Comments by "Gareth Hart" (@tgheretford) on "The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters" channel.

  1. When I last checked FDS, "high value" did not mean value in yourself, it literary meant be rich, high status and in servitude.
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  2. Pubs today, then supermarkets, followed by the right to vote, healthcare and eventually social credit and carbon credits.
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  3. Why should Clarkson, I or anyone else be compelled to like someone? We are seeing the introduction of an effective lèse-majesté law, not just for the monarchy but also politicians, celebrities, the rich, powerful and famous who happen to have the "correct" politics, unlike Clarkson. Also, Meghan is not the world wide representative of all women either.
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  4. I completely disagree with Phetasy's suggestion that the current culture of dating and the liberation we have had has benefited men. No. Hardest of hard disagrees. It has benefited a small percentage of men - the highest attractive, socially valuable men. For an increasing number of men, they now pay for the consequences. Men in the past who would have had a partner and a family. Phetasy has come through this lightly unlike many of the men who had nothing to do with promiscuity and hook-ups.
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  5. Tonight, a woman was arrested for posting "inaccurate information" in the UK. The UK authorities and mainstream media decide what is accurate. This should send chills down anyone's spine.
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  6. Connor saying that digital ID is good to kill off pornography (as happened in numerous US states) will come to bite him and Lotus Eaters on their backside when the Online Safety Act states that ID verification is required for anything that isn't "suitable for children" and that isn't just pornographic websites.
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  7. It is October 2121 - a tradition set in 2020 where the Coronavirus Act 2020 is given yet another six month extension without a vote. The tradition is that the act is always given an extension without a vote and we laugh at the public. Any member of the public who criticises the MPs is docked 250 social credit points.
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  8. Here's the thing. Break up that question of whether a woman would date an unemployed man if: a) He was attractive, and b) He was unattractive? I bet the answer would not be the same. My suggestion would be that the former would be "I can change him and make him commit" and the other will be labelled a loser, a no-hoper and a virgin for life.
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  9. You will never, ever see a body positivity movement for men. If anything there is a new political push for dealing with unwanted communication, unwanted behaviour, creepiness and offence. Which is why you see the likes of Truss, Sunak, Khan et al speaking of new laws to deal with the aforementioned things. Problem is, your looks and desirability are linked to how much respect and value you get as a man. Which is why low value men are deemed misogynistic and creepy for being low value men.
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  10. We're now seeing single women, including non-feminist ones, not wanting relationships and are being encouraged to go through life alone without a man. This is not going to end well if nothing is done to counteract this.
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  11. Police: "Believe all women" Also Police: "NO! NOT THAT WOMAN!"
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  12. Hard disagree on the concept that society should deal with men who make women feel uncomfortable or creeped out in society. Going down that road will require unattractiveness to be criminalised. A woman taking a personal dislike to a man through his appearance, persona or even existence while said man is doing their own personal and legal business should not be criminalised.
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  13. Just a warning to Maajid's detractors, he has never lost a defamation suit against anyone. I hope he sues all of them, even if he has to crowdfund the suits.
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  14. He is now getting the Alex Jones treatment. I did warn Jones would not be the last.
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  15. Ofcom will become the arbiter of what is and isn't allowed to be seen, heard and read by citizens of the UK once the Online Safety Bill becomes law.
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  16. What pubs, Sargon? They're all closing down if you haven't noticed because people are becoming more insular and meeting in closed social groups. The Wetherspoons near me is rumoured to be closing down in the near future and the nearest pub is now a restaurant because it turned out that was a more lucrative path to profitability. The other nearby pub is now a convenience store and housing. Lockdowns decimated the hospitality sector.
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  17. Bath's implementation of the 15 minute city will see each sector called a "cell". They're not even being subtle any more.
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  18. I'm starting to see a shift from terms such as harmful, offensive and hateful to disruptive, hostile and causing inconvenience. All encompass the former as well as abuse and harassment but now also expands to behaviour, ideas, opinions, thoughts and speech beyond those boundaries including dissent and opposition and beyond the protected characteristics. Hate speech as Ireland describes it today will become disruptive speech quickly. Which is how authoritarian countries work.
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  19. Do what Lorenz is doing to Libs Of TikTok in the UK as an independent content creator and you'll be getting five years in prison.
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  20. All I ever hear is easy platitudes and throwaway lines such as "just lift bro", "just touch grass bro" and "just approach bro" while any critique of those lines gets met with "that's negative bro". How does lifting get you above six foot? How does touching grass deal with a speech impediment? How can approaching women cure a neurotypical disorder that you inherited genetically from your parents?
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  21. Men are still invisible if they are in their thirties and older and don't have average or above physical looks, a good paid job, a home they own or pay a mortgage on, good health, six foot or above and this is the real kicker, consistent dating, relationship and pre-selection experience as well as high social status. Because when you hit your middle age, the divorced men outnumber you in the dating pool, everyone around your age in your peer groups are in long term relationships or married and its the point where chasing after twenty year olds on dating apps looks "creepy". It's as if advice to tell men to not date until their thirties is bad advice and the claims that all men reach their peak SMV in their late 30s doesn't apply universally.
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  22. He reminds me of the people who went on Embarrassing Bodies to tell the consultant on the programme that they are terrified to bare all to their GP but are more than happy to let a couple of million see their naked body on Channel 4.
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  23. It is amazing to see how many "relationship experts" and "dating coaches" are both not in relationships, have been single for a long while and can not commit.
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  24. We are in the time of guilt by association. It won't end here.
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  25. For the top ten percent of men, the dating market is like a fine and plentiful all-you-can-eat banquet; For women, its like being spoilt for choice in a supermarket; For the average to above average man, its like finding an oasis in the desert; For the below average man, its like finding life in space.
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  26. Where I live, most houses have gone beyond the affordability of low and even medium paid workers. And landlords are leaving the rental market in favour of putting their properties on AirBnB where there landlords have more control over their property. Nearly £100k more for the average house in the last fifteen years and rents are now up toward £1k a month when they used to be around £400-500 a month a few years ago. Getting a council house is like winning the lottery. And you wonder why young adults still live with their parents.
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  27. "What are you in for?" "A woman found my presence offensive because I was unattractive to her"
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  28. Society puts a value on men based on their ability to attract a partner. It's why slurs and insults against men question their status and ability to attract a woman.
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  29. This whole situation whiffs of an opportunity to enact under the call of protecting the safety of MPs several things they've always wanted but didn't have a chance to implement until now - Lèse-majesté, blasphemy, anti-protest, anti-discreditation and disrespect laws.
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  30. That's the point. They want to make the service so annoying and unusable to nudge everyone toward subscribing to Premium by paywalling ad-blocking.
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  31.  @eddielombardo  There was a recent court case where a woman forced herself on a man who clearly told her in no uncertain terms that he did not consent. The case ended up with the precedence of her having no legal case to answer for and she walked free. Consent now only works one way.
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  32. They're not stopping with Grandma from what I've seen.
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  33.  @mattyice852  He seemed cute and attractive at first... until I changed my mind. See the problem?
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  34. I get the distinct impression that Connor is so anti-single that he has disconnected the concept of divorce risk and cost from the equation. Because that won't sell marriages if half the individuals who take him up on it get hosed in the family courts.
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  35. Men at fault and shamed by being told to "do better".
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  36. I took a YouGov chat relating to the use of face coverings in public places. When others did the survey, it worked fine for them. When I did it, considering my opposing stance, it crashed. And kept crashing every time I tried it, regardless of device, incognito mode and so on. I suspect these surveys are set-up to give a pre-determined answer and a percentage that appears believable and not suspicious.
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  37. They'll require steaks and other foods to be cut up before sale so the public no longer need to have possession of any knives. Calling it now.
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  38. Virtue signalling is cripplingly expensive.
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  39. It's not just the price of the product. Why should I have to buy a product that only gives me a ultimately time limited licence disguised as a "purchase"? As Louis Rossmann argues in many a video.
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  40. Now we have people exploiting this and telling men to go to the other extreme. That they have to be testersterone pumped ultra-jacked giga-Chads with top notch game in order to even be seen by women which they can get to if they buy an influencers self-improvement programme (that is designed to fail in the same manner that dating apps are designed to prevent as many people as possible finding a long term relationship). A lot of advice to men online and in real life is, while in good faith, actually counterproductive, will make them less attractive and more likely to fail in life.
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  41.  @Yea_I_Got_Nothing  The only difference between them is the colour of the ribbon and the rosette.
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  42. Uncomfortable truths that stay on their consciences that they can't dismiss. That's what they detest the most. That's why they're trying to unperson Lee Anderson MP.
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  43.  @doingmybest6438  In the same way they condemn the erasure of women's identity from sport but suddenly quietly support the solution being presented by the sporting governing authorities which is to do the exact same thing to men.
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  44. Just wait until the Protection From Sex Based Harassment in Public Bill, the Online Safety Bill and the Worker Protection Bill become law. It will get much worse. And on top of that for the Scottish, the proposed anti-misogyny bill from the SNP is due soon as a key election promise from the First Minister.
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  45. Two things authoritarians know that they need to provide to keep the population from rebelling - first, keep them distracted and busy and second, keep them fed. We're about to end up in trouble regarding the latter.
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  46. It's not merely an old trope, it's known as pre-selection and it becomes vital for older males who find themselves on the dating market.
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  47. Make men feel as if they have nothing to lose. This will not end well.
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  48. Yes. In Scotland, it could potentially be against the law. A law that will also be replicated across the rest of the UK in time. Also, making her feel uncomfortable or offended by your presence (ie. being unattractive).
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  49. Not having a partner can carry a stigma for men as well.
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  50. Misandry is the acceptable discrimination in society.
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  51. If people are wearing masks now, they will keep wearing them forever. Even in places where a mandate was not previously implemented, such as outdoors.
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  52. Particularly Hulk Hogan and his glorious takedown of the cesspit known as Gawker.
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  53. They'll react by implementing taxes on bachelors and childless men.
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  54. The legacy media regulator is moving online because they want to regulate the online space. Note how I said online and not "Internet". Because if activists get their way, the UK will adopt a national Intranet with restricted third party Internet access, fully regulated by Ofcom in the same manner as the broadcast spectrum "for the safety of children".
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  55. I get the distinct worry that the long term solution that will be proposed will be a national Intranet.
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  56. "Just buy an electric car"... Has anyone looked at the price of electric and how it's going up massively - the thing that an electric car needs to function? We can't afford to do that now either. And that's before taking into account the precious metals, chemicals and labour costs which are also increasing and factor into the cost of an electric car.
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  57. My town might be the only town in Britain where Tesco closed down and never came back.
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  58. And worryingly from what I can see, it's only the beginning. What Starmer plans to do will badly hit widows, those fleeing domestic abuse and violence, single people and in particular the physically disabled. Groups who are vulnerable and can't fight back. Sickening.
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  59. Women can not beat biology. Men can not beat social status. Both sexes face issues with fertility for women and relationships for men respectively if they don't get their priorities in order in their young adult years. Don't be the childless woman who is panicking for their first baby in their late 30's or the single man getting passed over for more experienced, stable divorced men in their late 30's (unless you choose that route, each to their own).
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  60. Anyone who believes the solution to this societial problem is to shame men to "do better", as is being promoted in the conclusion of this video, is also divorced from reality.
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  61. There's a saying "don't listen to what they say, watch what they do". Feminists and even average women tell men what women find attractive yet doesn't correlate to the calibre of men they actually match and message on dating apps. The "manosphere" tells men attractiveness is a hyper-masculine trope that women don't find attractive according to scientific studies on attraction. A lot of advice online and even in real-life, while given in good faith, is actually counterproductive and harmful to a man's prospects of succeeding in the dating market. Extremes, whether the simp or the giga-Chad, is not attractive to the majority of women.
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  62. 16th of April 2015 - Sargon releases a video titled "The Victory of #GamerGate".
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  63. Read the terms and conditions of your bank, building society or utility - you'll find a term in there which requires you to not engage in abusive, offensive or critical speech or behaviour in all settings. They don't have to give you a rationale if they close your account, can put you on a database which bars you from all banks, building societies and utilities who use said database for six years and if you sue, they'll ask for a session in private and tell the judge without you that you've committed fraud. It's terrifying what power they have to cancel you knowing that you need a bank account for a number of essential things in life including employment or welfare.
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  64. I bet Carl would change his mind if a whistleblower came out to expose something within a public institution or a foreign, belligerent Government and needed to keep anonymous to prevent themselves having a target placed on their head.
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  65.  @iller3  The Labour Party in opposition submitted an amendment to ban VPN's for the then Online Safety Bill which failed. They are now in power with a huge majority. It's only a matter of when, not if, the selling and using of VPN's are made illegal.
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  66. Maybe she is focusing on the top 5-20% (depending on who you ask) of men she is chasing who really are spoilt for choice. The rest of us don't recognise what she claims.
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  67. Public awareness of journalistic malpractice including the exposure of collusion between journalists, set the basis for future boycotts of advertisers and products done today, attention of the Society of Professional Journalists, reforms of Federal Trade Commission policy on disclosure that had effects beyond gaming journalism. If that's what "failure" looks like, I'd dread to think what success looks like! As for Sarkeesian, she had nothing to do with this in the outset. She inserted herself in to remain relevant and bring attention to herself.
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  68. AI, automation and robotics is coming for the jobs. The problem then becomes, what do we do with the millions of unemployable people where there is no capacity for everyone to become their own boss and employers are not compelled to employ humans for labour?
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  69. A narrative is being brewed. While there is a news blackout on details of the perpetrator, they do seem keen on stating that he was born in Cardiff.
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  70. I tend to find that the women who are not ideological and have not swallowed the kool aid are already in long term established relationships. The reality of what is the case on dating apps shows why your average looking single man and below are simply just walking away and losing hope.
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  71. If you think exemptions for comment sections and reviews will remain, I have a bridge to sell to you. In terms of the spider vs scorpion analogy, this would be a case where both sides bury the hatchet, the scorpion grabs you and the spider poisons you.
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  72. "You must be this attractive as a man to avoid prison".
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  73. Marriage is the only legal contract which one side can break and be financially rewarded for doing so.
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  74. They'll target bachelors. Always been the case through history.
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  75. Richard Littlejohn summed it up best in his column - "political onanism"
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  76. It's not just political division. Socially, single (including non-feminist) women are still on the dating apps but don't want relationships. Cue a significant rationale for both the male loneliness epidemic and declining birth rates.
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  77. Tonight, someone was arrested for "inaccurate information" in the UK.
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  78. Let's show Putin how free and liberal we are by enacting a law that allows the Police to do the very thing he is doing to Russian dissidents and opponents. Huh.
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  79. I can imagine the high security prison cells will be filled with the most heinous criminals in for whole life sentences without parole alongside... men who can't get a girlfriend?!?!?!?
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  80. You know things are bad when the person who gets called the "milquetoast fence-sitter", Tim Pool, is calling for the UK to be made a pariah state over this.
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  81. Requiring people to think of how others think about them by implementing a dress code enforced by society is how authoritarians can nudge people toward peer pressure in upholding things such as face mask mandates or religious women's dress codes, by the way. Not a libertarian stance.
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  82. Also, why have "incels" been arrested en-masse after meeting this glowing man?
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  83. And producers and retailers believe that consumers pay for that food with the money that comes from the infinite magic money tree.
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  84. ​ @mushyroom9569  Your comment appears to be shadowbanned as I can see it in my notifications but not on the comments thread or in incognito mode.
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  85. This won't end with PayPal or the individuals and organisations targeted. I expect the banks to follow suit. Worse still, CIFAS markers could be added to every individual targeted by PayPal and then not only would banks and financial firms close their accounts but they would also be barred from opening a new account for six years.
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  86. That's the point. To shame and make running a website so bureaucratic and costly that they all either block that state or close down and the legislators can gloat how the websites chose to leave or close down, they didn't ban it. It's a ban by proxy. And they won't stop with pornography, anything outside a private bedroom between consenting adults without payment is under threat.
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  87. We have a number of dessert stores which I have never seen open once.
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  88. Zelenskyy gambled and lost. He hoped the world would repel Russia back behind the border. Now every option will result in the end of Ukraine. It's a case of how long will it take?
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  89.  @PaIaeoCIive1684  Not if anyone (doesn't have to be the target of who you talk about either) considers it "grossly offensive". The same thing that bit Count Dankula and got £800 taken from his bank account.
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  90. Without a societal system in place (Professor Jordan B. Peterson called it "enforced monogamy" to much fury from the usual suspects), humans adopt a mating system where one man in a group or tribe gets all the attention whilst the rest get nothing. The 80/20 rule is the natural state of affairs. The consequences of this for civilisation is why we adopted monogamy, to ensure as much of a 1:1 ratio as possible and ensure stability in society. As marriage and relationships start to fall apart as a concept that people work toward as a life goal, we're starting to see the consequences of society reverting to the 80/20 rule, as seen in data gathered on Tinder and OkCupid.
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  91.  @SexyMonsterLover  And all that happens is that the messages from women to men just have a one word response, requiring men to still have to effectively make the first move.
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  92. They're going to tackle the incel problem by making not having a partner a criminal offence for heterosexual men by criminalising behaviour such as rejection and clumsiness. Coming in through the Protection from Sex-based Harassment in Public Bill as well as the Online Safety Bill.
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  93. There will not be the electrical infrastructure to charge every privately owned electric car and the materials on Earth to replace every battery and create a car for everyone. Their ultimate plan for cars is to have 15 minute areas with no private car ownership. And ultimately, everything as a service paid for by electronic payment (excluding crypto) as pretty much every subscription service does now.
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  94. Labour tried and failed with an amendment to the then Online Safety Bill. They are now in power with a huge majority.
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  95. The same thing applies to men, not in fertility terms, but in getting things together by the time they hit their thirties. Men also age but also are judged on pre-selection and experience. If you don't have that by that time, you're in big trouble and statistically, chances are that you won't be having children or a partner.
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  96. Celibacy can refer to both. At this point though, the definition of incel has been extrapolated to just simply being a single male.
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  97. The socially acceptable discrimination.
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  98.  @HunterStiles651  I never said that.
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  99. TL;DW - your worth as a man is exclusively tied to your ability to have women find you attractive, date you, say yes to marriage and have children in wedlock, not the other way round. So if we go by that logic, if someone gets a bachelors degree, runs a successful business, employs thousands of people, owns their own home and owns multiple cars, it means nothing because you didn't put a ring on someone's finger and have children.
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  100. If we are discussing Phetasy, her conclusion that men have benefited from sexual liberation is only a reality for a small percentage of high value men and not the reality for an increasing number of men who have no family, no children and no hope. Unlike Phetasy.
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  101. There is also affirmative action in education and employment. To the point now where young women are outearning their male peers until the women leave the workplace to have a child.
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  102. Except that can come with risks nowadays, whether you go viral for being a "creep" if you make a faux-pas or get reported to an authority figure for unwanted attention (ie. she has to reject you). This was not the case in the past where people handled themselves and didn't have smartphones.
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  103. Everyone to the right of Karl Marx is far right nowadays.
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  104. 15:00 - those (top tier) "guys" don't need to commit because they always have options - younger, attractive options. At the same time, most men are invisible to them. Alas, now you know why the dating game is rigged for most men.
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  105. Only certain men. Because not all men are treated equally.
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  106. My fear is if Boris does go, who replaces him? I suspect a EU-leaning, Covid hardline candidate will eventually become PM.
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  107. There are plenty of scientific papers showing the ineffectiveness of masks in terms of spread. Papers which claim effectiveness are biased and flawed in a number of areas (ignoring people's habits like incorrect donning/doffing, touching them, putting them down to their chin, tests done in perfect conditions, focusing on large molecules, etc). And we have eighteen months of data and statistics of N95 and surgical mask use in care settings - nosocomial spread was rampant as well as mask mandates - didn't stop spread. Masks are excellent in other aspects however, as noted by those who practice psychology and behavioural science.
