Youtube comments of Entropic Pedro (@entropicpedro7494).
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I like the way you casually ignore the concept of consent.
Everyone has kids for their sake. They want something from the kids; hope, labour, retirement investment, social standing etc. This is the point Schopenhauer, Benatar, Cioran, Mainländer and all the other pessimist philosophers make. Nobody ever has kids for the sake of the individual kids needs.
There is absolutely zero moral or ethical reason to have kids for the sake of the kid. All the reasons people put out there are all selfish.
You're saying that kids are the source of hope for climate change and its consequences. That's kinda f#cked up TBH, throwing all your bullshit everywhere to only tell an innocent life that had no part of said bullshittery to clean it all up. Especially when almost no one is willing to make the necessary sacrifices to make sure climate change doesn't get as bad as we think. You yourself Michael said you aren't willing to give up meat even though it's the most polluting food. Almost no one is willing to drastically cut back on their lifestyle to reduce their carbon footprint. We still measure progress, wealth and well-being with infinite growth as if that's possible in a world with finite resources. We are essentially robbing the future generations their future for our present satisfaction. It's sadistic TBH.
Every single Natalist is just rationalizing their selfishness, narcissism and Sadism. Arendt and that author you mentioned at the end of the video included.
I'll leave you with a quote from Cioran, "To have committed every crime than that of being a father."
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Jesus Christ, this is hopium at best and cringe at worst.
First of all let's start with the word, "pessimistic". That word immediately invokes the idea of a person with a perception or awareness of "the worst". And you yourself acknowledged this. It's already too late to avert "the worst" of climate change. The IPCC report will tell you that clearly. The best we can do is adapt to "the worst"
Doomers are doomers for many reasons and I'm sure most are aware things are being done. They're just resigned to the fact that what needs to be done is not being done fast enough at the scale required to avert "the worst." Again as the IPCC report will show.
Doomers are aware that their future is uncertain. The full physical effects of the feedback loops of climate change unknown, the socio-economic stresses of these loops unknown (spoiler alert, a warmer world is a more violent one).
It's really inconsiderate to tell people to just throw their anxieties dread and panic about the loss of their way of life and possibility of the unattainability of their hopes and dreams because the scale, the disruptions, the losses, the sheer fucking gravity of all this.
In fact it is the same doomers resigned to the inevitability of all of this that are preppers, that are vegans, that are antinatalist, that are protestors, that are eco-t*#$7!&+s.
So telling people not to be pessimitic is just hopium at best, and cringe at worst. I'm not saying delusional because you seem pretty aware of the gravity of the situation, but not the gravity of the inevitability of its effects.
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@jonnym4670 and casually ignoring how the CIA indirectly and who knows maybe even directly worked with, funded and trained them and Osama...
And bigger attack? And also, weren't the 9/11 guys Saudi? So what were y'all doing creating power vacuums and throwing people into poverty traps in Afghanistan?
And don't get me started on the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq...
You want to send your child to the Middle East to kill a another child in the Middle East who doesn't even know why they're being attacked, be my guest...
Your child will only be dying so that the stocks of some war profiteering company run by some tanned, greasy haired, $30,000 suit, salary of $100 million per month CEO at the top floor of some glass skyscraper and his pot-bellied shareholders. A company that just sucks in your taxpayer money like a black hole while your people lack universal care, crumble under student debt, lack funds for mental healthcare to stop the mass shootings running rampant, etc
Those same companies that fund the campaigns of your politicians using profits they made from your taxpayer money to get favours and wars to sell their equipment at inflated prices to...
War is a racket.
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@Tokomi uh friend I'm Kenyan... and Africa is 54 different distinct countries, you have North Africa which is basically the middle East, there's Western Africa, there's central Africa, Eastern Africa, Southern Africa....
It took an entire continent to enslave us BTW, Britain,France(which is still at it in Francophone Africa) Germany, Belgium etc
You're just going to seriously sit there and with a straight face say that one country will
1.)take away the rights
2.)force into unpaid labour
3.)throw into concentration camps
4.)Rob, plunder and steal
5.)Erase all the culture and diversity
of over 2 billion people? LOL!!!
