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That's why I've never voted in my life!! The business ALWAYS comes first and the people suck up to the BS!! We live in an exclusive system!
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@persimon8249 Wow! I don't know where you come from but it sure seems you're not from the lower ranks of the british 'public army'. Again, with every other discourse on YouTube, thanks for sharing your opinion. My opinion is that disenchantment with life comes as a result of bad experiences with other people. It is other people who make rules and legislation for us to abide by. In fact other people can make us or break us! People in this society simply don't care! With so many people filled with disenchantment then I think anybody is wasting their time defending a country filled with people who simply don't care about other people!
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@persimon8249 tks for your opinion but the fact is there's a growing number of people the older they get who dislike the very society they were reared into! How sad is that?
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Hi cindy - I can understand your sentiments but I've never felt free in this country. For example, Councils always promote they give residents best value but the majority always put up Council tax! how messed up is that? Do you not think they ought to be attempting to reduce council tax as a long term goal? That's just 1 example but there's so much unfairness in this country, it's political system is crap, the education is crap too and the people of this country are ruled by an ARCHAIC system! We're living in 2019 not 1519! Think about what has changed in this society? We still have a potential future knig calling this country 'Blighty' of all things! Ever thought what Britain is blighted with? The people are miserable - go to your local bus station and try to find this thing you call 'hope' This country and the communities that are formed are an exclusive club and people like me feel excluded even though I was BORN HERE!. I don't vote simply because of the exclusivity of the club! Great Britain can be so much better and yet nobody doing anything to improve anything because people aren't being made aware exctly how much better it can be!
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the guy's a twat in my opinion! then again they're ALL twats - all MEPs and MPs! I'm so glad I don't vote and I'm not even on the electoral register either! The whole system's a joke but nobody is laughing!
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@Lady on google Totally agree! It's one of the reasons why i feel excluded from the voting system!
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we're on completely different wavelengths cindy although we can BOTH agree that things can be sooo much better! The biggest problem is the system itself! The entire system needs overhauling! The only person who can do this and direct or order others is the head of the business - who at present is 92 yrs of age! So even after her being monarch for a good part of her life things haven't changed one bit! people are still the same living under the same royal charters that have governed legislation since Parliament began! Politcians in the main are not at fault as they work within a framework sanctioned by royal charter! The basic laws we live under are there simply because of royal charter. For some unknown reason people just fail to realise the extent to which the people of this country are under monarchial rule and how much the monarch dictates what we can and cannot do! How can things change and improve when the monarch won't change. Happiness and the quality of life is better all round for the people of this country rather than superficial bullshit standards of living!
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as you think you can change things, what are you going to do to change toward the longer term? What are you going to do to change the quality of your life?
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quote - but we've got to start SOMEWHERE who's we? have you asked everybody else or is it just you and me?
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quote - THEY changed things, THEY changed - and dramatically IMPROVED - the quality of their lives..... improvements that are still in force today so why are people so miserable in this country when in your understanding changes were implemented years ago and people should have plenty of reasons to be cheerful?
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quote - there are MILLIONS of us who feel like this so the 1381 revolt was a waste of time then? seems like it to me! why aren't you and yer leaders rattling the gates of buckingham palace? too scared of being bullied by her armed forces or her police constabulary?? it's why i don't vote cos the whole system is shit!
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i never said that you said people have plenty of reasons to be cheerful - i stated it because according to you the peopel's revolt have made peopel's lives better from then on! But the revolt was over money not the quality of their lives! I'm on a different wavelength than you it would seem. People still remain peasants as they act like animals and insane ones at that - go check out how demented people are at your local shopping centre to start with! Even wealthy people are demented too! So much for education system! Btw I was in my bank today and a sign read - helping you with your money. The money you have in your bank account is not YOUR money - The money is owned by the Crown and is produced under license by the Bank of England. The sign should read - helping our customers manage the money they're given! And on a final note I was in tesco today and the cashier agreed with me that the system needs changing not just the politicians!
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can i ask - do you think peasants and/or poor people still exist today in this society? or better still, do you think there are people in this society who consider others to be peasants and/or poor? Yes or no? If you're answer to both is yes then aren't you so glad the peasants revolt only blew up a storm and the dust settled afterwards
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btw isn't is odd how the word peasant resembles appease in certain respects! Right ok Cindy I'm off for some clay pigeon shooting whlist the peasants work the land! Tally-ho!
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quote - Corrupt politicians make decisions that benefit THEM and not us - and although you seem to blame the monarchy - which certainly isn't perfect by any means - a Bill being given Royal Assent is usually just a formality these days - the actual laws are made by the politicians. You still can't see the wood through the trees - ROYAL decree written in CHARTERS are the foundation for ALL laws in this CROWN OWNED country. By voting for another MP won't change anything!
