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@NoX-512 that sounds like an awful and unsustainable approach. how can one know someone is fitting neatly into one type of neurology or the other, you just ask them? and how will they know? the binary that has evolved alone is already divisive and forms no understanding or sustainable community.
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@carpballet as in past-tense i’d assume. but it is interesting (very unfortunate) how there seems to be zero undiagnosing as in all disorders. ppl can change in more ways than one or two over time.
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@grayaj23 haha. still better than majority of humans then. got it
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@davidwuhrer6704 yesyes! well said ❤
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@mohamedwalidoutaleb4970 are you trans hating ?
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i could use lots of help now really and never had it in school. but i don’t think getting diagnosed would grant me anything that supportive now. what would it do that is healthy? i could join fake sense of online community who has turned our species into a polarized divisive binary- if not A type neurology then automatically B type neurology exists. B type does not understand type A. but who created mental healthcare systems, the DSM, diagnostic testing strategy er to begin, was it type A (neurodivergent) type ppl? why subscribe to any of it; why only write off hans asperger. systems that fail all types of ppl is what needs a proper, taxing, expensive diagnosis. why so much trust in pathology of behavior, how does this ever feel helpful when there’s so many layers like classism and inefficient economic structure to navigate that shape us, that fail everyone basically.
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pre req of being influencer is being full of shit so sounds about right.
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exactly. same exact thinking occurs for majority of ppl i’ve known including myself. i’m kinda weird. super weird for others in many cases, super dysfunctional in several areas if careers and fitting in w specified support groups are important. but i don’t think like that. its arbitrary and relative. it’s not great though it’s just me my ways of being. what does terming yourself or being medically termed do for you if i may ask ?
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@NJ-wb1cz the ‘futile fight’ isn’t against who ppl are. its applying critical thinking and closer examination of an establishment that comes from neurotypical design initially. and still. the binary however is misguided that if one camp exists (asd/ ND) that that automatically proves another camp exists, thus building a rigid feedback loop that somehow a binary w extreme polar differences exists. it’s not who ppl are that needs questioning and pushing back in the world of behavior and struggle it’s our thinking - is it not informed by the economical and social and health systems that fail us?
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@Tea-gh8cu ah good point! i just see the traits as not that problematic to begin. ppl might not like this thinking. if ppl don’t have the asd type traits then that’s fine too. it’s not a hyperbolic polarized binary how internet has made it to seem.
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@AlanAuti indeed. i relate to possessing those qualities but i’ve realized it’s unclear if NT designed criteria initially for what ASD and ND is. it’s likely going to change soon how it does and the thinking may shift and neurology (probably already does) show it’s not a binary; that there is no camp A, just because there’s a camp B. this type of divisive binary… it’s just unreliable in navigating who is understanding or how they behave. i find it damaging, a logical fallacy, and w mental healthcare being so slow to evolve is just very unhelpful and unhealthy; often plain wrong historically on many things. this is not attack on a person or group; just trying to create more room for thinking on this. we are complex snd systems around us fail us more do that our neurology does!
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@chloroxgaming agreed! cept for the norm part. there isn’t a way to really measure normality. it just feels like it’s real but too many ways to be a person. there’s no typical or normal in neurology. doesn’t make sense.
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@Mojojojo85757 you have to take an uneducated guess. you have to side w a specific type of thinking; that there’s a divisive binary of neurologic informed behavior. one side being there reinforces the other side’s credibility. you don’t even need the dsm anymore. there’s youtubers! at the expense of shitty judgement now we autism cronies can know who we are inside. yay. bridging understanding and compassion day by day. how typical
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@NoX-512 typical.
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@DeirdreSM i’d be curious respectfully if you’ve looked into any science papers on the long term usage of those meds? not familiar with those ones. my inclination is that it’s likely a no on all psych meds the efficacy long term. interesting too recent study finding no real evidence that serotonin is connected to depression.
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@carpballet agreed more than most but you may have better luck engaging taking out the word lazy as it isn’t really specific and puts ppl on defense. not to police but maybe you’d agree it’s lack of critical thinking / quickness of subscription to groupthink when a label becomes identity + excuse to be less accountable. personally i can’t take mental healthcare or its authors or disorders very seriously bc it’s still archaic and unhealthy and misguided.
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@sgshaday agreed!! the neuro-binary is a total divisive non community building adolescent feeling force. i don’t know it’s it’s mostly internet phenomena but it drives me mad. i dont think even if i were diagnosed i could hang w autism cronies. so much groupthink and non questioning. just desperate for echo chamber confirmation bias.
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@stevewatson6839 complete… i think look deeper like into evolutionary factors. plenty of other animals thrive in such a way too. survival layers. it feels good to connect. but if there disconnect it does feel rough. belonging.. yeah, it is a bitch !
