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  1486.  @peterjones4180  The comment from the bloke on the left that we are in a war now with cyber attacks and Dutton is nailing it. Defence has had a specialist cyber warfare unit for some years and Minister Dutton had nothing to do with. It looks like Peter Dutton will be a good Defence minister but the idea that in two weeks Defence is on the right track, defence policy was already basically on track and nothing has changed other than some operational issues. He can whip up a White paper and if that is significantly different from his governments last one then I'm on board, but let's see some runs on the scoreboard before we start covering the Minister in praise. This mob just sounded like Dutton sycophants. The Bushmaster did under go some change in design specifications in late 97 and I will take the woman on the rights word that as the minister at the time she had some input into those but to suggest that as a new minister with zero knowledge of armoured vehicle design or engineering that her contribution significantly changed the capability of the bushmaster had me laughing. It was designed as a armoured truck and still is an armoured truck with no offensive capability, granted it is and excellent armoured truck. PMV technically. The woman on the left made some nonsensical comment about transgender toilets in defence. Every shit I took in the bush was a transgender toilet, and lastly the clown on the right that all our ports and farms are owned by the Chinese well that was just the topper, surely you would have to see that is just an absurd statement that all the others clowns on the panel just nodded in agreement, I can only assume that's what the think. I could go on but this is a good start.
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  1843.  @dlbeck2023  The solicitor-general was very clear. The Voice “would not pose any threat” to our system of government. In fact, it would “enhance” our system. Donaghue reached this conclusion for two reasons. First, the Voice does not alter the powers of parliament or government in any way. Section 129(2) makes clear the Voice has no veto. Section 129(2) also does not impose any obligation on parliament or the executive to consult with the Voice or follow its advice. Second, more fundamentally, the Voice would remedy a “distortion” in our system of government. The solicitor-general explained that the Voice would help overcome “barriers that have historically impeded effective participation by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in political discussions and decisions that affect them”. In short, it would improve our democracy by ensuring Indigenous people can have their voices heard. Question 2 The second question was directed at the scope of the Voice’s power. It asked whether the parliament or executive would be required to consider or follow representations made by the Voice. Once again, the solicitor-general was very clear: the answer is no. Donaghue explained that although it would “plainly be desirable for the Executive Government to consider any representations that the Voice makes to it”, parliament has the ultimate say. This means parliament could enact a law to require ministers or public servants take the advice of the Voice into account when making decisions. However, parliament could always amend or remove such a requirement. The Voice is subject to parliament
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  2994. ​ @klaasdykstra8127  Yours or my political opinion has nothing to do with energy production, and obliviously the production of anything be it a solar panel, a wind tower, a gas turbine, or a coal fired plant takes resources and adds a certain quantity of CO2 into the atmosphere and financial cost. You may or may not care about the levels of CO2 and the effect it is having on unnaturally warming the planet and in regard to energy production it is now almost irrelevant as renewable power production is already significantly cheaper than burning fossil fuels. Where I live it is a simple fact wind power is way cheaper than a coal power. Where I live you can't get anyone to invest in fossil fuel power, the free market has decided this, not governments. I understand this varies country to country and China and India still use vast amounts of coal even they are both investing heavily in renewables as they have proven to be cheaper. If all you are concerned with is cheap reliable power and care about nothing else then just step aside you have nothing to worry about. There is also depending on how it is done cheap safe SMR coming onto the market. The obsession with burning coal for electricity is just old thinking, and surely you understand it will run out eventually, turning to renewables now is just the commonsense thing to do both for cost and reliability. By the way your comment contained two fallacies an ad hominem and a strawman, by attacking me personally and suggesting we stop flying or eating meat which I did not even suggest, your entire argument is illogical.
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  3638. Sea level is the base level for measuring elevation and depth on Earth. Because the ocean is one continuous body of water, its surface tends to seek the same level throughout the world. However, winds, currents, river discharges, and variations in gravity and temperature prevent the sea surface from being truly level. So the surface of the ocean can be used as a base for measuring elevations, the concept of "local mean sea level" has been developed. In the United States and its territories, local mean sea level is determined by taking hourly measurements of sea levels over a period of 19 years at various locations, and then averaging all of the measurements. The 19-year period is called a Metonic cycle. It enables scientists to account for the long-term variations in the moon's orbit. It also averages out the effects of local weather and oceanographic conditions. Sea level is measured in relation to the adjacent land. Just like the ocean, the elevation of land may rise and fall over time. For example, the tremendous weight of a glacier on land pushes the land down, closer to sea level. That same land bounces back (a process called postglacial rebound) if the ice retreats, or melts, and its weight is removed. Local mean sea-level measurements are a combination of sea-level variations and movement of the land. Again I hope this helps as this is common public knowledge. If you wish, I could reference you thousands of published peer reviewed scientific papers that show this is an observable phenomenon. Or remain ignorant,your choice.
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  4123.  @Timbuctoo  No, nice try though, good deflection. Leviticus 20:13 It's disgusting for men to have sex with one another and those who do will be put to death, just as you deserve. I know you wouldn't do this as you are a good person and you will find a way to interpret this so as you not need to act in this way. Your argument will be well that's for Jews which is just a subjective opinion. I am not remotely concerned about what God decides only how humans behave in reality. Your bible has spread hate and division for close to 1800 years. Christians repeatedly reinterpret the writings to conform with the morals of the day as they evolve. You aren't a Christian either as you have modified and interpreted the bible to suit your own personal moral position, because you are a good person, in despite of your Christianity. Exodus 21 Leviticus 25:44-46 Ephesians 6:5-8 Timothy 6:1-2 Are all references to the bibles advocacy of slavery, which you and I both know is immoral. Neither of us practice this abhorrent practice yet your God says go ahead these are the rules. Your not a Christian just a good nice moral person who for whatever reason needs to cling to a text written and assembled 2000 years ago by persons we don't know in a ancient Greek language 100 years after the alleged life and death of a jesus character. I understand that is a quite a few points but my replies to you have been deleted by the moderater of this page for reasons I can't explain so I have put this all in one reply instead of several small one. My apologies.
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  4354. @gooble69  There is no argument illegal border crossings are at 20 year highs, however US customs and border protection data has Trumps third year in office with significantly higher illegal entries than all of the Obama years. I certainly agree Trump signed a surrender document with the Taliban and handed Afghanistan back. Your comment about potential threats is subjective at best and lacks data, but Trump certainly didn't commit the US to any conflicts during his tenure. Your comment about the economy is demonstratively false. Obama's job growth and economic growth were both higher than Trumps as has been Bidens. I have no idea where you get your data, but mine comes from the US department of commerce and uses the same measurements for all three administrations. Again according to US unemployment rates where under Trump it was down to 3.5% in Dec 2019 under Biden it was 3.5% in Sep 2022. Unemployment was certainly at historically low levels under Trump, but Biden has matched those levels, again your claim is false. The US achieved energy independence during the Obama administration, and Trump certainly maintained it, but again your claim is false. Your claim of more freedom is entirely yours and is very subjective, and it is certainly a good thing for you, but many people didn't feel more freedom under Trump. Trump certainly legislated a large tax cut, but he also at the same time increased the national debt proportionally far more than Obama did or Biden has. Obama's tax cut was larger and more targeted at working families than Trumps tax cut which was aimed directly at the rich. I get my news from numerous sources left and right mainstream and social. I also research my data claims. Your claims of Biden being measurably worse are just not supported by the Evidence. So as stated previously the data supports my assertions, Trump was a very average President who achieved little. Trump V Biden? A sad choice, a elderly man clearly past his prime and the other an old man clearly deluded. It is such shame neither side won't put it a better candidate. Haley V Newsom sounds so much better. How good would 8 years of Nicky Haley as President be?
