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Comments by "MSD Group" (@MSDGroup-ez6zk) on "How Big are Indonesia's Largest Companies?" video.
2nd question is what was the reason Freeport McMoran gave 9% of its Indonesia subsidiary shares to Soeharto and 1% to Indonesia government in 1969 before Freeport took back those 9% and gave those to Indonesia government in 1998? Considering that Soeharto was 1. The head of Indonesia Army 2. the head of Golkar, the biggest party in Indonesia parliament, DPR, at that time and DPR made laws. 3. The head of country where all ministers until the head of villages are his employees that have obligations to run all laws and the president executive orders without doubts. Freeport Indonesia earned billions USD, please let me know the effect of these 9% gifts to the above 3 points. Was Freeport McMoran guilty to pour its toxic Tailing waste to the only drinking water source for Papua people? Why has this barter between the Indonesia public policies made by Suharto for the Freeport McMoran shares not being claimed as a corruption by the UN or Transparency International? Pfizer has given shares to Trump and Nancy Pelosi, and Trump has appointed Pfizer as the only Covid Vaccine manufacture in the USA to produce vaccines for 1.3 billion people in European and the USA. Why was Suharto alleged for corruption in Freeport Indonesia but not for Trump for Pfizer?
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@bambangbangshu7371 that's not negotiation. Why has Indonesia needed to force sale for lost if the USA can wait thousand years until no one in the world has similar natural resources with it?
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@bambangbangshu7371 Negotiation should be like petrodollar where it was the Saudi initiation. The USA price increased, the petrol price increased, and Saudi has majority of income while Indonesia? only 1% is given and to make it profitable, USD is always being manipulated there.
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@azilahabdulaziz4894 Malaysia population was only 33 billion with oil subsidy while Indonesia population was 277 million with oil subsidy.
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well, which one do you prefer? high tax on oil like the US and its five eyes' nations where the tax is about 50% of oil RRP while Indonesia because of subsidy, you only pay less then USD 2 per liter of oil.
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@JahalGyver Pertamina tinggal tiru PSSI. Beli sumber minyak dunia yg murah sehingga Indonesia jadi pemelik mayoritas minyak dunia lau di tandem dgn pembelian saham di hulu spt Toyota. Mudah buat Pertamina per kaya Indonesia dgn cara itu. Indonesia kuasai hulu ke hilir. Dan itu bisa di percantik dgn pembuatan index spt Brent crude oil index. Tiap kali USD naik, naikan semua harga SDA Indonesia ikuti Petrodollar.
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@rizkyadiyanto7922 justru kemana suara mahasiswa BEM Se Indonesia ketika LSM dan kantor berita main stream se Indo spt Kompas dan Tempo teriak2 ham di timor leste tapi justru Australia kawinkan mata2nya bernama Kristy Sword yg di kenal dgn nama sandi Ruby dgn Xanana Gusmao sehingga SDA Indo di celah Timor seharga USD 40 miilyar jadi milik Australia? wkwkwk udahlah mahasiswa BEM se Indonesia, pulang ke rumah. Jgn sampai rakyat minta pemerintah utk buka rekening bank mahasiswa, keluarga hingga dosen2nya utk cari tau pergerakan uang dari Amerika ke mereka.
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@daviano_R.T. easy bro, ask Indonesians who live overseas. They will tell you the things that you have never heard in home country.
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@sevenheaven5175 ya gak bisa apple to apple lah. Populasi Malaysia cuma 37 juta dan terima subsidi minyak. Indonesia itu 277 juta dan terima subsidi minyak. Dgn pendapatan kotor yg nyaris sama antara pertamina dna petronas, anda bisa lihat mana yg paling besar keuntungannya karena subsidi vs jumlah populasi.
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@suga2351 Indonesia GDP is USD 1.3 Trillion, not 407 billion.
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@buupyboopy9306 not really. Indonesia government is too generous to its people. Petronas has similar income with Indonesia, but it only subsidizes 37 million while Indonesia subsidizes 270 million.
