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Comments by "robs2020" (@sbor2020) on "“Massive STAIN On British History” Keir Starmer 'Not Invited' To Donald Trump’s Inauguration" video.

No one can ever explain why! So Claire give us your best shot. What is his crime?
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@wickwicker8575 What specifically has Starmer done that you consider shameful or disgraceful ?
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Do you know that no British Prime Minister has ever attended a US presidential inauguration? Why do you think Starmer would be an exception ? How exactly do you believe figures like Lammy, Sadiq Khan, or the BBC caused the UK’s “exclusion” from an event foreign leaders are never invited to ? Do you think it’s more productive to focus on factual traditions of diplomacy rather than blaming individuals who have no connection to this situation ?
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@OliviaHacking-kf7px 🥱Were I a Starmer supporter I might care. Since I don't voter for the Labour Party, I don't. I consider populist elevation of Trump, Musk and Trump may allow you to feel a vicarious sense of control and significance, even if those figures act against your material interests.
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Explain what it is to be British.
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What is it about Trump’s policies or leadership that you feel aligns with the interests of the UK ? Do you think Trump’s approach to international relations has benefited the UK, and if so, how ?
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What crime do you believe Starmer has committed that would warrant his arrest ? Do you think calling for the arrest of political opponents undermines democratic principles, or do you see it as justified in this case ?
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What specific actions or policies from Starmer do you think have had such a negative impact on the UK ? Do you believe the challenges we're facing are solely due to Starmer, or are there other factors at play ? Can you think of any other leaders who might have handled things better, and what would they have done differently ?
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@ Yeah, pretty simple! 🤣🤣
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What specifically do you think Starmer has destroyed? Could you give some examples to back that up ? Do you believe Starmer is solely responsible for any issues in the UK, or are there broader factors at play ? What would you suggest as a better alternative to Starmer's approach, and how do you think it would work in practice ?
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@steveb951 That's because people who make such claims have nothing .
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@foilrider2000 As Prime Minister, Starmer doesn’t have direct control over the judiciary, as the UK operates under the principle of separation of powers. Blaming him entirely for “destroying faith” in the justice system overlooks how limited a government’s influence over judicial decisions actually is. What specific policies or actions by Starmer’s government do you believe have directly harmed the justice system ? Are you aware that the judiciary in the UK is independent and not directly controlled by the Prime Minister? How do you think this affects your argument ? What reforms or changes would you like to see in the justice system, and how do you think the government should approach them within the limits of their powers ?
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@ Go on, sunshine, explain it to me! You can’t, can you? And what kind of person calls someone who asks for elaboration a 'sad and lost cause'? An unpleasant right-wing populist, perhaps?
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@ Hey, I’m waiting sunshine! So, Starmer only destroyed faith, did he? Not actually destroyed Britain? So it's all part of the WEF plan, is it? You won’t mind providing evidence for that, then, will you? What an "inverted pyramid of piffle" to a Boris Johnson quote!
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@foilrider2000 So you think the UK is run like a “banana republic”. Perhaps it’s because you support the UKIPisation of the UK, advocating for isolationist policies that undermine our global standing. If you voted for Brexit in 2016 and the Tories in 2019, you might have helped pave the way for a system that disproportionately benefits the super-wealthy while keeping working people divided and distracted.
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@foilrider2000 Dismissing someone as a “bot”, for simply asking for clarification and requesting substantiated arguments is hardly a clever approach. Instead of relying on insults, why not focus on making claims you can actually support with facts? If you want to be taken seriously, it’s important to back up your views with evidence and engage in meaningful dialogue, rather than resorting to personal attacks.
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@ So you think the UK is run like a “banana republic”. Perhaps it’s because you support the UKIP-isation of the UK, pushing for isolationist policies that affect our global standing. If you voted for Brexit in 2016 and the Tories in 2019, you may have played a role in creating a system that disproportionately benefits the super wealthy, while keeping working people divided and distracted.
