Comments by "Golden Croc" (@GoldenCroc) on "Review: Chris Harris drives the new BMW M3 | Top Gear" video.

@dagnut Both true and not. The f80 is for sure more optimized than an e90, it is as you say bigger. But the marketing said it was 80kg lighter than the older one, which it did not seem to be. Also, I am sure they made an effort with this, but it is a bigger car again, it has an autobox which is heavier than a dct, and it is prepared for 4wd, something the old platform wasnt. Every car is heavy these days, I think the guilia QF was heavier than the f80 as well. The bigger M5 is well over 2 tonnes. BMWs were never light cars compared to other brands at the time, M3 has been said to be grossly overweight since the e36 back in 1993.. Bottom line, M3 is not a sportscar and never was. Its a sporty GT with 4 pretty good seats.
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@dagnut f80 wasnt really lighter than e90 as far as I know, that was just marketing. So I guess you can say they are more honest this time?
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@dagnut Depends on which standard you use to measure by. But real world on a scale next to a e90, they seem to be just about the same. As is an M2 as well, funnily enough. Of course some options such as sunroof can purportedly change the weight by as much as 25kg compared to a normal carbon roof by itself. Most commonly they weigh in at about 1650kg with full tank, no driver.
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@dagnut Oh yeah, for sure. Not defending the new one, just saying the f80 weight savings compared to e90 seems to have been mostly a marketing fantasy.
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