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Comments by "Ronin Dave" (@RoninDave) on "Charlie Hebdo & Texas Cartoon Contest Differ In A Hugely Important Way" video.
Even with Hebdo coming out and saying there is no connection between their drawings and Geller's contest, the anti-muslim brigade here attacks with self-righteous fury because nuance is utterly lost on them (as are many other vocabulary words).
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valgehiir no there isn't as he said they make political commentary with the cartoons. They are not inciting and insulting for the simplistic sake of inciting and insulting as hate group leader Pamela Geller is.
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valgehiir incredible rebuttal
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YoungerBrother Wakeup they've plenty of cartoons aimed at many whereas Geller's group is solely against muslims
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HyperOpinionated spot on! except for everything you just wrote because you obviously didn't pay attention
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valgehiir so I should bow to popular opinion just because it is popular? Is that your argument?
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HyperOpinionated I suggest you clean out your ears then
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***** put a sock in it, poky. I am not blaming the victim neither are TYT or Hebdo. It's just that you idiots can't understand nuance due to your tender mental age of 15. Geller has all the right to be an offensive racist and others have the right to call her out as such. I don't support the gunmen and I'm glad they are dead without having killed anyone.
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PitchBlackFox and the invasion of Iraq has killed far more than islamic terrorism ever has
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PitchBlackFox the Syrian civil war is not terrorism - it's a civil war in which acts of terrorism has happened but does not mean the entire ware itself. And you miss the point (no surprise) that our meddling caused not only those deaths but the rise of ISIS as well so indirectly we are responsible for those deaths as well. Actions have consequences something which people like you fail to comprehend.
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PitchBlackFox I didn't say Iraq War was terrorism but that our war caused more death than actual islamic terrorism and we are supposed to be civilized. To top it off it was an illegal war and occupation to begin with. We went in on very little evidence and as a result caused all those deaths and sowed the seeds for ISIS to emerge. The Hebdo attackers started down their long path in response to our invasion of Iraq. Al Queda became an anti-american force after the first Gulf War when US troops were quartered in Arabia. Our short-sightedness and greed for oil continually gets us and others into these troubles.
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PitchBlackFox shifting the goal posts doesn't change what I said. - "and we are supposed to be civilized." compared to the people walking into schools killing children or shooting up news agents or aiming for civilians with suicide bombs we are civilized" - So we aren't suppose to hold ourselves to a higher standard? People like you are dangerous because your ignorant mindset would have us doing just as equally terrible things justifying it by saying "oh, but they're worse!" But I forget we have done equally as bad in torturing people in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo while dropping bombs and drones that have killed more civilians than militants.
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PitchBlackFox AIM? Anyway despite our feeling bad we sure do kill a fuck of a lot of civilians thus creating more enemies while we shove hummus up prisoners' rectums.
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PitchBlackFox and drone strikes create more enemies and by many of the inhabitants are seen as tools of terror. So hummus rape isn't as bad because they do worse? Your standards are pretty damn low.
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PitchBlackFox first clean your house before you tell others their's is dirty. You'll excuse me if I think we should actually live up to the principles we profess to believe in.
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PitchBlackFox only in your mind because you refuse to deal with context. Realizing that we need to change our approach since what we have been doing hasn't worked is sensible.
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PitchBlackFox no, we must acknowledge our part in that and not just pin it all on them. Until we accept personal responsibility and understand the context in which these terrorists are coming from we will continue to cause more problems and create more enemies.
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PitchBlackFox we know the terrorists are doing terrorism hence why they called terrorists. What we need to understand and refuse to do is understand the context in which they justify their actions. It's called strategy. To defeat your enemy you have to understand them and yourself.
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PitchBlackFox I agree with their complaint but not the method they respond with. We did invade Iraq illegally and occupied it while private mercenary contractors ran wild all over the place. Neither ISIS or Al Queda just popped out of the ground one day because they had a fire and brimstone Koranic sunday school sermon one day.
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PitchBlackFox uh, no we weren't more oppressive to the Japanese after WWII. You're showing your historical ignorance again. And you're acting like all muslims are the same again equating separate actions and individuals as representative as a whole.
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PitchBlackFox this isn't about Japanese. You have to look at each situation by the circumstances and not simple surface observations. And you're acting as though Islam is the only thing that has affect on the terrorists and not the circumstances surrounding them.
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PitchBlackFox to understand boko haram you need to look at the situation in nigeria but you'd rather just lazily blame Islam and call it a day.
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PitchBlackFox islam has it's part but it's not the whole. It's insulting to 1.5 billion to say their faith is wrong and responsible for the terrorists whom many are currently fighting and dying against.
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PitchBlackFox but that is all you keep going back to which says more about your real intent
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PitchBlackFox are you just going to continue this petty back and forth bickering? It's boring. We are not going to agree so deal with it.
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SlayHumanity Then why does Hebdo deny a connection? You're deliberately missing the point they were making about free speech. Hebdo and the Danish Posten don't specifically target one group like Geller's does. Geller's group is a hate group. It's understandable Hebdo doesn't want to be lumped in with them.
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