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  108. Do not take The Huw Pill.
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  109. The way things are going, pornography and anything sexual outside a private bedroom between (a minimum of) two consenting adults (with staggered consent - ie. no large age gap) without payment will be illegal if lobbyists get their way. With recent events around women's and children's safety and exploitation, they're all on borrowed time. The problem then is, what happens to single men who haven't got a hope in the dating market?
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  110. Or catching the last train from Hiroshima or Nagasaki before the bomb dropped.
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  111. Underage individuals have had access to this sort of content since the invention of adult magazines, VHS tapes and satellite television. Not only would you need to ban it for everyone, you would need to ban any technology that can circumvent a ban such as VPN's, proxies, Tor, satellite broadcasting and so forth. You'd also have to deal with those individuals in society who have no success with finding a partner and for whom every other option is now closed.
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  112. The same Labour MPs who tabled an amendment to ban VPN's that failed? The same party who now has a massive majority and a desire to introduce a new online safety law because they complain the current one goes nowhere near far enough?
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  113. Anyone feeling lonely or wanting to get back in the dating game should re-watch that video at the beginning of this segment and strengthen their decision to remain a bachelor.
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  114.  @factbasedcat  "just church bro". As with the gym, people go to church for a purpose, not to get hit on by other single people.
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  115. I've noticed more people wearing masks outside (bear in mind nearly thirty degree heat and high UV from the sun) since the weekend compared to previous weeks. Despite the fact that the UK has never mandated masks outside (Nottingham City Council's request last week is as close as we have got to that). Staff who have had to wear them for eight hours plus a day are the ones who are far more likely to take them off. We need to counteract the fear that people have been flooded regarding masks with compassion, empathy and therapy, not insults.
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  116. Maybe for marriage but for dating, it's an unlimited buffet for the highest attractive men, looking for an oasis in the desert for your average person and looking for a planet with unicorns for unattractive men.
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  117. Starmer is now acting like Trudeau if you've heard what's been announced in the last couple of hours.
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  118. If that were an "involuntary celibate" behaving in exactly the same way, they would be in prison right now, no question.
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  119. Always have a first date at an establishment where there is a low financial outlay. That should weed out the timewasters who want a free meal at a man's expense. Unfortunately society tends to shame "deadbeat" men who won't pay top whack for a restaurant on a first date or pay for all the dates. Even worse now as young women now outearn young men in the workplace thanks to affirmative action meaning the traditional dynamics that set-up the principle of men paying for everything has flipped on their head.
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  120. ​@PGH Engineer With bars, you can go and meet someone there for a long term relationship and still frequent that bar as a couple. Can't do that with Tinder so Tinder's whole business strategy is to be successful enough for women and high social status men to meet someone but not enough to keep them away for good. Your average man goes to Tinder knowing that the game is crooked against them but still foolishly take part in the false belief that this time will be different.
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  121.  @whenpigsfly8178  Yes because shadowbanning is in effect by YouTube. It's also why it shows "9 replies" once I posted this reply but you are only seeing seven replies in this thread. Two replies have been hidden from public view.
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  122. Automation is inevitable. And not just because of wages. If you enjoy the concept of having a pension, sick pay, time off on annual leave, time to rest and sleep in a 24-hour period, maternity/paternity leave, workers rights or any other perk, a robot, machine or computer doesn't need any of those and can undercut you.
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  123. Nobody wants to deal with the underlying, root causes of why increasing numbers of men are ending up long term single and loveless. Sadly, for a fair number of the consequences that led them to their situation, its because of genetics and you can't fix them at the gym, night school or gentleman's establishment.
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  124. Recent data suggests only 9% of single people used online dating in the last year. Not a typo. Nine. And yet virtually all of the discourse around the dating market is based on the perception that online dating is the only game in town. Yet it only applies to a small minority. The dating advice online is likely made up of two groups - the promiscuous 10% for whom online dating has made it easier and removed the social stigma of promiscuity and the perpetually single 10% who for a variety of a reason can not or will not seek a relationship. The silent 80% who are meeting in closed social groups in real life and don't use dating apps must look perplexed at the online and media discourse.
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  125. Just a reminder that not too long ago, truckers who protested in Canada were labelled "terrorists" by the state. Still keen on the concept of the death penalty for terrorists?
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  126. Looking at recent rhetoric, I think the concept of a national Intranet is looking far more likely for the masses in the long term. As long as the masses have Netflix, live sport, commerce et al, the masses won't complain and we'll be told it's being done for "safety".
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  127. Rules for thee, not for me.
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  128. The studies done in the real world, randomly controlled trials and even the Government's own report to justify masks in schools this week show no statistical difference in infection rates between mask wearers and mask free individuals.
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  129. There's a reason why numerous men keep saying that the second they find a partner, they get attention from women they would never have got before. Pre-selection in action. Which is a real problem for long term single men in their thirties and older in the same way it is very difficult for someone who's been out of work for a long time to get back into the workforce.
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  130. We have the absurd situation where we rightly have free speech on campus yet if the Online Harms Bill becomes law, that same speech being uploaded online could potentially become a crime.
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  131. Men do not want to risk the prospect of a criminal record and a conviction that will destroy their life just because they're expected to engage in a hard-to-get strategy.
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  132. They're making the same argument with loaning, second hand sales and purchasing. What they would prefer is DRM ridden media put behind paywalls for access where you own nothing and you purchase a licence that they can pull at any time. See Ubisoft's The Crew.
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  133.  @Sepeth4982  Life is cope. Even men in marriages with children that have become dead bedroom relationships cope. And that's the side of relationships no-one speaks of. Only 13% of marriages are happy, just over half end in divorce and the rest stay together in dead bedrooms because of finance or the children.
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  134. Free speech to them is like garlic to vampires.
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  135. A reminder that Female Dating Strategy exists.
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  136. How much political influence and sympathy does feminism and the manosphere have? One has many representatives in Parliament, the other gets labelled a terrorist threat.
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  137. ​ Michael Quaid  It's not "game" but social status. You can be a millionaire and still end up on a TV dating show asking for sympathy about how you've been partnerless for years. Professor Jordan B. Peterson did a lecture where he demonstrated that social status is the one key factor that determines success for men. Not exclusively money but a number of other factors - height, fitness, independence, stability, confidence ("game"), social circle, life experience and so forth. The top 20% of men in terms of social status (that top 20% changes between women and over time, which is why 80% of men are not single) get the majority of women's attention, there are numerous studies, mostly focusing on Tinder and OkCupid that verify this.
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  138. We used to have these things called parents who would discipline their children and ensure they didn't engage in behaviour they shouldn't. Now they've been replaced by the Government.
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  139. I expect to see this sort of treatment against media outlets critical of Putin in Russia. I don't expect to see the same thing in Wales.
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  140. China had similar problems with a significant proportion of their society - people who didn't contribute to society (or "leeching"), behaved badly and did not contribute to their local community. Their answer was the social credit system. Could easily be expanded to punish those who fail to start a family (sans medical reasons) by a defined age. This is not an advocacy for this, far from it, but a potential pitfall.
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  141. Press F to anyone who casts this video to their TV as the thumbnail fills the place of the video.
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  142. Everyone focuses on women leaving it too late but the manosphere promotes men doing exactly the same thing. But they're all in for shock when reality hits. So many comments and vlogs of men in their forties childless and alone.
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  143. The opposite of those tenants tend to be followed by people doing 10 years to life in prison. The only difference being is that being an incel - ie. a man who fails to attract a partner - is not a crime. Yet.
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  144. In the UK, it's usually the case that the selling, possession and consumption of an illegal item is criminalised. And this ban affects everyone, regardless of age. There's already pressure since the disposable vape ban was announced to extend it to non-disposable vapes and other vices.
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  145. Not any more. The state will fund them and they can pay for people to do the chores that a male would need or simply do them themselves. Single households are increasing, single women choose to live alone and single men have no choice but to live alone. I can speak anecdotally from real life experience of a good number of women in their 30's and 40's who are not dating, don't want a man and can live without a man in the house.
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  146. Shortwave radio is going to become the last bastion of broadcasting free speech into the UK from legal broadcasters overseas.
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  147. The problem is, opponents of the Government, including peaceful protesters, have been redefined as "disruptive", as per the newly implemented Public Order Act just before the Coronation (coincidental timing I'm sure). The plan now is to enact zero tolerance on disruption - which can be both actions as well as ideas and outside the remit of protesting such as going on strike or even advocating for higher pay. I call it the new buzz word because it is so much more expansive compared to previous words such as hate and harassment that merely holding an idea that goes against the Government is now "disruptive". I wonder if the likes of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion were useful idiots to bring in zero tolerance laws on disruption. I have also noticed that the opposition, mainstream media and even independent media are now aligning their views with the Government to be left alone in peace and not be deemed disruptive.
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  148. Intrasexual competition.
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  149. I call this Starmer's Trudeau moment.
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  150.  @cosmic-tiger  Hypergamy in action - women go for men with equal or preferably higher social status, something you gain as you enter your mid 20's into your 30's through experience. hard graft, education, establishing and progressing in a career, living independently, learning to drive and so forth - the ability to provide a secure, safe home to raise a family. The UK's Office of National Statistics shows that men marry four years older than women on average. Men who don't have their lives together by their 30's, who don't have experience in relationships and have developed a sense of independence will struggle to find someone and have children in a similar manner as women who leave finding someone to start a family in their late 30's onwards.
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  151. ​ @SuperZebezian  What do we do with all the frustrated single men who are getting nothing in the dating market? This won't stop at pornography, anything outside a private bedroom between consenting adults without payment is under threat.
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  152. You've hit the nail on the head. "Incels" will just merely be redefined as unattractive men. There was a spokesperson for Nottinghamshire Police who did confirm (despite MPs claiming this was scaremongering and fake news) that unwanted sexual advances such as flirting or messaging from an unattractive man IS grounds for a complaint to be made to the police in relation to a misogyny hate crime. Now where are the new prisons going to be built for all the unattractive bachelors to go?
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  153. Everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. It's going to be grim if you're elderly, single, disabled or a victim of domestic violence and abuse.
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  154. If you want to see how the Online Safety Bill will work in practice when it becomes law, Russia's Internet censorship seems to be a good analogue. Ultimately the UK Government are envious and would love to go full North Korean Kwangmyong as they lovingly watch from afar.
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  155. Won't have a choice in the UK under the Online Safety Act when it becomes law. If it isn't "suitable for children", it must be age verified with photo ID. The problem that pornographic websites will have is that it will be so bureaucratic and costly, they'll just block the UK as they've done in US states that implemented the same thing.
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  156. Worse still, there is now an ongoing moral panic and the definition is being watered down. Where a few thousand on a forum are now being extrapolated into many millions of bachelors. Because opponents place a value judgement that you only can be a heterosexual man if you are seen as attractive to a woman.
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  157. It is the men and boys that Tate is assumed to be "radicalising" because they are deemed to be "incels" that is the root of the moral panic being crafted. A term that is being declared more extreme and dangerous whilst the definition of who is one is being expanded and extrapolated from a few thousand on barely known discussion forums to single men in every neighbourhood, street and building.
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  158. He genuinely believes it's a documentary.
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  159. He certainly has in the last few hours. He's emulated Trudeau.
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  160. Talk of Gove, he is due to bring forth the new addition to the definition of extremism and make it statutory tomorrow. If he succeeds in making it statutory, not only would it affect the usual suspects (of which a certain man from Telford and a Romanian bald commentator have both been arrested in recent days), it would criminalise the Scottish National Party! The UK Government will have criminalised a democratically elected opposition party. Let that sink in.
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  161. Men need to get into the habit of making the first date free or low cost to weed out the time wasters who see you as a free meal ticket. Once you attain trust, then go for the restaurant date.
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  162.  @sithticklefingers7255  No. It's two parts of a question that correspond to both examples.
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  163. India just banned wheat exports. Prepare yourselves...
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  164. I suspect their counter argument will be the glamorisation and growth of gang culture and violence in the real world from an audience who grew up and played violent video games as opposed to what scientific papers have shown - that games and movies do not create real world violence but at most, short term aggression (ie. throwing the controller when losing).
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  165.  @kittycat5972  The usual talking points if they're single and into middle age or older tends to centre around how they are not prepared to settle for men who should "do better". Hence how the recent Psychology Today article went viral and how it brought out loads of articles declaring that men are failing women and women deserve a lot better. As in, taking a high jump pole which is already higher than a good number of men can jump and putting it a lot higher to the point that only the best of the best men could clear it.
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  166. It's not just the safety of children (and that's up for debate), it's the safety of women too. Dating apps will be expected to vet male users under the new law. And wait until July when the new ID/age verification requirements for all websites for each individual visit comes in.
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  167. ​ @skylinefever  And the counter argument would be the glamorisation and real life growth of gang culture and violence in the same audience who play GTA.
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  168. Masks have implemented a hierarchical set-up between groups. Public transport drivers who can exempt themselves vs the users who could not. Early on, shop workers and customers. Managers and workers. Politicians and their subjects. Only one side of this equation is allowed to be hypocritical and exempt themselves, only to wear them to continue the theatre.
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  169. The Government would rather shut down the Internet and create its own closed intranet with the large conglomerates. Such an undertaking will take time.
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  170. ​ @sigmacademy  But then you have to tell them that they will never find a partner, never marry and never have children unlike most of society. How do you do that without gloating, boasting, rubbing it in their face or schadenfreude? It would be like telling someone who suffered life-changing injuries that it sucks to be them, tell them to cope and boast about how able-bodied you are and what you can do as opposed to what they now can't.
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  171. 17:15 - I am not so sure men can recover. If they lack experience, a good couple of decades of experience from their parents growing up, from trial and error in high school, through relationships we experience in college, university and adulthood, then it will show clearly for a man who does not have their life together by their thirties. Lack of experience is a red flag to women. And it's not something you can learn like a trade or a qualification. It's why women in their thirties onwards go in general for divorced men rather than long term single men. It is the male equivalent of becoming the dreaded cat lady.
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  172. No-one, whether that is the women providing "girlfriend experiences", the dating apps or the self-help and life improvement coaches, have a financial interest to help men toward the goal of finding a partner. Because that would nullify their financial model of monetising male loneliness.
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  173. Asking a dating coach for advice about dating is like asking a hard left socialist for advice on how to be a successful capitalist.
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  174.  @888ssss  If you're referring to women in the dating market, the data does not back that up. Regardless of physical attractiveness and even disability, women are swamped with messages and matches. The only women not succeeding in dating are the ones who are not in the market.
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  175. They say they want to bring the disillusioned and outcast back into society and then simultaneously insult, belittle and mock them. That strategy will not end well.
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  176. Coming soon to Britain.
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  177. It isn't great when you get older either as you either get involved with someone in their twenties and society disapproves of large age gap relationships if you're not high social status or a celebrity. Or you encounter the "I'd rather be single than settle" crowd of your own age who are growing in numbers. Women who want but can't get the top tier of men because they have all the options and are chasing young attractive women, who refuse to compromise and date "down" so therefore stay single for the rest of their lives.
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  178. The documentaries on the Stasi were a warning, not an inspiration.
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  179. In fairness and in general, you should boycott EA on general principles.
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  180. Your average person in the street is going to be asking how Bitcoin pays their bills, their rent or mortgage, their food and so on? Can Dominic answer that because your average person isn't going to invest in cryptocurrency until they know they can survive and live as they do now with fiat money.
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  181. Mark Steyn was the canary in the coal mine. Now he gets to look on with a wry smile on his face knowing he is right.
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  182. Her video is an excellent promotional tool for bachelorhood.
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  183. This. The uncomfortable truth that people don't want to hear. Which is why most people fill this void with the concept of the "soulmate". For a percentage of men, the game was over before they were born.
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  184. The danger is that people are advocating for much more than that online as if a rubicon was crossed and there is no going back. And a reminder that YouTube doesn't just shadowban comments, it deletes them too.
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  185. It was always prevalent to a small percentage of the population during human history. We only ever think of the evolutionary winners. Everyone else has to still live the rest of their lives.
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  186. Who wants the state to become the arbiter of who dies?
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  187. The danger that the situation with Lineker will bring about is the prospect of censorship and instruction by proxy. Right now, employers (and the employer who will have to lead by example) and service providers enact legally bound contracts onto employees and service users of banks, payment processors and ISPs to adhere to behaviour and speech codes, including outside of the workplace and in your private life. With people complaining about the different treatment of Lineker to others, the solution provided will be a Universal Code of Conduct applied to anyone who wants a job, a bank account or an Internet connection (remember what happened to Carl and Patreon). If that seems far fetched, CoC's have been a staple of the Free and Open Source community for years now. They start with good intentions (who will declare themselves pro-harassment, pro-abuse or pro-criminality?) but then get co-opted and weaponised for political and ideological means. Anyone who says that adhering to a job or service contract is not a violation of free speech because its a private company or organisation and not a state enforcing it, careful what you wish for.
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  188. He's become the "leader of the incels" which is ironic because Tate has condemned incels and wants nothing to do with them.
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  189. Criticism is violence. Disagreement is treachery. Objection is radicalising. Welcome to the future of the Internet. Just wait until the Online Safety Bill becomes law and President Biden attempts to bring something equivalent in sidestepping the first amendment by claiming that all these things are not protected speech.
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  190. Connor seems to be blind to the concept of divorce. When it does happen, it will be blamed on the man not manning up and being a good enough husband.
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  191. There was a recent article pushing the concept of waiting until you are fifty to have a child and then giving examples of celebrities who have done so. The other thing to note is that men, like women, also have a clock. Not a biological one but an experience one. Both women and men need to get things in order by their middle ages or statistically they will almost likely end up childless and alone.
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  192. That might be the only way to change minds with the Government. If investment and enterprise exits the UK and they specifically state the Online Safety Bill is the reason, they will listen.
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  193. The reason why it won't work to tell men to go to pornography websites is because the men who use OnlyFans want a companion, communication and a girlfriend experience. The "hub" doesn't offer that. Even if these men have to pay. They can't get it through the dating market so they end up paying for a woman to acknowledge their existence. But having men develop views and experiences of a relationship this way is bad. He will get the impression that a woman's affection can be paid for. The women who provide the content simply see these men as customers who contribute to the bottom line and only have to provide what they pay for. Solve all that and simping is done.
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  194. For certain vulnerable groups, not just the elderly, it'll be too late by then. Starmer's damage will have already been done.
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  195. And we are now in a situation where we have affirmative action for women and girls in schools, colleges, universities and the workplace. Women are outearning young men while people are increasingly unable to get on the housing ladder and maintain a car. With a higher social status than men and as women generally find men attractive in terms of social status - provider and protector as well as the shift to worldwide online dating and women being told they don't need a man no more, you're now finding that more and more young men are unable to attain a relationship or any casual relations with a woman. Men are increasingly being segregated, shamed and sidelined in society with decreasing ability to achieve, earn and start a family. This will not end well.
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  196. I've noticed a start of a trend where middle aged single men who engaged in self-improvement to attract a partner, in good faith and with a positive mindset, are producing vlogs telling young men that said advice does not work. They've wasted twenty years and while they are fit, healthy and earning, outside of that, they only have an apartment and a few belongings to show for it.
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  197. And what Starmer announced is going to be a requirement by July for any site that hosts content that isn't "safe for kids", not just for the sale of knives. From an online safety law that was passed by the Tories! Starmer claims he's doing something to look like he's doing something but in reality he's done nothing.
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  198. It's a struggle to get any post to stay on any video for me nowadays. Regularly shadowbanned and have comments deleted. Meanwhile the bots can post freely without fear of instant deletion.