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  4359. @gooble69  I said not particularly successful and very average, I certainly agree Trump had some success and never denied this in any of my replies and I provided data to support this fact. I appreciate Trump had to deal with a pandemic, however you deny international influences to Biden. You can't have it both ways. Under Biden inflation is on a downward trend and Biden matched Trumps unemployment numbers. When Biden took office Trump had unemployment at 6.3%. It is a ridiculous argument to suggest Trumps employment numbers are better than Bidens whose Job creation numbers far exceed Trumps. But let's just factcheck Trumps numbers to Obamas numbers over their terms of office. Jobs: Trump -2,876,000 Obama +11,572,000 unemployment: Trump 6.3% Obama 4.7% S&P index: Trump +67.8% Obama +166% Now I could go on and some of Trumps numbers are better than Obamas, but as clearly stated on numerous occasions when you look at the data there is nothing to suggest Trumps presidency was anything other than average, other than his record low unemployment rate which was already on a downward trend and which Biden has matched. Yes I understand Trump made you feel good for whatever reasons, and you need to rationalise that feeling, but trying to do it with economic data of hard facts is not possible. Another thing Trump excelled at was the growth in his four years of renewable energy sources, the highest of any President, but coal mining jobs went backwards 8500, but then carbon emissions in the US fell 11.5% so theres swings and balances. US oil production increased under Trump but the trade deficit grew by 40.5% so again very average economic numbers.
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  4533. In 1770 Lieutenant James Cook claimed ownership of the east coast of Australia on behalf of Great Britain. This claim was based on the concept of terra nullius, or land of nobody, whereby Britain assumed that Aboriginal people did not have any form of political organisation and therefore no leaders with the authority to sign treaties. It meant in effect that, according to British law, Australia’s Indigenous population had no legitimate claim to the land on which they had lived for thousands of years. In 1835 grazier and explorer John Batman used a treaty to buy land around Port Phillip Bay (present-day Melbourne) directly from its Aboriginal inhabitants. However, Governor Bourke’s Proclamation of 10 October that year stated that people found dwelling on land without the authority of the government would be considered trespassers. This proclamation quashed the treaty and codified the concept of terra nullius. Aboriginal people therefore could not sell land, nor could individuals acquire it, except directly through the Crown. Four people standing in front of a statue of Lady Justice. - click to view larger image From left: Dave Passi, Eddie Mabo, barrister Bryan Keon-Cohen and James Rice outside the Queensland Supreme Court, 1989 Challenging terra nullius In May 1982 a group of Meriam from the Eastern Torres Strait including David Passi, Sam Passi, Celuia Mapo Salee and James Rice, led by Eddie Koiki Mabo, lodged a case with the High Court of Australia for legal ownership of the island. Over a period of 10 years, 33 Meriam people, including the plaintiffs, generated 4,000 pages of transcripts of evidence. The evidence presented included proof that the eight clans of Mer (Murray Island) have occupied clearly defined territories on the island for hundreds of years, and proved the continuity of custom on Mer. The High Court resolved that the Supreme Court of Queensland should determine the parameters of the case. While this decision was underway, the Queensland Parliament passed the Torres Strait Islands Coastal Islands Act 1985, which ‘extinguished without compensation’ any Torres Strait Islander claims to their traditional lands. In February 1986, the Meriam challenged the legislation and in December 1988 the High Court ruled in the Mabo No. 1 case that the Act contravened the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act 1975. This enabled the High Court to begin hearing Mabo No. 2, the Meriam’s land rights case. On 3 June 1992, six of the seven judges agreed that the Meriam held traditional ownership of the lands of Mer. The decision led to the passing of the Native Title Act 1993, providing the framework for all Australian Indigenous people to make claims of native title.
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  4586.  @PJRayment  No you haven't answered a single thing merely cowardly side stepped a simple question. In the context of standard of living the individual religious history of country is irrelevant as on average more secular a country is the better off it is. The US is not a particularly religious country when compared to Timor Leste or Nigeria or many other countries. Your have provides zero evidence for your claim of a god or any of your assertions. The data clearly shows there absolutely no benefit to religious belief or practices. That doesn't mean secularism is the cause of increased life expectancy, better wealth, less crime, better wealth distribution, better education outcomes, all it means is there is no advantage whatsoever for a society to engage in religious practices. No Phil you never make a claim because you know you know you can't defend your position. It's just cowardly. Comorbidities has nothing to to with the total fatality rate. Obese people existed before covid, as did diabetics, as did cancer suffers. It is stupid beyond belief to suggest anything other than Covid contributed to the steep rise in deaths in the US from early 2020. It doesn't even make sense with your earlier statement that the US is a religious country considering it was one of the worst hit countries for covid deaths. It is just nonsensical idiocy. Your god completely deserted millions of fundamentalist Christians you didn't mask up and refused vaccines and died in thier droves, totally unnecessarily.
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  4674.  @davegoldspink5354  You seem to be unable to understand plain speak. I didn't accuse you of deleting anything, all I said was I could not see your posts either in obviously the same way you don't seem to be able to see mine. So your fallacious strawman argument fails again. I have not deleted any of my comments. So once again aside from your continued childish rants and attempted personal slurs you have presented nothing again of any substance, just mindless opinion. The only state owned coal power is in Queensland and is still operating. No state government has closed a coal plant in recent years they are privately owned. The individual owner may have ceased operating them because they were to expensive to maintain. You are just factually wrong again. Exporting gas has been a massive financial gain for Australia in export dollars and infrastructure build creating thousands of jobs. Exporting gas has contributed to our increased wealth, you are factually wrong again. Mining revenues in Australia have tripled over the last ten years, you are factually wrong again. Agriculture exports were 15% of GDP last year and along with mining account for almost a 25% of our exports, you are factually wrong again. Over the last 50 years the percentage of our farming exports has dropped a little, but this is only because we are exporting more of other items like mining education, and health so on that point you are correct. Aside from the recession caused by covid the Australian economy has bounced back nicely as is currently 2.2% annually, you are factually wrong again. Recently we had a free and fair federal election and state elections without violence or fraud. Western democracy is safe and sound here in Australia. Thankfully, you are factually wrong again. Nice try but apart from your minor point on Agriculture where despite our exports massive growth as a proportion of exports total it has reduced a bit, there wasn't any other thing you got remotely correct. Have another go and do some research this time.
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  5541.  @TeliosTommy  I made no claims about the BIden administration, however your comment is full of fallacious statements. 1. Fuel prices has risen significantly worldwide, due to a decision by OPEC to reduce production because of the Covid recession, and then a slow response by oil producers to ramp up production. With demand coming back strong under the Biden administration took office in Jan 21 demand has continued to outstrip supply and American oil production has found it more profitable to export oil than sell it on the domestic market. 2. The American government has little to no control over US citizens in foreign countries. The US issued warnings well in advance of the withdrawal of US forces. Trump actually signed the withdrawal agreement in Feb 20 so any American had 18 months to get out. No American has been forced to have a vaccine. Provide the evidence for this statement. Yes if you wanted to maintain your employment you may of had to have a shot, but that was your choice. Vast amounts of Americans remain unvaccinated. 3. No US serviceable military equipment was left behind. Afghan military equipment of US manufacture was captured by the Taliban, which was most unfortunate but what was the alternative take all the weapons off the Afghan army before the US left? What would you have expected to happen? I agree poor intelligence meant the US had to go back in and secure Kandahar airport, but this was always part of the planning as the US had positioned a MAU and the 82 Airborne in case of that eventuality.
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  5729.  @dpitt1516  Hilarious, both the Arafura and F35 procurements were decisions by Liberal governments and you comically attempt to blame Labor, where do you do stand up, because you are genuinely funny. The current government has already sounded the US out about possibly procuring the B21 Raider bomber so that criticism is just unfounded. The E7A of which we have 6 has proven such a good platform that yes other countries are requesting we assist them and that provides vital operational experience to the crews, again that criticism is completely unfounded. The Taipan was another LNP government decision and while a good platform was not useful for SF, but again you can’t blame Labor. New aircraft as you rightly point out to replace out ARH and MRH capabilities are coming, can we have more, of course, but again these were ordered by a LNP government, blame Dutton. While I’ll agree with you that we can always want more, there has been no degradation of our MBT or Artillery weapons systems in the last two years. As per the SDR a recommendation was made to reduce the amount of IFVs to be procured and while I disagree with this decision myself I understand it as resources needed to be allocated to strengthening the Navy. The Hawkei is an excellent platform and to blame the Labor government for a manufacturing fault that has now been remedied under warranty is again just idiotic. While Labor can take some blame for the slow replacement of the Collins class the LNP bears significant responsibility for the chaos it has become. If you had any understanding of SSN construction in the west suggesting Labor could fix it in 2 years is again comedy gold. I’m not sure what yelling achieves but a more coherent argument from yourself might help. Try using some facts.
