Comments by "Golden Croc" (@GoldenCroc) on "Hype Is Destroying Car Culture." video.

@tobias_k01 Fanboys make up most of the car community. Always did, since the car was invented, more or less. The new thing is they got a way to express their fanboy-ism; which takes the form of shitting on other brands online.
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@halogod0298 A brand isnt representative of a platform, and even less over a span of time. So your argument doesnt say a lot really. Brands make good platforms. They make bad ones. Their quality may be lacking one year, the next its good again. Is the Z4 platform currently more unreliable than other similar cars is all that matters. Do you have any data of such?
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@danmac6185 The market has spoken though. Most people dont care about shifting gears themsleves, and they never did. But even still, its just a matter of time before everything is all electric with no gearbox anyway.
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@danmac6185 I am in europe, where at least until very recently, just about everyone learnt how to drive manuals. To the point that some people dont dare drive automatics, because its too unfamiliar. And even here, where almost everyone know how to drive a manual, most people dont care, Thats what I was getting at. No amount of teaching people how to drive manuals will change "most" peoples mind. Enthusiasts maybe, but there arent many of those as buyers of new cars, even sports cars. Look at europe again, most performance cars are sold with autos, even though their buyers almost certainly know how to drive manuals. Its a losing battle, sorry to say. The other points you bring up, I didnt really comment on. But I can sympathize and agree somewhat, but it is what it is. Now me personally, I honestly dont care much about automatic or manual. Maybe the manual is a little, tiny bit more fun. But I honestly dont care much. My present cars are automatics, but thats because you couldnt get them in anything else, yes even in europe. Still, the automatics are faster, som I probably would have gotten both as automatics anyway considerng what they are used for. I got a bunch of motorcycles that are manuals anyway if I feel like it.
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@halogod0298 Sure, I can agree BMW hasnt covered themselves in glory, certainly when it comes to the platforms and engines launched in 2001-2010 or so, they were often terrible. Shockingly, unacceptably bad. However, as I said, thats not the case for every platform or engine even in those years. I should know, I have owned a few and they worked just fine. But I did my research before I bought and I take care of my cars. In the 1970-1980s, BMWs were one of the highest quality cars you could buy. 1990s less so, but engines were almost always good. Things change. All data I have seen is that since about 2014 they are much, much better than the decade earlier in general. For now, I see no reason to believe the Z4 platform with for example the B58 engine will be any worse than most cars in this segment.
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@haydenw8691 Just a correction: Those werent the same people, I assure you of that. The complainers are people that will never buy anything. They just like complaining. Mostly because they are fanbiys of another brands.
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@halogod0298 There is just more crap to break on newer cars, this is true for all brands. Look back on cars that had a lot of stuff on them already decades ago and they really werent much better. On top of the BMW I own currently, I also own a first AND a second gen Porsche cayenne with all the bells and whistles with active sway bars and such. If you think BMWs are bad, let me assure you they are kindergarten level in comparison when it comes to hilarious costs. On top of the electrics, my gen 2 cayenne needed a complete new engine at just 40k miles, cost about 22k USD with install. factory Warranty covered it though. German automakers have pushed the technological envelope the last 30 years more than ever, as well as aggressively tried cutting costs. Toyota uses tech at least one generation behind. That is a good thing for reliabilty, to say the least. Iron out most bugs or dont go down technologically dead ends. I think the Z4 will be in line with most other cars in its class. It wont match up to a bare bones Yaris, not by a long shot, or any toyota most likely though, yes.
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@halogod0298 By the way, I bought an F series generation BMW some years ago. I sold it after just 1000 miles driven. Dumb mistake, didnt testdrive beforehand, I trusted reviews. Fast car, but terrible feel. too much videogame. I then scoured entire europe for one of the last made E series cars in "as new condition", with hydraulic Power steering (No F generation got that). I found it after nine months, I now own one of the last produced e92 ever made and I dont think I will ever sell it. So I can sympathize with the "raw feel" comment somewhat.
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Here is the thing: The "Car culture" and "car enthusiasts" community have always been filled to the brim of fanboys and tribalists that just want to hype their own car (or their favorite car), and shit on everything else. Its likely almost every post shitting on cars comes from just such a person. Just a normal "sports team" mentality. Nothing new. All the while since 1940s "Ford-guys" vs "chevy-guys" or maybe even earlier. These are the people that I think make up the majority of "car enthusiasts". But I am going to say it: They arent really car enthusiasts at all. They are just people that have latched on to a brand. They could just as well discuss why Xbox is btter than playstation. They generally dont know much about cars as well, even the ones they themselves champion. Its best to ignore them.
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