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Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "Pandemic in United States may be taking a turn" video.
@kennethjohnson2864 And what? That is just a meaningless statistic. Wait on a sec, that doesn't even make sense. Where did you get that data. In 2020 alone 3.3 million Americans died, that's approx 9000 a day just in the US.
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@After_Pasta I made no argument to the actions/reactions in relation to Covid. Yes any improvement to the health and medical facilities anywhere in the world is a good thing. I quoted US data because that was where the error was made. In correcting that error and pointing out that the deaths from Covid in 2020 contributed to a reduction in US lifespan this isn’t opinion or argument it is just a indisputable fact that hasn’t happened in the US in 75 years. That’s not an overreaction it is just stating the facts.
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@After_Pasta I'm not comparing the death rate to WWII. I was comparing the US death rate from 2019 to 2020. What I said was the last time the US life expectancy dropped was during WWII. That is not gaslighting statistics it is putting the data into context.
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No your data is partially wrong, but you right about heart disease. In 2020 deaths from Covid was the third highest. Total deaths 3358814 Heart disease 690882 Cancer 598932 Covid 345232 Unintentional injuries ( that includes car accidents and drug OD) 192176 Stroke 159050 In fact the extra deaths in the US from Covid have contributed to the life expectancy of all Americans to drop on average 1.5 years. That has not happened since WWII. Are you not in the least bit interested in reducing the suffering of your fellow Americans?
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@After_Pasta Well the list does go on but my point was made. Influenza and pneumonia in 2020 accounted for 53495 deaths and was the 9th leading cause of death. I just didn’t think it was necessary to add.
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@theknowall2232 You are misunderstanding comorbidity. If you are obese you are more likely if you get Covid to have severe symptoms, so what. Covid still caused the illness. If your 84 if you get Covid you are more likely to die, so what are you saying being 84 killed them, no Covid did.
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@After_Pasta Yes data collection is an issue, however almost universally world wide medical authorities estimate the virus has been under reported.
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@namjamlewis1844 All I did was point out a minor error in your data and you take like some personal insult. The data was collected by the National Center for health statistics and is common public knowledge and accessible to all. As explained the extra deaths caused by Covid in 2020 caused a 15.9% age adjusted increase in deaths from 2019. Interestingly suicide deaths decreased 5.6% over the same period.
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@After_Pasta I completely agree you must look at the data in context, and in certain countries where their hospital and medical systems were overcome no doubt more people died unnecessarily from non Covid related illness’s. I haven’t researched global death rates but I’m sure off the top of my head malaria for instance killed more people in 2020 than Covid. The point remains in many countries the US included it contributed to a reduction in life expectancy and that is not a good thing.
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@After_Pasta I’m not sure that’s a coherent argument. Are you suggesting because death is inevitable that we as a species should take no measures to increase the quality and length of life. Do you drive with the traffic? Have you ever been to a doctor? When fixing your electric toaster do you unplug it from the power first?
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@After_Pasta Hold on a minute here. First I am gaslighting no one. I made a minor correction to some factual incorrect data. I then provided independent referenced data that clearly proves the extra deaths from Covid in the US has contributed to a reduction in the average life span and this is not a common happening as pointed out this hasn’t happened since WWII. I make no comment on your lack of concern for the health and well being of Americans that’s your right.
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@After_Pasta What argument? I made no argument. I provided some independent data to correct an error of fact in someone else’s claim.
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aMTBer Your data is incorrect it is currently approx 9000 but that includes 2000 odd covid deaths so the normal rate is more like 7000 including flu. Reference The US Center for Health statistics.
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@chrisrauschning7376 Global fertility rates have been falling for the last 50 years and currently sit at 2.5. All indicators point to it decreasing further and hitting 2.1 before the end of this century at which point you will most definitely get your wish.
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@After_Pasta But you have the independent data explained and put into context before you. And despite obesity rates increasing in the US over the last 30 years it has had no effect on life expectancy because as Americans got fatter they kept living longer, until the year Covid hit and then it dropped and you correlate obesity to that drop. I’m sorry but not wishing to be unkind but that is just nonsensical illogical thinking. How do you normally determine what is in your imagination and what is real? NB, I just came across your interchange with Brian C and clearly you are capable of logical thinking and good on you for sticking to Brain C but it make it much harder to fathom why you can't understand the data I presented about covid deaths. It perplexes me.
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