Comments by "Golden Croc" (@GoldenCroc) on "Weird American Customs That The Rest of the World Doesn't Understand.." video.

@EitBitSF 1: I suggest you read my post again, what you have replied with have pretty much nothing to do with what I have written. As for the other two examples, local peculiarities exist everywhere (applies to example number 1 as well), Nothing exclusive to the US, These exact cases could happen everywhere in the west and English speaking world, and if you dont think so you are either simply not sufficiently informed on how stuff like this when it comes to single instances works in the real world, no offence. A single story about something strange when it comes to law enforment and legal system can be dug up from pretty much everywhere in the world.
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@Archangel591 1: No country that I I know of, including the US. But still the story was from the US. I take it you can draw you own conslusions from that? 2; Yes they can. Doesnt mean this stuff cant happen everywhere. 3: Maybe not "around here" but I doubt "around here" experience encompasses your whole country?
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Graduate at 15? Not when compared to the US... its pretty much the same age or a year later for comparable school systems in Sweden. "College" starts at 19 or 20 years of age generally in Sweden.
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@terned8893 Well thats likely so. Since the video was from a US perspective and the commenter wrote about Sweden, I would assume they also made that comparison between US-SWE and not with any other country, for example the UK. But perhaps they did.
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Sure it might seem weird, but the stories above could have happened in quite literally any other western and/or english speaking nation. Nothing really US exclusive about it being possible.
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@normieloser6969 Literally everyone. If you dont think so you are insufficiently informed about the subject. Local law enforcment and social services have wide reaching authority pretty much everywhere.
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Considering my replies above, it would appear many people have difficulty separating: A single story with general, and common, policy. A law from authority overreach. And anecdotal stories from de jure. My first comment is absolutely 100% true for the context these stories appeared in.
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@alicemilne1444 Please read my latest post before this reply to you. It seems you might have fallen into the trap it describes.
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@alicemilne1444 "Robbery is impossible, its against the law in my country" "Wininng the lottery is impossible, I know people that have played every day their entire lives and never won" <- Do you see analogy of where your assumptions in your post goes wrong? See also my latest post above this one.
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@erwinzyx Common you say. If so, I havent seen it being more than flukes, quite adequately explained by the population and greater media reach/exposure of the US vs most other countries. Whats your soruce of it being more common in the US, per capita etc? In any case, even if it is more common, that really isnt what I am saying in my post if you read them as they are written.
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@alicemilne1444 Oh I am quite aware, rest assured. But I think you didnt read my post properly, or you wouldnt have made that comment to begin with, since it isnt really relevant to what I have written. What exactly in it is it you disagree with?
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@despaney lets say I care about the "percieved spirit" of my comments, which I really dont all that much, since my comment was the first one and is standalone. But again, if I did, and if it is "false" then I would like to hear what data you base that on that isnt covered by what I have posted above?
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@awmperry I recommend you read my comment above about conflating single cases etc. It explains it more fully, you seem to be falling into what I talk about in that post.
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@Dreyno I would recommend that you also read my post above (the one that doesnt tag any specific person), it should explain the situation.
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@despaney Indeed, and thats the case for 99,99+% of the US population as well, including the arrest of the mother of the child being illegal. Never mind that my post didnt say anything specific about that, do you see the logical fallacy in the assumption here?
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@awmperry A: Whats you data source for them being "relatively common"? B: As I wrote above, what if I told you that national circumstances and legislation make these edge cases just as impossible in the US, what would say then? What, according to you, are the differences in how the legal system works in the US contra the rest of the western world, and how stuff happens in practice that makes "imppossible"? I dont see it, personally, never mind a blanket statement such as "western world" and "impossible"? Can a bank robbery not happen, since it is illegal in most places? Do you see the logical fallacy people are falling into that I was talking about in that post?
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@SilverionX Dont think what, exactly? Its fine disagreeing, but in this case it seems to be, so far, almost exclusively based on people misreading or misunderstanding or both at the same time. Common enough problem, many people dont read very carefully, but isnt all that productive in having a discussion.
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@awmperry It really isnt that hard, and I have explained it in other posts. Laws arent always followed? Wouldnt you agree with that? I am sure you would agree if you think about it a bit more. But I do find it strange asking for "burden of proof" and then just as quickly saying you will ignore it. Not a good look if you want to come across as somewhat unbiased, or anything more than what would effectively be a jingoist. This doesnt give me hope for a reasonable reply, but I have done what I can to be civil anyway.
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@Dreyno It certainly does explain in a pretty fundamental way, and I am sad you cant see that. Good for you that you have "gauged my persona" etc, but that doesnt change the fact that some condescension seems in general order, since it seems there are very few persons, yourself sadly included it seems, that have given any serious thought to this question beyond "Its this way because thats what authorities told me" I know none of you believe that yourself if you think rationally about it. Or you misread my posts totally. Its really is either or. Especially since none so far has replied what exactly is that would make it literally "impossible" and what the differences are compared to US that would make it so. It would appear most people taking affront to my comment, just haven thought, or dont want to think about, how a human society works in practice.
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@borbarad2.0 I take it you are referring to me? Not even from the US. Being unbiased is something I would recommend trying.
