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@ It's interesting that you dismiss terms like “genocide” and “white supremacy” as mere buzzwords, especially given the well-documented evidence behind them. For instance, settler colonial genocide, which is what is happening in Palestinian lands, refers to the systematic destruction of Indigenous peoples and their cultures – not just through direct violence, but also through forced assimilation, suppression of languages, and erasure of their sovereignty. This isn't a conspiracy theory; it's a historical and ongoing reality. Regarding Douglas Murray, his comments on cultural superiority and his reluctance to clearly repudiate acts of genocide raise valid concerns about the normalisation of such views. Labelling those who discuss these issues as “mindless Orwellian sheep” seems more like an attempt to shut down critical thinking than to engage with it. Some of us prefer to base our views on evidence and a willingness to confront uncomfortable truths, rather than retreating into echo chambers. Hope you reconsider your approach to these conversations. Have a good Sunday.
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@ No, please explain what measures the IDF take to reduce casualties and deaths in Gaza.
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A bit of an exaggeration, Marx's use of the quote was more nuanced and strategic, often highlighting the necessity of revolutionary change to overcome outdated systems rather than endorsing a purely nihilistic outlook.
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@usafvet100 Don't bother asking about omelettes. My question is: Where's your repudiation of the genocide in Gaza? You supporters of Douglas Murray often endorse Israel and align with white supremacist ideologies. How do you reconcile this?
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@elichabassol5238 What a typical response. Post it in the main chat, but do please explain how the IDF are preventing casualties in Gaza.
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@erc9468 No one is denying that Mao and Stalin were responsible for mass atrocities. The issue here is not comparing body counts but recognising that genocide is defined by intent, not just scale. If a group is being systematically targeted for destruction – whether in Gaza, in Stalin’s purges, or in Mao’s campaigns – then it meets the definition of genocide. Acknowledging one genocide does not erase others, nor does it require a ranking system. If you're concerned about historical accuracy, consistency should apply across the board.
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@ So you have provided NOTHING; no evidence.
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@ You cannot cite any credible sources.
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@ If the IDF's goal were to protect lives, the sheer scale of civilian casualties, displacement, and destruction in Gaza would suggest otherwise. Reports from the UN, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch document widespread civilian deaths, attacks on hospitals, and restricted humanitarian aid. Protecting lives requires de-escalation, adherence to international law, and allowing full humanitarian access – none of which are currently happening.
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@ Given that international law defines genocide as the deliberate attempt to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethic, racial, or religious group, how do you reconcile Israel's military actions in Gaza – specifically targeting civilian infrastructure, limiting access to basic needs, and the reported deaths of thousands of civilians – with the legal definition of genocide as outlined in the Genocide Convention ?
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No one is denying that Mao and Stalin were responsible for mass atrocities. The issue here is not comparing body counts but recognising that genocide is defined by intent, not just scale. If a group is being systematically targeted for destruction – whether in Gaza, in Stalin’s purges, or in Mao’s campaigns – then it meets the definition of genocide. Acknowledging one genocide does not erase others, nor does it require a ranking system. If you're concerned about historical accuracy, consistency should apply across the board.
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@pittland44 Referring to Marx in terms of megalomania is somewhat subjective, and we should consider the historical and literary context. The poem you refer to must be: Then I will wander godlike and victorious Through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force , I will feel equal to the Creator . I wonder what your poems were like when you were a sixth former. It shows the influence of German Romanticism and Herder’s idea of organic historical renewal likely to have influenced young Marx’s early poetic vision, where destruction and rebirth were seen as necessary forces of transformation, though Marx later shifted from a cultural and national focus to a materialist, class-based theory of renewal through revolutionary crisis. Marx didn’t advocate for “tearing civilization down” – he analysed capitalism’s internal contradictions, which lead to periodic crises. Influenced by German Romanticism, he saw these crises as both destructive and renewing: they expose capitalism’s flaws, force economic restructuring, and sometimes spark social transformation. Like the Romantics, he viewed history as a dynamic process of upheaval and rebirth, but he grounded this vision in materialist analysis rather than idealism. His goal wasn’t ruin, but a transition to a more just system. His early poetry was dramatic, reflecting Romantic themes of destruction and creation, but his mature work focused on understanding economic systems, and whether you view this as megalomania is subjective and not well-founded.