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  5916. The solicitor-general is Australia’s second highest-ranking law officer, after the attorney-general. However, while the attorney-general is a political position filled by a member of parliament, the solicitor-general is independent. Their job is to provide independent legal advice to the government and represent the Commonwealth in legal proceedings. The solicitor-general was asked to advise the government on two questions. whether the proposed amendment is compatible with Australia’s system of government and whether the proposed amendment gives parliament the power to decide the legal effect of any representation, or whether parliament and the executive are required to consider or follow those representations. What does the advice say? Question 1 The solicitor-general was very clear. The Voice “would not pose any threat” to our system of government. In fact, it would “enhance” our system. Donaghue reached this conclusion for two reasons. First, the Voice does not alter the powers of parliament or government in any way. Section 129(2) makes clear the Voice has no veto. Section 129(2) also does not impose any obligation on parliament or the executive to consult with the Voice or follow its advice. Second, more fundamentally, the Voice would remedy a “distortion” in our system of government. The solicitor-general explained that the Voice would help overcome “barriers that have historically impeded effective participation by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in political discussions and decisions that affect them”. In short, it would improve our democracy by ensuring Indigenous people can have their voices heard. Question 2 The second question was directed at the scope of the Voice’s power. It asked whether the parliament or executive would be required to consider or follow representations made by the Voice. Once again, the solicitor-general was very clear: the answer is no. Donaghue explained that although it would “plainly be desirable for the Executive Government to consider any representations that the Voice makes to it”, parliament has the ultimate say. This means parliament could enact a law to require ministers or public servants take the advice of the Voice into account when making decisions. However, parliament could always amend or remove such a requirement. The Voice is subject to parliament
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  6029.  @AximandTheCursed  Once again where I live the fossil fuel industry attracts government subsidies 3 to 4 times more than the renewable industry. These include desiel fuel rebates, subsidies to coal transport infrastructure, discount price of coal to coal power plants and gas is so expensive in Australia the government regulates how much energy companies can sell it for. All up it totals $11 billion a year as opposed to $3 billon for renewables, this is common knowledge and is in the public domain. Green energy in the form of hydrogen is more than capable of being used in the heaviest of industries and no CO2 emissions. China is an unique situation in that a very large population has risen very quickly from a low base to high level of affluence. This has come at a great cost to the environment and one which even the Chinese acknowledge and they are taking measures to control their CO2 emissions, but it is not an easy fix. There have been huge uptakes in renewables in China admittedly from a very low base. In the future some nucs will be able to incinerate waste but that technology is not here yet. Finland is a storage facility and lots of people just don't like the idea of one near them. Selfish but true. Yes Australia is predominantly powered by coal, but as an example one state South Australia which was once entirely powered by coal only 15 years ago is now virtually 100% renewable. Yes there is some gas and other bits and pieces, but South Australia still maintains its steel and aluminium smelters. Australia is rapidly taking up renewables, in fact no private investors will put any money into fossil fuels power generation in Australia other than federal and state governments who are building gas plants with tax payers money.
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  6970.  @grannyannie6744  You have thrown a lot out there. So, firstly your personal details are of no interest to me and irrelevant in a discussion about religious freedom, which I maintain you have, as you have yet to provide any evidence of the contrary. The one incident you described I proved false. You are free to worship whoever you want in any manner, within the bounds of the secular law of the state, ie no stoning to death of children for being disobedient. Unbelievably you defended slavery, with all manner of apologist excuses for bible believing Christians. It was not Christians who ended slavery in the US it was a civil war that ended it, however the racism continued. Childcare has nothing to do with religious freedom and I have no idea why it was raised, but on a side note as you have, psychologists speak positively of the socialisation children gain in learning to interact with other children, it isn’t the hellhole picture you painted, but I am willing to agree some childcare centres may be performing below community expectations. Women have exactly the same rights as men no less no more. To suggest otherwise flys in the face of all logic. You are even exercising those rights now in this discussion, a right your Christian religion denied women for 2000 years, and in some areas still does. Since the enlightenment and the flourishing of science, our life expectancy has increased, we are healthier, literacy has increased, in almost every measure our standard of living has improved, we discuss on platforms that 50 years ago could not have been imagined. I understand you don’t think they are improvements but the vast majority of people on the planet do. Lastly what questions have I not answered? You still haven’t shown me any lack of religious freedom on your part, other than it’s illegal to own a slave any longer. What is an argument bigot?
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  6972.  @grannyannie6744  I appreciate your commitment to the education of young children, it is admired. So your problem has nothing to do with religious freedom but your belief that sex and gender is binary, through your own personal experience. This is a classic example of anecdotal fallacious argument. My intellectually disabled (1p36 deletion syndrome) daughter entered the Catholic primary school system which very soon found itself incapable of managing her disability and recommended she move to an IO class at a public school. She received wonderful care and education there and then at a public high school where she again was treated with great care and with the skills she learnt in school was able to enter the workforce, be it in a supported business. So my personal experience completely nullifies yours. My experience of the Catholic education system was it was worse than useless. All the science proves beyond doubt that gender dysphoria is a real thing. It is recognised by the American Psychiatric Association, is there something you know that they don't? I didn't just use the example of women being treated equally, I also mentioned several other advances in society in the last 50 years. Equal pay for work, and a whole host of jobs that women were not considered capable of are now routinely filled by women. I understand you don't consider this an improvement but almost universally women do. No Bill was passed by the parliament. So religious schools are still able to discriminate against unmarried women, divorcees and LGBTQI students. So what is your problem. You have religious freedom and you can discriminate in your schools. I'm not even sure you know.
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  7101.  @grannyannie2948  G'day, just a couple of points from your last reply, yes I understand exactly how complex the global economy is as this was what I was explaining to you. Yes we were exporting pig iron to Japan prior to WWII and the US was supplying Japan with almost all its oil, it was when the US cut off its oil that forced Japan to act. Thus providing evidence Australia can't just shut itself off and expect no consequences. Next point, Australian clothing manufacturing did not go overseas because of cheap labour it went overseas because Australian businesses decided it was cheaper than investing in automation. Germany is a classic example of a people that decided to maintain high paying jobs in manufacturing. Don't blame low paying wages in Asia for our own greed. We could have keep manufacturing in Australia if we had chosen to. Next. While I'll grant you unemployment was low during the sixties, unemployment has been much higher in other periods ( before WWII and in the 50s and 70s) than it is currently is. This was due to world economic factors and the reason things were so good economically in the 60s was our exports took off, something you wish to stop. Next, we are all immigrants and nobody would have a house if it wasn't for them. Nobody wants to be working class, people aspire to be better off and thier children to be educated, nobody wants for thier kids to stuck in the SPC plant canning fruit. Next as soon as women became educated and science gave them the ability to control their own bodies your idea of family went out the window. Women have in the vast vast majority expressly shown exactly the opposite of what you think, and if a women wants that they can find a well payed husband. Next the best welfare is a advanced well functioning Western economy like we have. Advanced economies move into exporting health and education and automation, computing technology and design, this is where well paying jobs are, not in manufacturing. Next nobody in this country was forced to take a vaccine. Perfectly legal health orders and mandates for particular industries were implemented. These orders were tested in the courts and proved beyond a shadow of doubt to be fair and in line with our constitution. You are simply mistaken on this. Religious freedom is granted in our constitution, that doesn't mean you have the right to be a bigot and discriminate against others as Christians currently do. Fortunately we are a secular state and because of compassionate anti discrimination laws we prevent religous fundamentalists from picking on minorities. Next conscription has a varied history in this country it has been considered moral and immoral as circumstances have changed, many in the community are now in favour of it as the threat from China grows. Next. Yes we do like global things and is evidenced by our enthusiastic behaviour in being an active member in the UN. Finally demographics are constantly changing they don't need a WEF conspiracy theory to help it along.
