Comments by "Ameni0" (@Layde36) on "Second Thought"
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@junjunsnow1139 the way i see it any system will have people at the top even communism and even if people think that they will get replaced the power they held at that time does cause enough damages if say some rogue elements pop up, i mean in any system there has to be someone who would have to be leading the cultural and social economic ideas that people share, it was the basis for any system even kings have to lead their people at some point or say kings who will be replaced i.e a tenure, let's just say we bring the change yet we do have to choose people who will speak for us in this case the second thought channel which is implementing these ideas, i mean he talks about being against western interests yet he's also against Russia or China for their systems which he claims to be capitalist which makes it hard to take him seriously especially when China and Russia companies are state owned and they usually have nationalized their resources and adopted a hybridized system based on communism and capitalism i believe, communism does create more middle classes yet does not allow people to progress into upper classes as those people running the system well would want to preserve their status, overall there should be a proper scientific and research based understanding without any bias from sources for systems like these to be implemented properly, the west has been basing it's system to be at the top and even if it was communist it still would cause wars and prevent any competitors from gaining equal position or surpass the US, i feel that system implementation in current times is secondary especially when countries are having this cold war which they will use these ideologies to create wars and admittedly the USSR did play a part in, the reality is any system with power will do anything to preserve it even if it's equally distributed among the people, i mean there comes a point where people will run out of resources too and who do you think they will go after then, overall my basis is the west should stop interference in foreign countries affairs for good and leave nations to sustain for themselves as they rather not be controlled by another nation like with the British Empire, systems like capitalism or communism or any other systems needs to be well researched and learnt about (in case of communism how long can a elected leader can enjoy material wealth or continue that position as they will have to be replaced and wealth redistributed) instead of just accepting it recklessly as i believe any system even communism implemented without proper understanding does lead to chaos, as like with a riot which goes around there will be people looking for malicious intent too in that chaos trying to take advantage off people as much as possible
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@junjunsnow1139 that first statement which you claimed about power shifts i feel is a huge issue, i mean people like Biden only have been in the office for less than a year and look at the damages he's done, i believe people who are incompetent towards the people of a nation should never get any tenures and the way that the US Empire system works is basically a trial and error system where people will choose their leaders who manipulate them with promises and do the opposite and in all that time cause chaos and exploitation as much as possible, i do agree on the power shifts but really in the wrong hands especially corporatists it's only chaotic and many are powerless towards this no matter what system they implement, i mean these people who are powerful carry out all kinds of dirty tricks and manipulation and some even have understood the behavioural patterns of people accurately, if I'm honest it will really be a naive thinking such a system will not face any form of corruption especially when good people will slip up at some point and those cracks are something that people in power will take advantage off especially in this world where people themselves are selfish and self centred instead of maybe thinking about everyones well being, i didn't mean that a person should always stay in power for long, but the fact that the wrong side will gain ground is the issue here, i mean it's a cycle of good fighting the bad and this cycle is something that would be chaotic i say, i mean like you said we could either pray the leader does not turn out to be a scumbag and this trial and error process which the US government has continued is only causing more chaos while the real people in power are running the show as to benefit themselves in the end, i mean people in history overall have learnt to be in suffering and will accept anything nowadays like a toxic relationship and this is what I'm seeing with the US Empire, honestly in history suffering is something that will be there and people will make decisions which will be beyond others to change but at least we can try mitigating things as much as possible as people in the end overall do share a common goal as to survive and have better lives and this is something that could be taken advantage off or used for good
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@jeremydevor7004 i mean hell im sure many of things about countries you mentioned probably must have been from mainstream media alright? So how can you be sure of anything really? It's obvious that westerners will use this as a pretext to justify their actions on the world instead of staying away from other countries affairs altogether which obviously has been the case throughout history, claims of countries having dictatorship yet the country is progressing sounds contradictory especially when people would rather see their country progress and their lives away from poverty which nations have shown significant progress overall, let's just say about the Iran situation where Sharia law has suppressed women, yes it is understandable that it is unethical but it does not mean the west needs to interfere with their policies especially when it's obvious it shown how disastrous it is, the same people i.e Taliban whom the west were supporting in the 70s against Russia now are deemed terrorists for western convenience and justifying