Comments by "carcdg" (@callanc3925) on "Joe Rogan - Melanie Griffith Had a Pet Lion" video.

@bipedalbob probably true because dogs dont attack unless youre a terrible owner, but its more the fact that you taking an animal that roams over acres and acres of wild land and confining it to a large house/property is immoral af. Dogs on the other hand a domesticated animals
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@bipedalbob yeah because they had a terrible owner. What point are you trying to make
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 @bipedalbob I never said you have to be a terrible owner to be attacked by a dog... I said that a dog attacks if it has a terrible owner
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@bipedalbob yeah i said it in that way because you said "if you get mauled by your pit bull", if you wanted to talk about random dog attacks you shouldve started like that
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@bipedalbob I mean i was replying to you... What do you want me to do, reply something less related to what you said? I never said anything was your fault
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NoNoNoNii Its still its natural instinct to roam over a large range though, I wouldnt say its the worst thing ever tbh "immoral af" was a bit of a hyperbole but I still dont think its right
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@firghteningtruth7173 No, dogs arent essentially the same thing. Dogs evolved from wolves, and arent wolves anymore, lions are still lions. Dogs literally evolved to live in the conditions of the people they follow around
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@firghteningtruth7173 "and so have cats" we arent talking about cats, were talking about lions. Domesticated cats didnt even descend from lions. They become feral because there is literally no other way for them to survive. WHat do you think they dont have survival instincts or something? Dogs literally came from wolves wanting to be around us. Its not slavery, it was a mutual agreement. The thing about dogs is you have to take them for walks, and runs and play in fields, otherwise youre a bad owner. YOu cant do that with a lion unless you personally own many acres of fenced off land.
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@firghteningtruth7173 Beating animals has nothing to do with this so i dont know why youre bringing that up. Youre foolish if you think a domesticated cat and a lion are even remotely closely related to the point of 2 generations. Go study some evolution. A dog goes for a walk every day. I find it hard to believe anyone owning a lion takes the time to transport it to a ranch/safari park everyday. If they live on a ranch/safari park then thats fine because its literally living in a space similar to that it naturally lives in. Its all intentioned with the dogs best interest (hopefully) too. There are child abusers, there are dog abusers. Again, dogs arent enslaved, if you knew anything about evolution youd know that the reason they even exist is because the wolves liked the help humans gave them. Humans dont control every aspect of a dogs life, if you do then youre a slave to the dog because you cant stop it from walking around your apartment without abusing it. Ever heard the phrase "a dog is mans best friend". It didnt come from nowhere mate
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@firghteningtruth7173 Also you dont decide whether I lost, you havent said a single factual thing that refutes half of my points, you just say the opposite
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@firghteningtruth7173 Also morality is a perfectly valid leg to stand on, tell me whether you agree with human slavery and tell my why you do or do not
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@firghteningtruth7173 Willful service is by definition not slavery. Slavery is the act of forcing people to do things for you despite them not wanting to. If he chooses to work on the farm in exchange for food and a sense of purpose then hes not a slave, thats a servant. The process of owning something living isnt inherently immoral. Is it immoral to own a baby you just birthed? I can make a plea against very immoral things without being perfectly moral. The reason I didnt like the holocaust is because of how immoral it was. Are you saying its wrong for me to disagree with the holocaust just because I also think owning dogs is fine? Because youre ideas can be infinitely expanded to that extreme and you clearly havent thought them through very thoroughly. Also why do you keep saying I lose. Im having a discussion with someone, you dont lose a discussion
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@firghteningtruth7173 If you had any knowledge of context you would have realised he was talking about dogs that you own. Me assuming he would continue context isnt losing shit, and again its a discussion, you dont lose
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@firghteningtruth7173 Yes but why is human slavery terrible? Whats terrible about it? Its pretty awesome for the person owning the slaves. Also adoption is essentially buying a kid. You could also argue remarrying is an indirect way of buying a kid as well
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@firghteningtruth7173 "if you get mauled by your pit bull you deserve it" - bipedal bobs first comment that i replied to. Never claimed to know everything. Why are you changing the subject to where Im at in life, that has nothing to do with anything weve been talking about. You also said "let me teach you" and then proceeded to tell me to look it up myself, so are you a goldfish or something?
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@firghteningtruth7173 Still waiting for you to tell me why you disagree with human slavery, and if you say "its terrible," or ignore the question entirely, again im just going to assume you mean its immoral in which case why are you disagreeing with it just because its immoral? You said thats a weak leg to stand on
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@firghteningtruth7173 Please show me where I said owning pets is different, because that is not a quote of anything ive ever said, not to mention if that was a quote you didnt provide a shred of context surrounding it
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@firghteningtruth7173 Im not trying to fumble my way out of shit, youve gone off on so many tangents completely unrelated to the original topic, if anything youre fumbling out. Whats wrong with someone else having a lack of freedom? They arent me so why should i give a shit about their freedom. If only you couldve studied the way dogs were domesticated instead of some shit about reasoning that you arent even capable of explaining despite saying youre going to teach me about it. Also that car analogy is terrible. You dont have to be a mechanic to know shit about cars, in fact a lot of people already know whats wrong with their car, they just go to the mechanic because they dont have the tools required to fix it
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@firghteningtruth7173 Just quote the entire message because i cant find the speicifc one youre talking about. The very fact you are incapable of having a conversation about something without having to call someone else the loser of the conversation (still not an actual thing btw) is pretty clear proof that youre the one with the ego. Not to mention how can i have lost when you keep changing the subject
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@firghteningtruth7173 Why would I assume you own a 20 thousand acre ranch, most people dont, the people owning the lion in this video dont
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@firghteningtruth7173 also why would you ask me why i think its immoral, you said yourself that it being immoral doesnt matter, looks like youre being the hypocrite now buddy
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@firghteningtruth7173 quote anything ive flip flopped on. You cant just say "youve flip flopped on everything" without giving examples mate, i thought you were meant to be educated enough to know that. Speaking of flip flopping, remember that time you said my argument is wrong because its based on morals? Yet im still waiting for you to come up with an argument against human slavery that isnt entirely based on morals, not to mention you also just said that morals have importance. Youre the shit one at arguing mate, you dodge half the points i make and then just call me names, because apparently thats what intellectuals do. Ill tell my professors theyve got it all wrong next time i see them. You cant even grasp basic ideas of free will, but yeah im the dumb one
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@firghteningtruth7173 I actually do know that lions living circumstances, because its shown. It lives in an above average sized property. Tbh cant really be fucked talking to you either because you spend most of your time talking about completely unrelated shit not even replying to the stuff i say calling me dumb when im on a full scholarship at university. But hey Im sure youre doing even better man have a great life
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@patronofsaints2062 The reason they were bred is because a group of them underwent natural selection to hang around humans. Also even selective breeding is still evolution, its just not natural selection
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