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  7143.  @batmanlives6456  It is not a personal insult, it is a just a logical fallacy in argumentation to base your argument on personal experience, it is an anecdotal fallacy. Once again I am fully aware of the NEM and how it shows in real time where our electricity is being produced less WA. As I look now renewables are providing 33% of electricity being used and that doesn't include rooftop solar. Currently electricity cost in Queensland is $87 as opposed to SA were it is .02 cents. One mostly coal the other mostly solar. You dismissed numerous independent LCOE studies as "manipulated" with no evidence that's why I mentioned conspiracy, provide the evidence LCOE studies are false, and I'll retract that comment. In NSW alone government directly subsidies coal by providing the infrastructure virtually free, this includes the railways, port facilities, and a 50% discount on the coal price for coal used in NSW power plants. Federally these tax subsidies amount to $10.3 billion a year. Wind and solar subsidies are $2.8 billion. I am absolutely comparing apples to apples, but I haven't got a clue what you are comparing or how. Only last year NSW allocated $100 million to coal innovation research. These are all facts. Another fallacy you are using is the strawman fallacy. Nobody is suggesting a single battery is going to solve the instant dispatchability of Fossil fuels. There are various means to do this. These criticisms of your argument are not directed at you personally, they are directed at your argument and show it to be fallacious nonsense.
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  7235.  @oldtimers6460  Yes I totally agree the price of electricity is rising as the cost of fossil fuel has sky-rocketed. Renewable energy in Australia still is less than a third. It is the increasing cost of oil and gas that has sent your bill up, not solar power in SA. Renewable energy is subsidised however fossil fuels in Australia are subsidised to the tune of $12 billion annually so your point is mute. All energy production requires resources and all the data shows the LCOE for renewables is significant cheaper than fossil fuels. Your understanding of the Texas power failure is just simply wrong and I'll reference the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission reports all of which blamed fossil fuel failures and the industries failure to winterise their infrastructure. Renewables had absolutely nothing to do with it. Gas supply was plentiful but the infrastructure to deliver it froze. Once again UK and Germany are transitioning to renewable energy and made a poor decision to purchase gas from Russia as in Germany's case it took its nuc power off-line. These were poor management decisions not the fault of renewable energy capacity. Why are solar panels subsidised, why is coal subsidised? Why are EVs subsidised, why was the car making industry in Australia subsidised? China is rapidly building renewable capacity 17.66% in 2008 27.73% in 2021. India has 38% renewable capacity installed as of 2020. So both countries are moving towards their 2030 targets of reducing emissions. My data is publicly available, I don't know where you are getting your info. Renewable Energy India - Indian Power Industry investment The East is Green: China global leadership in Renewable Energy.
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  7577. ​ @PJRayment  This is all I can find on Indigenous culture in the national curriculum. “Humanities and Social Sciences is the primary learning area in which students explore and deepen their knowledge of Aboriginal Peoples and Torres Strait Islander Peoples as the world’s oldest continuous living cultures and First Nations Peoples of Australia. This learning area provides students with the opportunity to understand the histories of Australian First Nations Peoples, which involve occupation of the Australian continent for more than 60,000 years. Students understand the enduring impacts of colonisation on Australian First Nations Peoples’ cultures and impact of the doctrine of terra nullius on ownership of and access to Country/Place. Importantly, this learning area includes the significant contributions of Australian First Nations Peoples’ histories and cultures on a local, national, regional and global scale. Students appreciate and celebrate the diversity of Australian First Nations Peoples’ cultures. They understand how these cultures are based on special connections to Country/Place, and have unique belief systems and ways of being, knowing, thinking and doing linked to these physical and spiritual interconnections. The development of these understandings includes exploring contemporary issues that demonstrate the dynamic nature of Australian First Nations Peoples’ cultures. This learning area develops students’ knowledge of citizenship that positions First Nations Australians as the Traditional Owners of Country/Place and highlights how native title law recognises Australian First Nations Peoples’ rights and interests. Students examine the sophisticated social organisation systems, protocols, kinship structures, economies and enterprises of First Nations Australians. To study this learning area, students use primary and secondary sources, including oral histories and traditional, culturally appropriate sources to see events through multiple perspectives. This allows them to empathise and ethically consider the investigation, preservation and conservation of sites of significance to First Nations Australians.”  This is not CRT this is just learning about indigenous culture.
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  9648.  @minkyfran8307  On the understanding that this is not a public space but a privately owned platform and hence there are limited free speech rights, what can possibly be wrong with airing non controversial public knowledge economic data. The economic data I showed was the same source under Republican administrations as Democrat administrations. Your use of the term gaslighting is not supported by any evidence, only your opinion. You provide no evidence of your statement that everyone knows this. Why are you so frightened of the factual data. The US economy under Trump was doing quite well, the covid recession hurt but you can't blame him for that, and then with a change of government Republicans seem to think the end of the economic world is just around the corner. It is just not a reasoned argument. The Republicans under Trump spent $1.4 trillion in covid stimulus and yet you entirely blame Biden for the current inflation problem. It is a simplistic notion. How can spending under Trump be good but under Biden bad. How can a cheque from Trump be good but one from Biden bad. To me that just doesn't make sense. As opposed to your desire to live in a self reflected bubble I enjoy listening , reading and gathering the news and views from all sides of the political and economic divide. Considering I am an huge advocate for the Western style of democratic capitalism is there really any point with the continuing labelling of leftist as if it is some sort of insult. I have no idea what a leftist is, or in your mind is everyone who is not a Republican a leftist?
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  9793.  @robharris6874  Here is further information on how science can determine temperature and climate from the past. Carbon dioxide levels have risen since the end of the Ice Age, first to a natural level of about 280 p.p.m. just before the start of the Industrial Era, and then to 400 p.p.m. as people burned coal and petroleum in large quantities. Carbon dioxide is currently increasing at a rate of about 2.6 p.p.m. per year. A critical question is the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide 35 million years ago, when glaciers began to form in Antarctica, for it serves as a rough estimate of the concentration needed to melt present-day Antarctica. It’s a rough estimate only, for geological conditions were not exactly the same now and then. In particular, strong ocean currents that today keep warmer waters away from Antarctica were not present 35 million years ago, owing to the somewhat different configuration of tectonic plates. Unfortunately, the best currently-available estimates of atmospheric carbon dioxide during this critical time period have large uncertainties. Carbon dioxide decreased from 600-1400 p.p.m. at the start of the glaciations to 400-700 p.p.m. several million years later. These measurements are consistent with modeling results, which give a threshold of about 780 p.p.m. for the formation of a continental-scale ice cap on Antarctica. This value will be reached by the year 2150 at the present growth rate of atmospheric carbon dioxide – or sooner if emission rates continue to soar – suggesting that Antarctica will be at risk of melting at that time. Antarctic ice will not melt overnight even should the threshold be reached. The deglaciation at the end of the Ice Age provides a useful example. The rate of sea level rise was initially low, just one-tenth of an inch per year. It then gradually increased, peaking at about 3 inches per year about 14,000 years ago, which was about 5,000 years after the start of the deglaciation. This rate persisted for 1,600 years, during which time sea level rose a total of 60 feet. The average rate of sea level rise was slower, about a half-inch per year.
