Comments by "MSD Group" (@MSDGroup-ez6zk) on "Why is Jokowi’s wife cast as a villain over son’s Indonesian vice-presidential run?" video.

Don't create any hoax. The Indonesian constitution Guarentees every Indonesian to elect and be elected. The Constitution judges have argument that the age restrictions on election is against this constitution. However all Jokowi's political haters are mainly graduated from the USA universities such as Amin Rais, the father of reformation movement got scholarship from Fullbright foundation. Jimly Ashidiqie was graduated from Harvard Law school. He is the head of MKMK who fired all constitutions judges who made this court decision.
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No. Indonesia curent president has thought the world will be balanced if there is geopolitic. Thus he prefers to joint China silk road initiative. He learnt from Saddam and Gaddafi who were killed by the USA when they wanted to use Euro to sell all their oil instead of using USD. China is a veto right holder. If China is strong , so is Russia. Both of them are having the UN veto right. Jokowi is also the master mind behind the global dedolarisation. He uses a curency swap and local currencies to avoid being tracked by the Fed thanks to the SWiFT codes. If this happens a similar condition that Eueo has experienced when the world at suddent swing its transactions on USD to Euro may occur. That's why at any cost Jokowi should be eliminated and most Indonesians political leaders who hate Jokowi are graduated from the USA Universities. Jokowi choice is understandable as Indonesia went bankrupt in 1998 when all Indonesia economy ministers in Soeharto era were graduated either from Harvard University or Barkeley University, leaders universities at that time for economy matters. 2nd is why the USD has been manipulated 2400x since the first Indonesia president Soekarno's step down in 1969. FYI, in 1969 1 USD = Rp 7.5, in 1997 - 1 USD = Rp 2000 and when Soros came in 1998 1 USD = Rp 16,800. The effect of USD manipulation is so massive because it allows the USA to buy puppets in Indonesia cheaper and big quantities. It allows the USA to buy a law like when Freeport McMoran wanted to extend its right to mine Papua forever when all parliement members created a mining law in Soeharto era when Ginanjar Kartasasmita was the Indonesian mining ministry. It allows the USA gain power on negotiation when Indonesia couldn't afford to pay its USD debts like it happened in 1998. When Soros attacked Indonesia US denominated debts were 2400 times more expensive in Rp overnight. Thus at time Indonesia sought help from The IMF that resulted Indoneisa has an obligation to buy soy beans from the USA forever, etc
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@hazamyuncle6784 UUD itu sbg hukum tertinggi di Indo. UUD di amandement beberapa kali atas initiatif Amin Rais, jebolan Fullbright foundation. Jadi tanya ke dia kenapa dia buat begitu.
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@or6144 see the decisions that the Indonesia Constitutional Court has made. Their decisions have cancelled any Indonesian laws that forbid collusion, nepotism and dynasty politics. Remember, the 1945 amended constitutional law has guaranteed this court to create any law and its decision cannot be cancelled and everyone including the government, government body and president follow through with its law decisions. So until the end of the world, Indonesia will not have any laws that can forbid any collusion, nepotism and political dynasty to have happened in Indonesia.
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All political leaders who do not like Jokowi were graduated from USA Universities such as Anies Baswedan the Indonesia president curent candidate who his master and doctorate degree funded by Fullbright foundation. Jimly ashidiqie, Amin Rais, the former Indonesia president Soesilo Bambang Yudhoyono and his son AHY, Indonesia economist Faisal Basri, a former Jokowi's ministry Rizal Ramly who his master degree education was funded by Ford Foundation, Soedirman Said who was also Jokowi's ex minister who his education was funded by the US foundation, ex Indonesia Constitution court chaiman Agus Rahardjo also gradutaed from the US University etc. The funy thing was all Indonesia economic ministers in Soeharto' era were graduated from either Harvard University or Barkeley University and in 1998 Indonesia went bankrupt. So you can see which country has an interest on Indonesia presidential election this time.
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well this gossip was made mostly by Indonesian politicL leaders who studied at USA University such as Jimly ashidiqie who graduated from Hatvard Law University, Amin Rais and Anies Baswedan who their master and doctoral degrees funded by Fullbright foundation, a former Indoneisa president and his son SBY and AHY also graduated from a US education provider, Sudirman Said who was Jokowi ex minister got scholarship from the US University, an Indonesian economist Faisal Basri was graduated from a US University, etc. This is in line with what Putin has said that most rebellions on earth are graduated from USA universities.
