Comments by "1IbramGaunt" (@1IbramGaunt) on "HMS Queen Elizabeth Departs For CARRIER STRIKE GROUP 21 🚢" video.
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@stiffchocolate7546 really, well thankyou for your service, IF that's true that is (frankly anyone can claim to be a veteran on the internet), but either way I stand by what I was saying before- fighting to defend this country isn't just some act of blind patriotism or some kind of gung-ho warmongering, it's fighting to defend those you care about, holding the line to defend all you hold dear sheltering behind it, to have the back of the men and women beside you doing the same, and of course ultimately to do that fighting and perhaps being wounded or dying yourself so others back home don't have to. Even disregarding all that though, all high-minded concepts aside, if you ARE in the British military it's also your duty and your JOB to do it at the end of the day though lol, there's no conscription, no draft, National Service in Britain ended in the 60's- these days the only way you ever will end up fighting for your country in the first place is if you signed up to do so, no-one tricked you or forced you (and let's face it the pay's nothing to write home about and the recruitment ads suck, so something else must have brought you there)
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@alexyoung7125 well without nuclear weapons we lose not only our seat at the top-table as a first-line military power, but Nato also loses a big part of the overall nuclear deterrent to the Russians in that particular area of the world! and seeing as there's only the four "boomer" subs, since we'll never have more THAN four even when the future Dreadnought-class replaces the Vanguard's, and since we've plenty more conventional attack subs too and even the Vanguard's can fire conventional weapons instead if need be, I don't see why the RN just having those four particular boats is a problem! And yeah sure so we rely on the Americans for some elements of that nuclear capability, that's true of half the stuff we HAVE at this point and is true of plenty of other countries too these days, all nationalism or patriotism aside I don't see why that's a real issue either, not when they're our closest allies, and it's highly unlikely that's ever gonna change (and even if it DID I'm sure we could build, maintain & supply our own nukes if we had to, we HAVE in the past after all, it's just cheaper, simpler, quicker and more convenient to let the Yanks handle it for the moment though)
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@ds1868 and two British destroyers, two British frigates, two British supply-ships, a British nuclear attack submarine and a British aircraft carrier. Along with 8 of the jets and all of the helicopters. Britain's KINDA giving the most important national contribution of the three there don't you think lol? It is a British Strike Group because the flagship is British, the majority of the ships and majority of the personell are British, and all but two of the commanding officers, including the commodore in charge of the whole strike-group, are British. The American and Dutch contributions may be very helpful and respectfully appreciated during this transitional period, but if need be we COULD have made this strike-group entirely British, just added an extra Type 45 and/or Type 23 instead and made do with less jets; and if it becomes necessary to in the future, we may well do so next time. The fact that the Americans and Dutch are helping us while we're still finding our feet with carrier operations again after over a decade without any IS appreciated and extremely useful, right now we DO need the help don't get me wrong, but that's all it is and it sure as hell doesn't mean they're calling the shots
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