the war on terror despite being the west's fault, or invading iraq for the sake of removing a dictatorship like Saddam Hussein yet can't do the same thing with Saudi Arabia which is a dictatorship itself, please the double standards for the definition of dictatorship is warped here, if a country has issues with human rights the people of those nations should be the one to bring that change and not with western interference here especially when it's obvious how much economical harm it will cause to the US if it stops it's wars as it provides the blood oil that you enjoy surely, the people of those nations should be able to eventually understand their needs and what they will find better especially when foreign interference only shows to be a disaster especially with corporate practices involved on peoples resources and the old cultural and socio-economic model they had and which they benefitted from is ruined by western meddling, your definition of dictatorship is based on western media which obviously should not be a source of reason especially when you don't even visit the nations themselves and see the fact itself, I'm in no way supporting any form of suppression but if ideas which are meant to cause economical and social harm to the people are freely allowed then it is a issue too, and if nations have unethical practices continuing doesn't mean western countries should interfere this destroying the countries cultural and socio-economic development, people in modern times have ideas which are positive and some will eventually look to improve peoples lives as it is an innate feeling that will eventually come up especially with human nature
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@zhivago6 well ridiculous idea? Please which nation in this world has the largest amount of military bases installed throughout? Please it's obvious NATO is still expanding its military bases and conducting proxy wars throughout the globe and Russia is stuck with foreign nations which have previously had better relations with countries like Ukraine continue to get rid of ethnic Russians population which were left behind after the Soviet Union collapse, Ukraine was directly allowing western western intervention in the 2000s with multiple organisations like NED (national endowment for democracy) and various other pro western organizations around the world, this slow burn from Ukraine which continued to cut relations with Russia in 2014 after it's democratically elected leader was ousted in the maidan coup lead by pro western political parties especially with Victoria Newland playing a huge part and her conversations of Ukraine's elected leader being leaked proves it and relations being strained especially when Syria and other middle Eastern countries which had better ties with Russia as a bridge for Euro-Russian relations which is sabotaged by the US as well the US does not want any superpowers to have equal prominence as itself, this war is something that the US does not want any foreign countries like China or Russia having equal footing as them and you are just talking out of emotions not seeing the slow burn which was there in Ukraine even before this conflict began years ago with Ukraine and Ukraine literally had Neo Nazis like Stephen Bandera in the past who supported Nazi Germany against Russia in WW2 and his followers who are Banderites continue to be a part of the armed forces in Ukraine,you claim Russia carrying out mass murder of civilians yet don't seem to mention anything about the atrocities committed by your own nation in the past and how Ukraine ousted any pro Russian supporters and caused a civil war to the point where pro Russian supporters had separated themselves from Ukraine in the Donbass region, you have been taking sources from western media which obviously will show Ukraine being a victim in this war yet not mentioning anything about Ukraine's Neo Nazis which are still fighting the war and then being right next to Russian borders which clearly doesn't give Russia any room for their military or control over their borders, you claim any wars can be justified by flimsy reasoning yet i ask your same question to you too, China hasn't invaded Phillipines for the same reason they are already having problems with Taiwan especially when the US military is right next to their waters and not mentioning anything about the fact that Phillipines has maintained better relations with China compared to Ukraine which it's government had already started censorship via removing the Russian language in schools and institutions throughout Ukraine and the fact that bombings in Donbass aren't mentioned and Russia's multiple warnings which the US ignored on purpose or westerners not even bothering to see it let alone lecture others about invasion, It's obvious you would use words like critical thinking as if for people to forget the main objectives behind these wars and how they were caused in the first place and this game of geopolitics which westerners constantly try to forget yet are loud and complain about how foreign nations like Russia or China are imperialistic while forgetting about how the west invaded the middle East and in South America and Africa, please it's obvious NATO would not attack Russia as all they will be asking is mutual destruction from nuclear war which we all know how it ends, and now please don't claim these are all Russian propaganda as it is obvious which nation is at the top with its military bases compared that to China or Russia which are cornered in their own borders and get lectured by westerners while hiding their hypocrisy, no nation is waging wars on purpose other than the US and Russia has nothing to gain from this other than lose its trade partners in Europe which EU continued to cut relations with Russia and sabotaging them again like they did with the cold war which you westerners obviously forget as history books will sugarcoat any actions taken by the US Empire, even if you claim Russia is evil doesn't mean the west needs to supply weapons to Ukraine especially to Neo Nazis which in the past have committed various atrocities towards Russian ethnics and Russo-Ukrainians threatening their culture and way of life and instead of negotiations we are seeing more economic sanctions against the people of Russia instead of going after the oligarchs which worsens the lives of people and forcibly drags them to this war, but it's obvious in this game of geopolitics the west could care less especially when they have already done enough damages to the middle East and South America and various other continents yet you westerners never will mention anything about that and not see how your oligarchs continue to sabotage foreign nations and interfere in their affairs for their own agenda
