Comments by "robs2020" (@sbor2020) on ""It's Infested Western Civilization" Former Reform UK Deputy Leader Ben Habib BLASTS Immigration" video.
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Research from before the 2016 referendum indicates that substantial net migration to the UK was likely to continue, regardless of the Leave or Remain outcome.
Leave Scenario: If the UK leaves the EU, migration restrictions could lead to a modest reduction in immigration, but the UK would still likely receive over 500,000 immigrants annually, with net migration above 200,000. We may see fewer low-skilled workers and more students, alongside a potential rise in irregular migration due to visa overstays.
Remain Scenario: If the UK remains in the EU, current migration trends are expected to continue, with net migration possibly remaining above 600,000.
In conclusion, no matter the referendum result, high levels of immigration were anticipated, impacting migration patterns and policies significantly.
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@Lollyng3ms It seems you believe you have expert knowledge but are withholding information from me. However, shouldn’t you be asking why people fail to see capitalism as the problem? Capitalism and neoliberalism are broader systems of oppression closely tied to systemic exploitation. These systems erode identity, undermine collective action, and strip civil and labour rights in pursuit of cheaper resources and labour to maximize profits. Immigration is part of this cycle of exploitation, and further measures – like leaving the ECHR – are presented as solutions to this exploitation.
In contrast, a truly democratic society emphasises participatory democracy, where citizens are directly involved in decision-making through mechanisms like citizen assemblies, referendums, and participatory budgeting. Such approaches, like the UK's Climate Assembly and local participatory budgeting initiatives, can increase trust and legitimacy, improve decision-making, and foster accountability and social cohesion.
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@FreeMcSpeech Perhaps they are. The UK is not included in the Dublin Accord, the EU regulation which allowed the UK to return asylum seekers to the first EU country they entered. After Brexit, the UK lost this privilege, which actually makes managing immigration more complex, not simpler.
The UK needed to establish new bilateral agreements with EU countries to manage the return of migrants. Negotiating these agreements and ensuring they are effective can be complex and time-consuming. Without these agreements, returning migrants who have travelled through multiple countries became more challenging.
Do I believe they are asylum seekers? I honestly don't know. Does that make me gullible or naive for admitting uncertainty? I don't think so. I don't view them as a homogenous group or make sweeping generalisations. Instead, consider each case is assessed on an individual basis.
The previous government was slow to establish bilateral agreements, did not set up processing centre(s) in France, and the processing has been migrants has been shockingly slow. The current Labour government's Border Security Bill , announced in July, suggests a shift towards stricter border control. It focuses on cracking down on people-smuggling gangs, increasing penalties for immigration crimes, and fast-tracking deportations for those from "safe countries." While this bill takes a tougher stance on illegal immigration, time will tell whether it will be effective or create further challenges.
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