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  11.  @Mike1Lawless  What nonsense. Something can be personal and social at the same time. And if it's also based on testimonies of dead people then that too can be about both personal choice and public debate. It just means that it affects each person according to their own judgement. OTOH if you believe that murder is wrong that can be both personal and political. And also "religious" to the extent that it affects your beliefs and your "religious" behaviors. The problem here is that Harris commits endless fallacies when he argues that faith is harmful to society and or to persons that believe in an unseen creator that directly or indirectly affects any person's "sense of" morals. And speaking directly to your fallacious claim about "belief does not arise from reasoning' this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Your intuition and psychological reactions can come from many sources both seen and unseen. If you have a reasoned belief in something then that is itself an intellectual exercise. Discussing it is allowing others to debate. Therefore it becomes more "objective" and so forth. You don't actually know what reasoning is. You just got suckered by people like Sam Harris in to making you think arrogant Dunning Kruger "unskilled and unaware" atheists have special cognitive skills to "explain" (but only to fellow travelers) nutritively how everyone else is deluded. Anything that you say about reasoning can be turned back on you. And the only thing that you can do to defend Sam Harris is perhaps correct a misquote or something. LOL.
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  21.  @Mike1Lawless  I notice that you take it for granted, seemingly, that you have some special insight or technique or something for laying out the spectrum of "nutcases" and "extremists" in some kind of objective fashion. From my point of view, it seems to me that you are clearly, way, way more "extreme" than just about everyone I've met. Of course we're not talking about "dangerous extremism" because you're just a nameless Internet troll. But as a...I don't know...a "virtual voice of reason" you're clearly as nutty as they get. You must know this. In any case, even if you don't, you at least must realize that you've offered nothing in the way of "enlightenment" of any kind. And the simple reason is that you're here to defend kooky nihilists that have no comments at all that would help the readers and listeners come up with "Reasonable Ethics" arguments or whatever. The hilarious thing about Sam Harris is that if he is taken down the road to mention anything at all about "ethics" he pretty much agrees with standard morality as taught by Christians and Jews for thousands of years but at the same time bloviates like you do about how "faith" is contrary to "reason" and therefore against "Reasonable Ethics" arguments. About the only thing I can see that would be different is that as an atheist he has to characterize gays and all sexual deviants as victims of "Theistic" ethics. He doesn't understand why a society would "rationally" want to disparage "proud" homosexuals and people that sleep around and promote abortions. And just categorically disparaging "extremism" without any kind of rational, usable definition is much worse than what religious zealots do. At least religious zealot reference a canon of some kind and then you can engage in debates from that point of view. It's much more complicated than you seem to think it is. You've never had any sense that you had anything at stake by just playing around with these nihilistic, brain dead philosophies. The only one worse than Sam Harris is Noam Chomsky. Both have created personality cults. And neither leads anyone in any kind of useful direction. I won't call them "extremists" because that's a stupid label. I think you're talking about "radicals" that expect to ignite "social" (and or political) change with their theories that they imply should be forced on others. I know lots of secular politicians that preach much worse. And those "secular" politicians that preach worse garbage are usually from the Political Identity cult where they basically demonstrate that they only join a given religious organization because it's socially and politically expedient. And the most dangerous thing about atheist radicals is that they try to do everything that they can to prove there is no God above them to judge. The only thing they have to do to avoid accountability for anything is make sure no living person can testify against whatever radical thing they want to do to reach their Utopian political goals.
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