Comments by "Piccalilli Pit" (@piccalillipit9211) on "What real world benefits to computer gaming?" video.

  1. IT MASSIVELY INCREASES ADHD You are 700% MORE likely to have ADHD as an adult if you are a gamer in your teens Also - Ukraine are using 15 Y/O teenage gamers to fly the drones - they are very very good at it - but there is an ethical question here - cos they ARE killing Russians, which is good - but are they child combatants...???
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  2.  @andrewillsley6595  - WRONG
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  3.  @BraddersVee  - Yes but you will have to dig for it. "Andrew D. Huberman is an American neuroscientist and associate professor in the Department of Neurobiology at the Stanford University School" has a podcast, he has several that tackle ADHD and in one of them he cited the paper that has this research in it.
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  4.  @mcarpenter2917  Yes but you will have to dig for it. "Andrew D. Huberman is an American neuroscientist and associate professor in the Department of Neurobiology at the Stanford University School" has a podcast, he has several that tackle ADHD and in one of them he cited the paper that has this research in it. "suspect the massive increase of cases is just a medicalization of childhood" this is definitely a factor. there is a huge amount of evidence that behavioural problems and mental health problems expend to fill the diagnosis created for them in the DSM-5. Personally, I hate the DSM-5 with a passion - I believe it to be a tool of the American pharma industry to prescribe expensive drugs and nothing more... In the 1800 ADHD did not exist - why? 1) there was no diagnosis for it for starters 2) a kid with lots of energy was given a hammer and told to bang out horse shoes for a few hours, they were lauded as a great worker 3) almost all mental health problems are actually a "inability to fit in with desired socially expected behaviour" so ADHD was NOT a thing before you expected kids to sit at a desk all day in school, as soon as you did - you had "ADHD" . Interestingly - here in Bulgaria the kids do exercises in the sun outside every morning before class, to work off some of that energy and allow them to sit still... So I would argue, as would Huberman, that ADHD in kids is not really a "thing". HOWEVER, my comment was "You are 700% MORE likely to have ADHD as an adult if you are a gamer in your teens" the inability to concentrate and have a decent attention span as an adult is a genuine problem in modern society. Is it an illness - in my opinion no, its a dopamine receptor downregulation problem. This is why gaming is so problematic, its FREE unearned dopamine...
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  5.  @andrewillsley6595  - I'm literally an author on psychology writing a book called "The Dopamine Paradox" EDIT - copied form my other answer: In the 1800 ADHD did not exist - why? 1) there was no diagnosis for it for starters 2) a kid with lots of energy was given a hammer and told to bang out horse shoes for a few hours, they were lauded as a great worker 3) almost all mental health problems are actually a "inability to fit in with desired socially expected behaviour" so ADHD was NOT a thing before you expected kids to sit at a desk all day in school, as soon as you did - you had "ADHD" . Interestingly - here in Bulgaria the kids do exercises in the sun outside every morning before class, to work off some of that energy and allow them to sit still... So I would argue, as would Huberman, that ADHD in kids is not really a "thing". HOWEVER, my comment was "You are 700% MORE likely to have ADHD as an adult if you are a gamer in your teens" the inability to concentrate and have a decent attention span as an adult is a genuine problem in modern society. Is it an illness - in my opinion no, its a dopamine receptor downregulation problem. This is why gaming is so problematic, its FREE unearned dopamine... ---§--- And there is your problem - its FREE UNEARNED DOPAMINE. It is downregulating the dopamine receptors and this is the core of "ADHD" in kids. It keep them calm cos the hyperactivity if self-medicating with dopamine, give them computer games and they get dopamine so they stay still. The same reason as giving them amphetamine makes them sit still.
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  6.  @andrewillsley6595  - SHUT UP - he literally cites every single paper he references. I'm not interested in your BS personal crusade. Keep taking your pills.