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@sallystrutt6715 Rational?
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Even though you are harvesting "likes", it is based on a misconception. The British Prime Minister has never attended the inauguration of a US President. This is not due to any personal slight or judgment about individual political leaders but simply because it is not customary for foreign leaders to be invited to US presidential inaugurations. Donald Trump not inviting Keir Starmer (or any other British leader) is consistent with this longstanding tradition. Inaugurations are domestic events that focus on the transfer of power within the United States and typically do not involve international leaders. Rather than interpreting this as a personal affront, it’s worth recognising that this practice applies universally and is not a reflection on the UK or its leaders. Ensuring accuracy in these discussions helps foster better understanding between nations and their citizens.
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@ Evidence? Where? When? What? Who? How?
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@ What specifically do you think Starmer has destroyed? Could you give some examples to back that up ? Do you believe Starmer is solely responsible for any issues in the UK, or are there broader factors at play ? What would you suggest as a better alternative to Starmer's approach, and how do you think it would work in practice ?
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@pickleperryemz Are you aware that no British Prime Minister or opposition leader has ever been invited to a US presidential inauguration? Why do you think Starmer would be an exception to this tradition?
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If you believe Trump deliberately snubbed Starmer, why has no British Prime Minister in history ever attended a US presidential inauguration? Could it be because foreign leaders simply aren’t invited to these domestic events ?
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Shouldn't he be representing Clacton?
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If you believe Trump deliberately snubbed Starmer, why has no British Prime Minister in history ever attended a US presidential inauguration? Could it be because foreign leaders simply aren’t invited to these domestic events ?
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Do people even know Starmer in the US?
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@ So you can tell us this. Since 1789, none of the 57 British Prime Ministers were invited to a U.S. presidential inauguration until Margaret Thatcher attended Ronald Reagan's in 1981. Technically, this means every British PM before Thatcher - approximately 48 of them - did not attend. However, this was due to historical and logistical reasons, not because of deliberate exclusion. So why is not inviting Keir Starmer considered a snub?
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@ You don’t seem to realise that Nigel Farage is not attending the inauguration as a representative of Britain; he is there in a personal capacity. Farage. He is MP for Clacton-on-Sea, and is neither a world leader nor holds any official position in the UK government. It’s important to distinguish between formal invitations extended to world leaders for diplomatic purposes and personal invitations, which reflect individual relationships or political alignment. Farage’s presence is not indicative of Britain’s official stance or representation at the event but rather a testament to his personal connections. Conflating the two misunderstands the nature of his attendance and the protocols surrounding international events like inaugurations.
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@ Trump has invited populist leaders from around the world, including Giorgia Meloni, Viktor Orbán, and Javier Milei. While Nigel Farage is not an official world leader, his invitation was a personal one.
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@BillieBailey-th3lc Cheers, I get plenty of exercise in the forest outside my apartment, thank you! There is nothing quite like a populist displaying that familiar chip on their shoulder. What’s wrong with education? Why is encouraging people to critically evaluate their positions seen as a threat? Isn’t the whole point of education to broaden perspectives, foster critical thinking, and encourage open-minded discussions? It seems that the fear of challenging one's views is often rooted in insecurity, but questioning and learning are essential to a healthy, democratic society. That is why I’d much prefer to hear your perspective, as I’m genuinely interested in understanding what aspects of Trump’s policies or leadership you believe align with the UK’s interests. How do you think his approach to international relations has benefited the UK? It would be great to hear your thoughts rather than just dismissing the question.
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Liar.
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@rayvinloony2322 Does the CPS make decisions about every conviction? That is not evidence, that is an assumption based on misunderstanding.
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@ You! You have no evidence for such claims. It's important to approach these topics with evidence and critical thinking. The claim that Keir Starmer let off Jimmy Savile is not supported by the facts. Keir Starmer, as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP), was not personally involved in the decision not to prosecute Savile. An independent review found that the decision was made by local Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) staff and that it was based on the evidence available at the time, which was insufficient for a prosecution.