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  199. Be a male, go on social media and actively admit you get constantly rejected by women. And then see what response you get. It is not going to be praise, admiration and love.
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  200.  @josephfisher426  Keeping your house habitable - ie. warm and heated - is a requirement of your tenancy agreement. Failing to do so and your landlord finds out, you'll be handed an eviction notice in a market where they are hundreds who will take your place in a heartbeat.
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  201. Remove "under 18" and the Government will agree. Until they are ready to replace it with a closed intranet.
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  202. What if that rejection results in a complaint to HR? Or a word with the police officer in the nightclub? Or the online dating app that will soon have a legal duty to report a man who a woman took offence to matching with her and is reporting him for harassment? The days of "the worse that can happen is that she says no" are long gone.
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  203. The SNP plan to make a specific anti-misogyny law. Labour will eventually follow suit for the rest of the UK.
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  204. Particuarly in these times where those in power talk of rape culture, "listen and believe" and the concept of guilty until proven innocent. Careful what you wish for, Connor and Harry.
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  205. Makes a difference from the usual solution presented by commentators which could be boiled down to telling men to "be better".
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  206. At this point, incels are one of the most hated groups of people outside of the worst of the worst criminals - not just with feminists. Because we place value on men based on their ability to attract a partner. This is why his opponents use that term against him, it is probably the worst thing they could call him (despite the fact he has a wife, it's not reality that matters, its the insult). If we aligned how we treat criminals for their actions compared to the hatred that incels get, they would get 10-25 years in prison for not having a girlfriend and they would be deemed incapable of rehabilitation, mercy or liberty. The only difference compared to their equivalent hated groups is that being an incel and not having a partner is not a crime. Yet.
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  207. They're coming for every job. Bricklaying and lorry driving are already seeing progress in developments for automation and it will be sooner than people think. Because it's not just about wages but hours worked, pensions, insurance and many other costs and flaws humans have. The only option we will have in the future will be to be sole traders but it also leaves a question - if we have no jobs left, how does the economy run?
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  208. We still haven't figured out why Politics For All and the other accounts got banned. Suggestions include transgender activists mass reporting the network, the posting of a Scottish party arrest video, not disclosing advertising on their accounts or potential libel on the Football For All account. One of the other suggested theories is deeply worrying though. A media law expert suggested the For All network has been engaging in mass copyright infringement by posting links to copyrighted work and allowing photos to be posted without permission on their accounts and outside the realm of fair dealing (or fair use). Well, that would also sink Reddit for UK users, HotUKDeals, search engine results served in the UK, discussion forums, memes and social media users in the UK. Politics For All does have a GETTR account but they've not updated it for a long while when I last checked.
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  209. AI has already taken coders jobs.
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  210. Any chance the plane can be diverted to Amsterdam Schipol where he can be given a express transit to The Hague?
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  211. We seem to be going from one extreme to another - from absolute tolerance of "love" to zero tolerance of "disruption".
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  212. One word - hypergamy.
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  213. Two things missed, Labour is lobbying for VPN's to be restricted or to their preference, banned to prevent people bypassing the new law. There is lobbying to get unwanted communication beyond cyber-flashing included in the Online Safety Bill as well as public harassment law. That would mean if you get rejected on a dating app, you've broken the law if that comes to pass.
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  214. I think a lot of the problems we have with single people in the dating market is that they don't have a closed social circle, live alone and they are wholly reliant on online dating which is awful for both sexes. The majority of people in society meet in real life and in closed social circles of people they know or are introduced to and have never used online dating. Surprised me too because I thought that online dating was becoming dominant but recent studies suggest the opposite.
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  215. Anyone who argues this knows they won't stop with porn. It'll spread to any behaviour outside of a private bedroom between consenting adults without payment.
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  216. Eventually there'll be so much work that only the robots can do it for a minuscule amount that a human would need to be paid for.
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  217. Where's the social media filter that allows me to be six feet, with a six pack and look like I earn a six figure salary? Or does equality not work that way?
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  218. People do not like to hear uncomfortable truths. In the same way Galileo was deemed one of the worst human beings alive by those who refused to acknowledge that the Earth revolves around the Sun, now those who state evolutionary psychological aspects about human mating and attraction (Peterson included) get labelled as some of the worst human beings alive by their critics. The thing is, life isn't fair and you can only go so far with self-improvement. You can't stretch to six foot at the gym. You can't lift to good genetics. Half of your personality is genetic. The gym will not provide you with facial symmetry and good bone structure. You can only do so much and the gym is not the miracle cure being sold to men. Sadly, other men and other women are now exploiting single men by either enrolling them onto "self-improvement" courses that they will inevitably fail and then be up-sold onto more expensive courses in a never-ending cycle or spending all of their money on a "girlfriend experience" via OnlyFans.
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  219. Misandry - the socially acceptable discrimination.
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  220. If pornography was to be banned, masturbation made a crime and nothing is done to remedy the current situation around dating where increasing numbers of men are getting zero matches and zero dates, we will end up in a very bad situation as a society.
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  221. The problem, and why there has been a pushback against this sort of thing, is that it isn't just high value males and other women who notice them - mid to low value males notice too a.k.a. "creeps" who give the "ick" - and that's a problem to these women because you can't legally stop said males going about their legal business but the issue is that they can be within their sight and presence. It is that which causes offence and calls to protect their safety.
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  222. Another analogy would be peanuts. People can die from a peanut allergy. We don't ban peanuts just in case one person has an allergic reaction. We inform people of the risk that a food product has peanuts and allow the public to make an informed choice. Yet when it comes to the virus, people are advocating for this very reaction in terms of every single aspect of reality. This ideology is pernicious and grossly authoritarian. An ideology where you are being coerced and forced into consuming a product from a private company by the state.
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  223. Amendment NC3 of the Crime and Policing bill will ban it alongside sexual behaviour outside of a minimum of two consenting adults in a physical private location without payment or commercial benefit. The amendment has the backing of a lot of MPs that it will look likely to pass.
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  224. On the subject of the Online Safety Bill, Labour is pushing for Virtual Private Networks to be banned in the UK.
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  225. From what I understand, the proposal also intends to make employment, welfare and the ability to run a business dependant on national service (or conscription if rolled out to all working age men).
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  226. I would theorise that the more perpetually single that someone is, the more likely they will give dating advice for a publication.
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  227. Nottingham City Council has told people to wear them outdoors. Where I live, it's approaching 50% by my estimate in the last few days, up from about 10% at most in the past. It is sad to see because it indicates that masks are being seen as the miracle saviour from the virus. If I recall correctly, a recent poll claimed people had more faith in masks than the vaccine!
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  228. Recent study presented by DatePsychology suggests 20% of women would report someone to an authority figure (HR/police/dating app moderators) if approached by an unattractive male. In the past, a faux-pas or unrequited approach would at worst be met with a slap and temporary embarrassment. Now it could ruin your life and threaten your liberty. That is why men are not approaching women, the risk is not worth the reward. We now live in a time in the UK where police officers are stationed in nightclubs to deter men from making unwanted approaches to women and legislation to deal with unwanted communication and behaviour online and offline is coming down the line.
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  229.  @mrboost4186  Physical attraction. Primarily, facial attraction.
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  230.  @viorp5267  Bachelor Taxes are not a new thing. What is potentially new is criminalisation or blacklisting of such men.
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  231. For an agenda. Bearing in mind that there's been a recent push regarding the safety of women and girls and misogyny in society by the media, politicians and activists as of late.
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  232. See also the suggested solution to the issue regarding women in sports.
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  233. 4. Find five to six figures for basic treatment. Healthcare is very expensive and no-one else wants to fund yours if its privatised. How would you sell this to the working class individual on minimum wage where a years salary won't even touch the sides of how much they will have to pay?
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  234.  @gigi6374  The thing is, were going to force no fap on them by the direction of travel of the lobbyists for women's safety. Prohibition does not work.
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  235. The irony being is that there could be police officers who are currently committing acts of sexism who will soon be expected to enforce three new laws in the future that will punish acts of sexism online, in public and in private with up to two years imprisonment.
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  236. And it will be back on the market for far more than that. The BBC's Homes Under The Hammer has a lot to answer for.
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  237. It's like seeing three billionaires lecturing the homeless on how easy it is to be rich. Completely out of touch with reality.
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  238. I've been the only unmasked person the vast majority of the time I have been in shops since Monday. When I do see someone else unmasked, it's the staff. Worse still, since this weekend, I have noted a marked and noticeable increase in people wearing masks outside even away from town centres. The danger being is that if more people follow suit, masks become a social norm and being unmasked becomes a social taboo.
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  239. It's now the latter and is a belief held more widely outside of feminism than you think because we place a value on men based on their ability to attract a partner.
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  240. We quickly forgot what PayPal announced recently in terms of the 'good' scenario. Authoritarian tyranny does not become morally acceptable just because "the good guys" - ie. the private sector - are doing it.
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  241. The first bleep rhymes with "rental blueness" and the second bleep rhymes with "rental" and could describe someone and the condition of having a psychological disorder.
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  242.  @krichardson113  Someone in Calgary did not get the message with their new "Street Harassment" law. You can be prosecuted and fined even if it is not on the street. This is the consequence of such rhetoric to tackle such behaviour out of society and it is why I wrote this comment to warn about it.
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  243. There is a desire by Governments to protect the safety of children (and women) by banning vices. We know of the disposable vapes and tobacco but they'll also target non-disposable vapes. There is also a desire to ban pornography, nudity and sexual behaviour outside of a established couple. A consultation is now underway in the UK and Oklahoma could have it banned by the end of this year. They'll come for gambling too. The only vice they won't target will be alcohol. I wonder why?
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  244. That affects the Internet too which is why YouTube is heavily pushing Premium and nudging free users toward getting a subscription. The problem will come is that people only have a finite amount of money and if people had to pay for everything they consume for free or paywalled items at what is profitable for streaming firms, it will get very expensive, very quickly.
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  245. And now European countries are dipping their toe into the water regarding mandatory universal mask mandates. You don't end compliance with more compliance, you have to rebel.
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  246.  @quillo2747  If you work for someone, they have the right to control what you say, what you think and what you do in your private life outside of work? Because that doesn't just apply now to anyone in the public sector, it applies to the private sector too and anyone who uses particular services such as banks, payment processors and ISPs. It's what got Carl kicked off of Patreon, right wingers having their banks accounts closed and people having their Internet connections cut off because of a violation of their "abuse" policy. These things also impact your ability to speak and act freely in your private life.
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  247.  @riftvallance2087  The Labour Party in opposition tried to push an amendment to the then Online Safety Bill to ban VPN's which failed. They're now in power with a huge majority. It's only a matter of when, not if, the use and sale of VPN's are made illegal.
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  248.  @thehammer9599  We didn't have AI to replace the skilled jobs previously.
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  249. Any state that implemented age verification ended up with all the sites withdrawing service from that jurisdiction.
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  250. Lonely people are the one group of people whom it is acceptable to mock, belittle and lecture. We condemn the lonely while those who see an business opportunity are immorally profiting from loneliness.
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  251. Daily Mail readers demanded that people only have kids if they can afford them. So society said "OK, then". Now they reap the consequence of that demand. In terms of men, more and more men are failing to meet the basic requirements of what women want in a man because the cost of living is so high and the dating market is so skewed due to dating apps toward a small percentage of men who get everything. If you're constantly ignored in the dating game, can't afford to get on the housing ladder, need a degree or two during your twenties to get anywhere near a wage to raise a family and told how you're a bad person because you were born male, that all has a negative effect on men.
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  252. And they can inform every other bank, building society and utility via CIFAS that you are too much of a risk to provide business to for six years.
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  253. The problem is that we're trying to explain with logic where logic is absent and it is purely emotional, subconscious and primordial. This is why men who lack the ability to read feelings, emotions or body language struggle with dating and relationships because they're ultimately incompatible - like running software designed exclusively for Unix on Windows. I find the video at the beginning of this segment to be an excellent tool to remind men as to why they're not dating or getting in relationships. In terms of the 8:10 mark, I have also heard of the concept that women want to be the central role in the movie that is their life.
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  254. Left wing: "Free speech for me, consequences for thee" - because they are always keen to say that words have consequences for their opponents. Right wing: "Free speech for me, contractual obligations for thee" - actual paraphrase of a TalkTV discussion today. I'm sure they supported Toby Young's PayPal account being closed for breaching his "contractual obligation" because it is clearly to them not a free speech issue. Right?
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  255. Most people tend to meet in closed social groups either online (rising in popularity and not on dating apps) or offline. The problem single people have, particularly as they get into their thirties and their options run out, is how to get into these closed social groups from an outsiders perspective?
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  256.  @adamduffield7782  The cheap dehumidifiers only work in a small space. If you want to deal with mould in a property, you're looking at around £300 plus electrical running costs (up to £45 a month on SVT). And it doesn't deal with the root cause or additional preventative measures either.
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  257. Because it's the norm for an increasing number of men to be invisible.
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  258. An old woman is going to be helped onto the lifeboats if they were on a sinking ship. Men on the other hand...
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  259. I'm sick of parents who refuse to accept responsibility and accountability for their children. They demand the Government do their job for them.
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  260. Intrasexual competition for the physically attractive, high status men at the gym.
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  261. Do they deserve to be punished under a social credit style punishment system - forced to go to the gym, take weight loss medication and restricted in what they eat or face consequences and restrictions? Because that is being proposed as part of an obesity strategy in the UK. After all, you never see a fat person in an authoritarian state.
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  262. As of yesterday, certain viewers are being served "We're Together" advertising on YouTube by the UK Government promoting multiculturalism post disorder.
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  263. Self-service will come for their jobs and is already rolling out in pubs now. And that's if pubs still survive that isn't owned by Wetherspoons.
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  264. And yet real accounts get their comments shadowbanned and deleted.
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  265.  @zypalitra8080  It just proves that it's all theatre. I look forward to two weeks time when case numbers have not exploded and the pro-mask brigade will have to see that uncomfortable truth.
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  266. Now what happens when they do improve yet suddenly find that they can't reach the levels of the top 20% of men or even the top 50% of men who get 95% of the attention in the dating market? Because everyone has a ceiling and for some people, theirs is lower than others. It's why we don't expect everyone to become CEO's, world record sprinters or celebrities. Whether its IQ, genetics or circumstance. It's why monogamy was a far better way of ensuring a stable society in exchange for labour. With the dating market heading toward polygamy and being the brutal system it is now, increasing numbers of men simply can't compete.
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  267. Pre-selection in action. Also, men are valued in terms of how women view them. It's why curse words and insults aimed at men are based around being a single man and not succeeding in finding a partner.
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  268. I can only foresee two options - either Ukraine is just simply handed over to Russia as whole or it will be bankrupted and then seized as whole by Russia. It seems to me that Zelenskyy gambled and lost. I can also foresee that America and BRICS along with the rest of the world will unite while Europe and woke politics becomes isolated in the world, particularly the UK and Germany unless things change.
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  269. There is an increasing chorus of people who want the UK to transition to a pay-as-you-go privatised healthcare system. They look at the US insurance system and think its too expensive to run and they look at other insurance based systems and feel it is unfair, burdensome and socialist. People are actively and happily paying up front and in full the market rate for healthcare as waiting lists increase.
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  270. It's not the wolf whistling per se that is considered the problem - it is unattractive men. If a man with a six pack and handsome looks wolf whistled, I bet there wouldn't be an issue.
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  271. The last bit is exactly what is hoped will be criminalised. Unattractive men. There is a story in the Daily Mail where a woman is being investigated for racial slurs on a tube train. She claimed she got angry because... an unattractive man asked her out!
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  272. And if you are in your 30s and over as a man with little to no sexual or relationship experience, you're in trouble. And you can't fake that either. Its why statistically women on dating sites in middle age and older go for divorced men over single, never attached men.
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  273. You don't play a rigged game.
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  274. The Online Safety Act disagrees with you.
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  275. It was 30p a meal. That's why he gets called 30p Lee by his detractors.
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  276. I bet that man has high social status. If you don't, it doesn't matter if you're 30, 40, 60 or 100, you ain't going to be an attractive proposition to any woman who wants children.
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  277. The energy price cap means people now pay (roughly depending on region) 10p per kWh for gas and 32p per kWh for electric. And its likely to remain near those levels for the foreseeable future with a statically high standing charge. I opted out in February to go on a new tracker tariff. Now I am currently paying around 3.5p per kWh for gas and 16p per kWh for electric. Not quite the prices I paid in 2020 but getting close. The only way you could opt out of the food price cap is to either grow your own or have the ability to get to a farm shop if the farmers sell direct to the public. Many won't have either option.
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  278. At this point, the definition of incel has been extrapolated to any male who is not succeeding in the dating market or in a relationship.
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  279. Not while birth control and contraception exists. Get rid of both and make every sexual encounter a possibility for conception and things will change. But then, do we want to go down that road?
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  280. The uncomfortable truth is that men are also invisible, and not just when they're 18-24. If you lack high social status, live with your parents or rent (an apartment or small house), do not have independence through your own transport, lack a well paid job, under six foot, have average to below physical and facial attractiveness, good health and in particular the one thing that damns the advice telling men to wait until their thirties and the appliance of SMV universally, lack dating, relationship and pre-selection experience, you will always be invisible. Women have a biological clock, men have an experience clock.
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  281. I look forward to our future social credit system based on Chinese society where if you're not working out at the gym and not an alpha, you're docked points and can't contribute to society.
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  282. Which if the rhetoric from one influential Tory MP is accurate, will be banned in due course, not merely age restricted.
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  283. We know that if it was Leonardo DiCaprio or Henry Cavill doing this sort of behaviour, there would be no story, How people react to you and if they take offence to it is determined by your looks.
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  284. The only solution that will please Connor in this situation is making bachelorhood a criminal offence from the age of 21. Someone has a period of time to find a partner and if they don't, legal consequences. But then, how would the criminal justice system "reform" unsuccessful single men and how do we deal with the reality of the numbers of single men outnumbering single women in society?
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  285.  @ASRMN27  The only alternative is a national Intranet under complete and total control of the Government. Not even North Korea would get rid of a computer network within its territory. I'd rather not go down that road but the idea is worrying gaining support.
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  286. Chinese authorities wouldn't capitulate to them, quite the opposite. And they know it. That's why they won't dare protest in China.
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  287. The only way to solve that would be to abolish due process. Do we really want to do that in these times of the likes of MeToo?
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  288.  @RoganGunn  The issue is going to be when people argue that Lineker was treated differently to others, leading to employers and service providers being given a solution - a Universal Code of Conduct that all employees (and employers as they lead by example) and service users have to agree to as part of their legally binding contract. It will ensure anyone who has a job, a bank account or an Internet connection agrees to behave and speak in a way that doesn't offend, is abusive, causes harassment, is discriminatory and so forth. All sounds like good intentions, no-one would disagree, right? Until you realise that it can be used for political or ideological ends. Anyone who believes a woman is an adult human female would be in trouble because that would be considered transphobic, a violation and therefore actionable as one example. If this seems far fetched, such a policy has already been implemented. If you contribute to Free and Open Source software, chances are, you already agreed to abide by a Code of Conduct. The Contributor Covenant is the one that is used in FOSS. That will likely be the outcome of what happens post Lineker.
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  289. The way that we present dating advice is symbolic of survivorship bias. We suggest that everyone can become the top percentile of men if only they socialise, go to the gym, adopt top-notch "game" and become successful in their career. Problem is, can you lift your way to good genetics, facial features and bone structure? Does a gym have equipment to stretch you to six foot? Can you improve your IQ on a treadmill? The uncomfortable truth is that there will be winners and losers in life and that some men will fail by default before they've even been born.