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quote - Of COURSE "Peasants" and "Poor People" still exist today in our modern society. so much for peasants revolting then as there's no change there! so much for your protest marches against iraq, brexit, another referendum - let the people decide! Waste of time! When are people going to learn the best way to beat the system is through non-participation or keeping one's participation to a bare minimum! People up top love people like you for it is people like you who give them value! Just think if you was a councillor or MP and NOBODY VOTED for you or any of them! Wouldn't that tell you just how little value your role is and there's very little point in doing it?
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absolutely - a good man always does nothing! Learn wisdom Cindy!
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cindy by virtue of good men's ability to do nothing that ensures they keep their goodness, evil will has always ruled over good in this world! religious people often state ' satan rules the world' and rightly so! Regardless, one is doing everything by doing nothing; by not voting, not participating, boycotting council run events etc. How do you think an MP would feel if nobody bothered with them and their political party? Even the Catholic Church has seen a marked reduction in ordained ministers over the years. People are losing interest in the people up top! Things will have to change because the people up top will get tired of it all! You need to learn wisdom - silence is a very powerful strategy that doesn't cost lives or bring out unnecessary ill-feeling!
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Inheritance?? You're living in a dream world Cindy. There are more single childless adults in the UK than ever before. Doesn't say much about the beloved society you want to save so badly!!!
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but there's always been things wrong with this society irrespective whether we're in or out of europe, whether there are immigrants or no immigrants etc!! You like many others just use brexit as an excuse to vent your frustrations and anger given to you by other people in this society! It's not my fault we receive a crap education to start with!
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there is only one word for the educatoin I received - SHIT! The education I received could have been so much better and focused more on the individual and REAL life rather than on subjects/topics that are meaningless! We can learn anything other than what it's like to live our lives successfully and what we can do to make the most of our lives! We live in a society where we receive NO education on our lawful responsibilities! How messed up is that?
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quote - I have been voting UKIP since the 1990's and I am fully aware of the damage the EU has done to us - it's their way of controlling us. The EU can't control us that much else the UK would use the Euro. You talk about control and yet you FAIL to acknowledge the detrimental way people are controlled even before the EU stepped in! Remember you and I are both SUBJECTS!
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Err Cindy - the life experience doesn't change - don't you realise? The life experience ought to be the most fundamental part of one's education What's it like to be human? What do you need to do to get the best out of one's life? What can I expect from living a life? Haven't zillions of people gone before us, for us to know what the human life experience is like? And what the best ways are to live it? Instead we're told meaningless rubbish! I'm so glad I've never voted in a country where the people in it simply don't care about others!
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By the way, you do realise that we live in a country where somebody can earn more money selling cars than provide so-called 'care' for another human being! How fucked up is that?
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It's insanity
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quote - Yes - much of it is - but that doesn't stop you and me and anyone else who makes an effort from rising above it. There is no easy answer - as kids we look to adults to help us, you're not making sense - sometimes you agree then others, you disagree! We look to adults to help us when we're young and yet we as adults place trust in other adults for solutions? Your thinking is convoluted What you are stating is that when one is young adults let you down via education etc but then when one is an adult, one places trust in other adults who they themselves have been let down by other adults when they were younger???? You need to read Let This Be The Verse by Larkin
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quote - The "Life Experience" is different for everybody. well why is it some people can be happily married for their entire lifetime yet the majority endure family breakdown and personal tragedy ??? are you telling me the majority of people cannot have good wholesome and truly loving relationships and be happily married for their entire lifetime because they are different??
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cindy - why don't you just admit that you're like me and millions of other people, unhappy, feel hard done by that you're living in a crap society ! Save a lot of typing!
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But you're not changing anything! What have you done to make MY life better?
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quote - Because I don't believe in being a Whinging Crybaby..... isn't that what you have been doing since leaving your first post on this thread? Whinging, whining and moaning I'm happy to accept this society is shit and can be so much better and decide (through no fault of my own) to take little part in it! You moan and whine because you take part in it - if you vote stop moaning as you've had your say! And remember what the initial commenter stated If Voting changed anything, it would be illegal. how true those words are!
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Ellie Finn I've heard all that rubbish before! By doing nothing I am doing everything within my capabilities! What better way can you show to people other than you couldn't give a shit because what they do isn't worth caring about? Why should i give them value and meaning to their jobs and to the structure of the system, when money is the No1 priority more than people! Nobdy cares in this society; nobody gives a shit! This society is a JOKE why should I waste my valuable time on it?
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@timbookatuncommonsense8778 great comment! just think if around 85% of population did not vote and didn't bother with any of it! the silence would be devastating
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@F-J. tks felicity......but no thanks!
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I see farage is standing to be re-elected - standing as an MEP for the very organisation he allegedly detests! So much alleged disdain for the European Union and a firm adherant of Britain's place not to be in it, that he will happily take from the EU around £85,000 a year! He's even European enough to have a German wife! I think Nige loves the EU! I mean what has Britain ever given to him? I'm so glad I don't vote and never have done and never will!
