Comments by "Winnetou17" (@Winnetou17) on "Louis Rossmann"
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I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, doing the right thing will be very expensive in terms of money, time, effort etc.
I don't know how the justice systems everywhere are getting more and more complicated, bloated to the extreme, that only people who have YEARS and YEARS of study can make sense of all the rules, and yet, the results is that the justice is a total joke. It does work in normal cases. But whenever is a little entity vs a big powerful entity, you have absolutely no guarantee of even the slightest fair and just and overly long, time-consuming, MONEY-consuming trial.
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Hey Louis, thanks and congrats for all the work you do, especially this thing: contributing for a common sense law to be passed, aka working for a better world.
Now, I feel the need to express some things:
1) Even though things like the right to repair don't have much sense to be something to be taken into account just on a local scale, I do feel that the senator is entitled to ask anyone from where it is, even if it sounds totally dumb. For all they care maybe the people from Nebraska actually don't want this law, but somehow a lot of people from other states come to plead for it. Surely there can be nebraskians found to come and plead so this is no longer an issue.
1.a) When the senator had nothing to good to say about that satisfied customer from Nebraska... I see that as perfectly normal. He is not there to congratulate anybody. It's normal, given the time constraints, to only ask/talk only about the things that he doesn't like/know etc. I'd say, if all he had to say/point was a stupid argument, then all for the better, as that seems that everything else was ok, and that stupid argument can be cleared with ease.
2) In general I think that in order for a law to be passed, or at least for it to pass further, after this kind of talk (I don't know exactly how it works in US, I'm from Romania), the senators DO have to ensure that all aspects are taken into account. You can think of them to be the devil's advocate. However a dumb question might be asked, you guys should be prepared to answer it so the thing you're pleading for is without a benefit of a doubt good/better for all people, especially law and politics people. Think of them being like "ok, so you want this law that seems pretty common sense. But, you know there's big companies (or anyone else for that matter) that might not want that, and we're not technical enough to call bullshit on their part. How will you tackle this?" Aka is your job to provide as much evidence as possible that this will have no secondary effects or unforseen situations or abusable situations or affect unrelated parties etc. And that the things affected are with a reason (repair right will lower Apple's income, but will provide the consumer their right of ownership over the bought part or their human right dunno). It does sound a little like you'll have to do their work, but ... such is life.
3) As AkolythArathok said in this comment section, there needs to be a more serious pose. Talking about Repair Family is kind of distracting from the point aswell. Or things like "hey I have here a customer which is so happy, yay!". You actually did her job here with very clearly and shortly/on point saying "we do data recovery for which the customer has no option to do at the manufacturer, for any amount of money". That is how I think a point should be made.
All in all, it was kind of sad, but totally not surprising to see this. And I have to congratulate for your speech. It was very on point, with clear arguments and examples. Now all you have to do for next year is to have everybody supporting this be as efficient and articulate as you :) And have everybody be able to totally demolish all (dumb) counterarguments presented here. And as you very well observed, to have this lobbying prior to the talk. The talk is just a showcase.
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One silver lining that I can think of, about all of this, is that if Apple spends so much effort into making these so much of a closed garden, at one point this effort will simply eat too much into their revenue. That is, it will cost them a lot on the manpower needed to design those things. And the things themselves will make the product cheaper / consume more / weigh more something like that. Well, so far it wasn't enough, but with time, maybe the competition will rise, and by virtue of simply not having to invest that much of everything into closing the garden, they will have the superior product.
It's like hardened products vs normal consumer products. The hardened products are always more expensive, while at the same time having less performance. Well, at least in the normal conditions. In extreme weather for example, a hardened product will work, while a normal consumer one won't. In this case, Apple will have a hardened product, but not against natural elements, but against being repaired. And, I hope, at one point it will simply be inferior in performance or price/performance.
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@nymphetts True, I won't hold my breath either.
Truth to be told, in some aspects, Apple have the superior product. Be it by design, performance or simply the ecosystem and the idea that things simply work.
Hopefully, with the rise of Linux on desktops, maybe the superior part of the software will vanish as really good things will start to be supported for Linux too.
And on the hardware side, both AMD and Intel made a comeback and have pretty good CPUs and APUs. Still have to catch up on performance/watt, but given that in general the performance needs haven't risen that much, the things you can do on 15W or lower have risen regardless.
Apple will have another home run with M3 as it will be the first 3nm processor in the laptop space and again it will be significantly more powerful at the same very low power consumption. This is the same that they had with M1, first 5nm on the market. Now that AMD will come with 5nm, they will actually be better than M1 and M2, but that means nothing for the normal consumer, when AMD/Intel come with the good product almost 2 years later. Hopefully M3 and M4 will have better competition.
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You can't call something the "greatest OS of all time" if it doesn't work in the majority of devices (phones in this case) on the current landscape. Fight me!
For real though, I want it, but don't want to buy a Pixel phone, neither new nor SH. And saying it's supported just on Pixel because it has extra hardware security features - bullshit! I mean, I don't challenge that it's not, but I want to point out that it's a very stupid argument. Maybe in alpha and pre alpha stages it would be ok. But on the full release, it's MUCH MUCH more important to have people onboard and even with just like 90% of the privacy and 50% of the security (and still much better than what the original phone has) than to have only one line of phones that limit the exposure to 10% of the potential users. That's bad prioritisation at this point. At least if they care more about raising the global security and privacy.
It's not an easy decision to make, and I can't fault them, I'm just saying what I think would be more important (maybe a bit in a harsh matter, but, meh). I do think a lot of people would rather actually be able to use Graphene on their current phone, without the full security suite, than to have the Graphene OS team develop 3 security features extra, but keep the Pixel limitation (which means that people have to wait more until they try it, or switch to a Pixel phone - and maybe lose some features, like Louis does now)
Other than that, I agree, it's awesome! Won't try it on a Pixel, sorry. Can't wait for it to become more popular and branch into other models, hopefully Fairphone and Pinephone.
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A minor correction - what Louis described as "valuing a broken Macbook" is actually "valuing FIXING broken Macbooks". I get the dramatisation, and in the end it doesn't change THAT MUCH the discourse, but there is a non-trivial distinction between a simple object that is trivial to replace (and thus insane to be obsessed about in this comparison) and an occupation,hobby,habit maybe even an ideal (hard to describe exactly).
And I do think it matters to underline the distinction. I don't think (I hope) that many people would value a commodity object over something like their own health. (well, some might, either from a lot of emotional attachment or if the object is very expensive, but then the object is no longer commodity IMO). However, there's a lot of people who do identify themselves with their work, what they do, what they provide and who might prioritise that over their personal health.
The main idea to take from this is that if you really care about that work, about what you do, what you (can) provide, for the longer term, then you have to take care of your health, otherwise you might "fall" too early and not be able to do what you love most.
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