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@jeremydevor7004 wow so you westerners will bring up your media and judge how history of foreign nations is ? Please I'm neither from the US or Russia here and the way i see it the west is the aggressor here expanding its influence everywhere across the globe, i mean how can any foreigner believe anything you westerners say if the history of the west has been living off the poor especially in the 50s where westerners enjoyed all the prestiges as much as they could, you claim me as supporting a lesser evil than a true evil yet it's obvious this is nothing but geopolitics at play, western propaganda has obviously worked with them sugarcoating their actions across the globe and claiming how Russia or China has been the aggressor and now you westerners come claiming as if foreigners are programmed ? Please maybe stop that bias as all you are doing is fueling the fires of war which your oligarchs had created and still can't leave foreign nations alone, the fact of the matter is Russia is sanctioned by the US and it's people are suffering due to the sanctions and here you come claiming how Russia is evil and instead of setting aside differences and negotiate for once you westerners will still keep that animosity towards Russia and it's progress, let's be real the west has been living off the spoils of war for too long and it's time it's people and oligarchs ruling them come crashing down if they continue to be antagonistic towards foreign nations, this lesser evil crap is overdone and people would rather set aside differences instead of continuing to call each other evil as it's obvious everyones hands is stained with blood, but i guess you westerners obviously don't want to let go and still "support" Ukraine despite the obvious facts, this cold war which continues from the old century mentalist ideals that you westerners can't let go off and other countries forced to take drastic actions to defend their own territory just shows the exceptionalism that westerners have and this will only be their downfall for good, you claim im a monster yet can't even look at the oligarchs you support, and the fact that you are complicit in fueling this war just like everyone in this war, love how these facts still doesn't change the fact that the west still has its military across the globe and i bet you would still come up with some justification like you westerners always did with 9/11 but I guess being disingenuous does work especially with western propaganda at display, love how you claim that people need to be deprogrammed as if they can't see through the reality of the situation, but i guess it does seem convenient, the fact that you bring up western sources to back up anything you westerners say just looses any trust people would have as it's obvious western propaganda has been built upon the foundations of lie and deceit towards the people, even if these countries have propoganda as you claim declaring them as enemies does nothing but ruin the lives of the people who want nothing from this war, whichever war crimes committed by people will come up eventually and be noticed in history as is the nature of war but instead of ending it for good and setting aside differences for our future generations to survive, the west would rather plunge itself deep into chaos out of conserving its own Empire at the expense of its own citizens
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@weatheranddarkness the western Empire isn't the world police westerner that they can go invade others lands cause they can, Cuba isn't even nearly as close as Ukraine and again Russia had Turkey near their proximity to face nuclear threats so no colonizer stop justifying and acting like we foreigners haven't forgotten your colonialist history and propaganda as to delude us into taking your oligarchs sides
Literally you westerners are hypocrites here acting like your oligarchs didn't influence Ukraine and turn it into their puppet state, spare us foreigners your falsehoods colonizer as it's obvious Ukraine had their people already westernized by various political figures like Victoria Newland who btw were directly on Ukrainian lands influencing their people against Russia, regardless of what happened the west's influences are surely no lie and we foreigners surely do know as most of the world is westernized for your westerners to come enjoy our slave labour products and services in a cheaper value
don't delude us into believing that this is the cold war again and we need to take the sides of your colonial oligarchs, we would rather take no sides and call out western hypocrisy and kick out western influences and our people who are westernized as puppets for your oligarchs than support your colonial oligarchs again,
and yes hypocrite westerner Ukraine does have Nazis like the Germans had (another colonizer) and Russia although are colonialists themselves at least have a good reason to stop western influences from invading their lands again as they would stop their neighbours from being westernized again and turning Ukraine against them
"Fascist administration of Putin" 😂, please as if we foreigners don't see westerners as colonizers too, your people are worse than anything Putin has done, remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Guatemala Armenia, Cuba, Libya and various other countries in the list westerner? Or maybe you will feed us nonsensical western rhetorics as to have us believe your oligarchs were "saving" them, don't delude us into that cold war nonsense colonizer, the idea that Russia has some problems with racists isn't laughable colonizer, your people seem to forget how they treated migrants whom your oligarchs invaded their lands from,you forgot or it's just hypocrisy?
