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Comments by "Donovan" (@donovan4222) on "Sam Debates Caller On Support For Ukraine" video.
Caller is 100% wrong and completely clueless to US motives and danger of their involvement, or the actual history of the situation
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“Basically every European country” you mean America and its vassal states in Western Europe that they have absorbed into NATO and/or occupied militarily since the end of WW2? That’s about as impressive as Belarus supporting Russia.
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Ah yes the “humanity” of turning Ukraine into Afghanistan to weaken Russia
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So how should Russia weaken the US to slow the spread of American fascism?
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@TylerMarkRichardson Not the US “might” have exterior motives, their motive is to weaken Russia using Ukrainian bodies. The US isn’t helping Ukraine, they are turning it into Afghanistan.
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“Get Russia out of Ukraine completely or as much as possible” So then you’re advocating for a prolonged war that turns Ukraine into Afghanistan, because Ukraine hasn’t even been in control of the eastern regions of the country for 8+ years, and that was before the entire Russian military was there.
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All of those things are objectively true. Ending the war is what peace means, defense contractors obviously do live the war, and arming/training Ukrainian proxy forces does prolong the conflict, especially since the U.S. is doing that while simultaneously undermining negotiations.
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@jonathansurovell3516 Ah so Ukraine was in a state of peace when Russia invaded and started bombing Zelenskyy’s military? Notice how you sound just like a Russian apologist when you do apologism for the Iraq war, a brutal offensive invasion of a country that never attacked the US that killed upwards of 1 million civilians from the bombing and fallout afterwards. So how do you think Russia should prevent American victories in the countries they are occupying/invading? Weird how you don’t seem to talk about this, especially since it’s your own country doing the crimes. What should Russia do to stop the US invasions of Iraq, Syria, Yemen, etc.?
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I don’t agree at all, I think ray gun is falling for the same propaganda that the US uses to justify everything else they’ve done in Eastern Europe for decades
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@Baelor-Breakspear You realize that war started in part because Ukrainian nationalists were passing anti Russian language laws that east Ukrainians did not like? East Ukrainians speak Russian, you call them an “enemy of the country” then act surprised when a civil war starts as if west Ukraine and the US do nothing wrong and East Ukraine/Russia aren’t allowed to have any legitimate grievances. How should Russia/East Ukrainians of responsed to Euromaidan when the elected government that they supported was violently overthrown?
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The media is the reason that any American cares about what’s happening in Ukraine in the first place. How many Americans know about the war in Yemen or the Tigray war?
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I’m 100% against turning Ukraine into Afghanistan to weaken Russia
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Ok so what should China and Russia do to prevent the US’s fascists invasions of Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Syria, etc?
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So why aren’t you supporting Russia sending missiles, weapons, training and funding to the Houthi’s to defend Yemen? I haven’t once heard a Ukraine bio guy mention that. What should China and Russia do to stop these barbaric US invasions?
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