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Comments by "" (@pwillis1589) on "‘Don’t march, don’t protest’: Alan Jones calls for Australians in lockdown to obey the law" video.
Yep, people will get vaccinated, the disease will recede, and we will all go back to our normal lives, except the conspiracy theorists who will move on to whatever wild theory they come up with next.
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Nice try but you are wrong, there is no right in the Australian constitution at all to assembly, what you have referred to mistakenly is our signing and agreeing to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and the part you left out is the restrictions that can be prescribed by law in the interests of public health that are included in the article. So I'm not sure what you are talking about when you said "taken back" when it never existed in the first place. Happy to be fact checked here, just send me the reference or section in the constitution.
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Do you mean clinically significant? In which case inaccuracies in PCR tests are fully understood by medical and health authorities they have no illusion on there effectiveness. PCR testing is a blunt tool that gives authorities a very rough guide to infections in the community and they know this, it is common knowledge. Why would Alan do a piece on something the government and the community already know? Seems pretty silly to me.
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@charmedaustralia6617 You do understanding we have been vaccinating people successfully since the late 18th century and there is nothing experimental about the Multiple coronavirus vaccines that have been approved by multipule agencies after extensive successful human trials. All this information is in the public domain. The long term effects of the smallpox vaccine is, it is no longer a thing. Whooping cough has been eliminated in communities where vaccines have achieved herd immunity. Have you ever seen a six month old baby with whooping cough? I could go on, but to your final point, no vaccine is 100% effective and no medical professional has ever suggested that. You really need to better inform yourself on the science of vaccinations.
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@angelmaverick5701 Pharmaceutical companies conducted numerous extensive double-blind randomised placebo-controlled clinical trials on humans in 2020. The reason these were able to conducted so quickly were two factors one the virus is very contagious and two heaps of people volunteered. Once they had a safe vaccines they had to be submitted to the various drug administrations around the world in various countries before approval is given for use. Yes mRNA technology is new, so what? Don't you use a cell phone or fly in a plane or drive a car, or use electricity? They were all just invented once.
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@angelmaverick5701 I think you are confusing RNA with DNA. mRNA vaccines having nothing to do with your DNA they make proteins that your immune system works out is bad. I'm not a bio chemist, but I do trust the science.
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@simonlevett4776 Certainly advances in all areas due to the industrial revolution as you mentioned have contributed to average lifespans increasing and once again a major contributor to that was advances in medical technology and it is just a plain statistical fact that countries with high levels vaccination have less deaths per 100000. Let's just look at measles in the US which up until the early sixties averaged approx 350 deaths per 100000 then a vaccine was widely distributed and by the late sixties was down to 20 and is now virtually zero. That reduction in deaths is wholly due to vaccination. Australia currently vaccinates against something like 20 diseases and yes smallpox generally was declining however is some locations was still a serious problem and a vaccine eliminated it. It is estimated that eliminating smallpox in 1980 has saved approx 150 million lives.
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@simonlevett4776 Now let's talk polio. When a vaccine was developed and started being introduced in the mid 50s polio was reduced by 99.9 in the industrialised world. In 1988 when the WHO really put an effort in to vaccinating the rest of the world apart from Pakistan and Afghanistan it has been eliminated and world wide we only have less than a thousand cases year. Vaccines work and save lives.
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@churchviewwishart8873 Senator Johnson is a an accountant by trade, why the hell would you listen to his advice on a conoravirus or a vaccine? Who does your tax return for you your plumber. I would be more than happy for Ron to do my tax return but he knows nothing about virology. All the side effects of the various vaccines is well known and common public knowledge we know AZ can cause blood clots in about one in 1.5 million and Pfizer can cause a headache, muscle ache and fatigue this has all been widely reported in the MSM. Once again and I don't know now how many times I have explained this, no vaccine has been approved for use on the general public without first being approved provisional by the FDA and provisional doesn't mean experimental. This is not my opinion this is the overwhelming advice from independent medical authorities all over the world. Are you willfully trying to be ignorant?
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@churchviewwishart8873 I was reasonable and balanced in my reply to your comments and unfortunately your opinion is just not based on reality and the known facts. I did not in any way vilify anyone in any of my comments and your use of the word displays a complete lack of understanding about reasoned discussion. Don't take your lack of knowledge personally it is a fault of the society you developed in. All of your responses have been full of cherry picking fallacies, making most if not all of what you said illogical and nonsensical. This is not a reflection on you personally only your argument.
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@LlamaOates Of course pharmaceutical companies screen their test subjects this is common public knowledge as they can't use people who are unable to consent, have a terminal illness, the list goes on. So no research required I already knew this. However these human trials were conducted by multiple different companies and research facilities across multiple different countries using people from all available ethnic, age, cultural, and diverse backgrounds. Then the seperate findings have to be approved by the health authorities of multiple different countries. Now if you are suggesting that all these and it would number in the tens of thousands of scientists have conspired together to get you to voluntarily take a vaccine you would have to provide some evidence of this.
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