Comments by "Morgan King" (@MorganKing95) on "Top 10 Great Movies That Are Kind Of Boring" video.

  1. People who take all cinematic techniques and movie aspects for granted
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  2. I definitely like that word better
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  3. You just didn't understand the conflict
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  4. Only for those who only care about explosions, CGI, and mindless action instead of actual story and character development
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  5. Fnord Prefect That's your opinion. AFI, Time Magazine, and National Film Registry all recognize "Casablanca" as one of the greatest movies of all time
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  6. Fnord Prefect​ They have a lot more credibility than you have. You really think anyone will take you seriously with statements like "Absolutely mindblowingly dreadful"? My immediate reaction is "Bad for you, but nobody cares" And I mentioned "Casablanca", not "Dancer in the Dark"
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  7. Fnord Prefect I have nothing against disagreements as long as people use proper arguments and don't use curse words against me. Personal attack is a fallacy
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  8. Fnord Prefect And your statements are invalid without arguments
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  9. And the year has just begun
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  10. Yes, there are actually some audiences today who worship the classics
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  11. KnifingGame​​ Well, it requires some knowledge about American politics and catching the conflict early in the movie, which should not be that hard. As soon as I did that, I loved the movie The music is also wonderful, as well as the art direction, and Daniel Day-Lewis always caught my attention. The voting was also surprisingly suspenseful
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  12. Amen to that
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  13. It depends on the audience. I for example highly enjoy post-modern movies (like "Birdman", "Pulp Fiction, and "Gravity"), but the general audience react like those kinds of movies don't exist, and there are very few who knows what aesthetics means. And some movies need time to establish the characters and conflicts. I also like deep movies because there is so much to say about them afterwards, and some of them have open interpretations
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  14. KnifingGame​​ Most complaints I've heard is because they didn't understand the story or conflict because it was too complicated, so naturally my immediate assumption would be that. Also, I'm evaluating the film based on its criterias, so even though I don't think it has the most exciting topic, it still handles it very well. The same goes for its other aspects Besides, the movie is mostly dialoue-driven, so if you don't understand the dialogue, then you don't understand the film
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  15. That sounds like a better title to me. If someone uses the word "boring", I automatically don't take that person seriously
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  16. MrPrince105​ "Boring" is imprecice and informal. Pacing is something that at least can be discussed and criticized since it is often a criteria when making a movie. Another thing you can discuss is structure or that the movie doesn't seem to go anywhere. Boring however means that it's simply not interesting or engaging for you based on personal preferences, and that's not the movie's fault. If you wrote a review or even a school paper where you said "An issue with the movie however is that it's boring", no editor or teacher would take you seriously. In my opinion, "boring" also sounds like something a child would say. And as you may have guessed, I rarely watch movies for fun, I'm trying to be analytic and think like a critic when watching them
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  17. You've got to be kidding
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  18. The old movies at least managed to bring out great dialogue and acting performances without relying on the fancy CGI and explosions and lighting. Movies like "Casablanca", "A Streetcar Named Desire", "Rebel Without A Cause", and "On the Waterfront" are still better and more relatable and inspirational than many movies I've seen today
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  19. Fnord Prefect THAT is the best argument you can think of? Just because you find it dull doesn't mean it's not a beloved classic among the general public
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  20. Fnord Prefect I see, you're one of those who don't know the difference between liking/disliking a movie and giving aesthetic judgements
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  21. People can think it's a masterpiece if they're analytic and make aesthetic judgements, but not when they're watching it for fun. For example, I'm not very interested in the subject they're talking about in "JFK", but I still cannot deny that the editing, concept, structure, music, and dialogue are amazing
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  22. Depends on the audience
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  23. then you just don't understand it
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  24. john lenon Then you have a REALLY weird taste for movies, and based on the fact that you use phrases like "boring as shit", you seem very juvenile
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  25. john lenon By personal reasons, I mean based on what you're interested in or are fan of
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  26. I agree
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  27. You already lost your credibility with the title; I cannot stand the word "Boring" since it's such an informal and imprecice word, and completely subjective, even for movie criticism. "Slow-paced" is a lot better word. And of course I've watched most of these movies several times without a single yawn, and I don't understand why people would think they are boring
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  28. The Great Gatsby has never been considered to be a masterpiece; it received mixed reviews
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  29. I learned that a long time ago (Not to brag or anything, it's just that it's not very surprising)
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  30. If you want action, then watch Transformers
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  31. Bonnie and Clyde is one of the most straightforward and fast-paced crime films I've ever seen, and the ending was really intense for its time. The art direction of the movie is also wonderful
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  32. I don't take it personally, but the standard is that almost all of these movies are masterpieces that most people should not consider boring, unless they are very juvenile or think that cinema began in the 21st century
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  33. +Cici 538 I had no problems watching "Lawrence of Arabia"
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  34. One of the worst movies of all time? Get real!
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  35. LOL
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  36. +Dork Jam There is a big difference between favorite movies and greatest movies, and there’s also a big difference between liking/disliking a movie based on personal preferences and giving aesthetic judgements.
