Comments by "robs2020" (@sbor2020) on "‘Mocking Christianity Absolutely Fine But Not Islam’ | Britain Under ‘De Facto’ Blasphemy Law" video.

Evidence does not support your claim. We are a secular country...... End of !!!!!!!!!
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”When Muslims are in the minority, they are very concerned with minority rights. When they are in the majority, there are no minority rights.” – Winston Churchill
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"Never forget, a well-dressed marmalade is the backbone of any successful Thursday." – Winston Churchill
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"A cucumber in the hand is worth two in the parliament." – Winston Churchill
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@chrissmith6650 I get you, so what you are saying is that Britain has values such as: Respect : Treating others with dignity, regardless of their differences. Honesty : Being truthful and transparent in thoughts, words, and actions. Compassion : Showing empathy and kindness to others in need. Responsibility : Being accountable for one’s actions and contributing to the well-being of society. Fairness : Acting with equity and justice, ensuring everyone gets equal opportunities. Gratitude : Appreciating what one has and recognising the efforts of others. Love : Demonstrating care and affection for others, fostering connection. Humility : Being modest about one’s achievements and open to learning. Integrity : Upholding moral principles and staying true to one’s values. Perseverance : Showing determination and resilience in the face of challenges.
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"Victory often smells faintly of porridge left in the rain." – Winston Churchill
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"To argue with a hedgehog is to invite tea with the absurd." – Winston Churchill
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@I-have-blue-hair Exactly!
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@Hypestrike1 “I should think it was hardly possible to state the opposite of the truth with more precision.” – Winston Churchill (this one Churchill actually said)
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@Hypestrike1 Is the quote a fair generalisation of Muslim communities globally, or does it fail to consider the diversity of perspectives within those communities? An irony lost on the populist Right.
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@alandavies55 I see where you're coming from, but I think it’s important to recognise that many UK laws and traditions are based on universal values like fairness, justice, and respect, which aren’t unique to Christianity. While Christianity has definitely influenced aspects of UK culture – like holidays such as Christmas or the role of the Church of England – these values also predate Christianity and can be found in other traditions. For instance, Roman law, pagan customs, and Enlightenment principles have all played key roles in shaping the UK’s legal and cultural framework. It’s more accurate to see it as a blend of influences rather than the work of just one religion! Also, it’s worth noting – as an example – that the 1689 Bill of Rights, a cornerstone of the UK’s constitutional framework, was heavily influenced by John Locke’s Enlightenment ideas about governance. Locke emphasised concepts like individual rights, the separation of powers, and the social contract, which weren’t derived directly from Christianity but rather from reason and universal principles. This shows how Enlightenment thinking, alongside other influences, played a significant role in shaping the UK's laws and traditions. Christianity was part of the mix, but it wasn’t the sole foundation.
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Who are "they"? There shouldn’t be a need for laws like blasphemy laws, even if they’re called something like ‘Islamophobia legislation.’ These laws can blur the line between protecting people from hate and shutting down free speech. The real issue is the division and hate in society – if we tackled that, we wouldn’t need these kinds of laws. True freedom means speaking your mind while respecting others. It’s about responsibility, not just saying or doing whatever you like.
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SONofTHC Isaac died when he was 180 years old. Unbelievable? Not to someone who believes he married his three-year old cousin! Also Little Red Riding Hood wasn't eaten by a wolf dressed as her grandma. Not to mention Brexit benefits are not just around the corner. 🤣🤣
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@tomrigby7016 We are a secular country. Not happy with that? You can move to Pitcairn Islands where 100% of people are Christians rather than about 35%.
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@DoYouSlice Deform UK!
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@Hypestrike1 An astute perspective! Muslim-majority countries vary widely in their treatment of minorities, ranging from inclusive protections to restrictive policies. Historical systems like dhimmi offered protections to Jews and Christians in the Ottoman Empire - but also imposed limitations, reflecting the norms of their time. Context matters - blanket generalisations like this miss the nuanced diversity within Islamic and secular governance systems.
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@ramoji9830 It might feel that way, but the geopolitical landscape - the world scene - is far more nuanced, with diverse outcomes depending on local histories, cultures, and governance systems. While some places show tensions aligning with this view, others demonstrate coexistence and minority protections that challenge such generalisations. One example is example is Indonesia, the world’s largest Muslim-majority country, where Pancasila, the state ideology, promotes religious pluralism. The government officially recognizes six religions, including Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism, and protects the rights of these religious minorities to worship and celebrate their festivals.
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@goyim6866 I read History at Bristol, taught the subject for five years in a secondary school, so maybe you can recommend a book that provides all your right-wing biases for the lowly educated
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@cupra2Jock. "Our" second greatest man: do you mean WSC? Can you give me the source of the quote!
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@ramoji9830 You mention “Islamic fundamentalism,” but would it be fair to judge the Church of England – or any other Christian denomination – by the standards of Christian fundamentalism? This comparison highlights the risk of conflating diverse traditions within a religion with its most extreme or rigid interpretations. Just as Christianity encompasses a wide range of beliefs and practices, so too does Islam, which includes many perspectives, from progressive to conservative, across its global community. Making such distinctions is essential for a balanced and informed understanding. How can we avoid judging a whole religion based on its most extreme groups ?
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@ramoji9830 A massive generalisation, isn’t it? That "nobody is suffering from Christian fundamentalism" is inaccurate, as there are documented cases of harm caused by extremist groups or policies rooted in Christian fundamentalist ideologies, particularly in areas such as LGBTQ+ rights, women's reproductive freedoms, and sectarian violence in regions like Africa and the U.S. Similarly, while Islamic fundamentalism has caused suffering in certain parts of the world, attributing global suffering solely to it overlooks the complexities of extremism across various ideologies and contexts. How might focusing solely on one form of extremism, while ignoring others, affect our understanding of the broader issues of radicalism and its impact on societies worldwide ?