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@jia459 You need to distinguish between freehold, leasehold, unit title and cross lease. These 190 years lands are leasehold lands not freehold lands. Meaning when the lease is expired the land belongs to the country and get all the asset attach on it. While Freehold, everything attaches to the land belong the new owner. well no one can bring lands overseas. Many countries do too for example Australia. The period to lease is depending on the agreement between the lessor and the lessee. Aboriginal lands maximum can be leased for 40 years. In the UK the leasehold period is between 99-125 years. The longest lease that has been recorded in the world is from Ireland, 10 million years. This is is a lease concerning a plot for a sewage tank adjoining Columb Barracks, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath, Republic of Ireland, which was signed on 3 Dec 1868
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@BuffRappa well Goto has made Uber sold all its business in Asia, Australia would not be able to do so. GoTo has introduced a very phenomenal new service method to today, food delivery, considering GoTo was made from a garage with small money.
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@BuffRappa LOL Google has reported huge loss for decades and no one complained. Google reported loss so it could ask government subsidies every time it reported loss on its VAT. When Google reported loss, refund of VAT will be given to Google.
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@BuffRappa Well not all people are not interested in GoTo. Rich people like to buy shares with negative cash flow like Google, Go To etc. let me ask you first, do you want Google, GoTo etc ask highest price on their Apps? in daily lives we deal with hundreds of apps. How much do you have to give up for their profit? Lost is good. It makes everything is affordable.
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@BuffRappa well GoTo can sell high for its apps but are you happy to pay high USD on each apps you use every day?
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@BuffRappa Why this is about you. All high tech IT companies will mostly pursue similar things. This scenario has been prepared by the US allies since 1960. How do I know? When Did you pay tax for buying offshore goods while Google claimed 0% tax on goods sold overseas. Have Many countries receiced tax from Google goods and services? Nope. When Did Google claim profit on its products including YouTube? For you, it may be good pay high fee but not good for someone who has to work for many different computer for the same operator. When suddenly it creases its retail price, the situation will be the same when Microsoft suddenly crashed the other day. That's Why less reliable on apps is the best solution.
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agree like the USA and its allies such as 5 eyes nations that would not open up all their natural resources until nothing left in the world. When it happens, the world has no options to buy whatever the price they sell.
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@endruz72 hahah gak ada apa2nya dgn hutang jepang yg 300% atau hutang Amerika yg naik jadi 123%. Apalagi kalau Indonesia jadi negara cuci uang spt singapura, belanda, Amerika dsb dimana nilai kapitalisasi tax heaven dunia itu USD 30 Trilyun dan Amerika dgn Delawera state kuasai USD 10 Trilyun per Bloomberg. 5% dari USD 30 Trilyun itu sdh USD 1.5 Trilyun yg jika di tambah USD 1.3 Trilyun GDP Indonesia, Indonesia langsung naik jadi posisi 6 dunia. USD 400 milyar hutang itu bisa lunas di bayar dlm hitungan bulan dgn USD 1.5 Trilyun. Dan Indonesia lagi uji coba cuci uang itu, Coba lihat betapa mudah asing beli tanah di Bali, Jakarta, Batam dsb asal duitnya gak di tarik dari Indo selama misal 100 thn?
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@gedecandra7722 Indonesia did reverse engineering like LRT that Indonesia bought from Hyundai South Korea. Indonesia LRT is driverless train nowadays.
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@gedecandra7722 trouble? Dude, Japan High speed train, shinkansen, has reported the world worst accident in world train history. Look at Boeing now. Look at Microsoft that has made the world in trouble after it conducted test on its software. Mistakes made people to learn.