Finland, France, Denmark all these European countries are just colonialist nations for us foreigners obviously and we obviously know colonizers never learnt from their ancestors atrocities and carry on their legacy as colonialists, Finland and it's people are just dooming themselves and their future generations into another war cause their oligarchs can't stop being colonizers and continue their legacy as colonialists again never learning from their past
we don't give a crap about western rhetorics like right wing, left wing and other nonsensical rhetorics that western colonizers used in the cold war as to potray themselves as heroes of the world, this isn't the cold war westerner so don't delude us foreigners
Russia surely is a colonialist nation like your country westerner,we foreigners just view both of your sides as colonizers who invade others lands cause your oligarchs have the power to do so and steal their resources and lands from us foreigners, Israel is another colonialist nation so we foreigners don't even bother defending them let alone the Palestinians who themselves are paid by your western colonizers to go cause conflict cause western colonizers need their billions from the arms industry which you westerners hypocritically enjoy from, "specious", "fundamental", "disingenuous" all typical western rhetorics used to sound smart cause colonizers obviously will act all mighty and use such words cause they are the "saviors of the world"
Russia invading other countries surely doesn't solve anything but fight back against western colonialism which Russians are surely doing for their country, for us foreigners we would rather prefer countries like Ukraine never have gotten involved with your westerners in the first place let alone allow their lands for your oligarchs who obviously took all the advantages they have especially the oil and gas reserves in Ukraine which western colonizers obviously will exploit selling it at a cheaper value for you westerners to hypocritically enjoy the slave labour and blood oil from Ukrainians, Russia surely is colonialist but western Empire is much worse, Ukraine should have never even abandoned their nuclear capabilities but that would have also meant your westerners would have invaded their lands culturally and westernized their people like your oligarchs did with our countries,
colonizers especially superpowers who are influenced by western ideals are surely causing all the troubles for your oligarchs to be the "saviors ", while we foreigners obviously know who's the culprits here, we would rather rid of all foreign colonizers especially westerners and their influences kicking out anyone who abides by western ideals
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@weatheranddarkness the western Empire isn't the world police westerner that they can go invade others lands cause they can, Cuba isn't even nearly as close as Ukraine and again Russia had Turkey near their proximity to face nuclear threats so no colonizer stop justifying and acting like we foreigners haven't forgotten your colonialist history and propaganda as to delude us into taking your oligarchs sides
Literally you westerners are hypocrites here acting like your oligarchs didn't influence Ukraine and turn it into their puppet state, spare us foreigners your falsehoods colonizer as it's obvious Ukraine had their people already westernized by various political figures like Victoria Newland who btw were directly on Ukrainian lands influencing their people against Russia, regardless of what happened the west's influences are surely no lie and we foreigners surely do know as most of the world is westernized for your westerners to come enjoy our slave labour products and services in a cheaper value
don't delude us into believing that this is the cold war again and we need to take the sides of your colonial oligarchs, we would rather take no sides and call out western hypocrisy and kick out western influences and our people who are westernized as puppets for your oligarchs than support your colonial oligarchs again,
and yes hypocrite westerner Ukraine does have Nazis like the Germans had (another colonizer) and Russia although are colonialists themselves at least have a good reason to stop western influences from invading their lands again as they would stop their neighbours from being westernized again and turning Ukraine against them
"Fascist administration of Putin" 😂, please as if we foreigners don't see westerners as colonizers too, your people are worse than anything Putin has done, remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Guatemala Armenia, Cuba, Libya and various other countries in the list westerner? Or maybe you will feed us nonsensical western rhetorics as to have us believe your oligarchs were "saving" them, don't delude us into that cold war nonsense colonizer, the idea that Russia has some problems with racists isn't laughable colonizer, your people seem to forget how they treated migrants whom your oligarchs invaded their lands from,you forgot or it's just hypocrisy?