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@gandisdisgandis9557 As per my comment to rocco, see what Adnan Buyung has said to SBY's nepotism. I dont think Buyung did not know what he said.
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@TitienVivo-pv9rb Saya juga nyata kok. Ente mau beruba tapi MK sdh tetapkan kebijakan lalu ente mau apa kecuali UUD Amandement buatan Amin Rais di ganti? UUD 45 amandement buatan Amin Rais kan sebutin kalau tap MK itu gak bisa di ganggu gugat dan bersifat mengikat? Nah Waktu Amin buat ini UU apa otaknya gak di pakai? Itulah kenapa SBY contohkan politik dinasti dgn angkat anaknya jadi ketua partai dan anggota DPR. Hal yg sama di tiru Amin Rais. Anak anggota DPR dan menantu jadi ketua partai.
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@shavedgragas9904 Anies tiap kali ngomong dgn TV asing selalu sebut politik identitas sbg jualannya. Bisa pindah tuh timur tengah ke Indo kalau dia menang
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@djun7970 Indonesia 1945 Constitution law is the paramount of any laws in Indonesia. Hence all laws should not be against this constitutional law. That law has been amended many times. The mastermind of this amendment law was Amin Rais, the father of the reformation movement. He got a scholarship from the Fullbright Foundation. In short, the law stated that any Indonesian has the right to elect and be elected. The law also guaranteed that any decisions made by the Constitutional Court cannot be changed and anyone including the government bodies should follow through. Historically, the Indonesia Constitutional Court has made two unusual decisions. The first unusual decision was when Patrialis Akbar, a National Mandate party member (PAN) from west Sumatra (This province was known for supporting Islamist fundamental movements since the Soekarno era) who also was a constitutional court made a decision to cancel any laws related to nepotism and collusion. The 2nd unusual decision was recently this court also cancelled any laws that ruled out dynasty politics. So until the end of the world, it will be illegal to have laws that manage the forbidden collusion, nepotism and dynasty politics. The funny thing is these decisions are against the People Consultative Assembly of Republic Indonesia (MPR) rule as stated on Tap MPR no XI that was made in 1999. This is evidence that any USA graduate has no competence to change anything. If the Indonesian constitutional law doesn't guarantee that the constitutional court decision can be amended, no one can do corruption, collusion and nepotism in Indonesia. Thus, this is why Amin Rais, the Indonesian reformation movement leader has elected his three sons to sit as the Indonesian parliament members. This is also the reason why SBY, the former Indonesian president who graduated from the US military education has elected his 15 family members as Indonesian parliament members, 3 brothers-in-law as the Indonesian state bank BNI, the chief of Indonesia special force and his party leader. This is also the reason why Megawati has elected her daughter as a member of Indonesia's house representative through his party, Indonesia's Democratic of Struggle Party (PDIP) This is also the reason why Anies Baswedan who has two scholarships from the Fullbright Foundation has elected his cronies Bambang Widjoyanto as the chief of the Jakarta Governor team for accelerated development (TGUPP) and Geiz Khalifah as the Jakarta province-owned enterprise Ancol's commissioner. FYI, Bambang Widjoyanto was the former price chairman of Indonesia's Corruption eradication in the SBY regime. Geiz was Anies Baswedan's campaign supporter in the Jakarta governor election. who is from the same ethnicity as Anies Baswedan.
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@kuncoro1 LOL they can say anything but if you see the effect of their decisions, as you can see no one in Indonesia has been sent to jail due to Collusion nor nepotism and due to their decisions no ex-president of Indonesia were sent to jail because of corruption, collusion and nepotism including Soeharto. This is due to the amended constitution law made by Amin Rais, the guy who received a scholarship from Fullbright foundation. You can see how the constitutional court decision has forbid the country's attorney to investigate any cases related to collusion and nepotism as the judges argues that all those words have same meaning with corruption. That's why no one in Indonesia has been sent to jail for collusion and nepotism. You can see how the constitutional court cancelled any laws related to political dynasties have made everyone including President SBY and the father or reformation movement to have political Dynasties. One of the reason the constitutional court is all those political Dynasties laws are against the UN human rights. Gees since when was Indonesia paramount law the UN law? So, what is the point for doing anti-corruption, collusion and nepotism if the system is failure due to the 1945 amended constitution law? Those people who did corruption, collusion and nepotism mostly are graduated from USA universities such as Anies who appointed his cronies, Gaez Khalifah to be local government owned enterprise called Ancol. SBY has appointed 14 family members as candidates of Indonesia parliament members and appointed a brother-in-law as the commissioner of Indonesia state owned bank called BNI and the chairman of Indonesia special task troops. Amin Rais also appointed his three soons as Indonesia parliament members and the chairman of Ummah party. And what are differences between reformation era and Soeharto era? Soeharto was sacked because of one of the reasons was he appointed his crony who was a Chinese to be an Indonesia ministry of trade and industry as well as he appointed his daughter to be a social ministry. This reminds me when Shah Iran was allowed to corrupt in Iran by Nixon.