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@endruz72 Mau bagus kaya apa kalau hutang tetap hutang. Kata siapa hutang 300% jepang tdk memberatkan warganya? Emang lu penduduk Jepang atau WNI yg sdh puluhan tahun tinggal di sana? Bayar hutang sdh di bahas kok. Ada banyak caranya. Salah satunya itu cuci uang. Makanya Luhut mati2an lagi godok program companies office utk keluarga2 kaya dunia. Asal tau saja, nilai kapitalisasi cuci uang dunia itu USD 30 Trilyun. USD 10 Trilyun sdh di pegang Amerika tiap tahun terutama dari raja2 arab. Kalau Indonesia bisa kantongi 5% saja itu sdh USD 1.5 Trilyun setahun. Hutang Indo cuma USD 405 milyar. Artinya dgn USD 1.5 Trilyun setahun hutang USD 405 milyar bisa di lunasi dlm waktu 3 bulan saja. Jika USD 1.5 T di tambah dgn GDP Indo yg USD 1.3 T itu sdh totalnya USD 2.8T sdh masuk peringkat 8 dunia. Apalagi kalau uang itu di putar lagi. Cara lain? Ikutin Mahatir, manipulasi USDnya. Kembalikan ke nilai thn 1969 yg mana 1 USD = Rp 7.5 Dan itu yg terjadi di dunia sekarang. Ramai2 dunia gak pakai USD. USD jatuh, otomatis hutang di dunia turun tajam.
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hutang Indonesia cuma 40% bandingkan dgn Amerika yg 123% terhadap GDPnya atau Jepang yg 300% terhadap GDPnya. Anehnya hutang banyak, mata uangnya justru mahal.
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@dwigunarto2091 nurunin USD gak sulit kok. gak usah pakai USD spt yg telah di lakukan Mahathir, turun sendiri USD itu. Hitung saja kalau 1 USD.- Rp 7.5 utk hutang USD 1 juta Dan bandingkan dgn hutang USD 1 juta dgn 1 USD - Rp 2 Trilyun? Dan coba di balik dgn hutang USD 1 juta tp 1 USD turun Dr 1 USD _ Rp 2 Trilyun jadi 1 USD - Rp 3. Kerasa sekali di siksa dgn kurs USD yg di manipulasi Padahal pokok hutangnya nilainya sama.
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@dwigunarto2091 swap currency lah.
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@augustreds4305 apa salahnya mayoritas WNI mau Jokowi spt LKY? Bisa apa barat ketika LKY bersikuku cawe2 utk tetapkan anak2nya jadi pengganti LKY di singapura dan duduki jabatan penting sampai sekarang?
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@multatuli1 hahaha santai saja bro. Tanpa backingan Israel, berapa ratus negara bisa merdeka dgn bantuan Indo? Percayakah sekarang Indonesia lagi mainin Amerika dan China?
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@jia459 lah Amin Rais kan yg ngajarin lewat pemilihan anak2nya? Kedua, Amerika saja yg klaim paling benar demokrasinya jg gak lepas KKN. JFK itu dari adik jabat jaksa agung sampai ke anak2 dan anak2nya adik2nya ada di DPR semua. Trump jg sama. Bill Clinton dukung istrinya jadi capres. Nah kalau yg jadi etalase demokrasi dunia saja begitu. Salah Indonesia ngikut? Lagian kan spt salah satu anaknya Amin yg walaupun sdh di calonkan gagal jadi anggota DPR. Aliasnya walaupun sdh di dukung tapi kan rakyat yg memilih? Yg kasihan itu Mega. Kalau dia baik2 saja dgn Jokowi, PDIP bisa jadi partai penguasa selama 4 periode atau 40 thn. Sekarang yg jadi penguasa ya Gerindra.
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@vtg1800 wkwkwk Partai komunis china dan Vietnam berani gantung koruptor. Trump korupsi, apa berani Amerika gantung Trump?
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@jia459 lah istrinya bill Clinton saja karbitan kok. Masa Indonesia gak boleh tiru mereka yg mbahnya demkrasi? UU di rubah? Kalau ada WNI yg minta pandangan hukum ke MK lalu MK kabulkan, salah kah? Kasihan Mega. Kalau Mega cerdas kemarin, PDIP bisa jadi partai penguasa selama 4 periode. Padahal cuma perlu bersabar Mega kemarin selama 2 bulan saja. Sayangnya kan Mega kurang cerdas. Akhirnya Gerinda yg bakalan jd partai regime baru.