Finland, France, Denmark all these European countries are just colonialist nations for us foreigners obviously and we obviously know colonizers never learnt from their ancestors atrocities and carry on their legacy as colonialists, Finland and it's people are just dooming themselves and their future generations into another war cause their oligarchs can't stop being colonizers and continue their legacy as colonialists again never learning from their past
we don't give a crap about western rhetorics like right wing, left wing and other nonsensical rhetorics that western colonizers used in the cold war as to potray themselves as heroes of the world, this isn't the cold war westerner so don't delude us foreigners
Russia surely is a colonialist nation like your country westerner,we foreigners just view both of your sides as colonizers who invade others lands cause your oligarchs have the power to do so and steal their resources and lands from us foreigners, Israel is another colonialist nation so we foreigners don't even bother defending them let alone the Palestinians who themselves are paid by your western colonizers to go cause conflict cause western colonizers need their billions from the arms industry which you westerners hypocritically enjoy from, "specious", "fundamental", "disingenuous" all typical western rhetorics used to sound smart cause colonizers obviously will act all mighty and use such words cause they are the "saviors of the world"
Russia invading other countries surely doesn't solve anything but fight back against western colonialism which Russians are surely doing for their country, for us foreigners we would rather prefer countries like Ukraine never have gotten involved with your westerners in the first place let alone allow their lands for your oligarchs who obviously took all the advantages they have especially the oil and gas reserves in Ukraine which western colonizers obviously will exploit selling it at a cheaper value for you westerners to hypocritically enjoy the slave labour and blood oil from Ukrainians, Russia surely is colonialist but western Empire is much worse, Ukraine should have never even abandoned their nuclear capabilities but that would have also meant your westerners would have invaded their lands culturally and westernized their people like your oligarchs did with our countries
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@xuto2693 well the reality is the fact that the capitalist system only benefited the few and the so called positives that people had from capitalism were from at the expense of other countries which were suffering from imperialism and former colonialism i.e the people in the US and European countries used globalisation as a way for their companies to be placed on foreign nations where they will have their monopoly over the natural resources of those nations and if those nations fight back in this case the global south you get the cartel and right wing puppets from those respective countries who basically loot their own country and its people and live in the west, westerners have lived their lives thinking their system is perfect and works yet never questioned how they get resources in the first place and how much do they get and whether there's a limit to how much they can earn, you get these multi-billion dollar oligarchs which some of them ironically were ordinary people who sometimes don't even know how to spend their money when they grew old or if their offsprings and future generations even managed that wealth or blew it all up on materialistic pleasure, there's also the fact that western culture overall does not look on a scientific understanding and basis for what's right and doesn't seek to improve its culture, look at those auctions and how people buy up things which are extremely expensive but have no actual value to its use and only is present as to showcase their egos something that even we ordinary people have at some point like owning something which has no materialistic value but only is expensive in name sake and some people held onto it as to even risk their own assets financially and social relations being ruined due to debts or other things, it's this reckless spending on things and demand which we continually ask for which we do not have any proper understanding of whether it's required or not or even in modern culture the fact that we only selectively think about one thing while not bothering with the other or finding any relations to how the issue could b solved is why those who are privileged aren't taught to be humble and have a proper understanding of whats is required and what isn't, we should first look to improve ourselves first instead of improving the system which is an innate fault of our own way of life, any country can work under a system correctly if they are provided with enough ample resources, manpower and time to understand implementation and remaining skeptical, but modern times have demanded the need of a few benefits the many which is itself inherently flawed as the many will fight back and they are surely doing, even from a corporatist standpoint the practitioner would not think to cause conflict on its own consumer base, and capitalism also encourages unethical practices on putting a price tag on things even on people like with the healthcare system which is notorious on this one, capitalism is a system which is designed for the needs of the people in the sense of their materialistic needs and pleasure and not like from a survivalistic needs i.e to stay alive, under a capitalist system you could own anything as long as you got enough money but also the reality is many people buy things which on the long run do not benefit i.e owning a sports car not considering the maintenance and demand to buy newer version which also planned obsolescence comes into play i.e reducing the products functionality which if done without obsolescence would have been miles better than just distributing nerfed versions of the product, it's also noted that compared to capitalism which has the resources distribution in the hands of the people who have the potential to become an oligarch and not have affiliations to the state, communism has the wealth distribution under a single company i.e the state which eliminates other people who try to gain power which could be seen as a good thing depending upon subjectivity i.e whether other people can have a monopoly over the rest or everyone to be under the same monopoly under the state which people or other