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@AndriYanto-x2h bro, Gibran's uncle has used his right when one has asked if an individual under 40 could become a leader. He has his view that one under 40 would be a better leader if he has experience as a regional head. He did not mention his nephew's name there. So what is wrong with that decision and what is different from what SBY has done by appointing his brother-in-law as the CEO of a state-owned bank, BNI and what is different from what Amin Rais did by appointing his three children to be members of the Indonesia parliament? However, this decision should be valid if that person has won the election. So there is no nepotism on this matter compared to what has happened to Anies' cronies such as Gaez Khalifah. He was appointed by some people who were elected by Aneis Baswedan, without any people's voice. This is what Amin Rias has done after appointing his three children to be Indonesian parliament members. He originally appointed 4 children but only 3 were elected and won the elections. it would be best if you blamed Amin Rais who Amended Indonesia's basic law (UUD 45). Because of him, Constitutional court law was made. He only graduated with a master's degree certificate from Fullbright but had no experience creating any laws in the USA after he finished studying in the USA. Many Constitutional court decisions are killing anti-corruption, collusion and nepotism movements that cannot be fixed due to the amended Indonesia's basic law, thanks to Amin Rais. For example, the Constitutional court decision on Indonesia's attorney general law. They rejected the wording of collusion and nepotism in that law. The result of their decision is that Indonesian attorney Generals would not be able to bring people who have committed collusion and nepotism to jail forever. That's why no one has been sent to jail because of collusion and nepotism. That's why SBY appointed his brother-in-law as the CEO of a state-owned bank, BNI for Cashcow before he was elected as Indonesia president. So did Anies Baswedan who appointed his crony, Gaez Khalifah as the commissioner of a local government-owned company, Ancol., as a cash cow before this coming presidential election. The constitutional court also cancelled any laws related to dynasty politics. That's why Amin Rais can appoint his sons as Indonesian parliament members and his son-in-law as the head of the Ummah party. Adnan Buyung Nasution once declared nepotism and collusion when SBY appointed his son to be the leader of the democratic party. So this declaration should apply to Amin Rais too. If a general and the head of the reform movement have done nepotism, corruption and collusion, why can't other people do the same things as those people? Both of those people have graduated from the USA universities and both are Muslims.
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@itssovia8817 Please read the Constitutional court decisions. That's why I am laughing at loud when Amin was declared as a father of reformation movements. LOL. He has done corruption, collusion and nepotism. Now you are discussing about Jokowi. LOL. In Singapore, LKY has appointed his son as the current PM. Is he doing nepotism? No. So Jokowi has done a similar thing to what LKY did. Lee Hsien Loong was a career PM who climbed up from the bottom and was elected by his people. So what is wrong with Jokowi's son? So does Trump who appointed out his two children and President JFK who has appointed out his brother, Bobby Kennedy as the US attorney general. I know the USA dislikes Jokowi. That's why most of his counter parts mostly graduated from the USA like Rizal Ramli, SBY & AHY, Anies Baswedan etc.
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@itssovia8817 bro, the Constitutional Court is an independent body. Your group asked people to be positive when Anies appointed the ex-vice president of Indonesia's corruption eradication commission without any election, Bambang Widjoyanto. to sit as the head of the Jakarta governor team for accelerated development. Also, Anies's cousin was the top member of Indonesia's corruption eradication commission who appointed himself as the only person who supervised Anies Baswedan, his cousin as the governor of Jakarta. This is corruption. That's why he was sacked.
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@itssovia8817 Planga plongo? who can force the USA to step down as the only superpower in the world? Anies Baswedan? Nope, only Jokowi.
