Comments by "Morgan King" (@MorganKing95) on "Top 24 Oscar Bait FAILURES of Each Year (2000 - 2023)" video.
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@ItsMichaelFlinn
The intro never said that the criteria was movies that didn’t receive any Oscar nods. They said, “but failed the big time, whether it was at the Oscars, with critics, or the audience” and “didn’t win much more than a spot on this list”. The former quote indicates the following scenarios:
- It didn’t win the BIGGEST awards at the Oscars (since “big time” means “highest level”, so in that sense it’s the most prestigious Oscar awards they’re talking about), and it wasn’t successful with critics or audiences.
- It didn’t win the biggest awards at the Oscars but was viewed favourably by critics and audiences. This is a possibility because “whether” and “or” indicate different alternatives.
- It did receive smaller awards at the Oscars, since “big time” points to the biggest awards at the Oscars, but it wasn’t viewed particularly well by critics or audiences. Again, a possibility because “whether” and “or” indicate alternatives.
The latter quote on the other hand indicates that it won something since “not much more” is not synonymous with “nothing”. The difference between you and me is that I actually refer to that was said in the criteria, while you resort to assumptions and twisting the definitions to your advantage without using actual argumentation.
But since you’re so fixated on the whole “must not have earned Oscar nods” criteria, let’s look at some movies that are considered failed Oscar bait:
- Don’t Look Up
- Australia
- Vice
- Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close
- House of Gucci
- Babylon
- Nine
- War Horse
- The Book Thief
- Invictus
- The Post
- The Lovely Bones
What do all these have in common? They received at least 1 Oscar nomination. Hmmm… isn’t that bizarre? It’s almost as if “Failed Oscar bait” isn’t synonymous with “Failed Oscar nomination” after all. Your argument is officially refuted!
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@blackguyofthesouth2161
I didn't literally mean that it's a consolation prize, and no matter how you slice it, Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay, and the acting nods, are the biggest ones, closely followed by Best Editing. If you do everything in your might to win an Oscar, even if it's too obvious, try-hard, and "formulaic, and all you get are nods for some visual aspects, it definitely feels like a letdown, unlike with a movie that doesn't seem like it was made to win Oscars anyway (whether it's an indie movie, a fantasy flick, or an action thriller)
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