Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "You 'stand one way or the other' on religious freedom" video.

Why? Where is that written down in law? Define sexual deviance.
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I don’t recognise the Christian bible as an authority on anything. Where do we go from here.
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@grannyannie6744 Thankyou, but I have no belief in a god. Do not take any notice of the Christian bible, and manage to live a objectively moral life with absolutely no interference from you.
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@grannyannie6744 Apart from secular laws stopping you from stoning a child to death for being disobedient or taking someone as your slave, or putting a homosexual to death what exactly am I stopping you from doing? What practice of faith am I stopping ?
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@grannyannie6744 That is the most outrageous deflection/obfuscation I have read on this topic so far. Pastor Paul Furlong was arrested and spent three weeks in gaol for breaching a perfectly legal health order. It had absolutely nothing to do with reading the Christian bible. Your comment was a straight out lie.
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@grannyannie6744 Nice back track. Now specificly quote the source of your claim or I simply can't believe you. Any literature that calls for the killing of someone simply because of thier sexuality or advocates for slavery deserves to be described as hate speech.
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@grannyannie6744 Go back and read the comments. I never said I haven't read it I said I don't recognise it's authority or authenticity. Don't get so caught up in trying to find a gotcha moment, it is immature, I'm just trying to have a respectful conversation.
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@grannyannie6744 You have no idea about your own religion. There are no original texts that we know of existing. We assume one existed once, but we have no evidence of such. Please if you think there is site the biblical scholar and their work and then I will believe you. I can find no evidence of your earlier claim and as such dismiss it as your imagination. Is that all you have? because I have more evidence of a family of pixies living up in the back corner of my yard.
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@grannyannie6744 No, an argument has been made by modern philosophy that an objective morality does in fact exist. Similar to gravity in concept it is something we are yet to discover. Again you need to read more widely.
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@grannyannie6744 Homo-sapiens have been patnering up (with no evidence of religious ceremony) and forming family groups for over 250000 years and we have archaeological evidence of this. Have you any idea of human history and how we developed?
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@grannyannie6744 Caught in your own lie you accuse me of being dishonest. You are not showing to many of your own supposed Christian morals. Now try from the beginning and this time try to be open and honest.
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@grannyannie6744 Archaeological and DNA evidence proves we formed small family groups with no assistance from God or a bible it was how we evolved.
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@grannyannie6744 whoa, that is a illogical step. Ceremonial burial in no way imply a belief in a god/gods.
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@grannyannie6744 Fair enough, on the points from your last comment we agree on many of them. There is a perfectly understandable theory as to why we evolved a belief in gods/god that all has to do with survival. It doesn't prove there is a god, but explains why we believed in gods. Fortunately we are past that need in our development much like a child no longer uses a nappy, as it gets older it learns to use a toilet.
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@grannyannie6744 Is is sad you have such a low opinion of people. We as a western society have progressed extraordinary faster in the last 200 years as the secular philosophy of the enlightenment allowed science to flourish and archaic religious practices to fade. I’m sure you are in favour of slavery, execution for blasphemy, stoning children to death for being disobedient all religious practices from the past when things were better by your opinion. Just a terrible sad depressing view of humanity from you.
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@grannyannie6744 No completely wrong on all counts. Slavery existed 1800 years after the new testament and was widely practice by Jews and Christians. Your assertions are not based on any historical fact. You are simply tying to worm your way out of what is called cognitive dissonance. You are clearly a good person who knows right from wrong and you need to justify a immoral teaching of God with what we now know was immoral instructions in a bible that according to Christians is infallible but obviously is.
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@grannyannie6744 The words of Jesus Christ. Seriously. Women couldn't even vote in Switzerland till the mid 70s. Blasphemy laws saw people executed 1000 years after any supposed Jesus character. I mean c'mon really this is the best you have.
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@grannyannie6744 You have thrown a lot out there. So, firstly your personal details are of no interest to me and irrelevant in a discussion about religious freedom, which I maintain you have, as you have yet to provide any evidence of the contrary. The one incident you described I proved false. You are free to worship whoever you want in any manner, within the bounds of the secular law of the state, ie no stoning to death of children for being disobedient. Unbelievably you defended slavery, with all manner of apologist excuses for bible believing Christians. It was not Christians who ended slavery in the US it was a civil war that ended it, however the racism continued. Childcare has nothing to do with religious freedom and I have no idea why it was raised, but on a side note as you have, psychologists speak positively of the socialisation children gain in learning to interact with other children, it isn’t the hellhole picture you painted, but I am willing to agree some childcare centres may be performing below community expectations. Women have exactly the same rights as men no less no more. To suggest otherwise flys in the face of all logic. You are even exercising those rights now in this discussion, a right your Christian religion denied women for 2000 years, and in some areas still does. Since the enlightenment and the flourishing of science, our life expectancy has increased, we are healthier, literacy has increased, in almost every measure our standard of living has improved, we discuss on platforms that 50 years ago could not have been imagined. I understand you don’t think they are improvements but the vast majority of people on the planet do. Lastly what questions have I not answered? You still haven’t shown me any lack of religious freedom on your part, other than it’s illegal to own a slave any longer. What is an argument bigot?
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@grannyannie6744 Why did you delete your comment about me not being a good man? I have remained respectful and have only sort to show your comments to be fallacious in nature I have not attacked you personally. Also what do you find creepy about me protecting the rights of individuals, particularly your right to religious belief.
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@grannyannie6744 I appreciate your commitment to the education of young children, it is admired. So your problem has nothing to do with religious freedom but your belief that sex and gender is binary, through your own personal experience. This is a classic example of anecdotal fallacious argument. My intellectually disabled (1p36 deletion syndrome) daughter entered the Catholic primary school system which very soon found itself incapable of managing her disability and recommended she move to an IO class at a public school. She received wonderful care and education there and then at a public high school where she again was treated with great care and with the skills she learnt in school was able to enter the workforce, be it in a supported business. So my personal experience completely nullifies yours. My experience of the Catholic education system was it was worse than useless. All the science proves beyond doubt that gender dysphoria is a real thing. It is recognised by the American Psychiatric Association, is there something you know that they don't? I didn't just use the example of women being treated equally, I also mentioned several other advances in society in the last 50 years. Equal pay for work, and a whole host of jobs that women were not considered capable of are now routinely filled by women. I understand you don't consider this an improvement but almost universally women do. No Bill was passed by the parliament. So religious schools are still able to discriminate against unmarried women, divorcees and LGBTQI students. So what is your problem. You have religious freedom and you can discriminate in your schools. I'm not even sure you know.
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@tilapiadave3234 Well I actually asked Louise but yeah sure provide to me your idea of sexual deviance. Don't bother with anything that is illegal under Australian law, that I understand.
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@tilapiadave3234 Called your bluff. I already stated clearly, what is illegal under Australian secular law. Nobody gives a toss what you personally condone or not condone as long as you abide with the secular law. What you think personally is unimportant, but act on those illegal thoughts and you will be arrested, trialled, and sent to goal under the secular law of the state. If you don’t like it find a religious fundamentalist community of your own.
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