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  10330. Denialists like Bolt and Kenny claim that Flannery meant by this that our dams would never fill again at any time for any reason from the date Flannery was speaking. However, what Flannery was actually saying that climate trends at the time indicated a long-term outcome of normalized water shortage consistent with IPCC projections Flannery’s comments were to the effect that Australia was at the time currently experiencing a 60% fall in run-off going into dams due to hotter soils and greater rainfall take-up by drought-stressed vegetation and that this would be indicative of what we could eventually expect as a consistent and normal outcome in the future. He did not say that the dams would never fill again at any time from the date he was speaking, which is the thick-as-a-brick intentionally distorted view presented by Bolt and fellow travellers. Flannery was pointing to a long-term outcome of normalized water shortage based on current data and climate trends. Flannery’s quote in context is: We’re already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we’re getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that’s translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That’s because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems
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  10653.  @daniellebcooper7160  So as explained earlier a rudimentary understanding of the history of an indigenous voice goes as far back as the 1930s and representations to the then King of England. It is not a left or right issue although you seem keen to make it so. Constitutional recognition of indigenous peoples can’t open any loopholes to the constitution and at least 6 constitutional expert lawyers have said so. Both Liberal and Labor governments going as far back as Menzies have supported indigenous rights. The consultations and debates within the indigenous community took over ten years and resulted in the Uluṟu statement from the heart to all Australians by the indigenous community and it is what the indigenous community asked for. They deserve the respect to take that request to the people of Australia. You misunderstand the difference between political representation and constitutional recognition furthering my belief you are simply uneducated on the topic. It is not relevant what practical solutions it will provide that is not its purpose it is a strawman argument and a deliberate deflection. Once again Pauline Hansen is a despicable racist of the worst kind. I lived in Darwin for 10 years I saw some wonderful things and experienced some indigenous culture I also personally witnessed some abhorrent racism. Spending time with someone is again not relevant it is a childish argument. I never spent any time with Jeffery Dahmer but I know he was evil. I never spent any time with Howard Florey but I know he was a good man.
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  11612. The solicitor-general is Australia’s second highest-ranking law officer, after the attorney-general. However, while the attorney-general is a political position filled by a member of parliament, the solicitor-general is independent. Their job is to provide independent legal advice to the government and represent the Commonwealth in legal proceedings. The solicitor-general was asked to advise the government on two questions. whether the proposed amendment is compatible with Australia’s system of government and whether the proposed amendment gives parliament the power to decide the legal effect of any representation, or whether parliament and the executive are required to consider or follow those representations. What does the advice say? Question 1 The solicitor-general was very clear. The Voice “would not pose any threat” to our system of government. In fact, it would “enhance” our system. Donaghue reached this conclusion for two reasons. First, the Voice does not alter the powers of parliament or government in any way. Section 129(2) makes clear the Voice has no veto. Section 129(2) also does not impose any obligation on parliament or the executive to consult with the Voice or follow its advice. Second, more fundamentally, the Voice would remedy a “distortion” in our system of government. The solicitor-general explained that the Voice would help overcome “barriers that have historically impeded effective participation by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in political discussions and decisions that affect them”. In short, it would improve our democracy by ensuring Indigenous people can have their voices heard. Question 2 The second question was directed at the scope of the Voice’s power. It asked whether the parliament or executive would be required to consider or follow representations made by the Voice. Once again, the solicitor-general was very clear: the answer is no. Donaghue explained that although it would “plainly be desirable for the Executive Government to consider any representations that the Voice makes to it”, parliament has the ultimate say. This means parliament could enact a law to require ministers or public servants take the advice of the Voice into account when making decisions. However, parliament could always amend or remove such a requirement. The Voice is subject to parliament
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  11707. So Alan starts off with a total lack of information, but then somehow manages to come around and show a certain level level of understanding about disability. So Alan get this straight before you go off on a idiotic rant, a Liberal government would never even of thought of creating a NDIS. It was something that was thrown around in a vague notion during the Whitlam years and then resurrected with some substance in Rudds 2020 vision conference. John DelaBosca and Bill Shorten then put some meat on it and to her credit in minority government Gillard passed it into law. I can only assume you lack this understanding and are not being deliberately misleading, but it was fully funded from the beginning. There was in increase to the Medicare levy, an agreed contribution from individual state governments and then a federal government contribution. The NDIS has allowed my wife to return to full time work and hence pay tax, it allowed me to deploy operationally in defence of this country and most importantly provided my disabled daughter a level of care and independence that has significantly improved the well being her life and that of my entire family. You might have thought you were being clever having a cheap shot at Julia Gillard, nope you just came across as ignorant. Finally to all the people who will comment on this comment the NDIS is as it is in the title an insurance scheme it is not charity or a social welfare payment, hence the comments previous about the cost just goes to show the level of stupidity out there in the general public!!!!!
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  11819.  @PJRayment  No you are not. The Constitution specifically excluded aboriginals "in reckoning the numbers of the people of the Commonwealth" The 67 referendum went some way to fixing the inherently racist beginnings of our constitution but did not fix it entirely. By conceding this point in your reply you have agreed to the constitution originally making them non citizens. The consultation, debates, and conventions that led to the constitution all excluded indigenous peoples, otherwise show evidence they did, you can't there is none. This was by action racist and deliberately so. You don't have to admitt to being racist it is proven in your actions. Section 25 specifically allows the states to disqualify people from voting in elections on account of race. Section 51 (xxvi) provided that the Parliament could legislate with respect to any race, other than the aboriginal race. This was the so called race power, and was amended by the 67 referendum. When it clearly states race to deny it is racist is just being obtuse. And finally Section 127 is where in reckoning the numbers Aboriginals were made non citizens. Specifically as "aboriginal natives". To deny the influence a racist who was the leader of the 1897-98 convention then our first PM and who immediately used the racist legal provisions in the constitution to legislate the white Australia policy (which I'm sure you will argue wasn't racist at all). One framer the Tasmanian AG suggested a US style equal protection of the laws was shot down as WA had laws on the books at the time to prevent Asians and Africans from obtaining a miners right or even go mining. So racism won the day. The racist constitution also enabled legislation to be passed to prevent aboriginals from voting this was the Commonwealth Franchise act 1902. To quote a future GG "Aboriginals have not the intelligence, interest or capacity to vote" or Henry Higgins later to become a Justice on our High court "It is utterly inappropriate to ask them to exercise an intelligent vote. By action the constitution allowed racist legislation and it was deliberately framed this way. Only significant constitutional change can remedy these racist provisions in our constitution. A voice enshrined is not racist but merely provides equality that has long been denied. It has no veto power, no legislative ability, and no financial delegation. It is a very modest proposal from the indigenous community and must be put to a referendum.
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  12090.  @rachael560  There is carer payment and a carer allowance at least there was when my wife got it, but it was something like $90 a fortnight. The carer payment is equivalent to the disability pension, so the parent would not be able to work and is a full time carer. The Idea of the NDIS is to enable the flexibility for the system to provide individual solutions. Again if a parent/carer can’t work and is receiving a career payment then they should be entitled to extra payment s to cover the costs associated with caring for a disabled person. As you know autism is on a scale of severity mildly autistic people can function perfectly well in society, they may just appear a little quirky but severely autistic people can be non verbal and barely able to function. My daughter was long out of school before she received a NDIS package. We developed an intimate relationship with the taxi company and she had the same driver eventually she qualified for taxi vouchers and these covered half the cost. These were other factors as we lived in remote locations with limited resources, but I don’t want to get to hooked up into my personal circumstances. I have had 44 years experience with disability and the NDIS is the best thing ever. Is it perfect? No. It will always require close attention and improvements. I understand my experience is only anecdotal and as such is not evidence of anything, but I can honestly say because of my personal situation I have known hundreds of disabled people and their parents/carers over the years and universally the NDIS is superior to the ad hoc all over the place bits and piece state by state schemes that existed before.