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@ramoji9830 It is true that many rights for LGBTQ+ individuals were first recognised in predominantly Christian-majority countries, but this progress is largely tied to secular governance and Enlightenment ideals rather than Christianity itself, as many Christian doctrines have historically opposed LGBTQ+ rights. While acceptance of LGBTQ+ rights varies significantly across the Muslim world, it is important to recognise that attitudes toward such issues are shaped by a mix of cultural, religious, and political factors, not solely by Islam.
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@ramoji9830 Islam is a diverse religion with various sects, schools of thought, and cultural practices that shape how its principles are interpreted and followed. The differences between Sunni and Shia Muslims, as well as various regional interpretations, demonstrate that Islam cannot be seen as a single, unified belief system. How might understanding the diversity within Islam challenge stereotypes and promote a more nuanced view of the religion ?
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@ramoji9830 To sum up, the diversity within religious traditions, including Islam and Christianity, highlights the importance of understanding different interpretations and perspectives. While sacred texts may be foundational, the way they are interpreted varies significantly across cultures, sects, and historical contexts. Recognising this complexity allows for a more nuanced view, challenging stereotypes and promoting greater understanding of how beliefs shape societies. From your point of view, there seems to be a concern about the consistency of religious teachings across different sects, and seeing Islam as a unified religion.
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@790-t2k What about a country that does not allow a Catholic to be a monarch? The UK still enforces this through the Bill of Rights (1689) and the Act of Settlement (1701), which require the monarch to be Protestant. Even as Protestants become a minority, these laws highlight how minority rights often depend on legal safeguards, not just numbers.
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@boshboshbosh1 Why are you talking about occupation? There's a big world out there. You have made the world small because you are small . Wilhelm Reich, Listen, Little Man .
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@boshboshbosh1 The original statement makes a general claim, which inadvertently universalises the idea, suggesting it applies broadly or universally. However, the intention may actually be to particularise the claim, focusing on a specific instance or context. Although the claim is attributed to WSC, the act of framing it as a generalisation diminishes the specificity and situational nuance that may have been intended in the original context. That's why!
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@mzzm5919 It's important to approach this question with an understanding of the diversity within Muslim-majority countries and their legal systems. There are examples of countries where minority rights, including religious freedoms, are protected by law. For instance: Indonesia : While it is the world's largest Muslim-majority country, its constitution guarantees religious freedom. Recognised religions, including Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism, have legal protections. However, the implementation of these rights can vary regionally. Jordan : Its constitution ensures freedom of religion and protects minority groups. Christians, for example, have representation in parliament and can practice their faith openly. Tunisia : Since its 2014 constitution, Tunisia has made strides in protecting religious freedoms and ensuring equality. Its legal framework supports freedom of conscience and belief. Senegal : Known for its religious tolerance, Senegal has a majority-Muslim population but also protects the rights of its Christian minority and promotes interfaith harmony. However, it's essential to acknowledge that challenges remain in many regions, and the protection of minority rights often depends on a combination of legal frameworks, cultural attitudes, and political contexts. Comparing this with the diversity in other religious-majority countries can highlight that no single tradition has a monopoly on inclusivity or exclusivity. Your question underscores the need for nuanced discussions that go beyond stereotypes to explore how various factors – legal, cultural, and historical – shape the lived experiences of minorities in any context.
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@ESKFmma You people are obsessed with pedos, bodies in the 21st century, minds in the medieval witch trials. Another 200 years and you might reach the age of Englishtenment.
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@goyim6866 Having read a History book, to what extent do you think the UK's laws and traditions are influenced more by Christianity or by a broader range of historical, cultural, and philosophical influences, such as Roman law, Enlightenment ideas, and pre-Christian customs? How does this impact our understanding of the country's legal and cultural development?
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@headrushproductions4795 I presented a 200-word argument explaining that, while Christianity has influenced UK culture, its laws and traditions are shaped by a mix of factors, including universal values, Roman law, pagan customs, and Enlightenment principles – exemplified by John Locke’s contributions to the 1689 Bill of Rights. Your support is "end of." Just remember, you "Deformers" are not in primary school anymore. Try punctuation for a start!!!!!
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@goyim6866 No reply, I must asume you do not even read. When told to read a History book, you people are at best semi-literate.
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@stefyc-p3k The UK is considered a secular country rather than a Christian one, as there is a formal separation of Church and State. This principle ensures that religious institutions and governmental bodies operate independently, with no single religion dominating the political or legal system. However, the British monarch holds a unique dual role, serving both as the Head of State and the Supreme Governor of the Church of England. This historical connection between the monarchy and the Church reflects Britain’s Christian heritage, but it does not undermine the secular nature of the nation. In modern Britain, the government and society are characterised by pluralism and inclusivity, embracing diverse beliefs and practices while maintaining a neutral stance toward religion in public policy and governance.
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@KuruKungHo How patronising! I am 58 year old former History teacher! Secularism emerged in societies influenced by Christianity, but it is not tied to any single religion. If UK laws and traditions were shaped solely by Christianity, how do you explain the influence of Roman law, Enlightenment principles, and pre-Christian customs on the country’s legal and cultural development? Could ignoring these contributions oversimplify the complexities of history ?
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@Sidowse As I stated three months ago, UK culture has been shaped by a blend of influences, including Roman law, pagan customs, and Enlightenment principles, rather than solely by Christianity. While Christianity has contributed to traditions like holidays and the role of the Church of England, many values predate it and are shared with other traditions.
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