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  290. Which is why feminists will lobby the Government to never allow it to be available to the public.
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  291. How long before the solution given at the end of the video becomes the solution for a lot more people - criminals, left wingers, critics, opponents? Because what is done to people you hate today could be done to you or people you support tomorrow - such as a certain outspoken man from Telford.
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  292. Only a matter of time before someone launches an AI matchmaking service. The problem is, unless you're paying potentially thousands of pounds, it does not make financial sense for them to find you a lifetime partner and subsequently stop contributing to their ongoing income forever. It's why dating apps are bad for finding a long term partner by design.
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  293. You also get to see the con when its 30 below as all the vapour from your breath escapes between the pores in your mask and through any gaps between your face and the mask.
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  294. Can relate. After exiting the dating market, or 'datexit' as it were, alongside the social media apps later down the line happened to be the two most positive life decisions I have made to improve my wellbeing.
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  295. ​ @shrunkensimon  The men they want do not need to commit because they don't have to - they will always have choices. The men who will commit are the men single women do not want.
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  296. There was a recent social media post of a group of men where one of the men was acting as the father of the group - organising everyone else. That post was inundated with women asking to date him.
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  297. I'm guessing they said that to appease YouTube. Defending Wallace and condemning those complaining about him would likely sink the channel. Which is ironic because not so long ago, they did a video saying he did nothing wrong but now have u-turned on their position!
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  298. While pointing the finger at the lone wolf and shouting that they're the real threat.
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  299. There was a study a few years ago on misogyny sent via Twitter and it found just over half of sexist posts came from... other women!
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  300. Making Whitty a Sir is the greatest recruitment tool for the campaign to make Britain a republic.
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  301. I can imagine Julia Hartley-Brewer will be coming back to talkRADIO at breakfast next week thinking "what has James done?" Not just on this issue, I find Max to have a superiority complex and one which requires us all to bend the knee to experts as if they are infallible, perfect and unquestionable. He lectured his listeners regarding the vaccine on the basis that he thinks they're easily led into conspiracy theories and are not experts in the field of epidemiology. His attitude and contempt toward the listeners, who pay the advertisers who pay his wages, really got my back up. I just hope he hasn't cause collateral damage to Hartley-Brewer's ratings by having listeners abandon the station in disgust.
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  302. "Equal pay" ended up bankrupting a council and the consequence of pay going down to equalise everyone and now the bins are not getting emptied. I bet everyone except the council could have seen that coming.
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  303. The Government would ultimately want a "national intranet" akin to North Korea, Iran, Cuba and the like for residential use. "For your safety", of course.
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  304. They arrested the Tate brothers and a certain man from Telford recently. Also, Michael Gove is due to introduce a new addition to the definition of extremism that would encapsulate the previously mentioned individuals.
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  305. Just a clarification to your first news article, East Riding of Yorkshire Council just released a statement that there are no monkeypox cases in the area.
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  306. High status, attractive male with options acts like every other high status, attractive male on dating apps and social media. And it was enabled by the women who contacted him. More at 11.
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  307. Or do like China where they're outcast from society and treated as if they don't exist while alive.
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  308.  @suckieduckie  The argument is that everything about you solely is defined by your ability to get a woman pregnant and have a family. Nothing else.
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  309. It looks like this afternoon the UK Government is turning its attention to Elon Musk and X.
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  310. If GB News implodes and falls, people will go to TalkTV. As will GB News detractors and they will shut that station down too. As for online as a refuge, have we all forgotten the Online Safety Act shaped elephant in the room which intends to implement the same, if not stricter, standards and regulations on the Internet as they do for broadcast media?
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  311. Next up, the big bad wolf publishes a book to teach little pigs how to build their houses.
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  312. ​ @evbbjones7  Healthcare is very expensive. It is not akin to a hotel stay. Everything is itemised and billed for - labour, drugs, services, materials and so forth. Drugs are very expensive when not subsidised. Expertise is very expensive, ask anyone who has needed legal advice and the staff in a private hospital will command a high wage. Cleanliness and hygiene are paramount and that costs money. Plus there will be a mark-up to make a profit and an incentive to keep you in as long as possible to maximise revenue.
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  313. The publishers aren't happy about the concept of lending, distributing, second hand sales or ownership. They want full control of media, information, knowledge and ideas. The Internet Archive is only the beginning.
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  314. The big stumbling block is that by default, unless you have a high barrier to entry in terms of cost (prohibitive for anyone below the middle class), dating apps prefer people to not develop long term relationships as it impacts their ability to keep people on the app and profit from them long term. The free/low to mid cost model actually has a perverse incentive when it comes to dating and relationships.
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  315.  @dorugoramon0518  Ironically, vetting of suitors from peers and parents used to be a thing.
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  316.  @davidadiwego4608  No. According to the BBC, it's all websites. From what I can tell, it's websites that have an age restriction. That includes social media, YouTube, retailers, gaming, forums and a lot of websites. It's not just adult websites. It never was.
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  317. 6:01 - I've seen many an argument that contraception has brought negative consequences to society and that a ban would allow a return to traditional conservative family values and a return to the stigmatisation of promiscuity. I am not a fan of banning things being on the libertarian side of the political spectrum but I think dismissing the "ban on contraception" point as nothing more than only affects the individual is dismissing concerns about their effect on society as a whole. Contraception has brought about many of the concerns that you have raised on this video.
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  318. And yet they're also planning to ban cigarettes with a rolling age ban. Eventually all the revenue from the vices they're banning will have to come from somewhere.
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  319. While coarse and not the way i would have put it, is Fox really wrong in his conclusion? They wont stop with trying to shut down GB News, they'll come for Talk TV next.
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  320. I have noticed that an increasing number of women are going to gym to not work out per se but to seek physically attractive, high status men. As a compliment to online dating apps and as a replacement for previous social environments to meet people such as bars and nightclubs. The definition of whether something is unwanted, creepy and harassing is based on his attractiveness.
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  321. The second you're rejected on Tinder by a single woman. Or haven't got a Tinder account.
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  322. I witnessed what my friend went through with a divorce that she initiated despite doing the dirty with the neighbour while he worked himself to the bone. She got the cash and prizes, fed his daughter poisonous lies about him and he was a shell of a man afterward. It took years before his life got back on track but he'll still face the consequences for the rest of his life. He stated in no uncertain terms that he will never get married again. I fully understand why knowing what he went through.
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  323.  @davidrenton  Not any more (he was not held in any high regard considering the reaction or emotions from his victims)... Also noting that the exception does not disprove the rule. For example, Leonardo DiCaprio has never dated anyone above 25 but he is in the top 0.1% of men but that doesn't mean every man in their 40s will attract twenty-something women. He is an exception.
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  324. Until VPN's are banned completely and payment processors are told to not provide service to them by law. As is being proposed in the UK now.
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  325. Yet. But it will only be a matter of time before large companies who can invest in robots and AI undercut sole traders and puts them all out of business. We're already at the point where machines can self-diagnose faults and robots have the dexterity needed to do physical jobs.
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  326. The media and opinion pollsters don't go too far in asking about people's views on the death penalty because I think they would be shocked to discover that most people would support it for all crimes, including minor ones, as a brutal deterrent to committing any crime. It is the consequence of people being fed up with the justice system and the perceived softness of it. Full disclosure, I am opposed to the death penalty on numerous grounds. I should also say that punishment is not a deterrent - if it was, states that had it would be crime free utopias. The way you reduce crime is to have police officers (not CCTV) on the street and crime prevention to maximise the prospect of getting caught and minimising the risk of becoming a victim.
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  327. They won't touch alcohol by banning it but just making it prohibitively expensive so the MPs can still enjoy their boozing. They'll likely ban all the other vices - vapes in all forms, tobacco, gambling, pornography, nudity, sexuality outside of a committed relationship, fat, sugar, salt and so forth.
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  328. 13:41 - The consultant cardiologist who featured in the unmentionable segment on GB News was also interviewed in a unmentionable interview on Maajid Nawaz's programme on LBC.
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  329. It's a loaded term they use against opponents because they deem a man's value to be based on his ability to attract a partner. They deem a man who fails to attract a partner to be part of one of the worst groups of people in the world, hence why it is used against opponents. It's now akin to calling someone a criminal of one of the most heinous types of crime you can commit.
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  330. If what I see from people on social media, forums and commentators is true to what they believe, we've passed that rubicon. Free speech is over and the civil rules of engagement are now null and void. There is intense anger and these things have been replaced with calls for YouTube ToS unfriendly actions.
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  331. It's like alcohol, tobacco, gambling, takeaways or any other vice. Moderation is key. I suggest the reason why there is such an opposition to pornography is because of the assumed audience of it and their inability to attract a partner as a man's worth is based on his ability to attract a partner.
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  332. Now ask critics of ID about their view on voter ID.
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  333. History has shown that when birthrates decline, the state gets involved and it is the bachelors who pay. And it has always failed.
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  334. ​ @CharlesMCFC  The problem is, hypergamy does not disappear as a woman ages. Young women have the pick of the men and go for the top 20% of men in terms of social status. What you increasingly see in your 30s onwards are women in long term relationships, single mothers who do not want any more children and you're now funding and raising a child (or children) that are another man's or women who increasingly use the mantra of "I'd rather be single than settle". And if you have no experience of dating, relationships and life plus are not in the top 20% of men in terms of social status, socio-economic status, earnings and independence, forget it. It's like putting up the Sunday League XI against Liverpool and hoping the Sunday League XI side will win.
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  335. The former is being lied to but for those who are young, there is time to turn things around or at least grieve. The latter destroys your life the second someone feels dissatisfied and many people who have lost everything to their ex have ended up in a dark place and made many more people grieve because of the final decision they made for their life.
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  336. They're not dead on airlines, health and care settings. Restrictions continue in those settings indefinitely with no sign of them ever being lifted. Forevermore, a persistent reminder of fear and danger on every person's face by demand of compliance.
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  337. The social media policy that applies in work time also applies outside of work. And not just to nurses. If you're employed, chances are, you have a social media policy you have to abide by.
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  338. Britain says hold my keg. There's already complaints that Australia's new social media ban for under 16's doesn't go anywhere near far enough by commentators and politicians in the UK.
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  339. Steamboat Willie featuring "generic cartoon mouse with round ears".
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  340. From what I understand, the ability to uncover dislike counts outside of a content creators statistics will soon be disabled as well. Of course, as mentioned, people will just go to views vs likes, views vs comments, likes vs comments, videos vs video responses. Then what YouTube? Take away view counts, likes, comments and the ability to upload?
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  341. Generally when someone speaks down to single men, not merely "incels", it is usually done from a position of ignorance from reality. In reality, some of the biggest critics and opponents of OnlyFans are the very people being claimed to be their biggest customers!
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  342. The Britisher made a good point in his latest video - we're seeing the concept now that not only creation and distribution being a crime, but also the consumption. That is now being applied to speech. In addition to this, we're now on the cusp of criminalising certain groups, behaviours and appearance based on inalienable (genetic) characteristics from this review and inevitable new misogyny laws down the line.
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  343. Listening to texts and calls coming in to a radio station today, the public knows what's going on and support what Anderson, Braverman, Scully and co are saying. But the presenters and the commentators were being very careful to condemn them all and tow the line of acceptable opinion. As an aside, the Rochdale Reform UK candidate was given a credible death threat serious enough the Police is investigating. Condemnation of the threat by the politicians when?
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  344. One problem with the have everyone become parents by forc... pressure line is, from what I can recall, there are not enough women who are fertile for all the men. Beside the cries of "my body, my choice" that would come from this, you'd either have to accept that there will be men who will never father children and punishing them would be immoral or have to accept open relationships which will be against your morals and principles.
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  345. We are also now understanding the consequences and medical effects of the birth control pill on hormones and mating. Plus there is also the move from real world dating (with one exception) to online dating. The one exception is the gym, because its being increasingly treated as the go to place for finding an physically attractive male with the best genes.
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  346. @ Sounds about right for YouTube. I'm amazed my original comment has been seen and not deleted, to be honest. They regularly shadowban and delete.
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  347. Are you happy for a private company or organisation to legally compel you to not hold an opinion, not speak or behave in a certain manner in your private life? Because if you work, that's your reality now as you have a Social Media policy at least. If you hold a bank account, use the Internet or make payments through a payment processor you agreed to an Acceptable Use Policy. It is that which got Carl kicked off of Patreon, closed bank accounts of right wingers and anyone deemed to be "abusive" can have their Internet connection cut off.
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  348.  @barriewilliams4526  Therefore if the BBC is a "state broadcaster", the state is censoring him then?
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  349. In the same week as the findings of a report on the Metropolitian Police came out, the Government has allowed the passage of a new bill through the House of Commons that will make anything deemed sexist behaviour in public a criminal offence punishable by up to two years in prison. ETA: Even more ironic is that Scotland is proposing a new bill that could criminalise being involuntary celibate which is likely to be adopted across the rest of the UK under their own legislation in time.
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  350. They're fine with bad people being executed by the state. What happens when bad people take over running the state and decide the Lotuseaters are bad people?
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  351. People haven't asked for the roles to be reversed. They've asked for much, much more. Ever since what happened last weekend. Asking for calls to action that I can't say here because it would violate ToS. As if we've crossed a rubicon and the patience of the right has snapped.
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  352. Doesn't matter anyway because everyone meets through online dating apps. The area I live in has one of the lowest female to male ratios so for men here it is either online or move.
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  353.  @finnphillosa1431  Actually it was worse. Without putting words into his mouth, Harry would like to see genres of music he doesn't believe to be "indigenous" banned. That's not a good look and a comment that YouTube will delete because censorship of criticism.
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  354. @ArgentWolf95 Age verification is already a reality in a number of US states and will be coming to European countries soon.
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  355. All women have options unless they have actively opted out of dating altogether. A number of men do not.
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  356. What about those who believe that contraception is immoral, unethical and responsible for the societal ills that we have? Because contraception being banned is a case of when, not if.
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  357.  @scousemouse9715  The UK literally has a nudge unit whose job is to coerce and manipulate unconsciously the behaviour of the public in a certain direction.
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  358. You missed the word "unattractive" between "without" and "men" in that sentence.
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  359. Can I recommend a book 'A State Of Fear' by Laura Dodsworth which gives an excellent and in-depth view of how the UK Government has used fear and psychological behavioural techniques to control and manipulate the public during lockdown.
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  360. Most people tend to meet in closed social circles, predominately online (not via dating apps) and offline. Meeting strangers via cold approach and online dating isn't popular nowadays and particularly so since "the event". The online dating stats surprised me because I expected them to boom in popularity in the last few years. The problem for the audience who are likely to be single and lacking social circles, particularly in your thirties onwards, is how to form new social circles when everyone else have partners, careers, children and so forth. What if you are introverted and find socialising exhausting yet want companionship?
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  361. Just a warning - what business are paying now will come to you as a domestic customer in April. With a nice mark-up.
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  362. We have an energy price cap in the UK now. Guess who got screwed royally?
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  363. The birth control pill changed everything. But no-one is going to dare ban it because any political party that does it will be annihilated at the ballot box. Banning pornography on the other hand (either directly or introducing age verification which causes every site to block access to that jurisdiction)...
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  364.  @rswindol  I've seen rhetoric suggesting far worse - YouTube ToS disapproving levels of worse - from commentators online. It coincides with a right wing that has crossed the rubicon and has had enough of the left.
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  365. There are ways the likes of Iran, Russia and other authoritarian countries to stop VPN's working but the only 100% effective way is to implement a national Intranet. Which is where countries will likely go by physically disconnecting the populous from the Internet and making the Internet a privilege for the state and large corporations.
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  366. Are these the same women who demand that men be physically fit and well kept and that men with dad bods/beer bellies and excessive hair is not fine?
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  367. Not while contraception and birth control are still available. But then should we ban such things?
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  368.  @SomeKidFromBritain  There's an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill going through the House of Commons right now that will not just ban OF but also the behaviours I mentioned previously if it is passed.
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  369. People of a certain age and older will remember getting the latest football scores, news headlines and lottery numbers from teletext. The "Internet" of its day. Limited characters on screen so you couldn't push a political agenda, no subscription wall blocking the news pages and limited, non-intrusive advertising (or none on Ceefax). Still going in mainland Europe.
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  370.  @Oak__  You don't have to be extreme to be cancelled. Uncomfortable truths achieve the same consequence. The past shows us that with Gailieo.
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  371. The next step will be to shame and cancel men who do not have partners. There is already an agenda to malign Tate as the leader of bachelors, of which involuntary celibacy has now been redefined to not having a partner, as was discussed on a TV/radio station debate yesterday.
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  372. Watch on an alternative platform like Bitchute... except in Denmark where the site has been blocked by legal order and attempting to circumvent this block (ie. using a VPN) could land you in legal trouble with the authorities.
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  373. Same in the UK. In general (exemptions apply), if you are in a public place, you have no expectation of privacy, there is no requirement for anyone filming to ask for permission - with one exception I'll mention later - and the subject of the photo does not own the copyright, the photo taker does. It might be polite if someone asks you not to film them to respect their wish but ultimately, they have no rights. The only time the police can stop and arrest you is if it's in relation to a criminal act or terrorism. The one exception is if the photos are used for commercial purposes where you do legally need permission. If you monetise your TikTok or YouTube channel or X channel, that is classed as a commercial entity under the law.
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  374. There are people who follow religions that deem it immoral to prevent the creation of life pre-conception. That will be the next argument, the criminalisation of contraception under religious and moral grounds.
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  375. Anyone who tries to sue will have the bank or building society tell the judge to hold the session in private (without you) and inform them you have committed fraud. Then you lose because they have the money, power and influence.
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  376. Welcome to the club. Uncomfortable truths and facts that hurt feelings will cause that.
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  377. Unironically, that is exactly what we are being nudged toward. Might explain all the police abolition activism and complaints about the slow pace of police investigation and due process as of late.
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  378. We're not far away from a solution to loneliness and demographic issues being the mandation of single men to find a partner in the same way the unemployed are expected to find work.
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  379. 15:52 - Dating apps are pretty much now and have been for a number of years, the only game in town for meeting new people without any potential social ramifications though I am starting to see women going to gyms (and hardware stores) to find high status, physically attractive men. But what you haven't taken into account is hypergamy. Women date across and up in terms of attractiveness and social status. That is antithetical to settling or as it colloquially known online, "beta bucks". Recent data from Pew Research suggests that women are increasingly refusing to settle. Something I have noted myself in recent times, rather they would engage in polygamy with a high status male, have a child alone, adopt a pet or even engage in a same-sex relationship rather than date a man beneath them since we now also know from ONS and other data that young women outearn their male peers before they have a child thanks to affirmative action. The men telling other men to wait until their thirties before finding someone are leading men down a path of failure. The concept of men peaking their value and status by their mid to late thirties does not bear out for most men who lack experience and haven't been pre-selected by either many women in casual relationships or one woman in a long term relationship and most women are now higher in earnings and status than them. Anyone who says that women are happily settling in their thirties and beyond have not been paying attention for the last few years.
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  380.  @elLooto  That's the state of things now and if anyone attempts to change the dynamic of it, such as Bumble where women make the first move, there is resistance. All the current dating market is now is a reflection of how people find a partner naturally. It's brutal, cruel and unequal.
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  381. I stopped listening to LBC on principle when they removed Maajid Nawaz for committing the heinous crime of having a mind of his own and being critical of and out of step with the official Government narrative on lockdown and masks.
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  382. Rely on Twitter exclusively for news and information? What happens if you get banned and the privacy driven front ends get shut down because you need a login and verification to view anything? Sounds like an excellent way to disenfranchise anyone Twitter doesn't like and disengage them from society. Just like what the banks are doing with people not aligned with their politics.