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  12298.  @Ruby-ss6mu  The latest study, published in the journal BMJ Global Health by researchers in the US and China, is based on analysis of 34 studies from countries where same-sex relationships are legal, including the US, UK and parts of Europe. These studies compared the development of children raised by heterosexual parents with those brought up by lesbian and gay parents – and some studies also included the families of bisexual, queer or transgender parents. The team analysed data from 16 of the studies and found that sexual minority parents reported significantly fewer psychological problems among preschool-age children than heterosexual parents, although no difference was found among older, school-age children. While family functioning, couple relationship satisfaction, parental mental health and parenting stress showed no differences based on parents’ sexual orientation, in some areas sexual minority families appear to fare better. “Sexual minority parent groups showed higher levels of parent-child relationship quality, such as higher levels of warmth, greater amounts of interaction and more supportive behaviour, when compared with the heterosexual parent groups,” the researchers wrote. Dr Rachel Farr, an expert in LGBTQ+ parent families at the University of Kentucky, who was not involved with the work, raised concerns that the study took into account controversial or even discredited research – including a study that suggested having same-sex parents increases the likelihood of negative social, emotional and relational outcomes. Deni Mazrekaj, an assistant professor of sociology at Utrecht University, also raised concerns, noting that some research included in the study had been misinterpreted as suggesting children from same-sex families had poorer academic performance, while other pertinent research had not been included. However, Farr said the review’s conclusions reflected the findings of a large body of research. “The general message is the same,” she said. “The sexual orientation and gender identity of parents are far less important to children’s outcomes and development as compared to what happens within families, such as the quality of parenting and family relationships
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  12472.  @fitlegend9733  I read and source my information from a wide range of sources, stating my only source is CNN is a ad hominem fallacy and renders your point nonsensical. Your next paragraph merely repeated what I stated and hence you agreed with me. Where are NATO troops located in Serbia, Afghanistan, and Libya now? Answer nowhere all troops withdrew once stability was restored and sovereignty handed over your comparison to Russia and Ukraine is absurd. Russia intends to stay. You then go on to just reiterate that yes Russia has legitimate concerns which I already agreed to. You need to read my replies more carefully. Yes you are correct I was mistaken about the UN vote they voted condemning the invasion not sanctions, but an abstainion is not a no, a no is a no. Your point does not stand 191 countries condemned the invasion and it is ridiculous bordering on the deranged to suggest they did so under duress from the US, you provide no evidence of this. Currently over 30 countries have imposed sanctions on Russia again provide evidence they did this under duress from the US? Yes India and Turkey have abstained and that's because they are both purchasing S400 AA missile systems from Russia, no explanation required. Your statement about trust for NATO defys the observable proof, NATO just had a hugely successful meeting in Ramstein and left with a consensus about the war in Ukraine. India is currently in a direct border conflict with China, hence it is already on our side and has in the last six months joined us in significant military and economic and trade alliances. The West still maintains its political economic and military superiority, but yes things change not necessarily for the better, good luck dealing with China.
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  12479.  @lesliewilliam3777  So the research has shown there is a consistent proportion of the population that is homosexual and it is around 5 to 10%. So the suggestion that human reproduction is at risk is just nonsensical. Women's fertility ratea vary however the CDC has about 19% of women in the US are unable to get pregnant within 12 months of trying and of that 25% are unable to carry the pregnancy to term. So this idea of yours that it is unnatural because there is no chance of reproduction is just illogical nonsense. Not all women can reproduce and of course some men are infertile as well. Following is a short list of species that in scientific studies have displayed homosexual behaviour 1.Bonobo 2.Common Dolphin 3. Horses 4. Fox 5. Koala 6. King Penguins The list is more extensive however the point is made homosexual behaviours ar not limited to humans. It appears in many other species and appears to be perfectly normal natural behaviour but obviously not universal and in the minority. Science and research continues but there is a hypothesis that homosexual behaviour has evolved as a survival technique and that in our past history when resources where limited through drought or whatever a tribe was better equipped to survive with a gay element as the didn't reproduce and hence were able to conserve their resources better than tribes who didn't and keep on giving birth and consuming extra resources. Again I'm not suggesting this as fact and there are other theories as to why the proportion of homosexuals in a society is fairly constant. Your argument that homosexual behaviour is unnatural because they can't reproduce is just illogical nonsense, apart from the fact quite a few homosexual men do reproduce with women in arrangements. So wants your next line of argument.
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  12651.  @cletusjnrthethird  No it has been completely debunked. in September, the Australian Bureau of Statistics published provisional mortality data for the year to June 2022. It includes death counts which the ABS has compared to four-year historical averages (2017-19 and 2021) to provide an "initial indication" of whether deaths are tracking higher than expected. The results show that there were roughly 17 per cent (13,526) more deaths than the baseline average in the first six months of 2022. But on the question of whether that says anything about vaccine safety, the Australian Actuaries Institute's Karen Cutter told CheckMate: "The simple answer is no." She explained that the provisional data only provides counts for a handful of major causes of death, and "does not show anything at all that attributes death to vaccines or not". Tim Adair, a principal research fellow with Melbourne University's School of Population and Global Health, similarly said the numbers "don't shed any light" on vaccine-related deaths. And in a statement to CheckMate, the Therapeutic Goods Administration, which regulates vaccines in Australia, warned that despite a rise in deaths this year, it was "false and unscientific to automatically conclude that vaccines caused these deaths". "There is no credible evidence to suggest that COVID-19 vaccines have contributed to excess deaths in Australia or overseas." According to the TGA's October 6 weekly vaccine safety report, only 14 deaths have been directly linked to COVID-19 vaccines in Australia, of which 13 occurred after one dose of Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca). As for the increase, the ABS makes clear that its provisional data "does not provide official estimates of excess mortality". Partly that's because it "does not take into account changes in population size and age-structures of that population, as well as expected improvements in mortality rates over time". Adjusting for this, the Actuaries Institute estimates that excess mortality in the first half of 2022 was closer to 13 per cent (11,200). Roughly half (5,620) of those deaths were "from" COVID-19, it found, meaning non-COVID excess deaths stood at roughly 6.5 per cent. Major contributors to the rise were dementia, cancer, ischaemic heart disease and cerebrovascular diseases. (There were also more deaths from other "unspecified diseases", though the institute notes that "this is a large 'catch-all' category" from which it is difficult to draw conclusions.) But the data does not point to vaccines as a culprit. As Ms Cutter noted, "the vast majority of the excess deaths were in people aged over 75, but we have a huge population over the age of 16 that has been vaccinated". "So, the age statistics would indicate that it's not vaccine-related, otherwise we'd be seeing a lot more excess deaths in younger people." More likely, she said, was that people were suffering strokes, heart attacks or other fatal conditions several months after recovering from COVID-19 — which was consistent with "multiple studies showing that COVID increases" such risks.
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  12716.  @chrisg8321  Here is more data that explains why Palestinians support Hamas We asked respondents to speculate about Hamas’ reasons for waging its October the 7th offensive: a response to attacks on al Aqsa and to release prisoners as Hamas claimed or an Iranian plot to thwart Arab normalization with Israel. The overwhelming majority (81%; 89% in the West Bank and 69% in the Gaza Strip) said it was a “response to settler attacks on Al-Aqsa Mosque and on Palestinian citizens and for the release of prisoners from Israeli prisons;” while only 14% (5% in the West Bank and 27% in the Gaza Strip) thought it was an Iranian plot. We asked the respondents what they thought of Hamas’ decision to launch the October the 7th offensive given its outcome so far, a vast majority (72%) said it was a correct decision and 22% (12% in the West Bank and 37% in the Gaza Strip) said it was incorrect. The belief that Hamas' decision was right is higher in the West Bank (82%) compared to the Gaza Strip (57%), among men (75%) compared to women (69%), among the religious and the somewhat religious (76% and 71% respectively) compared to the non-religious (42%). It also increases among supporters of Hamas (92%) compared to supporters of Fateh and other forces (55% and 45% respectively). The reason why support for the Oct 7 attacks is high is because they believe it was justified for the reasons above. I’m not saying I agree with this only that it is a fact and a result of misinformation of which you are contributing to.
