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LOL if the USA invests in Indonesia, it makes Indonesia poorer in many ways. For example, the USA keeps saying cheaper currency will push the export higher. The fact cheaper currency will benefit the USA economy more than it benefit to Indonesia.
For example, in 1997, the Indonesia debts in 1997 were USD 105 billion. In 1997, 1 USD = Rp 2,000. Thus Indonesia debts were USD 105 billion x Rp 2,000 = Rp 210 trillion. When Soros came in 1998, 1 USD = Rp 16.800. Indonesia debts thanks to the IMF have risen from USD 105 billion into USD 135 billion. Thus total Indonesia debts were USD 125 billion x Rp 16,800 = Rp 2,100 trillion in one night.
Due to the US manipulation, Indonesia debts have risen.
Rp 210 trillion -------------------> Rp 2100 trillion
This is Rp 2100 trillion / Rp 210 trillion = 10x
So basically Indonesia has been made poorer 10x than in 1997.
Imagine if the USD is manipulated into 1 USD = Rp 2,000 trillion?
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@mastertrend4685 LOL if the USA invests in Indonesia, it makes Indonesia poorer in many ways. For example, the USA keeps saying cheaper currency will push the export higher. The fact cheaper currency will benefit the USA economy more than it benefits to Indonesia.
For example, in 1997, the Indonesia debts in 1997 were USD 105 billion. In 1997, 1 USD = Rp 2,000. Thus, Indonesia debts were USD 105 billion x Rp 2,000 = Rp 210 trillion. When Soros came in 1998, 1 USD = Rp 16.800. Indonesia debts thanks to the IMF have risen from USD 105 billion into USD 135 billion. Thus, total Indonesia debts were USD 125 billion x Rp 16,800 = Rp 2,100 trillion in one night.
Due to the US manipulation, Indonesia debts have risen.
Rp 210 trillion -------------------> Rp 2100 trillion
This is Rp 2100 trillion / Rp 210 trillion = 10x
So basically, Indonesia has been made poorer 10x than in 1997.
Imagine if the USD is manipulated into 1 USD = Rp 2,000 trillion?
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@ismailfaturrohman1909 Bukan IMF saja sih bro tapi dari awal emang Amerika sdh petakan dunia termasuk Indonesia dan Indo cuma di jadikan pusat SDA mereka dan pasar, no more than that. Saya lupa judul buku yg dibuat seorang pegawai ASN Amerika. Dan itu bukan terjadi di Indo saja tapi di seluruh non-USA alies.
Contoh.
1 USA-allies currencies
a. UK -1 USD = 1 Pound
b. Europe - 1 USD = 1 euro
c. Jordan, 1 USD = 0.3 Jordan dollar
d. Singapore, 1 USD = 1 Singapore dollar
e. dsb
2. Non-USA allies
a. Iraq, era Saddam, 1 USD = 0.3 Iraqi dinar. Setelah Saddam di bunuh sampai sekarang 1 USD = 1400 dinar
b. Indonesia. Tahun 1969, 1 USD = Rp 7.5. Soros masuk di thn 1998, 1 USD = Rp 16.800.
c. Venezuela, thn 2023, 1USD = 2.722 Bolivar. Sekarang 1 USD = 31 juta Bolivar.
d. Iran, tiap tahun USD di manipulasi 2x lipat.
e. dsb
Bisa di lihat yah gimana dgn cuma tinta dan kertas, Amerika bisa dpt apapun di dunia dgn harga nyaris gratis.
Itulah kenapa dgn tinta dan kertas utk cetak uang, Amerika bisa punya 700 pangkalan militer di dunia. Saya anjurkan anda tonton wawancara Aljazeera dgn Prof Richard Woff gimana Amerika bisa super power spt sekarang terutama setelah Arab Saudi itu tanda tangan kontrak petrodollar.
Coba buka data GDP per capita bank dunia sejak 1967 sampai sekarang lalu bandingkan GDP per capita Indonesia dgn Amerika. DI situ terlihat jelas sekali tiap kali GDP Indoneisa naik, Amerika pasti jegal Indonesia. GDP Amerika naik itu biasanya ada perang di belakangnya. Dan itu gak cuma terjadi di Indo tapi di seluruh negara2 non-USA allies. Contoh setelah menang perang di Indo, Timur Tengah, Afghanistan dsb, GDP Amerika biasanya naik tajam.
Dan Amerika spt itu bukan karena tanpa sebab. Amerika itu bekas jajahan Inggris yg mayoritas di isi org2 keturunan mereka. Inggris itu satu2anya negara penjajah yg fokus ke SDA. Kalau tonton BBC berjudul "the British Empire"" dan satu lagi saya lupa judul film dokumenter BBC itu, terlihat jelas Inggris sdh petakan dunia, daerah2 mana saja yg kaya SDA. Dan agar menghasilkan duit, warganya yg nganggur di kirim utk pecah belah negara yg di koloniasasinya spt yg terjd d itimur tengah.