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@davedixon2068 Quite wrong, I am just unbiased. I have have provided arguments and facts, and none have replied. Not very characteristic for a "troll" I wouldnt say. Now posting the exact same comment, time and time again, that seems more typical.,.. hmmm.
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@despaney I have never said one should dismiss anything. The fallacy is you (and others) assuming your personal experience of yourself or anyone you know have any statistical meaning in comparison to the US examples. As you can see if you can count, you, eveyone you know, and all the people in this comment field still pales in comparison to the about 1 in 300 million US residents. Its quite simple statistics, which I am sure you also are aware of if you think a bit about it. Anecdotal evidence isnt anything noteworthy on the comparative scale we are talking about here.
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@yannicklucas1836 This post at least shows a bit more effort than most, and for that I applaud you. However, it falls down a bit considering a few factors: 1 and 2nd pagagraph: It can happen, laws arent always followed by law enforcement and relevant authorities. I am sure you dont disagree with this if you think about it, Havent you ever heard of a case of law malpractice from your home country? Never? Well in that case, I would be worried, because that would more than likely mean you are living in a heavily authoritarian state... Its just human to make mistakes. Most nations have several millions of people, so mistakes happen all the time. Last paragraph: Yes I agree it can be a reasonable assumption. Its also quite possible thats not the case at all though. It can be more than likely be because the people that bother to reply dont read properly for whatever reason, such as them not wanting what I write to be true. Yes, it could be seen as a bit condescending, but it is nevertheless 100% true. Note that no one (mostly) really have asked me more about why that is or how, just broadly shouted "No, you are wrong". If I walk into the local football club fan area in the stands and tell them their club is bad at scoring goals compared to another club, do you think I would get many to agree with me, even though I could shove a paper with statistics under their nose showing my point to be true? Of course not, its just human nature to be biased. No suprise the statistics of people being so about their own country is reasonably high on a channel that often compares different countries to the US. Considering the replies I have (mostly) got, the second assumption seems more likely. If you are at least as sowewhat reaonable as this post make you out to be, I am sure you will agree if you think about it with a cool head.
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@davidribeiro1064 I am quite familiar, yes, rest assured of that. But as the question was, and as I have written above from just about the start: What US law, since thats the comparison, would allow that mother of the 10 year old arrest? Hint: Its none that doesnt also exist in Portugal, and vice versa. Do you now see the problem with your assumption?
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@Edam-Channel Nope, not saying that at all. Just saying comparisons about single cases is just about impossible to make. Statistically or what have you. Just really cant be effectively done when we are talking hundreds of millions of people vs the small sample size provided.
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@AndrewFishman And they dont get charged for that in the US either. In general. Or even in the extreme. This was an illegal arrest. Now do you see the problem with assuming otherwise? So yes, I am quite aware of the world, and how society in general works in most of the world, and especially in "western" nations (of which australia is a part, former brit colony, commonwealth and all that etc) I summation, making assumptions from this meagre statistics about hundreds of millions to one is just not possible. By the way, I am pretty well travelled, and not, nor have ever been, a US citizen. 100% unbiased in this matter.
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@davedixon2068 Where did I say its "common", I dont see it? You must have misread it, or got the context wrong. But yes, single cases of just about anything can happen everywhere. Thats just human nature.
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@ybreton6593 NON what? But with that exhaustive proof and argumentation, you have convinced me. "NON" indeed it is....
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@AndrewFishman No, not at all really. Just trying to explain it how it is, which I did already good enough in my first 2-3 posts. If people dont want to listen, thats not really my problem, but you might note from the posts above no one have really adressed my points in any way. A bit strange dont you think, if you are to make yourself out to be "correct", completely ignoring the text the other side (myself, in this case) lays on the table? As for your post specifically, you arent saying anything in it thats at all relevant to the discusion here, I am sure you will agree. But if thats what you truly (or more likely, want to) believe , I wont stop you. But if you read my posts with a cool, unbiased head, you will see what I am talking about. It really isnt that hard.
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@Bunny_Aoife Considering the replies I mostly have got, I am not sure at all they do understand outliers.... How can you even take a single instace of a case that has happened a documented of 1 time in recent history as an example when the population of the US is 300+ million? statistically, just about everything can happen, and will, multiple times a day. No matter how unlikely it may seem. I am telling you they could happen, not because the laws arent different, because I agree they often are. But But because If you take the "child endagerment" story for example, the arrest was against the law! But considering the rest of your postm, you seem like a pretty reasonable person, surely you can understand my point that I made from the start about laws and culture being less than interesting when it comes to single cases like this. Law malpractice happens everywhere, all the time, wouldnt you agree? Surely you must have heard of tons of them from you own country as well? As I also said above: "bank robberies are impossible in my country, since they are against the law" With statistics like my first paragraph above, its not about if, its about when.... I ahve also written about more media exposure etc in my first posts above and how it skews perception. As for the last part of your post: I know enough about most countries, more than most people, but thats not really the crux hee, not at all. I also I believe other people just fine. But the simple fact is I just know they havent thought about the statistics and human nature enough before they replied the way the did, or they wouldnt have done so. If you will do the courtesy of doing the same, and truly try to understand what I have written, I am sure you will agree with me.
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