oligarchs are at the complete mercy of the state, the issue is the fact that people rather prefer having an opportunity to have a monopoly over others or remain independent i.e stay rich and not be touched by the state, people got to look from a individualistic perspective and in this case a person who seeks to be rich could have the potential to help or ruin other peoples lives, same thing with the state which the people running it can decide whether to help their people or hoard all that wealth for themselves, the reality is that if you take into account all the people in this world i.e nearly 8 billion it would not be enough for all the people in the world to have the same average life i.e middle class and some will have to fall under poverty for the others to survive especially when you take into account how we use resources and what we use it for and also the fact that many will want to live the same lavish lifestyle as others, the issue is the fact that we in modern times are still scientifically deprived and could have achieved much more if the imperialistic in the past decided to actually set aside their differences and actually look to help develop poor nations scientifically and technologically instead of having this disparity where the poor breed like rats understandably to survive,the reality is that conflicts make money as the balance of power and control that people have off their resources gets shifted and in that orderly chaos oligarchs find the opportunity to slowly surplus all that wealth, capitalism also has ties with western culture overall and how they live their lives and many of our lifestyles still haven't changed from the way we lived half a decade, yes technology is developed but still the overall lifestyle is largely the same and this stagnancy is only killing the west and also dragging the rest of the world and the same system which never was revised or even thought of adding some socialist elements which would benefit the people and in turn them is never implemented, it is obvious that in any system we people will have leader whom we choose to oversee as people can't be like the wild west i.e every person on their own and the people are at the mercy of their leaders whether they choose to do good or bad and benefit themselves
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@professorcheckmate well that's where the issue of your opinion has been around, the fact that you claim one system is bad while the other is lesser bad is just biased sorry, socialism hasn't worked in a country due to the fact that any country implementing such systems will lead to chaos not due to them being failures and more about the fact that people just can't see a successful system being applied, your making this all about being anti socialistic despite the fact i never even mentioning anything about socialism being bad, my point is that both systems needs to be understood and instead of just considering socialism as bad and not implementing any system at all maybe try to understand why people think socialism has benefits which weren't explored enough due to the fact that countries following such systems were often sanctioned by the west which directly pose a challenge to its capitalist ideas, I'm sorry but I'm not going to remain biased here and like with any system that requires criticisms doesn't mean they should be just taken in as a failure, especially when these systems were never applied on a country which has the sufficient economic wealth and technologically developed like the US was, Soviet Union failed in this due to the amounts of corruption that ensued which directly challenged the oligarchy system that it had in the past i.e the Tsarists who still had some wealth and contacts with Europe in the late 18th century, i seen enough criticisms about socialism which doesn't explain the flaws of it properly and all i get answers are they failed despite the fact that countries like Cuba were already considered a terrorist nation by the US even before communism was introduced there, the cold war was just the west using communism as a pretext to carry out and gain hegemony over the global market and they have been successful and all i see are comments like yours which doesn't offer any basis without western bias, there are already new hybridized system which is applied in Russia with its state resources being nationalized unlike the US which doesn't allow any government control and left entirely on private companies which make billions off fracking and various other unethical practices, you do make a point of how a socialist system is very vulnerable to corruption and it is obvious why as the wealth distribution isn't something that corporatists would prefer to be equally distributed, please don't confuse me with being capitalist as it has done enough damages already with various countries like South Korea with corporatists fueling the debt crisis among the youths or the countries from Global South and Africa in the past which had been run by private oil corporations like Shell or Exxon which had subsidized the oil from these nations leaving the government of those nations with almost lower resources for people to sustain, socialist countries like the Soviet Union were doomed from the start especially with leaders who recklessly carried on those ideals on sectors which were used to monarchy based understanding like Britain was in the past and also with the fact that there was a massive cold war which the west wanted to prevent any form of labour unions which actually looked to get rid of concentration of power into a few hands with all these factors the USSR was bound to fail, ironically the west in the 50s had better lifestyles which obviously was from the spoils of war created on foreign countries after the aftermath left by the British Empire and even if the systems were capitalist still allowed people sufficient resources as the wealth supply was significantly larger from cheap labour from foreign countries, and those times are now gone especially with the Empire not having enough monopoly now that foreign countries have nationalised their resources, modern times are more based on hybridized systems which take in different aspects of each system and no matter which system is applied any system even capitalism or communism will be bound to fail if they do not have enough connections with the rest of the world in terms of technology or resources and now those failures are used as a pretext for people to base a system as a failure instead of seeing which aspects of those systems would work for the people