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@danielmoore4024 it’s like astrology but somehow worse and more divisive lol
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@NoX-512 so you get disability money for autism diagnosis? sorry old thread but interesting one. just curious .. am now weighing out benefits of getting diagnosis vs staying far far away from mental health archaic ish world.
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@britneybij3997 that’s if it feels reasonable to trust that system. it’s not for certain that health professionals have this right. it’ll change again. why subscribe to anything w terms of disability or diagnosis. i know ppl get the wrong idea about this but ppl been wrong so much in recent past. i’m just gonna study the culture but am holdin out for better ways to think on it !
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@Bobshnogen maybe. but there also other ways to think on it too. it doesn’t seem scientific as behavior is too complex; too many variables. it’s not an absolute - where we are in thinking toward developmental neurology and behavior. look at history to as in how it’s been often very inaccurate concerning the brain, mental health, it’s psychiatric institutional groupthink etc. of course it’s easy to think Einstein was autistic. reminds me of astrology. lots of confirmation bias. why subscribe to any of it. do ppl get income or a real deeper sense of who they are, what dsm says you are rather or now youtube ppl ;who do make good money off it) and it’s cult of healthcare officials (who have probably been so called neurotypical besides)? why give any of this power. it’s not even empowering. it doesn’t improve capitalism or other shitty systems that fail us.
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@skippy6086darn ya better whip that spectrum into shape !
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@Murderdogs going off autism community’s comments and content creators on the subject they are super black and white and not intellectually honest / intellectuals it seems much at all. it’s a ton of young ppl w a lot of groupthink needing to belong to a category. they seem ok to create a ridiculous binary of other everyone who doesn’t relate to or understand autism. that aren’t question things like environmental factors being defunct and where we are w mental health still being defunct. curious if you’ve spent time w autism’s youtube authorities who are obsessed with creating criteria for diy psychiatry and confirmation bias. it’s totally maddening.
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@coreymorris1693 this is very common yeah. which can be ok
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@NJ-wb1cz it’s doesn’t have to be considered arguments. can it be discussion?
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so like, poopoo
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@david0aloha it was humor brough
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@balasubr2252 we sure didn’t. look into biodiversity and also evolution or forgive if u were joking
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that sounds lovely
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wacky. but what was the field / type of work this involved though? some entities like forest service prob aren’t tech savvy.
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collective action problems basically
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@tetrasphere8165 if you don’t understand how then how can you really know you’re not participating in it? group think is like sand in the toes it just somehow gets everywhere and stays for a while
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@lovecraftgaming6507 ahw don’t say that about yourself lol
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@ProfessionalCodeDigger he lives inside my hort! that’s how he can tell if i have sex before marge or not
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@2550205 that sounds wonderful
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@Michael-Archonaeus oh come on man, gotta get over that brand of super outdated thinking.
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@Michael-Archonaeus ? what is example of “beyond the natural”
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@WinstonSmithGPT it’s basically the exact same thing ?
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@ellisjackson3355 not for everyone. my sisters done this for several years now. she can’t seem to learn anything new it’s really effed. some pain is bigger than others
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@TheOzumat it is though ! if there’s comments and ppl interact w language then how is it not social media. it’s the weird hidden one bc for me snd maybe you, the other ones get to be too much or not enough so you do the tube but really we’re sitting on a couch. thumb typing. info tainment ing. it’s kinda the same damn thing !
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@vincei4252 also other types of decay that are real life related aye
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@u4yk that’s who originally wrote it yes
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if planet was a cookie how would it orbit and rotate? do they not have 14th century basic questions? i think some weird ass seasonal changes would occur or not occur quite and satellites/ planes etc would have to turn some very very fast sharp corners!
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did yer own research. sounds weird. like your assistant or intern had the week off so u had to do your own ? or and who else’s research is it to do !
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could be more specific: scary and sad that ppl are still keeping the dark ages around /no value of critical thinking. it’s not innate: it’s disconnection of community, education systems and other for-profit systems that fail us.
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tried doing some freewrites on it? dedicate deliberate time to write / explore the troubling things. i need to do it too badly. once a week dedicate the time. i feel like two hrs is good. allow the thoughts to leak through and accept them when not writing. but being off social med is always healthy so i think great idea there!
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@zimzob seems like you are a trans hater?
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@joemahma3017 i kno u are but what are you. trans denial is hatred and is so fucked up you have no excuse
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@joemahma3017 look into history of marriage as that was a long long time ago that ppl did it primarily for children (to help with farming / agriculture specifically. ppl do it for love too! now a day. if you fall for someone sane sex and they want you to marry them you’ll be like “nope that stuff is for kids!?” assuming adoption is actually an awesome viable thing ppl who can’t have kids partake in. interesting take. very nonsensical but interesting.
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