Comments by "adamnesico" (@adamnesico) on "What if the Reconquista Failed?" video.

  1. Reason is simply that there was no genocide in muslim conquest. Natives remained.
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  2.  @himalayas1647  wrong, they started going backwards in 11 century. IbnKhaldun was the last muslim sage.
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  3.  @ahmedsalek976  Not, but th english, the dutch, the french, the smallpox, the hogs, the salmonella enterica,the influenza, the tuberculosis... Exist, so the genocide would still happen. Its always the same when one cuture faces a far less develped one. Bantu and austronesians too has driven each two human races to extinction when they expanded.
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  4. Iberia united? Learn iberian history. Goes through cycles of join and break. Just see how were 3 diferent times of taifas in alAndalus. Tech more advanced? Not if this prevents the european golden age of technology. No, centre of Europe would still be from France to Germany. alAndaluswould still face the arab civ decadence.
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  5. @sigmagrindset86 Dont generalise, many muslims I know dont do the 5 prays/day.
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  6. Why? as the video said, andalusis soon stopped trying to expand.
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  7. Yes, and France would retake it.
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  8. They were conquered by almoravids and almohads, who were fanatics. So, i dont see that. Renaissance was european thing.
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  9.  @joffreybaratheon9044  No way, muslim golden age f science ended by the own muslim process of decadence and integrism. We dont have the wrintings of Ibn Firnas, probably because they were burned in the X century.
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  10. He refers to the umayads of Cordoba.
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  11. No way. France was a strong country and strongly catholic, andalusis were unable of take it. India was conquered by the powerful turks. Christians were very untoelrant against muslim missionaries, I dont see the british accepting them. And even if they did, they would end expulsed by the normans, as happened in Sicily.
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  12.  @Eabokor1  He refers in culture, and I agree, Umayads in fact tried to imitate Syria in Iberia.
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  13. Of cour we look eropean, we look the same as italian, greek and welsh.
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  14. Or battle would have remained in the Pyrenees, with the basques and catalans supported by France. Key motivation to Columbus voyage was to find a direct route to the spices due to the ottoman embaargo of sppices on christians. So it would probably happen here too. In fact vikings, celts and possibly basques already had arrived, so its even more likely
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  15. What makes you say thy knew America their last years? Even if that true, why go fo them? They wouldnt take the british isles, too poor, cold, wet and muddy for like them.
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  16.  @somethung8188  USA has a ridiculous amount of wealth, but the average spanish has a similar or better life quality than the average gringo. USA is too very unequal.
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  17. he refers to the umayads of corduba
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  18. Unless other would conquer it be4, it would had fallen sooner or later.
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  19.  @Robbie-pc1dl  Not same path, renaissance started in Iberia, Renaissance gardens imitated the andalusis. Not spanish traducters that would traduct arab books to latin.
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  20. Why?
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  21. First, if the iberians discovred America was simply due to the ottoman spice embargo that didnt affected the muslims. So the muslims had no reason to sail west. Tell me, why would they do what the moroccans or senegalese didnt and mali tried and failed? andalusis could get slaves simply with either piracy or buying them to other states, as they did on our timeline. alAndalus was never intrested in seafaring.
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  22. Why? Neither Morocco or Senegal tried to colonize America. Mali tried and failed.
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  23.  @himalayas1647  life quality and tech and intelectual innovation are diferent things.
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  24. The analysis is accurate. from its foundation the Cordoba caliphate didnt interfered in european politics. 1No, alAndalus was never a militar powerhouse as the ottomans. 2 Wrong, Morocco didnt submittd to the ottomans for not lose their independence, they too would have closed the straits. alAndalus would have done the same, unless it would be facing an invasion. 3 In our own timeline french were too more powerful than the brits. French would be very busy in wars, not being an island or merchant nation wouldnt be as interested in a good fleet.
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  25. No, this channel jus acknowledge the fact that alAndalus was isolationist through its history. Although certainly its presence would have consecuences. Maybe be the target of crusades?
