Comments by "Ronin Dave" (@RoninDave) on "12-Year-Old Charged as Adult for Murder; Stabbed 9-Year-Old to Death" video.

So you're old enough now to be tried as an adult at 12 but you can't drive till you're 16, can't vote till you're 18, and can't buy a beer until you're 21. Anyone else see a problem with this?
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David Pakman Show I guess it's logical if you invest in prisons-for-profit in that those who break laws under 18/21 will serve some kind of hard time and with that there comes the hope (of the investor) that a number of those individuals will go on to become professional prisoners in their (actual) adult life.
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no one is defending the murderer for murdering, conservatard. It is questioning the sentencing someone who is biologically a child as an adult.
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fightttttt does a 12 year old fully understand the consequences and ramifications of their actions? When people are not considered emotionally and mentally competent enough to work, vote, or buy drinks and smoke under 16/18/21 you expect them to be on par with adults when it comes to crime? How does charging a 12 year old as an adult help anyone?
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fightttttt and guess who'd be going to jail next? This may surprise you but we are not Saudi Arabia nor the Middle Ages. While you might be comfortable in such places and times, the rest of society is not.
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fightttttt I did not say anything about revenge being middle eastern. I realize I should have connected the dots for the like of you. We do not have the same justice system as Saudi Arabia nor that of the Middle Ages where and when children were punished and executed. Our justice system recognizes (though not always as in this case) a varying degree of intent, culpability, and mental states when determining sentencing. This is why there is no just "murder" charge and conviction. Instead we have 1st degree, 2nd degree, manslaughter, etc... You would have us lopping off hands in the market and beheadings on Fridays. We've moved on. Sorry that you apparently didn't get the memo parchment.
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ThePopularDelusion "It helps SOCIETY to lock up this "12 year old"." Did I say anything about not locking him up? No, so set fire to your strawman, a thing that a Class A idiot would construct.
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***** It's still an assumption and you are the one who has to support your claim rather than me looking it up. Do you not understand the simple concept of an argument. And it's not my fault you fail to understand the concept of the word "or" as I wrote charging a 12 year old as an adult OR botching an execution OR executing someone with a 60 level IQ (as has been done in Texas) does nothing but make us look backward and barbaric.
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fightttttt no, it's people like you who don't get it who continue to make the US a laughingstock by making us look backward and primitive. Might as well bring back public hangings.
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***** just because people aren't screaming for the kid's head does not mean they sympathize with him so you can drop that little canard now. It's the same when an execution is botched. We are not sympathizing with the murderer and/or condoning their deed. It's the principle of the matter. This something you vengeance-seekers continually fail to understand. Charging a 12 year old as an adult or botching an execution resulting in a constitution-violating punishment or executing someone with 60 level IQ serves little purpose except to make our society appear backwards and barbaric.
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***** "Trying him as a minor would almost assuredly see him out on the streets killing by the age of 21." Assumption. "You also make the assumption that a 12 year old has an IQ of 60." No, you're assuming I was making an assumption that a 12 year old has an IQ of 60 because apparently you don't understand the concept of "or" or that Texas has executed criminals with that level of IQ.
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***** "When people live and act as barbarians, they are treated as such." Again, you miss the point - continually. This is not about the criminal but the society. You say you are about vengeance but that is what you keep coming back to. How a society deals with its criminals is an important aspect of that society's progress and civilization. We are about the only the first world country that imprisons and executes criminals at such high numbers. That doesn't say much about us as a society that we have a larger prison population than just about anywhere else. A 12 year old is not an adult neither emotionally or biologically or societally. Charging a 12 year old as an adult even for a heinous crime like murder makes us look like we only a step away from bringing back public hangings and the stocks. You may like the Middle Ages but many of us would rather move forward not backwards.
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Grendel Wolf executing a 12 year old? Maybe that's how they do things where you are from back in the Dark Ages but we have a little more light in the here and now.
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