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@juliankraus1011 1. Alright we will talk about the 80s Afghanistan war which the west interfered in
2.well it does look like you are defending western intervention especially when talking about how just because Russia invaded Afghanistan so the west is the world police and has intervened in return
3.well you talk as if it was the only way it would have happened despite the fact that the west really didn't need to intervene in these conflicts, so maybe not sugarcoat it please
4.you talk as if the west didn't have anything to do with the conflict beforehand and that the west never had any contacts with the Mujahideen as to justify the Soviet invasion, either way regardless of historical "facts" it is obvious for us foreigners that the west and the Soviets were surely involved in the political disputes in Afghanistan even before the Soviet invasion, otherwise your painting this picture of the Soviets being the villians who invaded a foreign country and the west had no hand in Afghanistan's internal affairs which we know those "facts" would never be disclosed
as we already know in the past how the west has toppled governments and installed client regimes by backing the opposition party in a country's political affairs which still this practice continues in Haiti and other countries in the global South
5. Please we know it's all a lie especially when western forces were covertly involved in these conflicts and the same with the Soviets which these superpowers obviously will withhold information about it, please don't try to convince us foreigners about "facts" which already has been proven throughout history to be false, it has been documented the west from time to time intervened in global politics for its own interests (like replacing Guantemala's president with a fascist regime or US backed coup in Bolivia and many other regions across the world, even in Ukraine where the current president Zelensky has shown to have multiple shares in Wall Street and had western democrats like Victoria Newland directly backing the opposition party Zelensky worked under or say the wests successful coup in Haiti and the endless list goes on) as to secure as many countries under its faction and with NATO expansion of every country which seemingly "choose" to join western powers it is obvious for us who's the enemy here, so this claim of the only foreign troops being the Mujahideen who were obviously backed by covert western factions and mercenary groups which the west hires like Blackwater which got involved in Iraq so it's not safe to assume the west would obviously use such methods as to ascertain the Mujahideens victory, so please don't just pretend we foreigners don't know anything about this wars history especially when the history told by you and the western Empire you defend is obviously false all written by victors of a war
6. You call me building up a strawman yet you come here bringing western "facts" which are obviously warped as to convince others how right the west was at that time, we all know by this point what the west and it's oligarchs are committing themselves to and it's high time the west and other factions like Russia and China never will continue to interfere in global politics as countries have already taken strict measures to avoid foreign meddling like how it happened in the past, but hey i guess your western counterparts will find a way to destabilize other smaller nations, Ukraine was surely successful as it was already doomed since the western intervention in the dissolution of the USSR, the west and all these other factions are surely involving other countries who would rather isolate themselves away from their senseless wars and putting this narrative as there being only one enemy seems very convenient for the west obviously
i even wonder whether you are even from the global South my friend cause it surely doesn't look like an average citizen from any of the countries of the global South would agree with foreign interference in their countries in the first place especially since the Spanish or Portuguese invaded their countries
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@costinhalaicu2746 well I may try to take some steps to avoid that but it would surely be flawed in many and it may be doubtful for even newer countries which may be doomed but it would be worth a try or maybe not
1. Smaller countries would have to cut themselves off from the west completely and look to sustain themselves economically via nationalizing their resources instead of relying on the world trade or the open market (which we know would be devastating for the people in the small country but honestly I would see no option to guarantee freedom), about the knowledge of nuclear weapons countries like Iran had already taken steps to ensure they would have had maintained relations with other fellow superpowers so smaller countries could try something similar and may try to gain knowledge of nuclear power via third parties ( I know the steps which will be required will be hard if not impossible but smaller countries in the past had managed to gain access to nuclear technology before like Iran from the Soviets so it may be worth a shot for countries to try something similar with China but even that's doubtful as China would obviously want something in return and probably would be even worse dealing with them than the west ), about military intervention like I said so the above steps must be taken as soon as possible or in the past should have taken steps so if your like a new country which wants to stave off western hegemony then ur kinda doomed as really you could do nothing about countries which are hellbent on making your resources free for everyone, really Ukraine in the past actually could have been free by not giving up any nuclear weaponry they possessed from the Soviets, that way they could have actually ensured no invasion whether from the west or the Soviets could have taken place
I do agree the steps here would be flawed and if not impossible to pull off but if done so then countries could have guaranteed their own self preservation
