Comments by "Golden Croc" (@GoldenCroc) on "The Volkswagen XL1 was a 250-mpg Bugatti Veyron — Revelations with Jason Cammisa" video.

  1. It would if that would be what customrs want. Alas, the customers loves SUVs and CUVs.
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  2. I think you might be thinking of the Lupo 3L, no polo was rated at 3l/100km as far as I know.
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  3.  @1SaG  Yeah, but its all about where you draw the line.... when you get to that 3.7l/100km, some larger cars can do 4.2l/100km etc etc. Its always that last bit that takes the most to achieve.
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  4.  @Zierfish  Sure, but no way is that correct in an apples to apples comparison with the XL1, same with the insight. So its not really that close or bad for the XL1, I am pretty sure.
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  5. To be fair the vehicles are very different in just about every way, including fuel consumption.
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  6. Well it sure has a lot of nice tricks compared to a normal Lupo, thats for sure.
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  7. Early 2000s, but yeah.
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  8.  @bolt5564  No, its not. Where ever you got those numbers from, they are sadly wrong. In reality, its about the same.
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  9.  @mitchell-wallisforce7859  Well insight is a nice car, I like it, but no way does it come close to the fuel efficiency of an XL1 in an apples to apples comparison.
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  10. I like the insight as much as the next guy, but it didnt really do anything no else couldnt if they wanted to. Exemplified that the prius was wildly succesful and the insight was discontinued. This is to the insight as the insight is to the prius, as statement piece, only even much more so.
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  11. 10 liter. 500km was quite possible, so its not that bad. In any case, this isnt a serious car to be driven, just a statement piece.
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  12. @ Sure, but the same trend is going all over europe as well. And even still, fuel has "always" been cheap in the US relative to europe, but the increased trend towards SUV is somewhat recent.
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  13. @ Well yes, but all of that is contained in the blanket statement "its what customers want" (ergo: what they end up buying). I didnt mention any reasons for why they might want it in my post.
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  14. Insight is a very nice car, I would love to have one. There is no way it comes close to the fuel efficencey of an XL1 though, it just doesnt make sense. If it got similar ratings, thats got to be a very misleading rating compared to what can be achieved. I mean the Lupo 3L and A2 3L is already just as good as an insight, and they are larger, seat more people etc. This is built as a much more fuel efficient platform compared to those sibling cars.. XL1s have done in excess of 150mpg, some closing in on 200mpg, and not just running on the battery either. Thats something other cars cant really match.
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  15. I take it you dont live in Scandinavia? No one here cares even if you show up/drive around in a UFO....
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  16. Series hybrids arent as efficent during crusing as normal ones. On the other hand, towing a trailer doesnt necessarily take much extra fuel, depending on the size of it and the shape of the car.
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  17. I am sure you do, this easily gets above 100mpg doing the same driving. Its always getting the last bit on the top that costs the most. Just as a comparison. Horses for courses.
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  18. I dont agree really. The insight was a somewhat serious car, this is a pure statement piece. And the consumption that can be achieved, is surely not really very close in an apples to apples comparison, with the XL1 being much better. Its always the last bit that takes the most to acheive, after all.
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  19.  @CockatooDude  I think you perhaps misunderstood me. I meant that in the case of the XL1, I believe there really wasnt an attempt to have an effective systems engineering process to begin with, hence its not a factor. I guess it depends on what scope and angle you are looking at it from. I must somewhat object to the whole insight weight comparison that been made in this video and by various commenters such as yourself. The XL1 is much newer, and as such has to contend with a lot more stringent regulations, potentially driving the weight up. And finally, the carbon tub, hand built nature and price werent really problems per se once the ethos of the car was set in stone, its, (as I said above) just a statement piece and not in any way meant to be a serious production car. Its a concept car made street legal, a pure vanity project through and through. i.e there really isnt a "vs" to begin with when it comes to the design process, in my mind. The only "vs" might perhaps be in the consumption results, of which there can be little doubt the XL1 is, keeping economical driving in mind, surely quite a lot better. Never heard of any other car of its era that gets a real 100+mpg and potentially 150 or so in a cruise on fuel only from factory.
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  20.  @jaredlancaster4137  87 vs a good bit over 100 (120 is not too hard, and can go higher) is quite a large difference, wouldnt you say, as a percentage? Factory stock vehicles of course, once you are doing any modification its another argument altogether, and in large parts of the world makes the car not street legal, for example where I am at. Personally, I would rather get a full on no compromise quadricycle registered vehicle then, similar looking to the L1 seen in this video so you dont need to meet the car regulations or compromises, like an Aptera does.
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  21.  @h20dancing18  Aptera can be more fuel efficient than this, but not by an extreme amount. Its ratings shenanigans otherwise.
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  22. You are correct. However, the thing about "modern hybrids" not getting much better mileage than older cars is that the cars are much, much heavier. This is a consequence of what customers and legislation demands. Like for like (same relatively heavy weight), modern cars are much more fuel efficient. As for this car, it can do mileage no other car can, if driven in a reasonable way. The fuel consumption rating numbers are very suspect, no idea how they got them but they surely its all but a worst case scenario for the XL1 vs a good or even best case for other cars. The XL1 can do a true 150mpg running only on fuel (no EV assistance, depleted battery), this is something no other production car, even the aforementioned insight, can come close to. So you are indeed correct, but in a way other people are as well, if not for the reason they think they might be. By the way, I have done 55mpg in my 330hp 3750lbs car (best case scenario, mind, but still)... and its a relic of the early 2000s and not very efficient compared to more modern engines/drivetrains. How? Its a diesel and I know how to drive very economically compared to most people. That does wonders.
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  23. I can agree. The Audi A2 3L reigns supreme if you want the ultimate.
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  24. Well it depends on how you look at it. The insight is very nice, but In an apples to apples comparison, the XL1 is surely much, much more fuel efficient. Those numbers in the video arent apples to apples comparison. And its always the last bit that costs the most.
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