Comments by "robs2020" (@sbor2020) on "David Starkey Talks" channel.

  1.  @thecentralscrutinizer  "The Central Scrutinizer" sounds like you should have been in the St@si or some other secret police. If by “woke” you mean I have no interest in attacking Mosques, then “guilty as charged”.
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  2. The idea that voiding the Act of Union 1707 would instantly undo all constitutional changes and restore "the best protection" under English Common Law is an oversimplification. The Acts of Union created a political union with Scotland but didn't govern England's constitution or human rights framework. Changes like the Human Rights Act or other modern laws wouldn't just "fall" by reversing the Union. Plus, modern human rights protections come from a mix of Common Law, statutes, and international agreements; it's not just about Common Law. More nuanced reforms would be needed. For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong - H. L. Mencken
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  3.  @raymondwoods2304  William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law ! Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil ? William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that ! Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake ! Robert Bolt - A Man for All Seasons For someone who believes leaving the ECHR is a step forward, the quote from Sir Thomas More serves as a warning about the risks of dismantling legal protections to achieve a short-term goal. More argues that laws are there to protect everyone, and if we start removing them to deal with specific challenges, like deporting asylum seekers, we could weaken the legal framework that keeps society safe and orderly. Even though leaving the ECHR might seem like a solution for managing immigration, it sets a precedent for eroding legal protections that could affect everyone in the future, not just asylum seekers. More’s message is that upholding legal principles is essential, even when it's difficult, because abandoning them could lead to chaos and a loss of rights for all.
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  4.  @raymondwoods2304  William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law ! Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil ? William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that ! Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake ! Robert Bolt - A Man for All Seasons For someone who believes leaving the ECHR is a step forward, the quote from Sir Thomas More serves as a warning about the risks of dismantling legal protections to achieve a short-term goal. More argues that laws are there to protect everyone, and if we start removing them to deal with specific challenges, like deporting asylum seekers, we could weaken the legal framework that keeps society safe and orderly. Even though leaving the ECHR might seem like a solution for managing immigration, it sets a precedent for eroding legal protections that could affect everyone in the future, not just asylum seekers. More’s message is that upholding legal principles is essential, even when it's difficult, because abandoning them could lead to chaos and a loss of rights for all.
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  5. So the essence of conservatism in England is the belief in preserving traditional institutions, promoting gradual change, and prioritising stability, individual responsibility, and limited government intervention in economic and social affairs. So what is your idea of conservatism ?
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  6. Isn't it ironic that the UKIPy people are saying the Conservative Party has changed when the party has been struggling for years to transform itself into a Nigel Farage party by appealing to a small reactionary section of the electorate? The very solid basis of the Conservative Party - the "blue rinse" ladies and the golf club gentlemen are no longer their core constituent. They now appeal to, on the one hand, millionaire donors that seek to seek to deregulate by pushing down standards, wages, and slashing workers’ rights, and on the other, appealing to right-wing electorate that are more nationalist, anti-immigration, and anti-EU. In making this shift, it has alienated many of the party's traditional supporters, who valued stability, law, and order, and moderate economic policies. Instead of strengthening conservative values, this shift has often undermined them in favour of a deregulated, socially fragmented society. So, the critique from UKIP-like voices feels contradictory when the party has arguably embraced their core ideologies in practice.
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