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  7.  @djbogz1921  - a hell of a lot of people that do gaming don't have ADHD. The same as a lot of people that have ADHD - like me - have never done gaming. But your chances of having ADHD as an adult are significantly increased if you did a lot of gaming as a teenager [through this mechanism - Gaming feds your brain with dopamine, this has the effect of downregulating the dopamine receptors, therefore, causing dopamine-seeking behaviour that manifests as ADHD]
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  8.  @mcarpenter2917  - You can never show causation in a sociological study cos you can never control for all variables, so any study of this kind is a correlation. "I'd bet you'd also find a negative correlation with family wealth" I have absolutely no information on this, I have read/listened to hundreds of papers on ADHD and i can't recall anyone studying this. "My theory is, if you give children shitty childhoods you end up with shitty adults." 100% - 100,000% YES. Im British, i now live in Bulgaria, the amount of effort, money and time society here puts into children is unbelievable to a British person. They consider putting your kid in child care to be akin to child abuse here. If your child is under school age they deliver hot fresh food to your door every day. You get 2 years of maternity leave if you have a kid. Children are society's responsibility, not just the parents, you take your toddler with you to the gym the receptionist will look after them. When you ask them about it the standard reply is along the lines of "if you abuse the children, you don't look after them - you end up with a sick and twisted society in 20, 30 years" Having lived here 13 years i now 100% agree "if you give children shitty childhoods you end up with shitty adults."
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  9.  @andrewillsley6595  - Im sorry - you can think i am rude as hell if you want - But I just don't have time to go through hundreds of pages of handwritten notes to find the reference to a single study. I'm not writing a book about gaming, its a tiny side note. but lets be clear - I never said computer gaming causes ADHD. What causes ADHD is having a dopamine regulation/sensitivity problem. ADHD is a behaviour. That behaviour is a dopamine-seeking behaviour. For whatever reason, the brain has either a lack of dopamine OR an insensitivity to dopamine. Almost always the latter. The running around, the jumping from one thing to the next, the arguing, the thrill-seeking, the doom scrolling, the playing games - all of these are dopamine-providing activities. If you give that person dopamine they will calm down, cos they have the dopamine they need. You can administer this dopamine by giving them the precursor - Levodopa, by giving them amphetamine like Ritalin, or by letting them play Call of Duty. So - computer games do NOT cause ADHD, but what they do is they re-enforce this dopamine downregulation cycle. The more dopamine you have, the less sensitive to dopp[amine your brain becomes, the more you need dopamine. And they are a very strong re-enforcer of this vicious cycle. "The dopamine Paradox" is the more you have ADHD, the worse the problem, the less likely you are to be able to control the problem. Cos the way you control ADHD most effectively is TO LIVE A VERY BORING LIFE. You need to reset your dopamine receptors. Im not writing a book on the science of the neurological system, Im writing a behavioural handbook to managing ADHD in adults. QUOTE: (that would only work if they were not hyper to begin with and then you gave them computer games- after a perod of time on games- they then became hyper) - they literally do, and that period of time is over months and years the free [or none traditionally obtained] dopamine downregulates the receptors and makes them more hyper on the long timescale. Thats the point. The easiest way to "cure" ADHD is to lock someone in a cabin in the woods for 2 months with no electronics or anything - not even electric light. They get up when the sun comes up, they are bored all day long and they go to bed when the sun goes down. A tiny number this will not help - and they have a dopamine PRODUCTION problem, but this is very rare. OK - I have to work now. Bye.
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  10.  @djbogz1921  "Everything seems to give kids adhd" YES - modern life gives kids, and now adults, ADHD copied form my other answer: In the 1800 ADHD did not exist - why? 1) there was no diagnosis for it for starters 2) a kid with lots of energy was given a hammer and told to bang out horse shoes for a few hours, they were lauded as a great worker 3) almost all mental health problems are actually a "inability to fit in with desired socially expected behaviour" so ADHD was NOT a thing before you expected kids to sit at a desk all day in school, as soon as you did - you had "ADHD" . Interestingly - here in Bulgaria the kids do exercises in the sun outside every morning before class, to work off some of that energy and allow them to sit still... ADHD is what you get when you pump a kids brain full of dopamine and them expect them to sit still for hours and hours. "You can't blame the industry for that" Im not blaming them for anything. It is a decision society has to take. China has made gaming only available for 1 hour a day for kids under 18. They can see the issues it is causing in their society and they are regulating it. Its NOT the game companies' job to do that.
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  11.  @mcarpenter2917  Just been sent this: WEDNESDAY, March 4, 2020 (HealthDay News) -- Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and other learning disabilities are more common in families locked into a cycle of poverty, a new U.S. government report suggests. Nearly 19% of children living in families below the federal poverty level had a diagnosis of ADHD or a learning disability, compared with about 13% of families at or above the poverty level, the new report shows. A family of four with a household income of $26,200 is living at the 2020 federal poverty level. Children with parents who have a high school education or less were also more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD or a learning disability -- 15%, compared with under 13% of those with parents who went on to higher education. That's particularly true of white children. About 21% of white kids with parents who have a high school diploma or less have a diagnosis of ADHD or learning disability, compared with 16% of black children and 11.5% of Hispanic children...
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