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If Jimmy Savile were alive today, it’s likely that he would be a supporter of Reform UK. Similarly, many of those who defended Russell Brand in the past would probably find themselves backing "their man Jimmy" as well.
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@ So what? Move on! Trump has invited populist leaders from around the world, including Giorgia Meloni, Viktor Orbán, and Javier Milei. While Nigel Farage is certainly no world leader, his invitation was a personal one. It's crucial to understand the difference between diplomatic invitations extended to heads of state and those offered to individuals based on personal or political connections. As you rightly said, political leaders are generally not invited to the inauguration, as it is a domestic event focused on the transfer of power within the United States.
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What is it about Trump’s policies or leadership that you feel aligns with the interests of the UK ? Do you think Trump’s approach to international relations has benefited the UK, and if so, how ?
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@blondie75ful Trump has invited populist leaders from around the world, including Giorgia Meloni, Viktor Orbán, and Javier Milei. While Nigel Farage is not an official world leader, his invitation was a personal one. It's crucial to understand the difference between diplomatic invitations extended to heads of state and those offered to individuals based on personal or political connections. Additionally, as has been pointed out, political leaders are generally not invited to the inauguration, as it is a domestic event focused on the transfer of power within the United States.
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@ Just the kinda guys you want as leaders! Why not move to Russia?
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Ron DeSanctimonious Little Marco Lyin' Ted Crooked Hillary Pencil Neck Adam Schiff Trump is no stranger to juvenile insults – it's one of his go-to tactics. Like any bully, he can dish it out but can’t take it. Compliment him, and he’ll likely forget any criticism – classic narcissist behaviour!
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@ And I thought you people wanted internment camps!
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@ I am sorry, can you explain?
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Do you know that no British Prime Minister has ever attended a US presidential inauguration? Why do you think Starmer would be an exception ?
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No he didn't.
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What is it about Trump’s policies or leadership that you feel aligns with the interests of the UK ? Do you think Trump’s approach to international relations has benefited the UK, and if so, how ?
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What about Trump VC? Didn't he say "hurty" things about Trump? People like you ignore the facts, don't you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@ Sorry, I meant VP!
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What specifically has Starmer done that you consider shameful or disgraceful ? Do you think he’s worse than other recent political leaders? If so, why ? What qualities or actions would you like to see in a leader instead of what Starmer represents ?
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What specific actions has Starmer taken that you believe qualify as “crimes against humanity ”? Do you have any evidence to support this claim, or is this more of a personal opinion ? How do you think such serious accusations should be addressed, and do you think they undermine constructive political debate ?
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What specifically has Starmer done that you consider disgusting or disgraceful ? Do you think he’s worse than other recent political leaders? If so, why ? What qualities or actions would you like to see in a leader instead of what Starmer represents ?
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For what exactly? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Let's deal in facts for ONCE. How many UK Prime Ministers have attended the inaugurations of the US Presidents?
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@RedMac63 Trump has invited Giorgia Meloni, Viktor Orbán, and Javier Milei. See the connection? Not to mention Katie Hopkins!
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Just as 64% of the electorate didn’t vote for Brexit, yet some still insist on championing the so-called “will of the people."
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What is it about Trump’s policies or leadership that you feel aligns with the interests of the UK ? Do you think Trump’s approach to international relations has benefited the UK, and if so, how ?
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@ To what?
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@ There was never an invite! 🤪⠀⠀⠀
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@ Simple answer, probably indicating grievance and an easy solution, but EVERYTHING to what? That Trump's policies align with those of the UK? So how does the UK benefit?