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@itssovia8817 wkwkwk lu lihat gak bambang widjoyanto teriak2 kalau Anies kasusnya di lanjutkan KPK? Santai saja ketua KPK kemarin itu setor dana hasil rampasan korupsi terkecil di bandingkan polisi dan kejaksaan. jadi sdh pasti di copot. era KPK taliban, uang yg di rampas KPK taliban cuma Rp 1.2 T tapi biaya ngidupin mereka Rp 800 milyar setahun. Padahal yg di korupsi koruptor itu setahun Rp 540 T setahun dgn estimasi yg di korup itu 30% dari APBN yg berjumlah Rp 1800T setahun. lu bisa lihat yah karya KPK taliban? cuma ngasilin Rp 1.2 T tapi teriak2 paling hebat sedunia dan sogok LSM yg buat daftar peringkat korupsi sedunia termasuk Indonesia. KPK taliban cuma bisa dpt Rp 1.2 T dari target Rp 540 T setahun atau cuma 2% dari target. Lah yg begini kok di banggain?
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@itssovia8817 hahah surplus tapi ninggalin hutang yg harus di tanggung negara? Sehat situ? Audit pun yg mengaudit kroninya Anies lagi persis spt assesment yg di lakukan utk kroni dia Gaez Khalifah yg jadi komisaris Ancol utk sapi perah Anies utk pilpres 2024. Ingat loh Anies sdh 3 kali ketahuan mau korupsi dan 2 kali diminta kembalikan duitnya. nah ini jadi presiden? Kalau dia jadi presiden, siapa yg berani tagih duit yg di korupsi dia?
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@AndriYanto-x2h there is no violation on ethics as it becomes unwritten norm as Amin Rais has given an example due to the constitutional court decision on SBY era that cancelled any laws with regards to collusion and Nepotism. Thus Giibran will go through an election just like Amin Rais did to his four children. Ethics Indonesia has at the moment is based in what American puppets said. For example 1. The constitutional court has canceled wording of collusion and nepotism in the attorney general law. The effect is until the end of the world Indonesia government will never and never bring people who commit collusion and nepotism to the jail. Funy thing is all Indonesians who graduated in the USA universities are silent on this matter. This decision was made during SBY era by the constitutional court judge from Amin Rais party, PAN. Why were all Indonesians law practitioners who graduated from USA universities silent including from non government organizations when this decision has been made by the constitutional court? where was the voice of KPK Taliban like Agus Raharjo who graduated from the US university? That's why SBY, Amin Rais, Aniws Baswedan, etc who opposed to Jokowi have done these collusion and nepotism. FYI Amin Rais graduated from Fullbright without any experiences in making laws. He has corrupted but he didn't want to return the money nor go to jail as he is a member of Indonesia parliament member. He has also made his 4 children to be members of Indonesia parliament. The worst one was he Amanded the Indonesia basic law that allowed the constitutional court to make controversial court decisions without any ring fencing to protect anti corruption, collusion and nepotism. He graduated from a US University, hence it is a common practice for any law makers to make a ring fencing that protects an ideology like anti corruption, collusion and nepotism. 2. The constitutional court also has made a controversial law that cancelled any practice of dynasties politics. Again this decision if I am not mistaken has happened during SBy era. Why all American graduated law practitioners like Jimly Ashidiqie who graduated from Harvard uni and at SBY side was silent on this matter? 3. It is common in many countries such as the USA, the Philippines, Singapore etc to practice collusion and nepotism like this but why all American universities graduationed spoke when this case has happened to Indonesia during Jokowi but they were silent when this happened in SBY Era?
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@AndriYanto-x2h as I said, there is no issue on ethic as the constitutional court has cancelled any laws related to collusion and nepotism in the Attorney general law that was made during SBy era. When this happened why Jimly did not fired all judges who made this decision? Some of the judges like Patrialis Akbar was die hard supporter of SBY. He was a politician from PAN west Sumatra. Was it because Patrialis supporter of SBy who also graduated from the USA and Jimly was also graduated from the USA and SBY supporter? Why didn't all USA universities graduates amend basic law so there is a fencing that forbid any judges in the constitutional court to make controversial decisions similar like this in the future? What was the reason Jimly ashidiqie and his cronies has closed eyes on this practice? Of course if you see the history of the USA on forcing down a regime in any country it dislikes is through letting a regime to corrupt such as what Soeharto did but it will bark if the opposite side did that as you can see to China now.
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Remember all economic ministers in Soeharto era graduated from either Harvard or Barkeley Universities and in 1998, Indonesia went bankrupt. That's why I always believe all Indonesia students who graduated from the USA are the USA puppets.
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@AndriYanto-x2h well if they did and nothing has happened, so it will be new norm. If a new president send an ex president to a jail, other ex presidents will use their powers to force that president to step down. That's what Gus Dur has experienced.
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