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  383.  @SA-rb5xq  That's not what the powers will be exclusively used for. And we all know it.
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  384.  @LordDaveKoresh  No-one is telling people not to start a family. The problem is when your achievements in life are reduced to your ability to have children. What about those who can't have children because they are infertile or simply too unattractive for anyone? Many childless brilliant minds have contributed to society and humanity far beyond their genetic legacy. Dismissing those achievements because they did not have children is reductionist.
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  385. Bed count also applies to men. The people writing this article would belittle, smear and denounce the grown man whose number is less than one beyond a specified time period.
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  386.  @megadesu69  If its anything like in Switzerland and Finland, UBI was both outright rejected by the electorate and rejected by the state as a credible and viable solution. So we go back to the original question, what does society do?
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  387. What about people who can't have children, because they're infertile or they can't find a partner because of factors outside of their control (because it is impossible for 100% of people to have offspring)?
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  388. More of a place for increasing numbers of single women to find physically attractive, high status men. As an addition to online dating apps and as a replacement for the other real world establishments people used to go to such as bars and nightclubs since "the event". The same phenomenon is now also happening at hardware stores.
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  389. There is a pro-relationship, anti-single (male) movement that is growing against pornography, prostitution, sex robots and masturbation in society that is cross-partisan. The problem is what we are going to do with all the men who have no hope of finding a relationship, men who are reliant on the likes of OnlyFans and men who have life-long consequences from consumption of this content because there is no other alternative? The answer won't be simply to tell men to "just lift bro" or "just real life bro" because there are significant issues and concrete roadblocks that just giving simple, populist soundbytes won't work.
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  390. The death penalty means you no longer have to bear the consequences of your actions on your conscience for the rest of your life. It is the easy way out from acknowledging what you have done.
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  391. Watch as the leadership contest fortifies Jeremy Hunt as the new Prime Minister. With no General Election being called, naturally.
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  392. ​ @awakeandwatching953  They can also force VPN's who provide service to UK citizens to censor as well, if Labour fail to get VPN's outlawed before the bill becomes law. If VPN's refuse to do so, ISP's will be legally required to block their traffic and payment processors will have to suspending processing payments to the VPN from UK residents. And the ISP's and the payment processors are not going to refuse to comply.
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  393. I see it on both sides. The left state that words have consequences and the right dismiss being cancelled as failing to uphold a "contractual obligation" - paraphrasing an argument on TalkTV this morning. The left protest when someone they support faces consequences and the right protest if someone they support is deemed to violate a "contractual obligation" - example of the latter was Toby Young's PayPal accounts being closed before the backlash and u-turn. Don't recall the right dismissing Young's cancellation as a mere failure to adhere to a "contractual obligation" of PayPal?
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  394. Data just dropped from Pew Research Center and working out the figures, while 30% of people report using online dating, last year after societies opened up, that dropped to just 9%. That's 9, not a typo, not 19 or 29. 9. Which means that 91% of single people are not on a single online dating app or site. So what is informing the general consensus online?
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  395. A reminder of their legal obligations under the Equality Act might change their mind on barring unmasked people from their business. Otherwise, boycott. Money is the language that gets them to listen.
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  396. We aspire to Instagram influencers and Love Island contestants as the standard our potential partners should be while treat online dating as a form of commerce. The thing is, humans are not perfect like mass manufactured products - we have flaws, experiences and insecurities and only a very small percentage of the population can ever match the expectations set by social media influencers and TV programmes.
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  397. There will be a new philosophy around this movie - The Ken Pill.
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  398. If you don't have your life sorted out by your mid-30's as a man, if you're not independent, have a good career and well paid job, have life and relationship experience, have a stable, secure environment to raise a family, a good social circle and so forth, you'll find your clock has run out as well. Men should be getting their lives together in their 20's or risk eternal singledom going forward as hypergamy also pays men a lesson in that facts don't care about your feelings as a man either.
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  399. Netflix is teaching boys (a specific group of them anyway) to hate themselves, the political elite who believe Adolescence is a "documentary" wants to scapegoat a certain demographic of said boys (and men) - asocial, autistic and unattractive men who are failing in the dating market whom will face the consequences of forthcoming legisation and crackdown on "extremism". They want to teach society to hate said group for the current two minutes hate.
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  400. Attractive man is staring at me = cute and adorable Attractive man isn't staring at me = I need to try harder to get his attention Unattractive man is staring at me = creepy and criminal Unattractive man isn't staring at me = his presence creeps me out and gives me the "ick"
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  401. The rest of the world bar a few exceptions (Canada and Australia as two examples) has left this ideology behind, if they ever adopted it at all. Europe faces this decade becoming isolated and a number of countries becoming pariah countries a la North Korea if they keep on their current trajectory.
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  402. If people don't have the free choice of what to do with their lives and their body, then people are not afforded bodily autonomy and your body and life becomes property of the state. At which point it's open season for mandatory vaccination, the nanny state and organ donation without opt-out. There does need to be safeguards to ensure we don't have Canadian style abuse.
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  403. That's the point. To make people so fearful of their data being hacked and put on a public searchable "perverts database" that people will stop using such sites. VPN's and the dark web will also be targeted by new forthcoming laws so the option to circumvent will also end.
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  404. The Government and the media are really pushing the "loner" aspect because I suspect they are preparing for both an outgroup and new laws against said outgroup. There also seems to be looking toward single men in specific terms.
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  405. Careful now, the Government may consider that "disruptive speech". Not a joke by the way.
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  406. The only way to do that is to abolish due process. And would we want that in these times with the likes of MeToo?
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  407. Mid 60's you say? What else happened as in, was introduced as a game changer for reproduction? In the 1960s, something happened. Biology. Culture. Ideology.
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  408. I remember when the analysis of each years analytics were done on the channel of a teal coloured deer.
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  409. People are being arrested for advocating republicanism because the concept is offensive now and will be offensive in six months time, a years time, two years time and so forth. Aside from one example, no-one celebrated her death, they merely criticised the concept of monarchy. That was enough to cause offence and be arrested. Thanks to public order, communication and anti-protest laws now on the books, you can be arrested for being a republican if someone finds gross offence in that idea. It's how ideas and debate gets shut down, verboten, banned. And we've seen it before.
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  410. I get the impression that Connor would celebrate if all single people suddenly disappeared from society and everyone was in a relationship? To the point where it would require mass social shaming, debanking, ostracisation and even legislation?
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  411. My worry is that the alternative is worse. Pro lockdown, pro mandate and pro remain.
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  412. How would you make private schooling affordable to the working classes? Homeschooling requires someone to stay at home to teach the child and most couples can't afford to have only one wage earner. Plus, you have the problem of the child not mixing, socialising with their peers and developing critical communication skills. As for private schooling, how would people afford the fees? The amount someone would need would be crushing for most families and if a student loan style system was implemented, we'd laden young adults with crippling debt before they have started work. Charities are not a bottomless pit of cash that can give free schooling for all. In terms of the YouTube is free argument, there were people furious with the concept of children being taught by TV because they believed they should be in school!
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  413.  @danielseelye6005  Personally I can see a desire by pro-life supporters to push further for the restoration of family values pre-1960s and the birth control pill. We will see in time how far they do go. But the time of middle-ground and compromise is over.
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  414. Banning certain genres of music because you deem it to be corrupting of society is not a good look and YouTube deletes comments (including the critique I posted earlier).
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  415. Hold that thought... there is a proposal for the UK to adopt the same policy in a forthcoming obesity reduction strategy. Will also be applied to welfare recipients. So in effect, unless you opt out of society, it will be a fat ban.
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  416. The tent, the shop doorway or the prison cell.
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  417. We also need to do something about "lost men" too. The likes of Tate, subscription services for saucy media, the "manosphere", pick-up artists, the financial model of dating apps and the like are all symptoms and no-one seems to want to tackle the root causes.
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  418. Shops and supermarkets are now getting to the point where they are implementing expensive security methods to protect their products and goods from being stolen. If we carry on this trajectory with increasing thefts and ineffectiveness to deal with thieves, the cost of security measures will be so high that we'll end up with said establishments closing themselves to the public and going down the click and collect route for everyone, akin to how Argos, Screwfix and Toolstation operate. Either than or they all close down.
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  419. Whereas for men, finding a good woman who won't instantly take a dislike and reject them is like trying to find something to watch on Netflix after they've filed for bankruptcy and shut down operations.
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  420. They're not just planning to freeze granny. They're also planning to make living independently impossible for single people. Guess who's going to be let their houses?
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  421. If you think things are bad now, wait until Government reconvenes in September. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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  422. Tate is a symptom of a much bigger problem. The solution is not to fill the void by selling the false hope of a "soulmate" if you simply "do better". Worse still, telling young men to simply abandon dating and relationships until their thirties and focusing entirely on earning and lifting weights will not end well for anyone who is seeking a relationship from their thirties onwards. Women have a biological clock informed by fertility, men have an experience clock informed by pre-selection. We also can not ignore the uncomfortable truths around attractiveness and that not every man will succeed in finding a partner and starting a family.
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  423. It will be days before social distancing and queuing comes back from what I understand. Remember when you had to queue outside a supermarket back in Spring 2020? Could be legally mandated in less than a week.
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  424. "Our New China-Owned Chancellor" is a funny way of saying "Our New China-Owned De-Facto Prime Minister".
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  425.  @PutkisenSetä  I don't think anyone is arguing for no hospitals or schools, they're arguing for pay-as-you-go hospitals and schools - 100% funded by the user as opposed to fully or partially funded by the state, employer, insurer, charity or crowdfunder.
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  426. You missed one name from the ISD Global funding list. Ofcom. Who regulates the BBC?
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  427. I can see you now but like you, I also have had comments shadowbanned.
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  428. I suspect this is why people are looking toward what happens to Griswold and whether conservatives will push forth with a personal responsibility, family values attitude to society where birth control and sexual liberation moves aside for abstinence and adoption.
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  429. Who predominately pays for the transmitters the broadcast the commercial channels? No BBC, no commercial broadcasting. That ends the abolition of free-to-air broadcasting. No TalkTV or GB News because they can't afford to take up the tab for millions. Advocate for BBC abolition if you must but it will have consequences beyond the BBC.
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  430. The same Channel 4 who used Eric Gill's font in its early days of broadcasting?
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  431. Not helped by everyone treating housing as an investment that can only ever go up and if prices do go down, Government will be voted out in a landslide so they do everything to stop that happening. Of course without a house to raise a family, people don't have them. And that's before we get to the growing problem of loneliness and people not finding partners.
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  432. Employers are not compelled to offer anyone a paid job and you can't compete with an AI, robot or computer that can work up to 24 hours a day, every day. Doesn't need a wage other than the electricity/maintenance costs which will be far lower than your wage now, pensions, holiday, insurance, sick leave, rest, toilet breaks and so forth. They'll come for the trades as well as local firms get undercut by national/international conglomerates who will automate. It's already happening. The question for society is how do we run an economy when everything is automated?
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  433. If you understand feminist literature and media as a honest appraisal of men, if you are unattractive, socially awkward, not high in social status or not in a minority group, you should be very concerned at what's coming. We could be on the cusp of having men arrested for inalienable (genetic) characteristics under the guise of misogyny to protect women and girls. In terms of what is deem misogynistic and creates the feeling of terror, commentators on TV and the radio suggested it is unrequited attraction, unwanted attention and unwanted communication from unattractive, socially awkward and low status men.
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  434. Brazil is the test ground to see if Governments can get away with banning X and VPN's. If they get away with it, other countries, including the UK, will follow. And not just stop there.
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  435. I don't agree with the concept that men are the gatekeepers of relationships. Because I am noticing that women in their thirties and higher are exiting the dating market if no men are of a level they expect. They will rather have a child alone, adopt a pet or even have a same-sex relationship as I have started to notice. If men were the gatekeepers to relationships, I would expect single women to compromise. Reality suggests they are not.
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  436. Spoiler alert - it usually goes three ways - they find their "bad boy", they settle down and start a family, they seek another "bad boy" as a single women for the "tingles" or remain partnerless for the rest of their lives.
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  437. Public: "We demand the Government deal with the obesity crisis". Government: "We agree. We will mandate you go to the gym, place calorie caps on what you eat, make employers and the DWP do health checks on all and so forth". What now, members of the public?
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  438. Everyone will have to verify their identity to prove they are not a bot or troll. That verification will cost $8 a month.
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  439.  @predcon1  Except I have the testimonies of hundreds of commentators at least to inform my observation. So either we shall have to agree to disagree or do as I advised earlier as per the ToS.
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  440.  @spocko2181  In long term relationships or very quickly off the dating market if she ends up single for whatever reason.
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  441. Same with getting to know and ask women out in real life - who wants to risk the accusation of sexual harassment and get cancelled? That's why everyone is heading to Tinder for dating, it's the one place where no-one has been cancelled for being rejected.
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  442.  @ZMCFERON  The only other option is to abolish it. You can't fast track due process.
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  443. Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. If you have to ask women for advice about dating, then you've already proven that you're low status, not fit to be dateable and will subsequently be given bad advice to protect the gene pool.
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  444.  @JamesCandy-d3o  It's starting to sound more authoritarian by the day. The countries that ban genres of music because they are deemed to corrupt the population also have an authoritarian streak.
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  445. I feel uncomfortable with the concept that people outside the employer/employee relationship should be able to dictate the working practices, conditions and pay of other people to request that they should be dropped to their level. I saw the same rhetoric when it came to the train strikes and as someone who values the idea that a contract between two people should remain so, the demands for pay cuts and changing the way that companies work sits uneasy with me. Critique? Yes, demand? No. Also, what happened to people bettering their lot in life instead of dragging others down for their own satisfaction? If people do not like what LinkedIn or Google is doing, don't use LinkedIn or Google (YouTube too). Let the market decide.
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  446. The danger of the solution to make food a luxury to pay a fair price for farmers is that if you price people out of food, you will have criminality and then revolution. Contrary to popular opinion, consumers do not have infinite magic money trees.
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  447. Andrew Malkinson is one of the reasons why we don't have the death penalty. A man who would have faced that penalty if it was imposed today but suffered a grotesque miscarriage of justice. It's not a deterrent either - you deter criminals by both crime prevention and a well funded, human police force. You may think the state will only deliver it for the most heinous crimes but eventually it will expand to lesser crimes. A certain man from Telford would be in the sights if it came back. I would not be comfortable with giving the state the power to decide who lives and who doesn't.
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  448. Rent free in their heads. Forever. Alongside the hard left who still use it as their bogeyman for everything they deem wrong in the world.
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  449. The way things are going with Governments and the direction they want to go, you soon won't have a choice.
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  450. If anything, men who complain they are lonely are demonised, labelled radicalised and misogynistic by the media plus they are stigmatised and ostracised by society.
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  451. I worry that we have just seen a worrying precedence being set, despite what you think of Jones and what he said initially (that I do not agree with). And I say that from the rhetoric from those who sued Jones and the judge. They want this going forward to ruin anyone who is deemed to have "lied", spread a "hoax" or "misinformation". Now who gets to define what is a "lie". Or a "hoax". Or "misinformation". Or a "conspiracy theory"? The individual? Collectives? Fact checkers? Large corporations? The state? And if you are deemed to spread any of those things, off to court you go to face financial ruin. After all, we just had the redefinition of both "recession" and "definition" and now it is open season for anyone who claims the US is in recession to be sued. Jones is the person who everyone will say just deserved and good riddance while those with vested interests will now start legal action against other commentators and journalists.
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  452. Dorries has got it wrong regarding the country that runs the satellite that broadcast Russia Today into the UK, also used by Freeview - it's a Luxembourg company, not a French one. I do find Dorries' rhetoric disturbing in the realm that she is calling for media outlets (not just RT) who are broadcasting what she determines to be "propaganda" to be removed from the airwaves and the Internet. So instead of countering what Russia is doing by closing critical media outlets such as TV Rain and Echo of Moscow, we are copying them, creating our own Roskomnadzor dependant on what Dorries finds offensive. This won't end with RT.
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  453. 2023: "Learn to code" 2024: Sorry, you're jobless now and all the jobs have been replaced by AI/machines.
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  454. I take it that countries with the death penalty have zero murder rates?
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  455. Already talk of 55p per kWh when I was paying just over 10p per kWh for electric a year ago. And for gas, 25p per kWh when it's currently 4p per kWh. Never mind a £3,000 cap, it could easily be £5,000 by October or earlier if Ofgem enacts exceptional circumstance clause to increase the cap earlier. 20-50p on many food and drink items before this spike which adds up to tens of pounds on a weekly food bill. Rent up, bus fares up, petrol up, broadband considerably up, mobile phone contracts up, council tax up and this is before the NI increase. Meanwhile you can bet your wages will be frozen, hours cut, jobs lost, automation and outsourcing takes over. This is going to be grim. Meanwhile we're told this is the price of freedom by those who can easily afford these increases. The Government needs to take emergency measures now.
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  456. Government tends to clamp down hard and punish harshly for crimes against corporations (for example, piracy against media outlets) and crimes against authority. Come September when Government reconvenes, I am very concerned about what is coming in response. Namely the ending of civil liberties, freedom of expression and user generated content online.
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  457. An observation I have noticed is more women going to the gym to find a partner.
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  458. If you think things are bad on social media, seek experiences from people who use online dating. It's even worse, if you can believe it. And nowadays this is the only safe way to find a partner.
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  459. Amendment NC3 of the Crime and Policing Bill says otherwise. If that passes, and it has a lot of support from MPs, a lot of sexual behaviour will be banned. The Online Safety Act will effectively ban it by proxy via ID/age verification by July 25th. One of the side effects of that verification is that it also applies to all websites accessible in the UK by someone physically located in the UK, whether by ISP or VPN regardless of the country it is set to (in the same manner as gambling sites/apps). Ironically, the Lotuseaters website will have to implement age verification as it is not deemed "safe for kids".
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  460. "Psychological harm" will refer to any negative feeling created by anything deemed offensive, upsetting, uncomfortable or critical. "Knowingly false information" will refer to anything in contradiction to the Government, the Royal Family, celebrities, scientists who follow "the science", the mainstream media and fact-checkers. "Pile-ons" will include content creators who criticise someone and their viewers and subscribers then message the "victim". Expect comment sections to disappear from UK websites. Web hosts will be wary of providing service to UK residents in case anything they host falls foul of the law. Only the largest tech firms will have comment sections and they will be moderated excessively, whether by human or algorithm. Don't be surprised if YouTube updates its terms and conditions for UK content creators to make them legally liable for anything said by a commentator to anyone, including off-site, from a video they upload which call fall foul of what is defined as "pile-ons". How long before commenting on a video becomes a perk for Lotuseaters Premium subscribers?
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  461. Authoritarian regimes like to ban genres of music that they deem to corrupt the populous. Lotus Eaters, take note.
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  462. The not insignificant numbers of people who tell YouGov that they think restrictions are right, if not too lax and want them permanently, frighten me. That there are people who welcome the idea of everyone being controlled, put under surveillance and giving the state unprecedented and total powers.
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  463. By that logic, do you believe PayPal was completely in the right to initially (before the backlash and u-turn) cancel Toby Young and prevent payments being processed for the Free Speech Union? "Contractual obligation" is the right wing "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences".
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  464.  @TheMonk72  What you are advocating for is the complete and total control of someone's private life, separate from their work life, by employers and service providers. And then deem it justifiable because the state isn't doing it? That sounds like an excellent way for a state to outsource censorship by proxy to private companies and organisations. It's the "but muh private company" argument the left always uses to justify censorship by proxy, just replaced with "but muh contractual obligation". When you agree to a service through a legally binding contract, you agree to abide by all ToS. The problem comes when that ToS violates someone's freedom of expression in a private life, as happened to Carl Benjamin and Patreon.
