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@seanmac1793 it was about his post on Turing, which seemed a bit out of context to me, and not about his other good posts here - sorry as my comment didn't connect to his - my fault. In a nutshell, the relevant dates were 1952 when he was convicted of gross indecency, and 1954 when he died, officially by suicide; the relevant place is England. (Not somewhere in the 1960s). The phrase 'chemical castration' isn't one I hear frequently but yes, he undertook what was believed at the time to be a suitable treatment for sex offenders. I am glad we have moved on a long way since then. So no, he wasn't left to die from chemical castration, and there is reasonable speculation his death might have been accidental rather than suicide. The Govt did in fact get involved, as his security clearance was removed - to remove the risk of him being blackmailed over his sexuality and sexual activities - again, how times have changed. COLOSSUS was not being used operationally at this time but possibly two machines survived to be used as training aids. Thomas' post is a bit confusing as I am not sure what his point really was, but Turing was not left to die as suggested. NB - thanks for some interesting insights on Admiral King - a 'marmite' person I think?
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@PlosmanD really good thoughts; I'd suggest that in the book Compass Rose didn't go down in good order, and went down quickly and unexpectedly in the wee hours, the angle of her list prevented use of the proper lifeboats; the book documents both the problems of lifeboats when she went down, and also that she was torpedoed, thus the lack of the lifeboats was instrumental in the subsequent deaths of most of the crew.
I would also suggest that in today's age, we forget how quickly advanced first aid has come; this was set in an era where first aid was pretty primitive compared to what we know now.
To me, it portrays the tragedy of war in a semifictitious way; it is shocking, emotional, but as you ask - how much of that was real, and how much of it was dramatised for effect? I would also like to know. Thank you for asking a really good question, I look forward to understanding the books more.
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