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  37. Dork Jam Like I've mentioned to you earlier: huge difference between liking/disliking a movie because of personal preferences and giving aesthetic judgements. Or to make it simple: difference between "best" and "favorite"
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  38. Dork Jam Once again, this is what I said: 1. I'm aware that movie criticism is subjective; that was literally the first sentence I wrote to the idiot Canadian Muffin after I complained about him. I've never said that aesthetic judgement is objective. But what I'm trying to say is that are also critieria that are not directly written or made by anyone, but simply exist in people's subconscious because those critieria seem to be what the general public and the "normative standard" consider ideal and how it should be done (or not). It's of course subjective how you're able to sense them and the arts formal qualities however. Instead of objective, I'd say that movie criticism is subjective/normative 2. There are two ways of watching a movie or any other pieces of art. One way is to just watch "for fun" and praise it for any kind of reason, whether it would be because you have a bias for the genre, lead actor, conflict, or the theme, or because of nostalgia. Or on the flip side, criticize it because you find it personally uninteresting or boring. That's when you create lists for "favorite (or least favorite) movies", and nobody should criticize them since they're as subjective as you can come and don't have the intention of changing someone's view. The second way is watching movies with a critical mind and thinking things like "What elements have been satisfactory for the general public in this specific type of movie? And which kinds of direction methods, cinematography, musical score, narrative etc. have also been satisfactory for the general public? And how well have the director and other people involved handled them", and also not being biased. To wrap this up, here are some statements that sum it up and that I find acceptable: - "I personally don't like this movie that much and it isn't my favorite, but I'm still acknowledging its status as an amazing movie, critically thinking" - "I've never been a personal fan of Stanley Kubrick, but I still acknowledge that he was an amazing director and made landmark films that will be talked about for years to come" - "Personally, 'The Godfather' is not my cup of tea, but that it can be seen as one of the greatest movies ever made is undeniable"
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  39. Dork Jam I knew you wouldn't understand, but again, I spent several months reading about this, and I've been into movie criticism even longer than that. You're obviously not a critic
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  40. Dork Jam​ Have you actually seen the flaws in your arguments? I've yet to see one that is anything closely related to aesthetic judgement and David Hume's standard of taste
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  41. That sounds like very superficial criterias for a good movie. Would you then enjoy a movie that takes place in an empty area where actors just exchange their lines?
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  42. Constantin Hammer To me, a movie is great based on how well it's made, so there can be a movie that isn't my cup of tea, but that I still give a positive aesthetic judgement I have only seen "Boyhood" once and haven't grown attached to it yet, but I know there is something hidden that most people just don't get, just like "Birdman" and "Gravity" (Movies I highly enjoyed btw)
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  43. ***** Not all movies are great because of dialogue and characters. Some movies even try to steer away from it to make the other movie aspects more prominent, so that it's the aesthetics that make them great instead. "Gravity" and "Birdman" are those kinds of movies
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  44. ***** Ever heard about avant-garde or post-modernism?
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  45. *****​ People just bash on "Gravity" and "Birdman", as well as experimental directors in both theatre and movie, just because they think story and message and character development are the only thing that matter and therefore neglect elements like aesthetics, free associations, and the art of the stage/movie elements. They always focus on content and not form, and they start interpreting everything. This is even explored in Susan Sontag's famous essay "Against Interpretation" "Birdman" may have been very great because I could relate to both Michael Keaton and Edward Norton’s characters because I have to some degree been though a lot of the same things as them, but the aesthetics were wonderful too. With "Gravity" however, I thought the aesthetics was the main reason I enjoyed it so much
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  46. *****​​ I thought "Gravity" achieved that; I was sitting on the edge of the seat during the entire movie, and it felt like a roller coaster ride. The sound editing was also amazing, as well as the cinematography and art direction. You don't need more than that As long as a movie leaves me ecstatic, I'm satisfied (and that doesn't always happen)
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  47. That's the worst and most subjective assessment I've ever seen and with no arguments whatsoever. Invalid!
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  48. Looks like we have an conservative old man here
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  49. Good movie, but not really a masterpiece
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  50. Only by those who think that a movie consists solely of story and acting. By their logic, an ideal movie would be people standing in an empty area and exchanging lines
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  51. No, WatchMojo just screwed up this list. Only Michael Bay fans or people with little to no patience will find these movies boring
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  52. It's only boring for people who: A: Only care about action and CGI B: Don't understand the conflicts
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  53. john lenon But there is also a difference between liking/disliking a movie for personal reasons and giving an assessment, and I'm mostly going for the latter when I'm watching films
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  54. The viewers
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  55. Like what? Virtually every scene affects the next one
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  56. iluvsoulmusic​​​ I know there are many masterpieces today, a lot of them better than the classics, but many movies today also rely too much on action and CGI and special effects (I'm not talking about post-modern movies). My comment was also more directed towards the argument of old movies being bad just because the cinematic techniques weren't as good as today (which should not really matter if the dialogue and acting are great) I realize that my comment is easy to interpret as being highly conservative, but I'm not trying to be
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  57. Boring is such an informal and imprecice word, and so subjective, even for movie criticism. Sounds like something a child would have said, and it's mostly because they don't understand the story (or aesthetics in some cases)
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  58. I see what you did there
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  59. There are norms and principles for what makes something a masterpiece, so naturally people will think that someone who doesn't see the beauty in a masterpiece has bad taste
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