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@colinnugent4576 living in a society where the majority of people argue, bicker and moan amongst themselves instead of actually making things much better for themselves and others! I live in a society where money is of greater value than the very people who live in it! What a f*cked up society it is eh? Understandable why I have very little to do with it!
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@colinnugent4576 well the impression i get from everybody is that brexit is off! check out this news story - https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1113439/brexit-news-european-elections-germany-manfred-weber-second-referendum If true, do you think Nigel Farage will still stand to be re-elected as MEP even though he doesn't want to be in EU? Be kinda confusing if Nigel does get re-elected as MEP in light of his Brexit views don't you think? But it's all about money not people isn't t!
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@Fastbikkel absolutely!
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@Fastbikkel In my opinion here's the reason Farage has no principles The standard monthly payment for all MEPs is 7,957 euros (£6,537). It is roughly on a par with a British MP's salary and that doesn't include allowances! The only time I will likely vote is when the person I vote for receives the same wage as me!
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@loulou6760 i don't read newspapers as they're all rubbish - i only used the article to highlight my point about brexit - I've never voted in my life and want it to remain that way!
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@TonyFisherPuzzles Tony! Did you read the bit in my comments when I stated the entire system needs changing not just the politicians? Clearly not! Voting doesn't change anything! Come May elections, Farage will again stand to be MEP I'd imagine (although unconfirmed) - the guy who doesn't want to be in Europe but has been more than happy to have received nearly a million quid from them since 1999? The logic is insane! Just accept it Tony, it's a sh@t system and that's why I don't vote!!
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@TonyFisherPuzzles one last thing - if you come to vote at the European elections for your Brexit candidate in May, remember you're supporting Britain's membership in the EU! Can you not see the insanity of the system that you support?
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@MrDaiseymay Wow Phil, you're one unhappy chappy. What's your beef?
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Quote - MP's must represent their constituents wishes. Absolute rubbish - MP's work for the business of UK plc chaired by Liz, it's all about the money!!! Constituents don't pay MP's wages, the Queen's Government does!! How loyal are you to your employer?
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@Lady on google should you not be asking who actually owns the money we use? I don't own any money! None of it is truly MINE! If I had money of my OWN nobody would trade with me! The money in my bank account isn't MY money - the money is OWNED by the crown estate aka UK Plc. It's the business's money and the business determines how much we all get! In this respect, you could also ask who owns the Bank of England. Politics as a right arm of the business is a load of BS and I can't understand why people vote when it's always business as usual!
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@Lady on google Comes from the Bank of England.
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@Lady on google How does the money get where?
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@Lady on google if you mean the Bank of England - they print or make it!
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@Lady on google quote - who pays our government? Us. ooohh NO NO NO! your logic is ill-founded. What you are stating is similar to stating that if you worked in a shop then the customers pay your wages. But in reality they don't as the employer has that responsibility and the money to pay your wages can come from somewhere else! Would you take the customers to court if your employer doesn't pay yur wages? have you signed a contract with your MP stating you'll contribute to their salaries? Did you agree to the recent £2,000 pay increase they were given? Absolutely not! You really need to get your head out of the clouds as just because you give back some of the money that is given to you doesn't mean that money lines the pockets of MPs! Additionally I think you're a little confused as to who's government the british government belongs to? you do realise the government's official title is HM Government - it's not the People's Government of GB is it? The houses of parliament are also classified as a palace! They all belong or are owned by the Crown! The money the UK government spends is THEIR OWN MONEY! In this regard there's no such thing as taxpayer's money because taxpayer's don't own any of the money they use. Taxation merely creates jobs by clawing back the business's own money so people like you and I have very little of it to use!! So who pays the MPs? It's Her Majesty's Government
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@Lady on google I can understand your sentiments but you need to get a grip on reality! How are you going to stop MPs from getting paid? I'd love to know!
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@Lady on google I quite agree with your sentiments in that MPs are useless and the entire system is BS but the BIG PROBLEM is - who's going to replace the MPs once they've been sacked? More numpties will get elected to fill their seats! The entire system is outdated and needs overhaul!
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@Bear hn Absolute RUBBISH - you do realise ALL MPs swear an affirmation or oath of allegiance to the Monarch and NOT the people of this country! The Government is also referred to as HM Government which is associated with HM Forces, HM Prisons, HM Customs & Excise, The Land Registry Office is a Crown Estate owned business, your birth certificate is given to you by the Registrar General who's office is part of HM Passport Office etc etc. You do know what HM and The Crown f*cking means don't you? You're typing bollocks!
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@Bear hn regarding the money - it's not MY money - I just have the priviledge of using it and I can ONLY use that particular money in THIS particular society! It's no good to me if I was in Senegal would it?
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