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  465.  @TheMonk72  You're are the epitome of what I say when I warn that both sides can be just as bad as each other in justifying non-state censorship because they don't like what they say. And then actively decide to insult me in the hope that I will be censored because I dare to say something you disagree with. If you report my posts and they all disappear, thank you for proving my point succinctly.
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  466.  @TheMonk72  A lot of this is whiffing of projection. But not in the way that you think. You do know that disagreeing with someone is a valid reason to report someone on YouTube for ToS violation, don't you?
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  467.  @TheMonk72  I would love to reply further but I have a job to do. To contribute to society and earn my way in life. The sort of thing you'd expect from a poisonous, angry and evil little man. Right?
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  468. I can imagine the Mayor of New York and other leaders are watching current events in Xi'an City with interest and a desire to implement them in the near future as a way to deal with Omicron.
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  469. This is what happens when you are deemed a burden to the state and a net debtor to society. When we minimise human beings into a profit/loss figure. The private sector does this too by pricing you out of the market.
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  470. The sanctions against Russia by western countries have worked exactly as intended.
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  471. @ArgentWolf95 The latest attempt goes by a different tack. It's more akin to what we've already seen in the aforementioned US states. The ones that had the websites block access to said states, effectively a ban.
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  472. You'd have to get rid of both as well as all other forms of contraception, the only compromise being a prohibition of contraception and birth control being sold to people who do not have an established partner.
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  473. In a similar vein to Tate and the presumed audience of his, you may wish to cover the Hollyoaks hour long special (or propaganda if you're feeling uncharitable) that aired tonight on Channel 4.
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  474. They're going to try banning all vapes. They seem to be on a campaign to ban vices (bar alcohol, obviously) with the Labour Party in full support.
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  475. The problem with the "just improve bro" advice that is given by commentators is that the bar is now so high that a lot of men can not achieve what is expected of them. Simply going to the gym, having a good salary, owning your home is still not good enough. Plus the aspects of what get your foot in the door when it comes to dating in the modern age are set before you are even born. You can't lift your way to good genetics or bench-press to a good personality (half of which is inherited and genetic) and you can't stretch yourself to six feet or above. It is a market for the top attractive, high status men and all women who choose to engage in the dating market. For an increasing number of men, the game is rigged. And the only winning move in a rigged game is to not play. The uncomfortable truth is that not every man will succeed in the new dating market we have shifted to, particularly in the last decade where more men have nothing to show other than consistent rejection. No matter how much they lift, earn or status.
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  476. So the United States are asking fuel companies to charge less to consumers alongside a three month gas tax holiday and the UK Government is going to respond to the anger over the train strikes by asking people to collectively engage in discipline and sacrifice of their wages and hours. Both are exploiting a crisis. Both are being sold as a way to frustrate Putin's war effort. Both are theorised to decrease inflation. Both are telling the public to not complain about the decrease in living standards. Both will cause a decrease in tax revenue. Both will fail.
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  477. Men were told to not approach women because that is harassment. Decent men respected their wishes. Now we get told we're cowards if we don't approach women. Decent men get confused. Also, the same commentators support gender equality and strong, independent women but also oppose gender equality and want men to plan and pay for everything.
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  478. It doesn't just apply to simping, it also applies to (online) dating. If you ain't in the top 20% of men when it comes to earnings, social status, independence, life experience and so forth, close your dating accounts and work on yourself. And it should be for yourself, not in the hope you'll meet someone. Sadly, a good number of middle aged men and older will learn this too late (because unless you're famous or rich, it ain't happening with a woman if you want your own children) and will end up alone. I just hope young men and teenagers who still have time can take heed.
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  479. The Government wants to "protect the NHS". But at what cost? The end of our freedoms, our free will and our ability to choose as a law-abiding adult?
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  480. We have politicians and commentators saying we are at war. With who? If it were Putin, that would be seen as a declaration of war and a massive escalation. So if not him, who? The general public who dare use energy for heat and light? Small and medium size enterprises employing people and contributing to the economy? I've heard of predictions of over £7,000 bills for consumers for April 2023, a figure that was considered hyperbolic and unrealistic only a few weeks ago - and the predictions just keep rising - above £1 per kWh. It won't be long before we see the first £10,000 price cap prediction. The price cap is delaying the inevitable that is reality now for businesses. We're not at inflation busting water bills after the drought and sewage scandals, high interest rates, escalating rents, above inflation broadband and telecom bills, soaring public transport fares, massive food price rises, three or four day weeks, closure of national infrastructure such as the terrestrial broadcasting and communication networks and other consequences yet. And if we have a cold winter, all bets are off. Meanwhile Putin burns gas near the Finnish border to mock and belittle us while his citizens see inflation in Russia peak and decline. When Richard Tice who supports free market capitalism is suggesting force majeure and capping prices, it's serious. This is a cost of lockdown, cost of green and cost of Ukraine. Lack of backbone against authoritarians, lack of investment in vital infrastructure and a desire to virtue signal even if means destroying the living standards of their citizens. It makes me sick.
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  481.  @CNotez-uo8kp  Technically it does because the Government and the media has been happily promoting that the perpetrator is an incel so they can generate a moral panic.
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  482. We've crossed the rubicon. People on the right have had enough and want more well beyond cancel culture and I've seen evidence of not YouTube ToS friendly actions being called for against individuals and the left on social media, discussion forums and cartoon strips. There's no going back from this. I know commentators on YouTube and TV have to temper their language to stay within ToS/Ofcom rules/FCC regulations but privately, they're all thinking the same.
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  483. Thankfully we don't arrest people for having dissenting opinions (until now, several have been arrested this weekend for advocating for republicanism). That sounds like something we'd expect in China. Or Russia. Or North Korea.
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  484. Not sure about that. Involuntary celibates have always been a small proportion of society, it's just that they didn't have any online communication in the past and kept themselves to themselves, likely to be eccentric, not pre-selected and live alone where they talked to no-one and no-one acknowledged their existence beyond paying the bills.
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  485. The Government seems intent on outgrouping single men who can't find a partner as a threat to society. And the demand for age verification for Amazon is nothing new. Every website not "safe for kids" will need to do a children's risk assessment and implement age verification as part of the Online Safety Act that was passed by the Tories. Starmer has done nothing but to promote something that is going to happen anyway to be seen as doing something.
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  486. Would it be right to sum up the whole point of this video that singledom is the cause of all the societal ills and it is that which must be eradicated from modern society? Because it appears to be that is the consistent variable in everything discussed.
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  487. A lot of the dating advice and assumptions about the dating market online seem to focus on a minority and in particular, two groups - the promiscuous 10% and the never succeeding 10%(-ish). The other 80% who have one, maybe two partners for a small percentage of that in a year, are not figuring in the online commentatory about the dating market - probably because the focus of such content is at the latter. Most people meet in real life through closed social groups of friends, friends of friends or people they know, only a fifth of people find a partner online (which makes sense for online dating as it is, by design, monetising loneliness and minimises the potential for people to find a long term relationship)
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  488.  @DamnedDave  I never said that.
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  489.  @DamnedDave  Still not what I said. The material I have seen requests tenants do both - ventilation and heating.
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  490. They'll likely ban all aspects of sexuality that isn't done between consenting adults in a private residence without money exchanging hands. Which is a problem if you're single - if symbolic rather than practical unless you have surveillance in every private residence.
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  491. You'll be blocked from accessing websites as said sites have a legal duty to prevent people using VPNs to bypass the law.
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  492. And now as increasing numbers of men are failing in the dating market and have no prospect of a girlfriend, they're now taking away every avenue and outlet for those men. At that point they will feel as if they have nothing left to lose.
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  493. Twitter is moving to Pay to Win. It will soon become Pay to Play and everything will be behind a paywall.
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  494. I warned about the consequences of this happening - nothing that should violate ToS, no mention of race, no calls to or condoning of violence or so forth - and my comment was deleted (probably not by the Lotuseaters).
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  495. We know from leaked documents in Scotland that if the NHS is replaced, it will NOT be the American or European/Australian model that talk radio jocks like to gloat about. We will have a private dentist style pay-as-you-go system where you pay up front in full for your diagnosis and treatment and if you can afford the insurance, you claim the money back after treatment from your insurer. Come to peace with reality, we are NOT adopting a French, German, Australian, American or similar system. Government will not pay in, employers will not pay in either and credit via credit card, loan or crowdfunding will not be allowed as a form of payment.
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  496. I dislike the concept of people being arrested and censored for causing offence. We've seen that elsewhere and how it can both upturn and destroy lives at least. And now I suspect avocation for republicanism is now one of those ideas that is verboten in the United Kingdom and will get you targeted by mobs and the police. If you wait six months, a year, two years, it will still be as offensive and demanding of censorship and criminalisation. This will be the acid test for free speech advocates.
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  497. Would you also support minor crimes be treated in the same manner?
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  498. This is being done to set precedents which will apply well beyond the Internet Archive. They want to shut down physical libraries, ban renting, ban second hand sales, ban archiving of web pages and demand permanent copyright and patents so they can control all media, ideas, knowledge and information, engage in metaphorical book burning and put everything behind expensive paywalls in the same manner as scientific studies where they can generate unlimited royalties for perpetuity.
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  499. Accountability is Kryptonite to them.
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  500. I wonder if anyone has actively ripped out their insulation or turned to dirty fuel as a result of their "protests"?
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  501. In before the demand for pay as you go healthcare. Which is pay up front in full or you don't get healthcare. No charity. No subsidy. No crowdfunding. As the public will not want to adopt an insurance system like in America and anything less will be deemed socialist.
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  502. May be the case for the current generation but as future generations who grew up with technology become comfortable with robots, machine and computers, plus the cost of using an automated service becomes cheaper than using a human, even the skilled, human oriented jobs will disappear bar the sole-trader ones. Ultimately, everyone will have to become a business owner.
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  503.  @graye2799  Companies and businesses won't care. They don't have a duty to employ people and a job is a privilege, not a right. The problem of how people get the money to live becomes someone else's problem, not theirs.
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  504.  @graye2799  And that's when companies will move production and investment to countries with a more laiseez-faire attitude to automation.
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  505. You are correct in raising the point of how a robot, machine or computer can work twenty four hours a day. No human can. We can't compete. And that's before we get to wages, pensions, sick pay, holiday, health insurance, toilet breaks, rest periods, sleep, maternity/paternity leave, strikes, workers rights and I could go on. Automation is inevitable. Ban or restrict it and other countries will take the investment, business and revenue. The question will be how do we deal with all the unemployable individuals?
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  506. So we get a minimum £400 bribe on top of the £150 some households got. That won't touch the sides of the losses we will face as energy companies pull their future investments out of the country, move to more friendly countries, increase the wholesale price to claw back the money, increase in inflation as everyone gets given free money, the green tax and VAT that will increase as bills continue to grow, bills grow as the supply situation has not been resolved and the future money that will be spent on green energy as opposed to fracking, fossil fuels and nuclear.
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  507. Every man who is single is labelled an incel at this point.
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  508. Masks are not about the virus - based on actual science, they're about control under a mindset of belief and virtue. Masks are implementing a class difference between those who are mandated to wear one and those above you who can exempt themselves. This is why politicians can dictate to you to wear a mask whilst being pictured not wearing one, only putting it on as a show of theatre.
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  509. Problem is that Tinder has successfully conquered the dating market and redefined itself to women as a dating, not a hook-up, app. We have redefined hook-up as dating. People will not meet up in real life until we have opportunities to meet people locally comes back and the danger of being cancelled for a faux-pas or an unwanted approach leading to rejection. The other problem we have is affirmative action and chivalry - young women outearn young men yet men are expected to make all the moves and pay for everything despite now earning less than their female peers. Hypergamy also means your average man is now considered less attractive to the average higher earning woman. Something that getting multiple jobs and spending every waking minute at a gym will not solve.
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  510. ​ @outoforbit00 Anyone can verify what I said by going to the UK Parliament website and looking up the amendments on the legislation page.
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  511. People have advocated in the last few days for the UK to become an absolute monarchy with no protest, no offence, no demands for censorship and no arrests.
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  512.  @spacejunk2186  We just had the CEO of Telegram arrested for behaviour on his platform. Not a stretch to extend that to the lead developer of (free and open source software) operating systems, programs and apps.
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  513. Their logic - "It's fine to house men who identify as women and men with partners as long as we keep out the evil, Tate radicalised SINGLE MENZ!!!" Because single men are not a protected characteristic, sympathised with or given a damn about because they deem a man's worth based on whether he has a partner or attention from women.
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  514. AI and automation will bring a dilemma - employers are not compelled to employ a human - and therefore won't - and we're going to have a large number of people who are unemployable but that also means we have large numbers of people who can't contribute to the economy and spend money while we have major opposition to Universal Basic Income.
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  515. There seems to be a very keen desire to outlaw "speculation". All that jumping to conclusions do is give those in power the justification to bring in more speech laws to give themselves even more power and control. I would not be surprised if a few doors are knocked under "inciting racial hatred" for those who speculated on social media.
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  516. TalkTV this morning: "Free speech for me, contractual obligation for you". Happens both ways.
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  517. Probably more like North Korea or Iran rather than China. "For your safety" of course.
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  518. If you think things are hysterical now, wait until the Republicans win the mid-terms and the Presidential election. If they succeed in making abortion illegal via federal law... Oooo, boy! And then there are conservative commentators with money and lawyers waiting for the other rulings to be overturned and stating that they want to see abortion go the way of slavery. It is no wonder why Tim Pool talks of Civil War 2 and others talk of a great divorce.
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  519. Do not comply. Calmly inform and reassure others to be brave and not comply. If refused access for not wearing a mask, politely but firmly say "I'm exempt" and walk on to do your legal business. If refused again, leave and crowdfund a legal case against them for discrimination - hit them where it hurts - in the pocket and on social media. If you are fined, do not pay the fine and demand your day in court. The fine will not be upheld. Write a letter to your MP, remain polite but firm in your correspondence. Do not abuse, insult or assault - this will provide ammunition to the mask activists. Compliance will only result in the Government assuming your automatic consent to any future upgrading of mandates, loss of freedoms and abolition of your autonomy.
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  520. The question, how far do right wing people want to go? Looking at what right wing commentators are saying (bearing in mind they have to be careful of website ToS), comments on social media and forums, they're now demanding far more than just left wingers being cancelled.
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  521. Worse still, men desperate for help in finding a partner are now paying real money. Yet the program is designed to fail in order to scald you and up-sell you a higher priced program. And so the vicious circle continues.
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  522. Men should earn through long hour, high pay employment while she spend the majority of your paycheck, you must pay for the dates in respectable restaurants while she gets free dinners, do all the chores while she gets pampered and tended to, be independent by owning their own family home that she will get in a divorce, drive a car they want to be seen in because it is a status symbol, be six foot or preferably taller while you are not allowed to have preferences and work out to have a six pack while I must be loved for who I am. No wonder why men have noped out of modern day dating. The women who don't have these long list of expectations are either in long term relationships or so rare, they may as well live in Unicorn Land.
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  523. The problem is, and why there is a market for this, is that no women will give men using these apps a chance.
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  524. "The same arguments can be applied to telecommunication" That's the point. "The same arguments can be applied to freedom of assembly" That's the point.
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  525. Lamppost posters have been going up in Bristol warning men that unwanted attention, flirting or asking a woman out is harassment. An increasing number of men won't even get to the getting laid part before they commit an offence worthy of a custodial sentence - merely swiping right will be enough soon.
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  526. And now people expect protection from unwanted advances and communication from unattractive men.
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  527. Going to be a difficult sell on here. The commentators on here don't see overweight people as people. The same people who protested against mandatory vaccination would be more than happy to enforce mandatory gym memberships on everyone.
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  528. The only way to resolve this is to stop feeding the beast like Computing Forever did and leave the platform. Yes, it will be painful and your engagement will go down but if every political content creator did it and went to a rival, you would no longer be feeding the beast. Maybe do like a lot of documentary content creators have done and move all content to a centralised platform they control and downgrade the political YouTube channels to clips showing a preview of what you have on that uploaded to encourage people to move to the new platform. I can't see how anything will improve whilst everyone carries on as normal here.
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  529. If you view social media, commentators outside of YouTube/TV (due to regulations/ToS) and forums, they think cancel culture is nowhere near enough. That's the danger and the left will take note and react.
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  530. But what I am seeing online suggests those on the right don't want to just stick to those tactics.
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  531. If that spreads to UK legislation, they may as well turn the Houses of Parliament into HMP Westminster.
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  532.  @umiluv  How do you lift to good genetics? How does a gym get you to be above six foot? Same applies to Peterson. Everyone has a ceiling and some people have a lower ceiling than others. Improvements only do so much but the likes of self-help gurus online, Peterson and advocates of the gym fail to acknowledge is that there will be men who will never reach even the top fifty percent of men whom ninety-five percent of women are chasing on the dating market. We reach a situation where positivity turns into delusion. There are winners and losers in life, it's why society doesn't expect everyone to be a CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation. The uncomfortable truth for people to hear is that there will be people who already lost before they were born.
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  533. Shame does exist for men. Go on social media, admit you are a man who can't get a girlfriend and ensure that post goes viral so you get a wide range of replies. And then see the replies you get. They will not be complementary, understanding and sympathetic.
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  534. How did we get from not having a partner as a man to radicalised by the Romanian Bad Man extremist threat to society and the state ideological bachelorism? A narrative and an agenda is being cooked up to finally deal with the "unpartnered male problem".
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  535. Only been this week when the Government owned itself by publishing a report that showed that the numbers of absences between schools that mandated masks and those that did not was statistically insignificant. The truth has a habit of eventually emerging. And AOC knows it, as she demonstrated in Florida.
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  536. From what I understand, it'll apply to all employment, welfare and being able to start a business. Effectively you'll be unable to function in society if you refuse. And that's only after you've been sent to prison or even have citizenship stripped from you. Also, the proposal also intends to punish the parents of the dissenter.
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  537. The buzz word of the moment is "disruptive". Disruption is defined as the deviation or change from the status-quo, norm or majority and is the kingpin of the newly enacted Public Order Act. Which has far more reach compared to hate, harassment and offence. This can also include ideas, (non-)beliefs, speech and opinions, not just behaviours such as (peaceful) protests, strikes and street preachers. Debating the concept of a republic is "disruptive". Atheism is "disruptive". Criticising the Government is "disruptive". The silent majority have got so fed up with the concept of tolerance that they are going to the other extreme of zero tolerance. They want to be "left alone in peace" as long as they toe the line. We have people now actively suggesting that not suppressing all dissent and opposition is anti-democratic while most people are criticising Lee Anderson MP, not for him suggesting that those critical of the monarchy emigrate, but for not going much further - enacting a new law requiring every British citizen to affirm their lives to both religion and monarchy or be stripped of their citizenship and expelled from the country. Most people have had enough and the Coronation has allowed the pot to boil over. I have also noted that Labour and the opposition, the mainstream media and even independent anti-establishment publications are now getting in-line with Government for the last few years in the hope they will be left in peace too. Disruption is the new hate.
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  538. The danger is that this tragedy is used to push an political agenda. Already the term "incel" and video games have been raised by news organisations as they can't pin this on the right wing.
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  539. Governments have also figured out that it is more financially lucrative to make people go to the gym and eat healthily because it ultimately brings in more tax income from multiple avenues, profits for pharmaceutical industries into your old age and keeps people in work for longer compared to an early grave and zero income. In the same way as they treat unemployment. Problem, reaction, solution. This is why we are starting to hear talk of an "obesity strategy".
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  540. @oswulf3142 Or The Hague.
