Comments by "MRA" (@yassassin6425) on "BuzzFeed Unsolved Network"
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A contrail does not "evaporate" - it sublimates. In relation to this their duration is entirely dependent upon the prevailing atmospheric conditions, specifically the interrelationship between temperature, relative humidity and vapour pressure. Contrary to your claim, a contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. In conditions of supersaturation in respect to ice, the aircraft merely precipitates the trail where 99% of the ice budget is drawn from the available atmospheric moisture. This is why contrails can not only expand and spread, but increase in mass becoming indistinguishable from cirrus clouds which is actually all that they are. Contrails have been observed and measured lasting up to a day.
Cloud seeding has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the aircraft trails that you are witnessing. Cloud seeding aims to introduce additional nuclei to existing masses (cumulus and stratiform) that are already conducive to precipitation, in an attempt to induce rainfall in a designated area or intensify it. This is precisely why it is conducted at altitudes between 2,000 - 6,500 feet, where the aircraft trails that you are witnessing are formed in the tropopause and stratosphere, six to eight miles above your head. The results are actually erratic and the very science/efficacy behind it questionable. Nonetheless there are private sector organisations that advertise their services online in addition to state sponsored schemes in China and the UAE. In spite of this, it is by no means a widespread practice. It is typically conducted via retrofitted light aircraft using rack mounted flares releasing silver iodide - but may also use pylons, rockets and modified artillery shells. It is highly unlikely that you have ever seen its deployment and it does not produce lasting visible trails.
Stratospheric Aerosol Injection has nothing to do with cloud seeding or aircraft contrails. "Admitted process"? SAI is a hypothetical research concept that has never been hidden, secretive or out of the public domain. How do you admit to something that isn't denied? Given that SAI doesn't exist beyond research paper and mathematical modelling, would not form a trail or involve commercial jet aircraft, would take place at double the altitude of the trails that you are seeing; that there is no aircraft on the planet that could currently loft the requisite materials (which have yet to be determined) to the required altitudes (65,000 - 70,000 ft) and has nothing whatsoever to do with cloud seeding or the subject under discussion in this video... may I ask you, what precisely is your point?
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@CoreySkurray
"in the vietnam war they sprayed these chemicals from planes"
"These chemicals"? What "chemicals"? what spraying? To clarify, Operation Popeye was a cloud seeding initiative - this is still practiced today, although not in military conflict. The objective is to provide additional nucleation into clouds that are already conducive to precipitation (cumulus or stratiform masses) in an attempt to either prematurely induce precipitation or intensify it in one place. Because it needs to infuse rain bearing clouds, it is typically practiced at comparatively low altitudes between 2.000 and 6.500ft. Also, it does not generally involve "spraying", (although saline solutions and liquid propane have been used). Rather, it employs light aircraft retrofitted with silver iodide flare racks although artillery shells, rockets and dispersal pylons/towers are also utilised. Cloud seeding does not result in any lasting visible trail. Worth also mentioning, that the science of cloud seeding is very dubious - the results inconclusive and its very efficacy questionable.
"and what people are saying is that planes today are spraying chemicals so how can you say it has nothing to do with it, it is the same thing"
That's no different to saying crop dusting exists, therefore chemtrails.
To clarify, what "people are saying" is based upon the chemtrail hoax which is predicated upon the misidentification of aircraft contrails. The contrails that you are observing are formed in the tropopause and stratosphere between six to eight miles above your head. Any "spraying" at such altitudes would be completely pointless.
Contrails have nothing whatsoever to do with cloud seeding operations, which although practiced by private sector organisations that freely advertise their services online, in addition to state sponsored schemes in countries such as the UAE and China, is not at all widespread. It is highly unlikely that you have ever seen it in progress.
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"these compounds along with which Aluminum oxide destroys our vegetation and human life as we speak, these chemtrails they are being sprayed into our skies for the last twenty years"
No one is spraying. The chemtrails conspiracy theory is simply predicated upon the misidentification of persistent contrails.