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@ You have not provided any evidence to support the claim that the IDF's objective was to protect lives in Gaza. Furthermore, you overlook the systematic targeting of the civilian population. The UN has recognised that actions in Gaza meet the criteria for genocide as defined by the 1948 Genocide Convention. You have not presented any evidence to refute this, which leads us to conclude that you have nothing. NOTHING!!
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@usafvet100 Die Kommunisten erklären es offen, dass ihre Ziele nur durch den gewaltsamen Umsturz aller bisherigen Gesellschaftsordnung erreicht werden können. Mögen die herrschenden Klassen vor einer kommunistischen Revolution zittern. Die Proletarier haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen . They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win . Which countries had universal suffrage in 1848 ?
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@elichabassol5238 You have not explained how Israel’s actions – such as cutting off essential supplies like food, water, and medical aid, along with the imposition of collective punishment on the population – can be considered "measures the IDF takes to reduce civilian casualties.
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@ The far-right love the uneducated.
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You have not explained how Israel’s actions – such as cutting off essential supplies like food, water, and medical aid, along with the imposition of collective punishment on the population – can be considered "measures the IDF takes to reduce civilian casualties."
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@ Better for a hundred innocent men to die than for one heretic to go free . Tomas de Torquemada Christianity has so often been used as a tool of coercion and brutality, enforcing conformity through fear, persecution, and violence in the name of divine authority.
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@elichabassol5238 I haven't given up on someone defending genocide to provide evidence for their claim. Your answer is watch a youtube video! Does the video provide credible support for your claim. I think not. Anyway, let's be more specific, how do you define "measures to reduce civilian casualties," and how can these measures be effectively verified in conflict zones where information is often contested or censored ?
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@elichabassol5238 Does this video explain Israel’s actions – such as cutting off essential supplies like food, water, and medical aid, along with the imposition of collective punishment on the population as measures to reduce civilian casualties? If so, timestamp it please.
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@elichabassol5238 Angry? I’m not angry; I have a cool contempt for those who, despite being clever, make unsubstantiated claims that amount to Israeli propaganda. While the IDF may claim to take measures to minimise civilian casualties, the reality is far more complex, and the consequences are devastating for those caught in the middle. I prefer to form my views based on a range of perspectives and facts, rather than accepting a single narrative. It’s crucial to critically evaluate all sides of such a complex issue. How can reports from the UN, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch – documenting widespread civilian deaths, attacks on hospitals, and the restriction of humanitarian aid – be called “propaganda”, rather than an accurate reflection of the reality in Gaza?"
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Angry? I’m not angry; I have a cool contempt for those who, despite being clever, make unsubstantiated claims that amount to Israeli propaganda. While the IDF may claim to take measures to minimise civilian casualties, the reality is far more complex, and the consequences are devastating for those caught in the middle. I prefer to form my views based on a range of perspectives and facts, rather than accepting a single narrative. It’s crucial to critically evaluate all sides of such a complex issue. How can reports from the UN, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch – documenting widespread civilian deaths, attacks on hospitals, and the restriction of humanitarian aid – be called “propaganda”, rather than an accurate reflection of the reality in Gaza?"
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@elichabassol5238 You have yet to address the question you yourself set up in your previous post. How can reports from the UN, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch – documenting widespread civilian deaths, attacks on hospitals, and the restriction of humanitarian aid – be dismissed as “propaganda” rather than an accurate reflection of the reality in Gaza? These are independent organisations with long-established records of investigating human rights violations globally. Furthermore, genocide is not a matter of personal opinion; it is a legal determination made by international courts based on clear criteria. You may seek to discredit the legal system, but you are in no position to do so. The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command . – George Orwell, 1984
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@elichabassol5238 You have yet to explain how the IDF's attacks on hospitals in Gaza resulted in saving lives.