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  541. They're creating an outgroup to scapegoat for both Government failure and to make the Government look like they're doing something against a group who no-one will defend - asocial, autistic and unattractive men who are failing in the dating market as "lone individuals" who are a threat to national security and therefore must be removed from society to protect women and girls. We are currently in a moral panic.
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  542. Or 'meritocratic'.
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  543.  @evolassunglasses4673  And then what do you do with the millions of unemployable people left?
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  544. I worry regarding the rhetoric I heard from the House of Commons today that this tragedy will be used to justify draconian measures against free speech to curb unwanted behaviour such as unsolicited messages, trolling and legitimate criticism which constitute harassment, abuse, threats and extremism which leads to violence. There's already demands to curtail disagreement to promote unity and respect as well as a major upgrading of the Online Harms Bill. Very concerning to hear this afternoon. Expect a social media and YouTube adpocalypse/purge, the rhetoric was very threatening to the big tech firms and they will knee jerk. Irrational anger and a desire for revenge will bring forth bad law.
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  545. ​ @unholylemonpledge9730  Unattractive is not given in terms of physical looks when people refer to the term "ugly". What they mean are men who are found to be unattractive by another woman. Like the one who Proudman took offence to.
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  546. It won't end with Tate. To figure out who the target of the campaigns groups are, look at who is Tate's audience. That's what they want to ban from the Internet and society. Tate, like Alex Jones, is the poster boy for the campaign to cancel a community to get the public on side.
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  547. Looking forward to another YouTube adpocalypse and purge in reaction to threats made to tech firms today by MPs.
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  548. Meanwhile YouTube delete or shadowban the vast majority of my civil, relevant comments in seconds. Utter joke.
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  549. I think the double standards regarding the free speech arguments in this case from those who could be classed as right wing could easily be summed up in one phrase: "free speech for me, contractual obligations for thee".
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  550. The opening line will ring true for our MP in Bassetlaw because he did that very thing yesterday, naturally stirring up the ire of the usual suspects.
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  551. Everyone should lose their anonymity online, eh Carl? Go ask Coach Red Pill after the Daily Beast hit piece on him and see how losing his anonymity worked out for him. Oh wait...
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  552.  @FraggleH  There's an agenda to target a certain demographic of individuals whom are deemed to be a threat to women and girls - the asocial, autistic and unattractive men in society who are failing in the dating market. The "lone individuals" whom the Prime Minister declares a threat to national security post Southport.
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  553. There's already been implementations of robotics and AI for diagnosis and treatment of patients done by skilled surgeons and consultants who need several years of training before they can work and are paid some of the highest salaries in the market. If you're skilled, you can and will be replaced by AI and automation.
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  554. It's also Government fuel which will allow them to scapegoat a certain group who no-one will support or defend in order to look tough, distract from their failures and boost their public perception.
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  555. If we are now advocating for the detention and jailing of men who are unattractive giving women unwanted attention and communication (including rejection), then we'd better start building millions of prison places in the UK alone. The vast majority of men on dating apps had better start sweating.
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  556. Just a forewarning, comments are being deleted (probably not by the Lotuseaters to be fair) if you warn the individuals featured in this video that they should not be committing criminal offences.
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  557. I have been utterly disgusted at the way that the mainstream media has engaged in hyperbolic scaremongering. It's as if the media attracts those who are negatively minded and they project that into their reporting. If you watched TV or listened to the radio in the last few days, you'd have come away with thinking the world was ending. One report called the heatwave a "heat apocalypse". Grotesquely irresponsible reporting by the mainstream media.
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  558.  @ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw  Technology has now reached the point where robots are ambidextrous enough to perform such tasks with large corporations interested in implementing robotics for trades, putting all the sole traders out of business by undercutting them and then engaging in platform decay and monopolisation.
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  559. If those who want to do this lock us down again, they will have learnt the mistakes of the first attempt which made lockdown ineffective and will make them permanent by any means necessary. Do not allow this to happen, because if it does, you will have squandered your last chance.
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  560. The ironic thing being, Esther and CONTEST 2023 agree with who they believe the threat of terror is coming from - "single men".
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  561. I have noticed that men's worth is based on both his ability to attract a casual/relationship partner and the respect he gets from women outside of his family circle. Which is why unattractive and low value men get insulted, treated as sub-human and we now have calls for politicians to deal with unwanted communication, unwanted behaviour and "creeps".
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  562. Conspiracy theories at this point should be called "spoiler alerts". I do wonder if conspiracy theorists are aiding and abetting their opponents by giving them ideas!
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  563. Today, Shamima Begone. Tomorrow, Tommy Robingone. The UK Government has the ability via the Home Secretary to strip anyone of their citizenship even if it will make them stateless, despite international law as it considers citizenship a privilege and not a right. What is done to the likes of terrorists today will be done to the "far-right" tomorrow. Careful what you wish for, we know in the past that such loopholes and powers can be abused and used beyond terrorism.
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  564. It is taboo for men if your body count as a man is less than one over a specified amount of time.
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  565. ​ @victorvaughan2590  We are naturally evolved for a small number of men - in a tribe, the top or "alpha" male, to have all the children while the rest of the men get nothing. We created monogamy as we developed into civilisation and society to ensure a stable society where the majority of men have the ability to start and raise a family with an unwritten agreement between men and women. The rise of the birth control pill, online dating, the destigmatisation of adultery and other factors are now reverting us back to our natural mating strategy which is why you're seeing rising numbers of male virgins, involuntary celibates and single male households.
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  566. The public said naaah to ULEZ.
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  567. But should people be forced to under threat of loss of liberty for being "disruptive"? Because if that is the case, what happens to atheists and republicans?
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  568. If it moves the power dynamic of dating and relationships in favour of men, feminists will demand its ban. If it can be used to control men, feminists will demand it be mandated.
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  569. They're more afraid of the "lone wolf".
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  570. The more I hear of the national service/conscription proposal, the worse it sounds. Potential for arrest, loss of all ability to function in society and even loss of citizenship if you refuse. If Rishi rolls out an "obesity strategy" for working age adults, he is preparing to send fighting fit men for rapid conscription and deployment into the arena of war. The people who support this are the women or the retired who will not face the consequences of being drafted.
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  571. ​ @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz  Should they be forced to have children or adopt? Because that's the inclination being given and forcing someone to do something sits uneasy with me as someone on the libertarian side of the political spectrum.
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  572. Or as is starting to be suggested, "expensive" because the calls for suffrage to be removed and costs of parenting to be laid on those without children is starting to be spoken. Predominantly recently by Elon Musk.
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  573. So this is how stand-up comedy dies. Not with a clap but with a slap. We now have a precedence of the idea of using violence against a stand-up comedian as a form of silencing because he offended someone's wife. Also concerning is how people who think this was staged are now being censored for "disinformation" in another example of follow the agreed narrative and don't come to a conclusion by yourself. And cancel culture is coming for Will Smith.
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  574. Most men are simply invisible. As shown in dating app statistics for the average man.
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  575. The mainstream media are really pushing hard on the atheist stance. Which is what is usually done when you want to scapegoat an outgroup.
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  576. It's not just the minimum wage. Robots, machines and computers do not need a pension, sick pay, maternity/paternity leave, rest, sleep, holidays, health insurance, to go on strike or workers rights. You physically can't work every hour of every day which means you can't compete before we've even got to a wage.
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  577. And I am see individuals online advocating for the same behaviour against everyone on the left. Seems to me we've crossed a rubicon and we're not going back.
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  578. Wait until the Online Safety Bill becomes law and can be enforced. The Government can ask Ofcom to ban any website that doesn't tow the line and all ISPs and VPNs will have to comply. It will become a cancellers charter to take down anyone and any website they don't like.
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  579. All the free-to-air broadcasters will close their outlets when the BBC goes online only and the commercial sector will follow them, unable to pay the transmitter running fees. GB News and TalkTV/TalkRadio included. Without the free-to-air broadcasters, the paywalled streaming services, all run by American outlets bar Spotify, even Sky is now owned by an American conglomerate, will introduce paywalls, increase existing prices and continue to push woke ideology. While YouTube's opposition will be blocked by UK ISPs along with the VPNs that allow access to "harm" and "misinformation" under the forthcoming Online Safety Bill. From the rhetoric of the Culture Secretary and the Government, it's not just the BBC and Channel 4 they have an issue with, its the fact that people are consuming media for free at the point of use. But I don't see what is British about abolishing our media industry and handing it over to woke American conglomerates to monopolise? Don't get me wrong, there are many issues with the BBC, Channel 4. ITV, Channel 5, LBC et al but I don't see how nuking everything and allowing the Americans to take over with woke ideology will accomplish?
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  580. How are the Government going to criminalise or blacklist the social score/digital ID of men who don't have partners? Scrutinising lists of households to see what men claim the Single Occupancy Discount? Make dating apps report men who have an account after a certain time period? Make common law marriage a legal requirement for every man over 18? I've also noticed that the media is moving from lobbying for age verification to lobbying for a complete ban for the pornography problem.
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  581. What will happen to verification which will have to be stored on a central database somewhere? "Ethical hackers" will hack the database and leak it as a "perverts database" where people can search for local "perverts". You would also have to ban Virtual Private Networks as well. The only way to ban pornography would be to whitelist the Internet and licence access to UK Internet users. You then have to ask, who would want the state controlling what we can and can't view online? At least with the broadcasting spectrum there is a rationale to licence limited bandwidth but not with the Internet.
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  582. Tim Pool said that in thirty years time the USA will be a Christian conservative country. I'll give it three years before the liberal, progressive push tumbles in the other half of the USA when homosexuality, same-sex marriage, contraception and abortion is either removed state-by-state as Mike Pence stated will happen or they are federally banned and the only options left are either abstinence or adoption should the Republicans win both the mid-terms and the Presidency. If Trump wins in 2024, all bets are off.
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  583. YouTube Premium. Or as it will soon be called - YouTube.
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  584. Readers added context they thought people might want to know Harry and Callum REALLY don't like left wingers.
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  585. Were seeing the beginning of an automatic mandated draft for men. If there is an announcement of an "obesity strategy" to get the working age population "fighting fit" by mandating gym memberships and healthy diets, we will be going to war and mandatory conscription (for men) will follow.
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  586. The problems we have with society comes about as culture and technology are shaped by biology. Long before women got the vote.
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  587. There's a fundamental flaw in your advice telling men to just approach everyone in a real life setting. If you attempt to approach every woman in a setting, after the first few times, women will notice you, they will gossip and you will be guaranteed to fail as you get labelled the desperate creepy cad who gives everyone the "ick". Pre-selection is a critical aspect of what makes a man attractive, if another woman has selected you, it sends a message that you're dating material to other women. That's why divorced men have better outcomes in dating compared to their long term single middle aged male peers.
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  588.  @captainphoenix  You're showing a complete lack of misunderstanding of how expensive medicine and healthcare is. The components and expertise that formulate both require high cost that can not be brought down by competition unless you want everyone to go out of business. It's why we've never seen a pure privatised healthcare system, it would be unaffordable to all but the rich. Even America has to have the Government fund their "private" healthcare system to the tune of a lot of money. Any suggestion that pure privatisation will bring the price of a complex operation and medication down to mere hundreds of pounds is frankly fantasy and ideological.
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  589. Russia's censorship enacted by the Roskomnadzor seems to be effective. It is likely the Online Safety Bill took inspiration from that as a full blown walled garden approach such as North Korea's Kwangmyong isn't (yet) feasible for a western country to implement.
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  590. In terms of the equality bit, if we don't have equality in terms of rights, would that require people to be treated differently based on different characteristics? Would you be against both equality of opportunity and equality of outcome as well as basic rights such as the right to (paid) labour, right to practice religion (or not), right to own property and so forth?
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  591. The new tactic of opponents of GB News is to use what happened to BBC journalist Nick Watt yesterday as justification to claim that the channel is creating radicalised extremists (opposed to lockdown) in order to ask Ofcom to revoke its licence, get advertisers to cancel and get GB News cancelled. In a similar way that was tried against talkRADIO.
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  592.  @butters-vs-chaos  I have heard a phrase - the most successful dating app is not Tinder. It's Instagram.
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  593. Which demonstrates that hook-up culture will not end if abortions end.
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  594. If it is anything like the radio shows I heard this afternoon, probably a phone-in on how disagreement with the correct viewpoints has bred extremism, so how do we get rid of disagreeme... extremist views?
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  595. Technically, a certain demographic of said boys (and men). Namely the asocial, autistic and unattractive ones. When the Prime Minister talked of "lone individuals" being a threat to national security, he's not referring to all of said boys.
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  596. "A taste of their own medicine" is not the rhetoric I am seeing from the right on various platforms.
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  597.  @KeepingTheIronThroneWarm  TheDonald for one (the biggest community for Trump supporters). The problem is, pointing out various posts of calls to action would violate YouTube ToS and I can't post links because that would get taken down by the spam filter. It's one of those cases where people will have to take my word for it.
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  598.  @NoNeed2No  How do I post what was said by numerous commentators without earning a permanent ban? Even if that wasn't an issue, how do I post links without tripping the filter that would delete every post? I'm intrigued. Regardless, considering news just in, they'll now be distracted.
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  599. Anything that takes sex and reproductive control out of the hands of women will be banned by law the second it becomes viable with the masses. Including male birth control, the sex robot and the artificial womb. And I can't see how viable the ability to raise a baby to birth would be given all the variables including energy use and potential for a power cut.
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  600. Only a matter of time before we have a climate change pandemic which will justify a lockdown.
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  601. Labour will ban them. They already tried in opposition. Now they're in power with a huge majority.
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  602.  @user-df4kf6fg7h  Merely giving a definition, not a judgement.
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  603. I shook that man's hand.
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  604. I believe when someone on the right is threatened with being cancelled it's an attack on free speech but when someone on the left is threatened with being cancelled, it's a "contractual obligation". Both sides are as bad as each other when it comes to double standards and hypocrisy.
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  605. Requiring verification and removing anonymity just as the Online Safety Bill would likely become law, the Government is pushing for digital ID which will lead to social credit and we still have those who would like people to be ruined for stating facts they find offensive, evidence that contradicts the narrative or uncomfortable truths. What could possibly go wrong?
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  606. That depends as the definition of incel has now been extrapolated to any man who is failing in the dating market and subsequently used as a loaded insult to destroy a man's social value. The vast majority of incels are simply the victims of the sexual revolution and Tinderisation of dating.
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  607. We already shame men who don't succeed in the dating market or have a significant other as "incels".
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  608. I wonder if in time farmers will en masse get so fed up with how things are that they will withdraw all food and dairy products and blockade the ports in a national strike (while ensuring that people don't starve)?
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  609. And with a financial strategy that is purposely designed to minimise the amount of people finding a long term relationship.
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  610. Problem is, how do you get paid? I don't think anyone gets a wage packet now.
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  611. There are people who think the same thing for dog foulers, speeding motorists and cyclists who ride on the pavement or go through red lights. The concept of "once a wrong 'un, always a wrong 'un" and the idea of rehabilitation as a concept is over.
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  612. Everything that Musk states as a rationale for his purchase and as a problem he has identified will only be solved through a universal paywall. Everyone stating that the $8 blue check paywall will not herald the end of free-to-use Twitter is fundamentally misunderstanding the problems Musk has identified and how Musk will ultimately solve it. Anyone who thinks paywalling will end with the checkmarks are, in my view, going to be mistaken. Paywalls are becoming more attractive as the cost of living crisis bites as they've figured out a small percentage of subscribers make more and interfere less than advertising revenue and advertisers. YouTube is starting to go down the same road. ETA: Financial crises is when you see paywalls increase in popularity and implementation. We can go back to satellite television in the early 90s when Sky in the UK paywalled virtually all English television channels at a time of the UK leaving the ERM, recession and a housing crisis. Same thing with news content on the Internet in the late 2000s and early 2010s during the financial crisis. The same is happening in the current cost of living crisis with self-generated and uploaded sites such as Twitter and YouTube.
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  613. When these campaign groups talk about sexism by men, they refer to unattractive men - unwanted attention, unwanted communication and anything deemed offensive to women. And the assumption is that sexism comes from unattractive, rejected and unpartnered men because a man's value is based on how women view him. Plus, being an attractive man allows you to get away with a lot more, even socially unacceptable behaviour. Soon will come a legal reckoning for an increasing number of men to remove them from society under the guise of fighting sexism in society.
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  614. Labour already tried in opposition.
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  615.  @perseus431  Yes. They put forward an amendment to the then Online Safety Bill while in opposition that failed.
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  616. Now they need to figure out why those consumers are turning to that content as opposed to succeeding in dating and relationships.
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  617. Hopefully the Lotus Eaters will be courageous enough to stand their ground against the cancel mob who will come for them if they do platform Fox.
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  618. The BBC's production of salt from the Italian election is so plentiful that they could export it all and easily wipe off the UK's debt with the revenue.
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  619. I saw the thumbnail and thought I should do a drinking game for every time the word "like" was mentioned in the video. Thank goodness I never went through with that.
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  620. There is a rationale behind the recent filming women in public moral panic - it's to push for public filming to be banned for "your own safety". Unless it's the Government, local councils, Police or mainstream media of course.
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  621. Just as this segment went out, its been announced that Mizzy is being hunted by the Police. I guess the public backlash was too much and they had to be finally seen to be doing something. And naturally, at least one MP is promoting the Online Safety Bill to 'stop others like Mizzy' (chinny reckon).
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  622. The safe, legal and rare compromise is over. Conservatives will not end their fight until both abortion and birth control are banned in all fifty states. They won't stop at making this a state decision. Nothing less than total victory for conservatives and utter humiliation for the left will do. We're in a culture war where the left has declared nothing less than total victory and the right has now finally realised that appeasement is not an option. This is an argument of morality, religion and ethics for the right and that will apply to everyone, not just the believers - a return to family, marriage, abstinence and religious values before the birth control pill was invented and before Roe v. Wade.
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  623. The mainstream media salt mining from the Italian election has been beautiful to behold.
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  624. We already have a shortage of eggs as it is. And it hasn't really improved since last Autumn.
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  625.  @michaelreid5307  We already have the technology now to give amputees the ability to control a prosthetic hand with full movement. It's only a matter of time before algorithms, AI and robotics create a robot with hands and eventually one that can outperform a human worker at a fraction of the cost.
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  626.  @ChrisWilliams-lf8ex  The ironic thing being is that I've noted some of your comments are being shadowbanned.
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  627. A survey a bit ago stated that over half of misogynistic rhetoric on Twitter aimed at women came from other women. However, you've got as much chance of them being charged with a hate crime as misandry being made a hate crime.
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  628. We're already seeing the fallout of Adolescence. Nottinghamshire Police has asked its female residents to report men who make them feel uncomfortable or give them unwanted behaviour. While half the population is being demonised, a specific part of that demographic is going to face the fury of forthcoming legislation and programmes. Namely the asocial, autistic and single males who are deemed a "threat to national security".
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  629. Hold on... aren't these the same people who judge a man's character based solely off of how many people he has slept with? As in, if its less than one (within a recent time period), he gets labelled an "Incel"? "Virgin"? "Misogynist"? "Loser"? "Beta"? Pot? Kettle? Black?
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  630. That'll only happen if contraception and birth control is banned or at least controlled so only people in established relationships can buy and use it.
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  631. A comforting thought (or not) is that Liz Truss is one of the two most popular candidates for Prime Minister should Boris ever step down. I'd dread to think what would be our fate now if she was PM. Probably something reminiscent of the Fallout series of video games.
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  632. Labour already tried to ban VPN's with an amendment to the then Online Safety Bill. They failed. But now they are in Government with a huge majority. It will be only a matter of when, not if. While the BBC tries with numerous articles on Telegram, if you see a glut of stories about misinformation, danger and harm on X, you know something is about to happen.