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  26.  @ccityplanner1217  Not, was simply that both spanish and moroccans didnt enbaled them to go to the Atlantic,
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  27. Mexico was in fact a rich nation be4 become independent.
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  28. I dont see alAndalus doing what Morocco or Mali, being stronger, didn’t.
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  29. 5 After the caliphate collapse, alAndalus split in taifas and was invaded by moroccans. And the split happened 3 times. Msulim spain power faded fast, and it was never a militar pwer. Easy to maintain control for same religion? XDXDXDXD You dont know the history of neither alAndaus or Magreb. Morocco and Senegal too had easy acces to America and didnt reached them. To India? Why? There would not be the spice embargo against christians that amde Iberia to search their oen route.
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  30.  @Charismao90  Video is title What if Reconquista failed, not What if alAndalus remained strong. If muslim power faded, if the cantabric has been islamised as the video proposes, the reconquista could be avoided, but that wouldnt avoid the decadence of alAndalus. If you think that for have same religion control was easy, you dont know muslim history. Taifas had all the same religion, too Northafrica an Iran. See the many changes and divisions. Yes, and the capital will fall once the dinasty becomes decadent. Read ibn Khaldun. Portugal didnt arrived to Senegal until XV century, they had plenty of time for expand and they didnt. In fact a great expedition was launched from Senegal and noone returned. Why would french and english ships would motivate that? In our world berber sea tech was more than enough for piracy against Europe.
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  31. In this scenario I guess alAndalus would end becoming a berber ruled country, if doesnt become taifas again, what is quite likely. Morocco was arabised by arab tribes that slowly coneured the berbers.
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  32. Why? Iberia discovered AMerica due to the ottoman spice embargo. Here wouldnt happen.
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  33. Why? In this timeline America gets colonized basically the same. Just the Tawantisuyu survives.
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  34.  @ahmedsalek976  And what makes you think that the french, english and dutch would be better? Havent you realized that the side with lots of natives in America is the iberian side and not the english? In fact, in this timeline the situation for the natives could be even worse. Iberians kept the natives as workers, protestant english settlers didnt wanted them not even for that. Didnt you saw the genocide done in Australia and in USA? Why? alAndalus was an isolationist region uninterested in sea travel, none of its muslim neighbours colonized America, what made portugese to make the exploration age was the lack of land and the spice embargo for christians. Add too that vikings, celts and possibly basques had discovered America be4 Columbus, just the discovery didnt arrived to the kings. If something doesnt change, I dont see alAndalus discovering America be4 the others.
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  35.  @ahmedsalek976  Well, the Tahuantisuyu isnt colonized so the war of conquest is avoided there. But in the rest of place I dont see why should be better.
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  36. Well, in our timeline alAndalus stayed out of european afairs. Even in this timeline it still would be isolated from Europe due to the basques and catalonians.
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  37. Why? Neither morocco or Senegal did. Muslims loved trading, but not exploring. Converted? You mean colonized?
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  38. Crusades against alAndalus?
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  39.  @Bogfrog1  Of course it was succesful, thats why you call itself a latino.
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  40.  @briaormead4239  Nothing? he documentary deep time history had 3 chapters. One for Sumer, one for Spain and Portugal, and one for northern urope industrialisation. Portugal andSpain connected America, changing world history. So the makers of that doc acknowledge Spain and Portugal as aprt of the most influential countries ever.
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  41.  @alphagamer9505  Wrong, China influenced their neighbours, it had opeing periods.
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  42.  @oreodepup  Spain is a fractured empire. All latinamerican states are pieces of Spain. And a cosntant of spanish history, is that was was united and separated, will unite again. Liar, Spain wasa world empire for 2 centuries after the great armada. Lets see if USA is still united in 200 years.
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  43. Inusrial revolution started in Germany.
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  44.  @nizam5568  Though history alAndalus was isolationist. He suposes that in this simulation. I guess he simply though he was unable ot predict what would happen. Maybe a cicle of taifas, moroccan and fench invasions. It would had been interesting to for example show Catalonia expanding. Although certainly something should have changed. I guess
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  45. Poor? If it were, wouldn be so full of inmigrants.
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