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If Brexit “was never implemented,” how do you explain the UK leaving the EU, exiting the Single Market, and taking control of its borders? What exactly do you think wasn’t delivered ? Are you suggesting that the economic challenges, trade disruptions, and loss of free movement post-Brexit were somehow caused by the EU, rather than by the UK’s own decisions after leaving ? How do you reconcile the claim of “electoral democracy being treated like trash” when the UK government enacted the referendum result, even after widespread warnings of the potential consequences ? Do you believe electoral democracy only applies to the referendum outcome, or should it also extend to people questioning and debating the results and their impact on the country ?
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What evidence do you have that Starmer is working for the WEF? Could you share specific examples or sources? Do you think politicians engaging with international organisations like the WEF is inherently bad, or does it depend on the policies they support?
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Who was the last PM to attend the US President's inauguration? Then tell us who of those PM was the most incompetent!
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Quiz question: Who was the last UK Prime Minister to attend a US presidential inauguration ?
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@ I beg your pardon?
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@ Correct! No PM has ever been invited, so why are right-wing populists making a big deal now?
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And JD Vance? Anyway, do you know that no British Prime Minister has ever attended a US presidential inauguration? Why do you think Starmer would be an exception ?
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@ So why is Starmer not going to the inauguration?
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@ Those of you who constantly rant about Marxism and Communism clearly have no understanding of what you're talking about. Once upon a time, these terms were misused primarily as a shorthand for "un-American," but now, to hear British populists adopting the same rhetoric is even more absurd. It highlights not only a lack of historical and ideological knowledge but also an eagerness to misuse these concepts as vague insults, detached from their actual meaning or context.
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@ Simple! So that means Biden is not a two or four faced hypocrite not to have invited Boris Johnson. I geddit!
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@ It’s interesting that you trace Marxist and communist ideologies through such a broad historical lens, but there are a few points worth unpacking. Equating intellectualism with disdain for populism oversimplifies both perspectives. Emotional intelligence is certainly valuable, but so is critical thinking and informed debate – qualities that come from education, not just at Harvard but at any institution that encourages analysis and dialogue. You also use the phrase “all fur coat and no knickers”, which implies appearance without substance. Isn’t it fair to ask if such accusations could apply to any political ideology, including populism, which often relies on emotional appeals over practical solutions? Rather than painting groups with broad strokes, wouldn’t it be more productive to focus on specific policies and their impacts? On the topic of emotional intelligence, supporting wars in Gaza and Ukraine isn’t exactly evidence of it. If anything, it reflects a disturbing lack of humanity and a tendency toward dehumanisation. It’s ironic that you claim emotional superiority while promoting narrow, divisive thinking. Since you seem to value nationalism so highly, let me share my background: I was born and raised in England, and my family has a proud history of service. My uncle fought with Monty’s Eighth Army, and my grandfather served alongside Kitchener at Omdurman and in the First World War. What I can’t stand are false patriots – those who claim to love their country but harm it by pushing parochial views that divide and weaken us. Real patriotism is about striving for the best for everyone in the nation, not clinging to outdated, insular ideas that isolate us from the world and undermine our progress as a country.
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@janicebirch7522 You seem to be missing the point, and your reading abilities appear to be quite limited. What does it matter where I was born? Would you like to see my birth certificate to validate my argument? The focus should be on the ideas and perspectives being discussed, not on irrelevant personal details. I’m more interested in engaging with the substance of the conversation rather than getting caught up in such distractions. I never stated I fought in the army; I simply mentioned that my uncle and grandfather served, which is part of my family history. As for whether my parents were English, they were. However, I believe it’s important to separate one’s heritage from the ideas and values they hold. Regarding your point about lived experience, I don’t see why living in England currently would invalidate my perspective on the country’s future or the issues we face. Many of us, no matter where we live, care deeply about the well-being of our nation. It’s about considering ideas and policies with an open mind, not just geography. Shouldn’t the strength of an argument lie in its merit, rather than where someone happens to live?
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I am sure Reform UK will remain silent on the Russian interference in the 2016 referendum.
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