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  633. A woman over 35 unable to find a partner is oppression and ageism but a man over 35 unable to find a partner is entitlement and radicalisation? 🤡🌍
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  634. Birth control will be next to be targeted for overturning precedents after abortion. Watch.
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  635. From what I have seen of the ID/age verification mandated for all websites not "safe for kids" by July 25th, there will be Digital ID systems all run by one company and will be in effect, the UK's DIgital ID system privatised but run with the blessing of the Government. From what I have seen of what websites plan to implement, it will be Government photo ID once, live facial recognition on every visit and geolocation verification in the same way gambling apps and websites have to implement to prevent VPN's being used to bypass the law.
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  636. Dating is brutal. As is life and the reality of mortality. In both we create concepts, rules and narratives that offer comfort but does not reflect reality. In the latter, its religion and the afterlife. For the former, its modern day advice that would be labelled "blue pill" in online parlance. But if you actually look at how the reality of dating actually is, it's incredibly unequal, fiercely competitive and unsympathetically brutal.
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  637. They upload the YouTube video to Odysee. The only platform that has guaranteed to refuse to adhere to the forthcoming Online Safety Act is one that rhymes with "Humble". The same one that provides the infrastructure to the website. The same one the UK Government wants to shut down or at least block with the forthcoming said law.
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  638. Shaming 80%+ of men who are not at the peak of attractiveness and social status will not suddely turn them all into the top percentile of men. In the same way that every man can not have a young, fit woman with peak physical attributes. Reality has a terrible habit of bring home the uncomfortable fact that everyone does not start at the same level and everyone won't finish at the peak.
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  639. I use metric measurements for everything, because it is simple. Nothing to do with being anti-British, left wing or woke. I don't want this to become the new battle in the ongoing culture war. I don't want to force people to use metric in the same way that people should not be forced to use imperial. And I do not want to see metric being made illegal just to appease the pink tinted glasses of those who look fondly back to the 1960s, it would be no better than the "progressive" left who want to get rid of things they find offensive to go back to a time they deem better. And more and more things you expect to be in imperial is actually sold as metric in stores. My "pint" glasses are actually 500ml (an actual pint would fill to the very brim) and filtered milk, as opposed to regular milk, is only sold in metric bottles. The reality is, nothing will change unless the UK makes metric illegal because businesses will sell on a multi-national basis and every other country in Europe uses metric and they're not going to make the UK an exception to appease the imperial supporters.
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  640.  @mamaw4732  That's one of the likely strategies to stop people attending protests.
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  641. I got solace from looking into modern day dating, in particular, dating apps, and finding out just how rigged the game is by nature. Your experience may differ.
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  642. The argument now will be that it's just for the most heinous crimes. Then the slope start to get slippery and more crimes start to be added to the list. And what will happen when the left get power and start to treat "non-physical violence" as capital offences?
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  643. Today, hydrogen got the axe as a clean fuel. Renewables including solar and wind power face funding cuts and reductions in time. Tidal and hydro ruled out on cost grounds. Nuclear could be abandoned, including nuclear fusion technology, also on cost grounds. There is a push to abandon fossil fuels such as gas and coal. No more fracking in the UK. And there is pressure to end biofuel energy generation. We will have zero energy security and be wholly reliant on imports. I guess the thinking of those in power is that if we don't generate any energy, we can't generate any carbon!
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  644. A lifetimes supply of oxygen.
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  645. It being a crime to engage in such activity by deception, I suspect a good number of dating app users are sweating right now.
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  646. Men are the gatekeepers of commitment? Who gets to make the final decision when the ring is presented as the man is on one knee?
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  647. "No One is Coming for Your Abortions" Mike Pence disagrees.
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  648. Sadly, I fear people's patience of liberty for all and libertarianism has run out and those who were supporters of that are now in increasing numbers going authoritarian.
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  649. The dating market has been declining for the past few decades since the birth control pill, no fault divorce, Roe v. Wade and other societal changes. Tinder vastly accelerated it. It is of no coincidence that the numbers of young male virgins in the US started to increase at exactly the same time Tinder was released to the public.
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  650. Feminists: Strong, independent women taking power from the patriarchy. Also feminists: NO! Not THAT woman!
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  651. YouTube is acting like a monopoly. The only way to deal with such a situation unless you wish to capitulate is to not feed the beast.
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  652. What happened this weekend? 72% of female teachers have experienced misogyny in what is being labelled a "incel" problem according to a survey for the NASUWT. It's that magic number again!
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  653. I worry about who will replace him - someone who supports authoritarian health and green, globalist economic measures. And I also worry that removing the demos from the equation just like what was tried to stop Brexit in 2019 is being resurrected. We're already seeing demands for no General Election and staunch remainers demanding the reversal of Brexit immediately after Boris leaves. It does feel like a British coup.
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  654. The way that Dorries is going with the BBC, it will also have major consequences for commercial broadcasters too as the transmitter infrastructure will no longer get funding from the BBC and Arqiva who run it, are not a charity. It's like firing a nuke to take out a jeep in warfare, there will be a LOT of collateral damage. Unless you're Netflix, the publisher of Cuties. Just to make it clear, no more GB News as they can not afford to pay their share of the shortfall. GB News will close.
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  655. Men who don't show their emotions are psychopaths but men who shows their feelings give "the ick". Can't win.
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  656. The problem now is that the horse has bolted. Abolish the minimum wage now and while wages fall, prices won't follow. Same with price caps, the prices will rise but won't fall back if you abolish the caps.
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  657. To the person whose comment was shadowbanned, relating to people wanting an authoritarian police state, I saw the public reaction in 2020 to lockdown. What people advocated for shocked me to the core. A lot more people than I thought wanted to go further, more authoritarian and harder on their freedoms being restricted and the punishments being dished out. Do not underestimate how far people (not myself) would like capital punishment to be implemented by the state.
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  658.  @ChrisWilliams-lf8ex  incorrect. Someone who wanted an authoritarian police state would not simultaneously be opposing an authoritarian action that would be implemented by an authoritarian police state.
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  659. The way I heard it described is that women want a man who can provide and protect - the former being someone who can shelter and support themselves, their partner and the family with ease and the latter described as the concept that a man is prepared to fight and win while not showing any aggression to her or the family. Pre-selection is also a key component - if you're desired by someone else, you have experience and women desire you more. Ask any man who has a partner.
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  660. Bellingcat found his posts in hours and what a surprise, they're publicising the posts that are advocating for bachelorhood and making quotes that would be seen within the "manosphere" and red pill communities. An agenda is afoot.
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  661. So if criticism of any woman is now misogyny, will we see a full and unequivocal apology from Morgan about his criticism of Meghan Markle?
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  662. I already have more than enough toilet tissue in stock, thank you very much.
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  663. Suggesting identity, payments and financial commerce be the exclusive realm of private companies... > PayPal entered the chat.
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  664. But they can ask CIFAS to put a mark on you to get other companies you have an account with to close their accounts and ask all financial businesses to refuse you business for six years.
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  665. Can't risk getting shut down by a platform that will bend the knee to the Online Safety Act once it becomes law soon. YouTube has already started implementing a better safe than sorry approach in preparation for the law. One video violates the law and its a ruinous fine that will shutter YouTube down worldwide.
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  666. We're in a war of oneupmanship as to who can enact the most draconian censorship, treat everyone like children (which also spills into real world, anti-vice legislation) and bring forth an environment where everyone self-censors and block by default because the alternative is ruin. I also get the distinct impression that the EU would prefer the US to leave and they create their own tech ecosystem. Same with the UK.
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  667. Now ask why is there a market full of demand that is allowing them to successfully make money.
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  668. And by doing this, the shy, reserved, damaged, sheltered, anti-social, nerds, cowards, bookworms, musanthropes, fringe people and if could add introverts, eccentrics and recluse, now get labelled as extremist, dangerous and on a level of unpopularity and hatred usually only reserved for people who get ten years to life in prison. Is this how we want to treat men who have broken no laws (yet) and their only fault is to not have a partner?
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  669. YouTube immediately deletes civil, relevant comments but allows scam bots to post unabated. And yet still continues to gaslight rather than be honest and dish out a ban. Utter joke. Yes YouTube, I know what you're doing.
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  670. While we reap the consequences of the cost of living lockdown and the sanctions implemented by western countries hit their intended target, Russia is burning off gas at the border to mock us while their residents get to live in nice warm homes this winter with a declining inflation rate.
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  671. Hold that thought... Because there is pressure on Government to make it a requirement for every citizen to pledge allegiance to KIng and God (Lee Anderson MP got flak for not going that far with commentators on a social media post he made this weekend) as well as a demand for Government to impose zero tolerance on "disruption", which also includes ideas such as republicanism. It is likely they will go effective ban as opposed to actual ban. Republic probably won't be a campaign group for long and you certainly won't be hearing about republicanism on TV or the radio. Even Spiked is going back on its republican roots as of late, denouncing the campaign for British republicanism.
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  672. It's also being an unwanted man in society where you are devoid of a partner which demonstrates your worth in society as a man.
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  673. Woke American conglomerates will place everything behind a paywall.
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  674. Masks are excellent at being a psychological reminder of danger and fear. Excellent at virtue signalling of how good a person you are to others. Excellent at showing to others that you are a converted follower of the new religion of safetyism. Excellent at demonstrating at how you are scared of your own shadow. Excellent as a show of theatre. Masks are terrible at stopping the spread of a coronavirus (see Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland - mandates not lifted, still high case numbers. See care settings, N95, plenty of nosocomial spread. See every single country which implemented a mask mandate). But of course, you should be free to wear one if you choose. Don't force others to wear one under duress, coercion, threat or pseudo-scientific religious dogma.
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  675. The commentary from Daily Mail readers would suggest that it isn't just busking that people want banned, but any human noise from shouting to whispering. Town and city centre wide quiet zones.
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  676. And the cherry on top are those who take no accountability and responsibility for those bad decisions.
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  677. I am seeing a shift in women who don't find a partner by their 30s, they are increasingly not settling and the concept of "beta bux" is dying out. They are increasingly independent and either having children alone, adopting a pet or a more recent thing I have noticed, starting same-sex relationships whilst we also rhetoric that men need to "do better" despite the requirements for men being so high that increasing numbers of men can't meet them and are being disenfranchised from society. Having increasing numbers of men check out of society either through choice or consequence will not end well.
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  678. Your reminder that the Labour Party wants to ban Virtual Private Networks "for your safety".
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  679.  @Vile_Entity_3545  You're not going to convince people on here. They want shoplifters, pickpockets and people speeding to get the same sentence. They want the most brutal deterrent for even the smallest and trivial of crimes. This is what happens when people have had enough. They want the penalty for everything. Of course, by that logic, that would give the Government the right to give the same treatment for all the people arrested for "rioting" post Southport and all critics of the Government. If you give the state power to decide who lives or dies, they will use it against you.
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  680.  @ivorbiggun710  is it though? Because exactly the same argument is being made regarding the NHS as we speak.
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  681. Not just promoting celibacy, legally enforced by the state involuntarily celibacy for a period if a person did not live with their partner.
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  682.  @propheticrevelation3915  Permanently for specific comments, they've never appeared from what I have seen.
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  683. Of the single ones I know, they either don't work, have reduced how much they work and none of them have no problem attracting men (predominately for short-term fun) who queue up on the dating apps.
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  684. Adult content will be banned outright by Government before that happens. That could be reality if an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill passes.
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  685. For those with free accounts (for now), if you get suspended, you face the prospect in future of either paying $8 a month or having an indefinitely view only suspended account. Keep your eyes peeled for a terms of service update. Hank Green had a good take (don't judge it by him, judge it by his view) - free accounts will be so suppressed, frustrating and annoying to use that the website will be effectively paywalled.
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  686. Before this tragedy happened, the media and politicians were going all in regarding misogyny in society and the safety of women and girls. The danger now is that this tragedy will be used for a political agenda.
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  687. How long when the final decision comes out before Republicans sue every state who offer abortions?
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  688. I think a lot more people than you think would want the death penalty for not just heinous crimes.
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  689.  @asd3601  The only way people will stop using OF is if an Ashley Madison situation happens (which I can't advocate for because of the legal ramifications of doxing) and the details of every paying customer ends up being leaked, searchable and mapped. Practically, the only way you'll stop OF legally is to pressure the payment processors to stop providing service to them and condemn any company who still provides service to them.
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  690.  @saltwiththat  It would be if you want the collapse of free-to-air broadcasting. That wouldn't stop the same rhetoric and ideology being broadcast on paid for platforms.
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  691. In order to solve the problems that led to Musk purchasing Twitter in the first place, a universal paywall will be the only solution. You will all have to be verified to prove you are not a bot or a troll and you will all have to pay $8 a month. It will turn from being an exclusive club to a membership fee.
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  692. Ironically the Labour Government intends to implement Japanese style health checks that would wipe out a lot of concerns on this video. With mandatory health checks for working age people and mandated gym memberships and diets for those who fail the check. It's already been trialled in parts of the UK. But then for libertarians, we get into the realm of whether the state should mandate what you eat and if you exercise?
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  693.  @tomwinterbourne  They and any other websites that hosts any content that is not "suitable for children" - ie. PG upwards - will be required by law to verify the identity of their visitors. What they found in that industry in American states that implemented it is that it was too costly and bureaucratic to implement and they blocked those states. This WILL affect the Lotus Eaters too.
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  694. I do think the current war on sexism is actually a war on unattractive men to weed them out of society through societal and legal changes.
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  695. I do have to wonder why the people who oppose a papers please society with ID cards are now supporting a papers please society with ID cards when it comes to voting. A warning. Demanding ID for voting will not end with voting. Or be physical either. It is digital ID, health pass and ultimately social credit by the back door.
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  696. Not everyone... I managed to get on a tracker tariff before it was changed to have a waiting list and a mandatory smart meter requirement. I now pay about half the unit price of what virtually everyone else is paying.
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  697. Do not take The Huw Pill.
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  698. The danger then becomes that men with autism (the Government is already looking toward "loners" and single men) will end up being profiled and treated as a threat to society. And then we also get into the realm of pre-crime (Minority Report style society).
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  699. A lot of the recent rhetoric regarding the bill has been around the protection of women. It's not just children.
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  700. Amendment NC3 of the Crime and Policing Bill - if that is passed, OF WILL be banned, alongside a lot of sexual behaviour outside of at least two consenting adults in a physical private location without payment or commercial benefit.
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  701. When push comes to shove, people who did have concern with climate change and emitting CO2 will suddenly not give a damn any more when they fire up the woodburners and chop trees down to keep warm.
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  702. Tate is a symptom of a much bigger problem. One part of which was propagandised tonight on Channel 4's Hollyoaks.
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  703. That's the whole point of this moral panic. Single men are deemed a threat to women because they're unattractive, feminists have lobbied the Government into believing that, we now have the sales pitch with Adolescence and coming soon will be the crackdown.
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  704. I have noticed a growing swell of support for the abolition of democracy as a result of the situation we find ourselves in and for the UK to become, less of an absolute monarchy, more of an technocratic monarchy. Think SAGE + King Charles III. I see it as elites, the markets and those in power taking back control... from the people.
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  705. People want if for every single crime, even down to the smallest, most minor of offences. Shoplifting, burglary and speeding. People's frustration has got that bad.
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  706. You will be delighted to know that there is an obesity strategy coming and one of the likely proposals is to force people into the gym and lose weight or face consequences, social credit style. Why? People who pass away prematurely are not profitable for either the Government (tax) or the pharmaceutical industry (profit).
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  707.  @kmech3rd  "No step on snek" also includes incels and the bachelors who simply won't father children or find a partner (about 10% of society).
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  708. At this point incel = unattractive male whom a female does not respect or gets rejected. As men are judged on how women view them and if a woman has selected them as attractive enough (pre-selection).
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  709.  @predcon1  If you don't like what I say, the report button is right there. That's what it is for.
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  710. For those who support the death penalty, when the left wing get power through democratic means, will you support the implementation of capital punishment for "non-physical violent" crimes such as deadnaming, misgendering and misogyny?
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  711. In today's round of "why are men not approaching women". Approaching women is misogyny (if you're unattractive). Not approaching women is misogyny. The game is rigged to ensure the unrequited and rejected can't win.
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  712. They're going to turn their attention to the Internet so soon the Lotus Eaters will be in their sights thanks to the new Online Safety Act. If activists get their way, they will go further and push the concept of a national Intranet for "the safety of children".
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  713. What I find with your average member of the general public - the silent majority, they will tell you that they support gender equality if asked because it's the politically correct answer to give. But privately they oppose it and actively support discrimination against men. Take the recent widespread support recently for British Cycling to abolishing the identity of male from the competition categories in order to preserve women's sport.
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  714. Masks are no longer a thing in Britain? Visit your local hospital where chances are they still follow "the science" in rebellion to the Health Secretary as opposed to following actual science.
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  715.  @16m49x3  The Cochrane Review of over seventy randomly controlled trials suggests it would make little to no difference if I was to be charitable. The whole concept of mask wearing as a miracle invention to stop all infections has been repeatedly and consistently debunked by all expect those who have ideological rationales to keep masks going (ie. for psychological nudging). It's settled and it's over.
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  716. There are a small percentage of men who are given a pass. A consistent that always forms in feminist fiction that deals with removing men from the planet, it's never all of them.
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  717. I think people have got fed up with the idea of political leaders doing what they like despite what the people say so people are now advocating for removing democracy for authoritarian rule, which does seem to align with what the majority want - a powerful leader who gets things done without the need for approval from anyone else. It is a sentiment I have noticed creep in within the last few years, particularly since lockdown in 2020 when we were ruled by diktat.
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  718. Do these anti-women activists have mothers? You have to wonder what their relationship is with their mothers.
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  719. The BBC also platformed Lily Phillips on Newsnight this week and got her to call for adult content and the "manosphere" to be banned. A political agenda is being crafted and we are currently in the midst of a moral panic.
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  720. It is possible for both Just Stop Oil genuinely believing what they think and the Government exploiting their actions to ban protest to be right at the same time. Problem. Reaction. Solution.
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  721. The Government is reacting by threatening to extradite him to the UK. It won't work, it's chest-beating but they'll try.
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  722. Now we have the Government under pressure to regulate speech for "speculation" as well as fake news and misinformation. There's also talk of right wing groups and organisations are about to be proscribed and the media have taken aim at Farage.
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  723.  @OzixiThrill  Or increasingly, the state.
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  724. Advocates in the UK who contact the right wing media outlets do not want US insurance style health care. They don't want developed countries "socialist" insurance systems either. They want pay-as-you-go, full market price, upfront and in full healthcare. No Government intervention, no employer contributions, no insurance payments, no bank loans or credit, pay in full and upfront. No exceptions.
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  725. In the UK, they can ask CIFAS to place a mark on you. When that happens, not only will you lose your PayPal account, your existing accounts with other companies will likely be closed and you won't be able to open an account. And that is on you for six years.
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  726. I wonder if the schools will encourage pupils to point the finger at their classmate and shout "incel" like an old fashioned witch hunt.
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  727. There are very few things that are considered worse than being an undesired man. They are truly some of the most despised, stigmatised and hated upon people in society. Men's worth in society is based on his ability to be desired by women or at least one woman.
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  728. Nail on the head. Lower status and unattractive men are always invisible, regardless of their age.
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  729. Now do the Public Order Act and how it is already being used to quash and censor the concept of republicanism in Britain by raiding the campaign group Republic, arresting its CEO and kettling and arresting any person who shows a pro-republic stance or rhetoric. We're going from being barred from making jokes to barred from dissenting opinions.
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  730. If she isn't, others are demanding she does. And if she does not, they will with zero denouncement from right wing commentators. This is the danger of escalation and the desire for retribution.
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