"con trails usually do not last that long, at best they melt with couple of minutes"
A contrail may be short lived, persistent, persistent spreading or it may not necessarily form at all. The governing factors are temperature, relative humidity, pressure and the interrelationship between them. Also, contrails do not "melt", they sublimate back into their gaseous phase, invisible water vapour.
"and are not that long of a trail, it’s usually couple of hundred yards at best"
A contrail could be a couple of hundred kilometers. At the altitude that commercial aircraft cruise, the cold air may also be humid and at a suitably low vapour pressure a contrail will endure because it is unable to sublimate into its gaseous phase - as I explained, water vapour. In conditions of supersaturation in respect to ice, then the trail will not only linger, but will expand and increase in mass where the aircraft has merely precipitated it, 99% of the ice budget is drawn from the available moisture in the atmosphere. Now think about it - even in the case of your few hundred yard contrail, do you have any comprehension of the weight of material contained in such a trail and the MTOW of the aircraft depositing it? Contrails can be over 100 miles long and can expand and spread becoming indistinguishable from regular cirrus (which is ultimately what they are). What chemical can do that, and what aircraft has the capacity to deposit them? To question the science of contrail formation is to question the science of a cloud.
"with multiple lines of white color smoke"
You are referring to irisation caused by refraction and very common with aerodynamic contrails.
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??? What about i?. Geoengineering has never been secretive or denied - it is well known public knowledge- and no aspect of it has anything whatsoever to do with aircraft contrails. For some reason chemtrail believers use it as false equivalence in some bizarre attempt to justify their belief in this hoax.
Geoengineering consists of two main divisions - 1/ GGR (Greenhouse Gas Removal) or negative emissions technology as it is sometimes termed and 2/ Solar Radiation Management. Some branches of GGR are underway - for example biochar, aforestation and carbon sequestering. Ocean Fertilisation is a proposal - and one that has some concerns due to possible side effects. SRM meanwhile, with the exception of ground based albedo modification, is entirely hypothetical. One branch of this, Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, is regularly mentioned by chemtrail believers due to false equivalence by the perpetrators of this conspiracy theory in a lame attempt to validate their hoax. SAI is intended to replicate the cooling effect of volcanic aerosols and those heterogeneously produced in the Junge Layer. SAI has yet to graduate beyond mathematical modelling and research proposal. A small scale trail called SCoPEx, involving a steerable balloon launched 20km into the stratosphere releasing a few litres of water to evaluate perturbation (and subsequently maybe 2 or 3kgs of calcium carbonate to establish reflectivity) has been postponed multiple times.
Did you actually bother watching Brennan's voluntary address to the CFN the theme being 'Transnational Threats to Global Security' - or was it the ridiculous title containing the word 'chemtrails' that hoodwinked you? Brennan discussed future issues that may result in global instability. An SAI program, if ever implemented, could generate conflicts and security threats if misused and has significant geopolitical ramifications - in addition to international policy and governance, the unknowns surrounding environmental impact. It is within the remit of the CIA to consider a range of initiatives and their associated potential future international implications and threats, including science oriented concepts. Brennan was discussing SRM in the future abstract sense from the analytical perspective of a Political Environmental Social and Technological analytical framework in addition to other hypothetical research proposals, emergent/novel technologies and concepts that may however never be put into practice. He even talks about anti ageing.
Brennan wasn't advocating the use of SAI or saying that it exists, on the contrary, he is warning about the implications of the misuse of it. Please cite the precise passage in which John Brennan "admits" that geoengineering, (or chemtrails as the deceptive titles of these videos would have you believe), are currently in progress. I can provide you with a full transcription of the speech if that helps?
Like I said, SAI doesn't exist beyond paper proposals and computer modelling. In the highly unlikely event that it would ever be attempted, it would not form a visible or lasting trail or involve commercial jet aircraft and would take place at double the altitude of the trails that you are seeing. There is currently no aircraft on the planet that could currently loft the requisite materials (which have yet to be determined) to the required altitudes (65,000 - 70,000 ft). More tellingly, in addition to the environmental unknowns, cost and logistical problems, the sheer impossibility of international governance mean that Stratospheric Aerosol Injection will never get off the ground - unless you count the SCoPEx project that I referred to.
Cue the inevitable abuse.
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