Comments by "Ronin Dave" (@RoninDave) on "Star Trek: Into Darkness is a Terrible Movie" video.

JJ is good at fooling people with surface level gloss that hits the nostalgic vibe but it rarely stays in the memory unlike the original work he copies. I liked both the first Trek and Star Wars film at first but over time (a short time) they faded and the flaws became glaring and unavoidable. The biggest flaws are how hollow and forced everything is - Spock&Kirk's friendship, Rey being a Force expert, very little character interaction in either film to build them into memorable characters, pointless scenes shoved in for fan service like Kobayashi Maru or the mcguffin map to Luke that mirrors the Death Star plans of IV but makes no sense in a universe with hyperspeed. People thinking he will save Star Wars are out of their minds because he set up the new series on such flimsy ground that it was bound to fail as the reboot Star Trek franchise has.
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It was yet another sign how the new series completely missed the point of the source it was shamelessly ripping off. In the original, the shout served two purposes - 1) it was from Kirk who had a history with Khan and it was done in reaction to being taunted by Khan for leaving him stranded as Khan had been stranded and 2) it was also a ruse since Kirk knew the Enterprise was poised to pick them up. Even as a ruse, the shout had meaning as Kirk had every reason to be angry and it was a good shout. It became so memorable that it was referenced in so many parodies over the years. In Nu-Trek, the KHAAAANNN!!! is shouted by a character who doesn't have a history with Khan. Nu-Khan had killed Pike, Kirk's mentor and Marcus whom Kirk had more of a relationship with both as a former friend and foe. Having Spock shout "KHAAAAN!!" at Kirk's death was practically meaningless as Kirk had died indirectly of Khan's actions, a Khan who had been an ally 10 minutes ago and who had no real reason to personally dislike Kirk or Spock. There was hardly any connection between him and the other characters of Nu-Trek. The only reason that scream along with the death (that was reversed 10 minutes later) was in the film was for pathetic fan service of two iconic moments from the original but stripped completely of their gravitas and meaning.
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When you promote a cadet who clearly cheated on an important test to captain of his own starship you get an inexperienced immature buffoon that gets everybody killed. That was Nu-Trek's message right? In Into Darkness, he loses a lot of his crew to Marcus and Khan before Khan crashes into San Francisco killing tens of thousands of people. In the third film, he lost his entire ship to a trap. And all of this was during his 5-year mission, the beginning of his starship captain career. How has Nu-Kirk not been court-martialed and thrown into prison?
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It's simple - it's gloss vs substance. Wrath of Khan deals with age and revenge. You don't have to have seen the original appearance of Khan to understand his character - he was an old foe of Kirk's from the past blaming him for his miserable condition. Kirk is dealing with his age and boring new position then he has to face a mistake from his past when he forgot about Khan and his people. A mistake that leads to the death of an old friend. What does Into Darkness deal with? Kirk facing off against a thawed out Hitler he doesn't know to fight another bad guy who Frosty Hitler kills then Popsicle Hitler becomes the main bad guy with his brilliant plan to shoot missiles at the Enterprise. What could have been an interesting movie in itself - the direction and destiny of Star Fleet: do they pursue science or war? - becomes sidelined by a hacky reboot of Wrath of Khan without any of the elements that made the original so compelling.
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@cyrusthagreat6649 Beyond wasn't bad as Darkness was in terms of convoluted illogical storytelling but it was a largely forgettable film in my opinion. You have a villain whose motivations are vague and of course he wants to blow up the galaxy or some shit. Everyone I saw it with has forgotten they ever saw it.
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