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@elichabassol5238 If you dismiss well-established international organisations with a history of human rights investigations as “propaganda,” what criteria do you use to determine the credibility of reports on war crimes and human rights violations ?
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@JackHaveman52 As if the hard right needs another clown.
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@JackHaveman52 The 1930s called, they want their blackshirt back.
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@JackHaveman52 The demographic shifts in Israel, with significant growth in both the Jewish and Muslim populations, highlight the region's complex population dynamics, which must be understood within a broader historical, political, and cultural context. The Jewish population of Israel grew from 3.3 million in 1980 to 7.2 million in 2023 (+118.2%), while the Muslim population grew from 639,000 to 1.782 million (+178.8%). Although the Muslim population grew at a higher percentage, this statistic overlooks the historical, cultural, and political factors at play. According to the international legal definition of genocide, it involves the intentional and systematic destruction of a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group through acts such as killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, or deliberately inflicting conditions that lead to its destruction. If the IDF’s actions in Gaza – killing tens of thousands, destroying infrastructure, displacing nearly the entire population, and blocking humanitarian aid – aren’t considered genocide, then what exactly would they be? Regarding the claim about the spread of Islam in the 7th century, this overlooks the complex nature of religious and cultural shifts over time. The spread of Islam was largely driven by military conquests and social integration, not solely by genocide or cultural eradication. While some indigenous cultures declined, the process was influenced by a variety of factors. Early Christians, like early Muslims, were deeply committed to spreading their faith, often through missionary work and conversion efforts across vast regions.
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The demographic shifts in Israel, with significant growth in both the Jewish and Muslim populations, highlight the region's complex population dynamics, which must be understood within a broader historical, political, and cultural context. The Jewish population of Israel grew from 3.3 million in 1980 to 7.2 million in 2023 (+118.2%), while the Muslim population grew from 639,000 to 1.782 million (+178.8%). Although the Muslim population grew at a higher percentage, this statistic overlooks the historical, cultural, and political factors at play. According to the international legal definition of genocide, it involves the intentional and systematic destruction of a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group through acts such as killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, or deliberately inflicting conditions that lead to its destruction. If the IDF’s actions in Gaza – killing tens of thousands, destroying infrastructure, displacing nearly the entire population, and blocking humanitarian aid – aren’t considered genocide, then what exactly would they be? Regarding the claim about the spread of Islam in the 7th century, this overlooks the complex nature of religious and cultural shifts over time. The spread of Islam was largely driven by military conquests and social integration, not solely by genocide or cultural eradication. While some indigenous cultures declined, the process was influenced by a variety of factors. Early Christians, like early Muslims, were deeply committed to spreading their faith, often through missionary work and conversion efforts across vast regions.
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@JackHaveman52 How do population changes in Israel affect its politics and society? What other factors should be considered ?
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@JackHaveman52 If the IDF’s actions in Gaza do not meet the legal definition of genocide, what criteria would need to be met for such a classification, and how should these actions be categorised instead ?
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@JackHaveman52 How does focusing only on conquest overlook the broader historical and cultural context?
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@elichabassol5238 You have not been able to provide a single shred of evidence to support your claim, nor has anyone else stepped in to help. With the breakdown of the ceasefire, isn’t it time to be straight with us and admit that you have nothing and that your claim was false ?
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You talk big, but you don't back it up .
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Far-right lies.
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@elichabassol5238 FAR RIGHT and LIAR
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Far right 🤡
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@elichabassol5238 LIAR
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@elichabassol5238 Why do you post blatant propaganda without a shred of evidence? Are you chasing "likes" to boost your ego, or defending those who profit from conflict? Maybe you genuinely believe the misinformation you spread. Either way, excusing mass suffering exposes your lack of critical thinking and basic humanity. History will judge those who justify atrocities.