Here in Kenya we already have Chinese people living working and even married with Kenyan men and women??
China already has enough problems with the West and Asia, it needs the fastest growing region on their side rather than against it
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@pranavtalwalkar9812 do you know what communism as an economic policy, system and model is?
For one thing, under communism, there are no private companies...so WTF are the likes of multi-national corporations like Huawei, Apple, Alibaba, Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Tesla, Mercedes, Toyota etc doing in a communist country like China?
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Economically...it would be rough but could be smoothened out with a little common good will(despite Kenya and Uganda's little trade wars), geographically, I don't see why not, politically tho, that's another story. Tanzania and Kenya have a love-hate relationship, where Tanzania had a protectionist President(Museveni RIP) who was constantly messing up commerce with Kenya and that left a bad taste in the mouths of both Kenyans and TZs...tho his replacement Pres. Suluhu has been more forthcoming and diplomatic, whether that will spread to the rest of the TZnian govt. remains to be seen. Speaking of TZian govt, it is a one party state and many of its opposition leaders have fled to hide in Kenya. Uganda has an autocratic leader committing crimes against humanity every year and his political opponents whenever threatened keep running for safety in Kenya. And also the autocratic regimes of Uganda(Museveni) and Rwanda(Kagame) have their own little beef that has been cooking up for decades now and then there's the thing between Rwanda and Congo as well.
It's just, the political will to make this happen currently just isn't there in the moment, in the future however, late 2020's early 2030's that might change...
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@katemucklow1696 civilized? Yeah probably, peaceful? I doubt that. Asia: Myanmar, N.Korea, India
Europe:Russia, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan,
Americas: deep breath Colombia, Venezuela, Mexico, El Salvador, Haiti, etc etc etc etc...
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@joelrebollar7055 depression and sadness are significant parts of my life, but not completely the whole, the fact is that to live is to suffer and if I had a choice I would have preferred to not have been existed... And before you ask me, why not commit die, because well mom would be sad
I'm not pushing my antinatalist ideology on anyone, I'm just saying that for some of us not having children is not selfish but selfless bc, if you really think about it, no one has kids with the needs of the kids in mind, it's always about the needs of the people having kids who hope that in having them, those needs will be satisfied, and thus life swings like a pendulum between pain and boredom
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@garybaris139 I literally live and have grown up on the outskirts of Kibera, the biggest slum in Africa and I can tell you for a fact, that I've seen firsthand what improved education, infrastructure such as roads, access to credit, affordable healthcare and welfare can do to raise people's standards of living...but only so much is possible in a country as corrupt as ours where the richest family, of which our current president belongs in, owns almost if not more than a quarter, even possibly a half of all arable land in the country, I'm saying half now bc of declining fertility and climate change...
But these are people in the urban areas, there's work and markets here...go to the rural sides however...
Where 12 year old kids and above carry guns to protect their livestock from cattle rustlers and the kids fortunate enough to go to school have to be escorted by the army due to fear of tribal retaliatory attacks...these guys are poor not by choice...
And also the whole "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" argument has been received well and my generation has come to the conclusion you have to make it in life by all means necessary, killing, stealing bc that's exactly how most of the rich in my country got rich, if they inherited their wealth then that's how their fathers and grandfathers got rich... literally everyday there's a corruption scandal in the news...
In fact this is so much the fact that the Islamic radicalists are capitalizing on this, because this has been accepted as reality, the probability of you living a good life by honest means is extremely low, so why not get your hands dirty or bloody and try your luck...
So is poverty a choice here?
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Death, loss, disease, injury, cruelty, mental illness, conflict, pain, war, scarcity etc. All of these, every single being that lives past 5 years has to experience, directly or indirectly. Suffering is the dominant aspect of life in our reality, irregardless of the intensity of that experience.
Have a bit of compassion and consider, is it really crazy that some people look at all these ills that plague our existence and decide not to subject an innocent blameless soul to such a fate?
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