Contoh.
1. Amerika, negara terkaya SDAnya di dunia
2. Kanada, negara terkaya SDAnya no 4 dunia
3. Australia, negara terkaya SDAnya no 8 dunia.
4. Afsel, negara terkaya akan tambang berliannya
5. Timur tengah, regional terkaya akan tambang minyaknya di dunia.
6. dsb.
Indonesia sendiri pernah di samperin Inggris di abad ke 16 tapi mereka gak temukan emas itu.
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Have you seen the whole GDP per capita Journeys in the world bank? Every time Indonesia has increased its GDP dramatically, the USA would do something. 1967-1069, under Soekarno's economy independency program and heavy US embargo, Indonesia economy grew better than the USA in percentage. USA GDP per capita was 97x of Indonesia GDP. Everyone knows that Soekarno was killed. In 1998, USA GDP per capita was 50x Indonesia GDP per capita, then Soros was sent. In 2012, GDP per capita USA was 16x of Indonesia GDP per capita, once again USD was manipulated. Now when USA GDP per capita was 15x than the USA GDP per capita, it was issued that Indonesia has huge debts. In fact, Indonesia debts to GDP is one of the lowest one in the world for large population. However, if Indonesia is the USA allies like the UAE, the USA would stand still.
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@halimmoesa Bro, banyak mata uang negara lain di manipulasi negara maju bro kecuali aliansinya.
Katanya mata uang murah, export naik. Faktanya kalau export SDA dgn harga murah, yg ada deposit minyaknya lebih cepat habis spt yg di alami Indo era Soeharto dgn minyaknya.
Kenapa di manipulasi? Raw materials and production costs
Contoh nih
1. Non USA allies
a. UK - 1 USD = 1 Pound
b. Eropa - 1 USD = 1 Euro
c. Jordan - 1 USD = 0.3 Jordanian dollar
d. Singapore, 1 USD = 1 Singapore dollar
e. etc
2. Non USA allies
a. Irak, era Saddam 1 USD = 0.3 iraqi dinar sekarang 1 USD = 1400 iraqi dinar
b. Indonesia. era BK, 1 USD = Rp 7.5. Thn 1997, 1 USD = Rp 2000, Soros masuk 1 USD = Rp 16.800
c. Vanezuela, 1 USD = 2.722 Venezuelan Bolivar di thn 2022 sekarang 1 USD = 31 juta Bolivar
d. dsb
Contoh efek manipulais USD, jika Freeport gaji saya Rp 10 juta/bulan
a. di thn 1969, 1 USD = Rp 7.5, maka Freeport gaji saya Rp 10 juta/Rp7.5 = USD 1.3 juta/bulan utk gaji Rp 10 juta/bulan saya.
b. Di thn 1997, 1 USD = Rp 2000 maka Freeport gaji saya Rp 10 juta/Rp 2.000 = USD 5.000/bulan utk gaji Rp 10 juta/bulan saya
c. Di thn 1998, 1 USD = Rp 16.800 ketika Soros masuk maka freeport gaji saya Rp 10 juta/Rp 16.800 = USD 595/bulan utk gaji Rp 10 juta/bulan saya.
Bayangkan dgn manipulasi USD, Freeport berhemat USD 1.3 juta/bulan jadi tinggal USD 595/builan utk gaj RP 10 juta/bulan saya.
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@halimmoesa The point is thanks to Swift code where the USA banks in the USA are treated as the backbone of the world banking system and thanks to Breyton Wood where the USD is the only currency, thus many currencies in the world are manipulated by the Fed. Because of this system, Goldman Sachs, one of the owners of the fed knew what month Greek needed USD more than the other 11 months. So did Soros.
For example:
1. USA allies
a. UK, 1 USD = 1 Pound even the Pound was reborn.
b. Europe, 1 USD = 1 Euro
c. Jordan, 1 USD = 0.3 Jordanian Dollar
d. etc
2. Non-USA allies
a. Venezuela, 1 USD = 2,722 Venezuelan Bolivar in 2022 but now 1 USD = 31 million Bolivars
b. Indonesia, in 1969, 1 USD = Rp 7.5. In 1997, 1 USD = Rp 2,000 and in 1998 when Soros came, 1 USD = Rp 16,800
c. Iraq, in Saddam era, 1 USD = 0.3 Iraqi dinar. Now, 1 USD = 1400 dinars.
d. etc
The effect of the USD manipulation is so bad.
