I sent you two links and both have been deleted. As I said do a google search terrorism and Ramadan there are several to choose from, some indicate a minor increase others none, but all acknowledge terrorist activity happens during Ramadan.
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Trump signed a withdrawal agreement with the enemy in Feb 21, he then released 5000 Taliban from gaols reduced US troop levels from 16000 to 2500 by Jan 21, so "woke" Trump led the way.
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@brianterence3211 Happy for all spelling and grammatical errors to be pointed out so I can edit them. Thanks.
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@kevinx9225 I made no comment about President Bidens popularity or lack of. Actually Bidens approval rating last time I read something was -4 so not so good, that has nothing to do with facts, Biden killed no deal he merely amended Trumps withdrawal date by 4 months.
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@forevertoons9022 My nationality is irrelevant to the facts. I made no opinion of Trumps performance only outlined exactly what he and his administration did. This is just common public knowledge it has no opinion element at all. President Trump did a deal the American people wanted. Why have you construed this into a political issue. Are you suggesting Trump didn't sign the withdrawal deal?
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