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hahah pajak BBM di Indo cuma 10% bandingkan dgn 50% di negara2 5 eyes nations atau 60% di jepang.
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@adekurniawan4130 hahaha Indo Sdh praktek bro. Indonesia manipulasi supply SDAnya sama spt petrodollar, Eropa nyaris mati. Baru kali Ini Amerika perang harga minyak gak sentuh USD 100. petrodollar berlaku, maka Indo berhak kurangi supply SDA dgn alasan yg sama dgn petrodollar. perang buat supply terganggu.kecuali buat pabrik pengolahan SDA di Indo. itulah kenapa Amerika gak berani naikan minyak yg berakibat naiknya inflasi gila2an di eropa Dan Amerika, gak pengaruh betapa besar pendapatan mereka. inflasi dunia bisa di atur Indo dgn pendirian bursa Index utk maipulasi data demand dab supply dunia Dan Ini mekanisme yg sama dg petrodollar.
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well everyone in Indonesia has the same rights like Chindos Hartono. look at GoTo with mas menteri.
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Nothing wrong with that. If you live in the 5 eyes nations, there will be no subsidies for oil. They will tax you 50% or more.
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Indonesia human development index is no 144 out 200 countries on earth compared to the Dutch with sell where Dutch human capital is no 10 best in the world.
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@Nitesh_Toppo_94 China has bit USA in GDP PPP since long time ago.
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@codelessunlimited7701 subsidies or not are based on the country's competitive advantages. If the government passes the price hike, your country"s products or services become less competitive.
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@daviano_R.T. want to free from poverty? Follow NZ, gives subsidies to the poorest and makes a new definition of what is poverty.
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@brengsek1238 jaman Anua saja yg jebolan S2 Amerika gak peduli rakyatnya punya wc apa gak.
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@damien5869 who has asked Indonesians to work in Malaysia? Indonesia?
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well Indonesia human development rank is only 144 compared to Malaysia that is no 63. Besides Malaysia is part of commonwealth and the UK is the US partner in crime.
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Indonesia is aimed to have rich country like Singapore and China but not individually rich like the USA with its oligarchs and globalist where 1% of its population control 99% of its economy.
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@thefazzayn Well Malaysia is a part of Commonwealth.
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Corruption? In part of capitalist countries is there no corruption? CCP Vietnam and China hung their people who corrupt. Trump was found guilty for his corruption. Will the USA hang Trump? Instead Trump was given a chance to be the US president candidate and the court gave him immunity for his wrongdoing. LOL.
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@bambangbangshu7371 That's not negotiation, that was bribing. It doesn't matter 51 years different but that was corruption and stabbed Indonesia from the back. Why has Indonesia need to sale it asap while the USA can wait for thousand years until no one in the world has similar natural resources anymore? Do you know the reason scientists did research on the south pole? Because in 2048, it can be mined. South Korea knew this and claimed its part in the south pole. It was discovered in 1911. The question why has the USA allies needed to wait for that long since first invasion of south pole to mine it?
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@bambangbangshu7371 well not really. If you see the global history, countries that are fighting each other in the middle east nowadays were a province in Türkiye. When Türkiye hast lost in WW1, England has asked that arena and it split that area into small. England has made s survey that that are is rich with oil. Well, you see Timor Leste. All mainstream media and NGOs in Indonesia yelled about human rights. Actually, Australia has sent a spy named Kirsty Sword with alias name Ruby to marry with Xanana Gusmao. During their relationship in Jakarta, government secrets flew to Canberra. Because of this USD 40 billion of oil deposit in Timor Leste gap was claimed as owned by Australia. The question is how much did NGOs and all Indonesia mainstream media got from Australia to talk about human rights? USD 40 billion?
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@bambangbangshu7371 nothing is easy bro. Poor because Indonesia was not smart enough, too naive. Now if Indonesia knows well the weaknesses of USA allies and China-Russia, easy to get rich.
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