Let say Freeport McMoran paid me Rp 10 million/month.
a. In 1969, 1 USD = Rp 7.5, hence Freeport has to prepare Rp 10 million/Rp 7.5 = USD 1.3 million for my Rp 10 million/month salary
b. In 1997, 1 USD = Rp 2,000. Hence Freeport has to prepare Rp 10 million/Rp 2,000 = USD 5,000 per month for my Rp 10 million/month salary.
c. In 1998, when Soros came, 1 USD = Rp 16,800. Hence Freeport has to prepare Rp 10 million/Rp 16,800 = USD 595/month for my Rp 10 million/month salary
You can see by manipulating USD, Freeport can save USD 1.3 million/USD 595 = 99.99% from paying the same amount of salary of RP 10 million.
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@user-se-19x South korea is part of USA allies. Definitely South korea will not be bullied like Indonesia.
For example.
When Soekarno, Indonesia first Indonesia president was coup, David Rockefeller has given Soeharto 9% shares of Freeport Indonesia and 1% to Indonesia government. This share transfer was recorded in Singapore, the cleanest country on earth for anti corruption.
considering Soeharto was
1. Head of Indonesia army
2. head of government body of Golkar, the biggest party on Indonesia parliament at that time.
3. Head of Indonesia where all ministers up to head of village had obligations to obey all Indonesia laws and president executive order.
Freeport earned billions dollars on its net profit, what will be the impact of free shares to the three above points?
Fruthermore, Freeport has asked Soeharto to take 100% of its sales in USD. Thus when Soros came, Indonesia had no USD at all. That's why Rp has plunged from 1 USD = Rp 2000 to 1 USD = Rp 16,800.
The worst one about USD manipulation in Indonesia was total Indonesia debts in 1997 was only USD 366 billion and with 1 USD = Rp 2,000, the total debts in local currency was only Rp 732 trillion.
When Soros came, 1 USD = Rp 16,800. Thus Indonesia total debts of USD 366 billion became
USD 366 billion x Rp 16,800 = Rp 6,148 trillion..
Gees Rp 732 trillion -----> Rp 6,148 trillion overnight?
This is Rp 6,148 trillion / Rp 732 trillioin = 8.4x.
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@user-se-19x South korea is part of USA allies. Definitely South Korea will not be bullied like Indonesia.
For example.
When Soekarno, Indonesia first Indonesia president was coup, David Rockefeller has given Soeharto 9% shares of Freeport Indonesia and 1% to Indonesia government. This share transfer was recorded in Singapore, the cleanest country on earth for anti corruption.
Indonesia has the biggest gold mining in the world called Grasberg.
considering Suharto was
1. Head of Indonesia army
2. head of government body of Golkar, the biggest party on Indonesia parliament at that time.
3. Head of Indonesia where all ministers up to head of village had obligations to obey all Indonesia laws and president executive order.
Freeport earned billions dollars on its net profit, what will be the impact of free shares to the three above points?
Fruthermore, Freeport has asked Soeharto to take 100% of its sales in USD. Thus when Soros came, Indonesia had no USD at all. That's why Rp has plunged from 1 USD = Rp 2000 to 1 USD = Rp 16,800.
The worst one about USD manipulation in Indonesia was total Indonesia debts in 1997 was only USD 366 billion and with 1 USD = Rp 2,000, the total debts in local currency was only Rp 732 trillion.
When Soros came, 1 USD = Rp 16,800. Thus Indonesia total debts of USD 366 billion became
USD 366 billion x Rp 16,800 = Rp 6,148 trillion..
Gees Rp 732 trillion -----> Rp 6,148 trillion overnight?
This is Rp 6,148 trillion / Rp 732 trillioin = 8.4x.
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@jonlbdg that's not the theory but it is reality. Simple question to you, Suharto was announced as a corruptor thanks to Time magazine. The question is how Time magazine knew about all his corruption money all over the world? Soros came in 1998, many Asian currencies dropped significantly. The question is how Soros knew what month Asian countries needed USD more than other 11 months? So did Goldman Sachs towards Greek economy.
Second one is how can you explain below
1. USA allies' currencies
a. UK, 1 USD = 1 Pound.
b. Euro, 1 USD = 1 Euro
c. Jordan, 1 USD = 0.3 Jordan dollar
d, Singapore, 1 USD = 1 Singapore dollar
e. etc
2. Non- USA allies' currencies
a. Irak. When Saddam was alive, 1 USD = 0.3 Iraqi dinar. Now 1 USD = 1400 dinar. The USD has been manipulated 1400 dinar/0.3 dinar = 4,667x
b. Indonesia, In Soekarno era in 1969, 1 USD = Rp 7.5. When Soros came, 1 USD = Rp 16,800. The USD has been manipulated Rp 16800/Rp 7.5 = 2,240x
c. Venezuela, in 2023, 1 USD = 2278 Bolivars. Now 1 USD = 31 million Bolivars. The USD has been manipulated by 31 million/2278 = 16,608x
d. Iran, every year, the USD will be manipulated 2x values than last year.
e. etc
I know this because I almost got a job as tax investigator. You only need type someone's name thus you know where this person money in and out real time.
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