Comments by "Morgan King" (@MorganKing95) on "Top 10 Supporting Actors That Stole The Show" video.
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+PrinceTrexus
Leo was hammy and whiny and reminded me of an overgrown teen with a superiority complex, and his death scene looked staged. I can't even remember any good gestures, viewpoints, or tableaus from him.
Compared to villain performances like Marlon Brando in "A Streetcar Named Desire", Heath Ledger in "The Dark Knight", Anthony Perkins in "Psycho", Daniel Day-Lewis in 'Gangs of New York", Joe Pesci in "GoodFellas", Ralph Fiennes in "Schindler's List", Forest Whitaker in "The Last King of Scotland", and J.K. Simmons in "Whiplash", Leo doesn't grasp villain portrayals.
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EgyptianMinor
I’m impressed that you actually used a book source instead of the internet, but even then I stand by my word. If my choice is to use books that are specifically meant for theatre concepts (in this case protagonist, antagonist, etc.) and an encyclopedia or dictionary that is meant for anyone, I’ll definitely go for the former. Similarly, if I want to learn about method acting and I have a choice between using the internet or to read Lee Strasberg’s personal notes, I will not even consider going for the former.
And if you have to be all linguistic with me, then the etymology of “protagonist” is “protos” (first) and “agonistes” (Combatant, pleader, actor), while “antagonist” comes from “anti” (against) and “agonistes” (combatant, pleader, actor). “Deuteragonist” and “Tritagonist” come from “deuter” (second) and “trit” (third) respectively.
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@ashoikiesaunders721
Yes, the adversary of the protagonist. And what kind of person was the protagonist Henry Hill? He was someone who said he always wanted to be a gangster, who let gangsters beat up postmen, who pointed guns towards the temple of wounded people, who laughed at Tommy's sadistic stories, who got arrested, and who was selling drugs. Tommy really isn't opposed to that since he's a violent psychopath from the same Mafia family. Henry becoming an informant for the FBI is on one hand not really different from an antagonist reforming, but since Henry is the point-of-view character and he's obviously amoral and part of a universe that glorifies violence, drugs, and prostitution, then it's more comparable to someone joining the bad guys since the police are the antagonists to the Mafia.
Of course I know that "GoodFellas" is meant to be ironic; they're all violent criminals, but from their perspective and the angle the film has chosen, they're the good guys, so it's ironic because their definition of "goodness" is the opposite of the general definition, and their views of the word only appear when looking at the twisted world they're part of.
Bringing up the real-life Tommy DeSimone is irrelevant since it all depends on what angle the film chooses. Hitler is the protagonist of "Der Untergang" because of the angle the film is shown from even though Hitler is more commonly portrayed as the antagonist in media where the protagonist represents the opposition to the Nazi party
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@Solo_Traveling
YouTube has multiple movie critics available, such as Doug Walker, Lindsay Ellis, Big Joel, Schaffrillas Productions, Jenny Nicholson, and Musical Hell, so YouTube isn't just YouTube and therefore not an excuse.
What David Hume's got to do with this? Multiple things! If you've actually have read "The standard of taste" (which you obviously haven't), you'll know that his main philosophy was to present requirements for the art critic in order to have the authority to say what's good or bad art, and that we should listen to him in order go get a satisfactory art community .
You on the other hand are breaking the rules of recognizing the artistic aspects in the piece of art by not knowing what a point of view character is, the rule of being experienced and well-trained which you clearly aren't, and having common sense which you lack since you're not very intelligent. You're also obviously not of a cultural elite which David Hume was.
See? You can't even read relevant literature!
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Michael may have the most screen time, but Vito is the point-of-view character and the one the intrigues are connected to. Let's break it down:
- What's the main function of Vito? He's the Don of the Corleone family, the biggest Mafia family in the city, and the one everyone comes to for advice or deal with a lethal business. However, the other Dons have grown jealous despite Vito wanting to live in peace.
- What's the inciting incident? Vito refuses to buy drugs from Sollozzo because it can ruin his contacts with the police and politicians. This refusal leads to Vito getting almost assassinated, and it's first then that Michael decides to be there for his family (he's literally supporting them).
- Michael goes out on his own to kill Sollozzo and McCluskey to avenge his father, and he then starts a war. This tension however is resolved when Sonny gets murdered and Vito calls for a truce and a compromise between him and the other families.
- The other families are convinced that Vito is growing weaker and won't live much longer, but that Michael is someone that will make the Corleone family stay on top. Vito predicts this and gives Michael this information. The climax is a direct result of Vito dying and the Corleone family thinking two steps forward when they kill the other Dons before they can even carry out any conspiracy against Michael. The overall resolution isn't Michael becoming Don per se, but the legacy of Vito being carried on further, as well as the Corleone family winning the "war". Michael being a family outsider is also more of a subplot and not something that has a connection to the other families wanting to weaken the Corleone family; it's more comparable to an army getting a new ally, but then the ally gets too much attention for what narrative function he serves.
Overall, Vito is always present even when he's absent, and his function moves the plot forward
You could potentially remove Michael from the story and still have a cohesive narrative, but remove Vito and you really don't have a plot. Michael really is a supporting character; his function is to help Vito come to peace with the other Dons (later win over them) so that the family remains powerful
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