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Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "David Littleproud clashes with Sky News host over Dutton’s calls for visa ban" video.
Could you please reference the data source for your claim of 75% support for Hamas. Thanks.
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@JudoChop1 There is no security risk giving a temporary visa either tourist or refugee neither of which grants any sort of permanent residency to women and children who are under constant threat of death.
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@VK6AB- So the survey you refer to is far more detailed and nuanced than the simple headline support for the Oct 7 attacks. Yes the attacks did garner that level of support however that it not a figure of overall support for Hamas but for that specific action. The same report you cite also only has support for Hamas to control Gaza at 38% Gazians it is higher if you include the West Bank. The exact survey you quote, so it's your data not mine also has only 7% of Gazians admitting Hamas has committed any atrocities against Israelis. So if you had taken the time to actually read the entire survey you would understand why support for Oct 7 is so high amongst Palestinians. All you did was read a headline and gobbled it up because it agreed with your preconceived bias.
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@RULE3O3 Just the normal vacuous idiocy from you as usual. In a serious discussion a minimum baseline needs to be established which VK6AB kindly provided. Any data you provided was researched from your upper colon.
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@aussiedonaldduck2854 As disgusting an act as that was, no 4 year old child in Gaza can be held responsible for an act 23 years ago.
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@hishers251 The published survey you refer to is far more detailed and nuanced than the simple headline support for the Oct 7 attacks. Yes, the attacks did garner that level of support however that it not a figure of overall support for Hamas but for that specific action. The same report you cite also only has support for Hamas to control Gaza at 38% Gazians it is higher if you include the West Bank. The exact survey you quote, so it's your data not mine, also has only 7% of Gazians admitting Hamas has committed any atrocities against Israelis. So, if you had taken the time to actually read the entire survey, you would understand why support for Oct 7 is so high amongst Palestinians. All you did was read a headline and gobble it up because it agreed with your preconceived bias.
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@chrisg8321 As pointed out twice now, the evidence quoted is selective data from a detailed survey and is deliberately misleading. I had already researched this topic and needed to know what data these people were referring to. If you want to merely believe Hamas and Israeli propaganda then go right ahead, stay stupid.
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@NeverAgain316 Yes no doubt some will. I read an article in the Australian last week about a Palestinian woman who had been granted refugee status and intended to apply for residency for herself and her 4 kids. She is a neurosurgeon, perhaps we can do with doctor or two. I need those 4 kids to get jobs and pay tax's to pay for my superannuation.
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@chrisg8321 It was misleading information, but I'm sure you and your mates (the Train family) have far more fun to have with your conspiracy theories.
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@chrisg8321 I read the detailed survey that was quoted as evidence. I used the exact data they quoted from the survey they quoted. I read the survey they quoted as evidence. The Dec 90 survey by the PCPSR. It states in black and white support for Hamas in Gaza is at 38%. I didn’t disagree with the claim of 75% support for the Oct 7 attacks because as stated the same survey showed 93% of Palestinians don’t believe any atrocities were committed in those attacks. What are you not understanding?
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@chrisg8321 Bit of a Strawman from you. I reacted to one source of data only. That being the PCPSR survey which is a consistent and reliable source of survey data. Nobody provided any other reference data. I ignore any garbage from rule303 as I have on numerous times attempted to engage with him in a respectful manner for him to just respond with personal insults.
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@chrisg8321 No you are factually wrong. I received one credible data source, the PCPSR survey. I have explained in detail why the data presented in that survey was misleading. The same survey has support for Hamas in Gaza at only 38%. I am not wrong and neither was the original comment, but it was misleading because it related to one specific Hamas action not general overall support for Hamas. The PCPSR is a detailed survey a they conduct them regularly. I’m not sure you understand nuance.
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@chrisg8321 Read the Dec 23 PCPSR survey yourself. It clearly states support for Hamas in the survey to the question of who Palestinians in Gaza want governing them was only 38% for Hamas. You are obviously unable to comprehend English.
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@chrisg8321 I quoted exactly the same survey PCPSR as the original comment. You need to go and spend time with your mates the Trains.
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@chrisg8321 You reference nothing. You could be the source of that data for all I know.
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@chrisg8321 once again all the data I quoted is from the PCPSR survey 90 as referenced in this thread. Read the survey. You have referenced nothing and as far as I know just made quotes up. I made explicit references to one piece of data only, that was misleading. Once again read the PCPSR 90 survey.
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@chrisg8321 straight from the PCPSR 90 survey “38% of Gazans prefer Hamas to remain in control of the Gaza Strip after the war.”
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@chrisg8321 Here is more data that explains why Palestinians support Hamas We asked respondents to speculate about Hamas’ reasons for waging its October the 7th offensive: a response to attacks on al Aqsa and to release prisoners as Hamas claimed or an Iranian plot to thwart Arab normalization with Israel. The overwhelming majority (81%; 89% in the West Bank and 69% in the Gaza Strip) said it was a “response to settler attacks on Al-Aqsa Mosque and on Palestinian citizens and for the release of prisoners from Israeli prisons;” while only 14% (5% in the West Bank and 27% in the Gaza Strip) thought it was an Iranian plot. We asked the respondents what they thought of Hamas’ decision to launch the October the 7th offensive given its outcome so far, a vast majority (72%) said it was a correct decision and 22% (12% in the West Bank and 37% in the Gaza Strip) said it was incorrect. The belief that Hamas' decision was right is higher in the West Bank (82%) compared to the Gaza Strip (57%), among men (75%) compared to women (69%), among the religious and the somewhat religious (76% and 71% respectively) compared to the non-religious (42%). It also increases among supporters of Hamas (92%) compared to supporters of Fateh and other forces (55% and 45% respectively). The reason why support for the Oct 7 attacks is high is because they believe it was justified for the reasons above. I’m not saying I agree with this only that it is a fact and a result of misinformation of which you are contributing to.
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@MikeNEVILLE-xf4bc If only you had read the rest of the other comments. You would have realised how utterly inane your comments have been.
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@Gungho1a No factually incorrect. Approximately 2500 Palestinians that have been granted visas to Australia are still in Gaza. No Palestinians in Egypt are being considered for Australia visas. You are misinformed or deliberately being disingenuous.
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@chrisg8321 Because you are not understanding the data. The survey clearly shows that Palestinians support violence because they believe Israel started it. It is good to see you finally read the entire survey. Now you just need to understand it.
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@chrisg8321 You may very well have been quoting it however as I pointed out you never referenced what you were quoting. There is a wealth of data in that survey of which you selectively quoted because it agrees with your preconceived bias. I agree with you nobody should receive a permanent visa to Australia without a security check/clearance.
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@chrisg8321 In multiple replies I referenced the PCPSR survey 90.
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@chrisg8321 No I qualified the 38% with words to effect of support or to govern and then repeatedly urged you to read the survey.
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@chrisg8321 No. I have explained in previous posts and in detail the nuances involved in the PCPSR survey.
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