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  13408.  @PJRayment  Yes a sound argument for an argument that god exists is not possible. Agreed. If you did not suggest or imply that a jesus mythicist can be both a biblical scholar/historian and mythicist then good. No there is not universal agreement that Jesus existed. I understand you desperately need him to have as it is essential for your belief/value system. I don't even remotely care if he existed at all, it make zero difference to my ability to tell right from wrong. The vast amount of Christian biblical scholars already start or presuppose the existence of Jesus, they approach the subject already with a bias. They want to believe a Jesus character so it makes sense for them to self validate. None of the gospels are eye witness accounts they are all written anonymously and in the third person. The earliest fragments date to approximately 80CE and are written in Konic Greek, they cannot reasonably be considered first hand accounts. Finally if you have no understanding of Blasphemy laws and how they shape what someone says or writes publicly under the threat of imprisonment or death, then of course you can easily argue there has been little dissent about the existence of Jesus, because you simply ignore history and live in your world. In the real world the west was still locking people up in the 1920s for Blasphemy and fining people for Blasphemy as late as 1977. The movie "The life of Brian" was briefly banned in several countries in 1979 for Blasphemy. Stephen Fry was even investigated for Blasphemy in Ireland as late as 2017. Many western countries still have Blasphemy laws and restrictions on freedom of speech. This dissent is exactly what the authors of the bible wanted to stop as they know their story was so thin. Lastly provide the same level of physical evidence for Jesus as Alexander the great or Ramesses II. The idea there is more evidence for a Jesus character than any allenged contemporary flies in face of physical evidence. We have in existence contemporary Roman writings and sculptures of Roman emperors. Please reference me a sculpture of Jesus made when he was allegedly alive.
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  13774.  @markgriff9053  You may not think it is right but that is the law. Is your solution to allow complete unfettered content on youtube? You would be happy with graphic images of American farmers being beheaded by terrorists on the streets of Springfield Missouri? When you talk of truth, you only mean your truth not the actual truth and in your system who is going to decide the truth? I would suggest to you video imagery of the Jan 6 riot and alleged insurrection was removed from platforms because it was graphic in nature and if as you allege the originals of these videos exists they will be produced in court for either the defence or the prosecution or as evidence in the numerous criminal cases going through the courts and the other numerous investigations that are taking place and or are are to be concluded. It is not up to you to decide guilt or innocence that is the criminal justice system job. I almost always dismiss conspiracy theories as yours as I find they always have a much more rational explanation, generally complete and total incompetence. I mean really a cabal of people censoring the media, not to suggest that censorship isn't taking place it certainly is. I don't deny significant elements of the MSM in the US were anti-Trump however there were MSM elements like Fox and Newsmax that were wholly biased in favour of Trump. This clueless sheep line is a little tired though. Enjoying a few drinks or lots of drinks is always fun and I had a couple of beers last night as well so your not entirely lost.
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  13775.  @markgriff9053  So in summary you completely agree a private business in the US is allowed to conduct its business as its sees fit under its rights of freedom granted by the constitution. So realising this you then mount what is called a Gish Gallop argument interspersed with personal insults. I never insulted you I remained respectful I did call your argument foolish but you are unable to understand that difference. Of course if all of what you said was even remotely true you would be able to present this so called evidence to Republican authorities who would then start prosecutions, but you won't as it doesn't really exist. For example how exactly did you determine busloads of Antifa were allowed through by police was there a sign on the side of the bus saying we are from Antifa. Presidents both Democratic and Republican at the end of their terms routinely give Presidential pardons and it is their right under the constitution. Trump pardoned numerous people who he was involved with who had been convicted for various crimes. Are you going to allege that Trump has led a cabal of Republicans in a conspiracy to let all his friends out of prison of course not and this is what eats at the heart of the decline of the US, it has become so stupidly parochial. President Clinton has some serious personal failings however the country flourished economically over his eight years. President Bush made some very poor foreign policy decisions, but always tried his utmost to make America a safer place. I know your response to this will be President Trump has not done a single thing wrong and is the greatest president ever and he didn't lose the election, all totally one sided and utterly biased. Don't bother replying as my initial point was factually correct and I'm really not interested in engaging with someone who does not discuss in good faith and continuely resorts to personal abuse and disingenuous passes it of as banter.
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  14368. Many Aboriginal people who worked for white people did not receive their wages directly. Their bosses only gave them 'pocket money' while from 1897 to the late 1970s their wages were 'administered' for them by government or police authorities [4]. In Western Australia wages were under "total government control" until 1968 [5]. The contribution Aboriginal people made to Australia's economy with their largely unfairly paid or unpaid work is a history seldom told. "Aboriginal people are often denigrated as being a drain on the nation's economy, but if you look at the facts it's actually the other way around, with Aboriginal labour being used to build the economy without due payment or even recognition," says Dennis Eggington, Chief Executive of the Aboriginal Legal Service of Western Australia [5]. "It's a terrible injustice that has been perpetrated over many decades, with the truth hidden from the official version of Australian history." There is no doubt in my mind that this country's strong economy was born on the backs of Aboriginal labour. — Rachael Sievert, WA Green Senator [6] When I was in school, I was told that Australia developed on the sheep's back. I now know that it developed on the backs of thousands of Aboriginal men, women and children. — Gary Highland, National Director, Australians for Native Title and Reconciliation (ANTaR) [7] Between 1916 and 1960 money of Aboriginal workers from Victoria was withheld as punishment, with wages and contracts being controlled by the Aboriginal Protection Board [8]. Not every worker was affected though. Today we talk about 'stolen wages' because in many cases Aboriginal people did not receive parts or all of these wages. Historians estimate that the state of Queensland alone owes around $500 million to Aboriginal people [4]. Some individuals are owed close to half a million dollars in today's terms [9]. According to the dictionary, if someone "works under duress and without payment" they are considered slaves. The stolen wages are always about the slavery Australia denies until today. Documents exist showing that governments knew exactly what they were doing, and that they were breaking the law[6][7]. Investigations reveal that Aboriginal wages were misappropriated by governments to cover their own liabilities, including the cost of removing Aboriginal children. This means Aboriginal people were unwittingly paying for the removal of their own children. [10] Lawyers know that stolen wages claimants' demands rest on legal right and not on the uncertain and contestable ground of moral right [9], however governments show excellence in delaying and rejecting claims. Time works against Aboriginal people as they grow older and die without receiving compensation. Source: Stolen Wages - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/economy/stolen-wages/stolen-wages#
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  14576.  @codyaucoin3412  Jeez you chucked a few things out there. 1) acid rain. Acid rain is a real phenomenon caused by sulfer dioxide and nitrogen oxides being emitted into air. This happens naturally through volcano's but mostly since the industrial revolution by burning fossil fuels. 2) ozone depletion. This again is a real phenomenon but fortunately has been largely addressed by the Montreal protocol which significantly reduced the CFC entering then atmosphere. The hole in the ozone layer has started to repair. This is actual evidence that human behaviour effects the atmosphere and that a change in human behaviour can repair it. Thankyou for pointing out this valuable lesson for humankind. 3) Y2K yep that was most definitely overblown. 4) Arctic ice. I am not aware of any scientific paper that ever claimed there would be no ice there by 2010, but am happy to read and reference you have. 5) Polar bears. Same again as with point 4. I am aware of grave concerns about the species and there is a concern they may become extinct by 2100 but not 2010. 5) Countries under water. Which countries and could you be more specific. Sea level rise is an observable phenomenon and has been accurately recorded since the late 18th century. Approximately 22cm. If it continues then yes certain current land masses will become uninhabitable. Are you doubting this almost universally accepted science. That's fine but you will have to provide some evidence for your claim. I believe I have addressed all your points, nothing really to get to worked up over. All we need to do basically is to reduce our carbon emissions in a sensible sustainable manner.