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@elichabassol5238 The Financial Times reported on Israel's plans to reoccupy Gaza and the potential implications for its residents ( Israel readies plans for occupation of Gaza , 25th March). These plans involve relocating Gaza's 2.2 million residents into a confined humanitarian zone, effectively placing them under Israeli administration. Placing people in concentration camps: is this a measure the IDF takes to reduce civillian casualties? Jews opening concentration camps.
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@elichabassol5238 The Financial Times reported on Israel's plans to reoccupy Gaza and the potential implications for its residents ( Israel readies plans for occupation of Gaza , 25th March). These plans involve relocating Gaza's 2.2 million residents into a confined humanitarian zone, effectively placing them under Israeli administration. Concentrating people together in camps – I dunno what you call these: is this a measure the IDF takes to reduce civilian casualties?
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@elichabassol5238 For supporting the attacks on Gaza, history will judge you as complicit – whether through indifference, or wilful ignorance.
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For supporting the attacks on Gaza, history will judge you as complicit – whether through indifference, or wilful ignorance.
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In recent years, Douglas Murray has been subtly mainstreaming ideas that were central to Nazi ideology – such as eugenics, white supremacism, and fears of demographic threats. These dangerous concepts were defeated along with the Nazis, yet Murray appears to be reviving and repackaging them under the guise of mainstream conservatism. By framing these ideas as reasonable concerns, he risks normalising extremist views and undermining the lessons history has taught us about the consequences of such ideologies.
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@mikemines2931 If Douglas Murray does not promote the Great Replacement theory, eugenics, or ideas of cultural superiority, how do you interpret his warnings about demographic shifts in Europe, his critiques of immigration policies, and his emphasis on preserving Western culture — especially given the parallels between his arguments and those used by proponents of these ideologies?
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@ If Douglas Murray does not promote the Great Replacement theory, eugenics, or ideas of cultural superiority… What evidence supports the claim that he does not advocate these theories or ideologies ?
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Don't you think you need evidence for such a claim?
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@ For far-right numpties it is but for educated and critical thinkers it isn't. Simple.
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@therepublicofcynica For your Brown-shirted brethren it is, but not for critical thinkers and educated people.
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OK, let's talk about capitalist exploitation. If capitalism does not exploit workers, why do business owners profit from the labour of their employees while paying them only a fraction of the value they produce? If wages are fair compensation, why is labour treated as a cost to be minimised while profits are maximised?
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@ OK, let's talk about inherited wealth. If capitalism is based on merit and hard work, why do individuals born into wealthy families have significantly greater economic opportunities than those born into poverty? How does inherited wealth align with the idea of a fair and competitive market?
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@brido88 Why not engage with Marx's ideas rather than using some foolish slurs? For example on alienation: if Marx’s theory of alienation is incorrect, why do so many workers feel disengaged, dissatisfied, or disconnected from their labour, despite rising productivity and technological advancements ?
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@SoMuchFacepalm The idea that the Nazis were socialist is a far-right trope often used to distort historical facts. While the term "National Socialism" was part of the Nazi Party's name, their ideology was fundamentally opposed to socialist principles. Actually, Hitler and the Nazis promoted extreme nationalist, authoritarian, and ultra-conservative policies, all classic far-right traits. They pushed for racial “purity”, anti-Marxism, and the idea of a strong state over individual freedoms. This isn't just opinion – it's well-documented history. What source do you have for this claim? Actually, Hitler wasn’t fond of Marx or his ideas; he was strongly opposed to Marxism and Communism, seeing them as anti-German and internationalist ideologies that clashed with his extreme nationalism. Hitler publicly rejected Marxist ideas, including the concept of class unity, focusing instead on a racial and nationalist agenda. The Nazi Party’s “National Socialism” was very different from Marxist socialism, as it rejected class struggle in favour of an ethnically defined Volksgemeinschaft (“people’s community”).
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