2. Second part really I can't refute other than trying to cut off your country from the rest of the world but we already seen from North Korea as an example of how devastating that could be and the irony is that a country like North Korea is run by corrupt leaders with selfish interests who only put their own people under the bus as the rich would rather enjoy with the remaining wealth with what they have than ever provide for their own people, so there really wouldn't be any feasible solutions for this for sure unless your nation would have to end up giving something else in return for power and in fact may be worse dealing with countries which wouldn't be as "kind" as the west, not to mention the west really has their eyes and influences everywhere across the globe and your point about corruption is also true enough that even an attempt of wanting to gain access to nukes would be quickly shut down by the west as justification of terrorism not to mention their propaganda which works really well towards westerners who will believe everything anyway as long as they get fed enough, the west really engineered plans to avoid countries from being self sufficient enough with the steps you mentioned about corruption or foreign interference all these factors can lead countries trying to hey away from foreign hegemony into destabilization
Final point I do agree with many of the statements as the west has just too much power and influence for them to ever allow other self sufficient countries to be free from influences or doing better than their people, especially when it's not just the west and other countries are also wanting the same thing to not allow any other nations being prosperous, a bunch of power hungry maniacs running these superpower nations who wouldn't even allow other countries to have their own autonomy or self sufficiency for their peoples sake and won't even improve their own country as they rather would want no country to have control of their own resources, maybe countries could have taken steps to avoid western hegemony and other foreign forces especially in the 50-60s where they could have had the time gap to gain access to nukes but that time is gone sadly with the UN i.e US Nations using the fear of nukes and basically getting rid of any form of resistance countries could have shown against foreign invaders
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@costinhalaicu2746 well about these topics really here's the thing, my country has a different history from whatever history your country went through and as far as our country is concerned we are very anti western and for very good reasons and although the west may have done some positives the negatives like our culture being completely desecrated and warped in convenience for the west and not to mention our country being lead by corrupt leaders whom the west continues to support and endorse them, all these factors is what leads to us being anti western in the first place, idk about your country and whether it was in the Soviet era which we foreigners don't have any knowledge about, regardless of what your countrys people think for us the west has been a negative influence and we would rather want the west gone along with other Empires, and whatever history your people are exposed to for us all these countries like Iran Russia or the west including the US are the enemies really, all foreigners have done in our nation is replace and warp our culture into unrecognisable things and is why we have such contempt against any nation, so don't be mistaken into believing I would support any country even the west for us is our enemy and any other countries support their regime, same goes with China or other superpowers, about Iran and other countries you claim from what we understood is that they are no different than the west at least for my country people and we wouldn't want to get involved in any of their histories let alone the west whom we wish give back all they stole from our lands instead of living off our wealths, but sadly the people in my country are just too stuck up worshiping westerners as saviors yet never see them as the colonizers they are
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@costinhalaicu2746 please westerner don't delude us with western facts and claim sympathy for European countries, in fact the country you mentioned Poland had allied with the west many times against Russia and has allied with many other European powers in the colonial era, we foreigners aren't deluded to just believe that some countries in Europe are innocent despite the fact that those countries had allied with NATO in their expansion, it would be naive for us to not consider European nations as not sharing colonial ties
same goes with every other nations in the past and the only nations which we could sympathize with are nations which were essentially colonial outposts for colonizers like many Asian countries or many of the global South or many African nations which are still colonial outposts for the west and for China
please don't try to bring up alternative historical facts as to ascertain us foreigners about how colonialism worked especially when it was broadly understood by countries across the globe that the western world had and still was better developed than the rest of the world, even China which was a colonial power in the past never expanded beyond their borders unlike western powers like Europe and Russian Empire from the Tsar Era which expanded to many different continents and continued their colonial expansion and although it could be argued Empires from foreign lands were colonial too they never did expand beyond their lands as much as the west had done, every country has their history written with blood but knowing human history it was never as peaceful as people expect, but what's different from today and in modern times is that countries are no longer in control over their systems, like the Mayans whose descendants i.e Mexicans, Guatemala and other central American countries were colonised by the Spanish and now the US and even if their history was violent there were multiple revolutions and coups as to leave their culture unchanged, but with the western world monotonizing their culture and essentially alienating the newer generation from the history of their countries and in turn worshipping the west which in turn discriminate against them only as long as they don't follow their western ideals, it is making things obvious that times are changed for the worse now that countries are essentially becoming the same as the west with selective ways of running their country all in convenience for the west to monopolize their resources for their self interests
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