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  15137.  @buildmotosykletist1987  The increase in wind power capacity and the operational start of the Olkiluoto 3 nuclear power plant have played a pivotal role in making Finland self-sufficient in electricity since spring. Despite this stabilization, short-term price fluctuations have been greater than before, primarily due to the growing share of wind power in the energy mix. Interestingly, 2023 saw a record number of hours with negative electricity prices, totaling 467 hours. The most expensive day for electricity was November 21, with an average daily price nearing €300 per megawatt-hour. Conversely, due to incorrect data provided by a Norwegian company, prices dropped significantly three days later, reaching more than €200 below zero. Monthly price variations throughout the year indicate a transition from the crisis to a more stable market. For instance, in March, the cost per megawatt-hour was €74, while pre-crisis prices typically ranged from just over €20 to under €50. By May, the average price had dropped below €30. July and September also saw lower prices, with December being the most expensive month, averaging around €76 per megawatt-hour. Pekka Salomaa, Director of Energy Markets at Energiateollisuus ry, highlights the significant changes in the Finnish electricity system. "The growth in wind power has been the most critical factor influencing these price variations," Salomaa explains. Alongside these fluctuations, a survey conducted by Taloustutkimus indicates a substantial increase in the number of market-linked electricity contracts, which are estimated to have doubled to about 30% of all agreements. Official figures from the Energy Authority are expected next summer. Salomaa notes that the evolving electricity market rewards vigilant consumers. "Flexible market electricity customers benefit from these fluctuations by monitoring hourly prices and timing their consumption accordingly. This not only benefits them but also helps stabilize the market by smoothing out the highest and lowest prices," he adds. This shift towards a more dynamic and responsive electricity market in Finland is seen as a positive step towards a more sustainable and economically viable energy future. So it’s just not as simple as you made out.
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  15315.  @saintsone7877  Here is an explanation of the constitution. This explains why it is different to political representation The Constitution is the legal and political foundation document of Australia. It was drafted following a series of constitutional conventions held in the 1890s and was passed by the British Parliament in 1900. It took effect on 1 January 1901. The Constitution is the Australian government’s ‘rulebook’. It establishes Australia as a federation and defines the national law-making powers of the Commonwealth or federal government. Every law passed by the federal Parliament must be empowered by the Australian Constitution—it must be based on what is a called a head of power set down in the Constitution, which is divided into sections. The Constitution distributes power between the Commonwealth and the States and Territories and sets out the roles of the federal Parliament and the executive (the government of the day). It empowers federal courts and establishes the High Court of Australia as the ultimate decision maker on questions about the meaning of the Constitution. It is essentially a structural plan for a federal system of government. By allocating and also limiting government powers, the Constitution protects certain rights and freedoms, but it is not a charter of human rights. The Australian Constitution, like all foundation documents, also says something about the values of our society. The drafters of the Constitution wanted to make sure it could be amended over time, but only with the clear consent of the Australian people. This consent is given through a referendum, when all Australians registered on the electoral roll cast a vote. Under section 128, a majority of Australian voters and a majority of voters in a majority of States (that is, in at least four out of the six States) must approve any proposed amendment. This is known as a double majority. People cast their votes by writing either a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ in response to specific questions put to them.
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  15642.  @jaya9753  Yep fairly shallow and a deliberate strawman arguement easy to see through, much as the idea that we just keep going burning carbon to our hearts content to make electricity. I lost count on how many strawman arguments you threw in there. I certainly never suggested the cost of manufacturing is carbon free and of course all private industry is in the business of making money. No climate scientist has ever suggested that the warming of the planet by 3 degrees in a relatively short period will destroy the planet, but it will make it unliveable in certain parts. Only uniformed public and media have made this claim. Yes the planet has been warmer however this change in temperature was over millions of years. We absolutely know since the mid 19th century the properties of CO2 and how along with methane and others it is a greenhouse gas. Solar cells are 100% renewable it is just not an economical option at this point in time. We are and have been and continue to bulldoze millions of hectares every year, for food and mining I'm sure the area for solar generation areas can be accommodated, and vast quantities of solar generation is from roof tops anyway. As the the reflection of solar panels you got me there as I have not heard this before but generally speaking solar panels absorb the heat from the sun that's how they make electricity I really don't know how much is reflected back, and I will read into this. The overwhelming opinion of economists and scientists is burning coal is expensive and dirty and there are cheaper cleaner ways to create electricity. We will of course continue to pump a certain amount of carbon into the atmosphere in our manufacturing process but even this can be mitigated to certain extent with the use of green hydrogen, burning coal is just so 19th century thinking. It is 2021.
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  15763.  @chrismo2922  Average global sea levels have been rising since 1880 (the earliest available robust estimates), largely in response to increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and the consequent changes in the global climate. Global average sea levels have risen by around 25 cm since the late 19th century. Half of this rise has occurred since 1970. There are two main processes behind long-term sea-level rises that are a direct result of a warming climate. Firstly, as the ocean has warmed, the total volume of the ocean has increased through the thermal expansion of water. Thermal expansion has contributed about one third of the sea-level rise observed globally. Secondly, water has been added to the oceans as a result of melting land-based ice. Ice loss from glaciers and polar ice sheets, together with changes in the amount of water stored on the land, contribute two thirds of global sea-level rise. The rate of sea-level rise since the mid-19th century has been larger than the average rate during the previous 2,000 years. Global-average sea levels are currently (from 1993 to 2019) rising at around 3.5 mm per year, faster than the 1.5 mm per year during the 20th century. Rates of sea-level rise are not uniform around the globe and vary from year to year. Since 1993, the rates of sea-level rise to the north and southeast of Australia have been significantly higher the global average, and rates of sea-level rise on other coasts of the continent have been closer to the global average. Melting ice from Greenland, Antarctica and glaciers due to anthropogenic climate change has been the main cause of global sea-level rise since the early 1990s. Natural variability of the climate system also contributes to variations in sea level. For example, global sea level fell during the intense La Niña event of 2010–2011, partly due to the exceptionally high rainfall over land that resulted in floods in Australia, northern South America, and Southeast Asia. This was compounded by the long-term storage of water across inland Australia. However, recent observations show that sea levels have rebounded in line with the long-term trend in rising sea levels.
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  15938.  @CA-cv7te  Yes I understand the descriptor Judeo-Christian and my apologies if I inadvertently used it incorrectly it is a recent term used by Christian apologists to describe a set of values they claim falsely are the values behind modern western culture. With regards to slavery absolutely Ancient Greece had slaves as did just about every culture and is 100% a value or elucidation of the Judeo-Christian ethic. As I pointed out it was only the secular influence of the enlightenment and some generous re-interpretation of the bible by some Christians that allowed laws against slavery to be passed. Slavery is still a thing and there are an estimated 40 million people in slavery today. It still remains a perfectly OK practice in the bible. It is simply ignored by decent Christians. 2500 years ago an earthquakes were blamed on God in blind faith, now days through the use of science we know exactly what causes earthquakes. This is an axample of how as we are evolving and learning more. The faith part of Western civilisation is being reduced continuely and the reason component just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I agree Modern Western Civilisation is the best, but it is in despite of religion, not because of it, as explained previously through the philosophy of Ancient Greece some of which was secular in nature not the teachings of the bible. Interestingly you mention the Taliban and Theocracies, right throughout the bible it generally advocates for theocracy and at the height of Christianity's powers in the Middle Ages that's exactly the type of systems that were in power. Democracy as a concept again came out of Ancient Greek philosophy, 500 years before Judaism and wasn't really put into practice till the late 18th century CE, 1800 years after the establishment of Christianity.
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  16146. Dot painting is one of the most recognized forms of Aboriginal art. People think it is just simple dots, animals, and fine lines but it is much more than that. Aboriginal artists use symbols, images, and meticulous rules to create dot paintings that tell stories. If a story has historical or sacred information, an artist needs permission before they can paint it. Dot paintings are the visual stories of the Aboriginal people. Historically, Aboriginal people of central and western Australia created “paintings” on the sand using rocks, flowers, sticks, seeds, and feathers. These paintings were full of sacred symbols, images, and meaning. As elders created the sand paintings, they sang songs and told stories about Aboriginal history, religion, traditions, and beliefs. Sand paintings were temporary, but eventually they became modern day dot paintings. A more permanent form of sand painting was creating the work on tree bark. Painting on bark was first done on shelters, but in the 1920s Aboriginal artists were encouraged to recreate the paintings from shelters on small pieces of tree bark that could be sold to tourists and collectors. Click here to see Aboriginal artist Banduk Marika talk about her bark painting. In the 1970s, European artists helped Aboriginal artists turn the sacred symbols and images from sand paintings into dots which could be painted on canvas, canvas board or sheeting. After that, works could be sold and shipped all over the world. Today, dot paintings appear on Aboriginal instruments, everyday objects, buildings, vehicles, and all types of tourist objects.
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