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@What ? Breaking Bad isn't about chemistry. It's about human nature and psychology etc.
Every TV show is full of ridiculous and impossible things. It's just that most normies can be fooled to think the show resembles some sort of reality. On BB the thing that is real is the psychology and characters, and their decisions.
Not all metals are magnetic. Also you can't blow up a car by lighting the gas tank, you can't make gasoline light up by cigarette, or make fuel tank blow up or catch fire by shooting it. All TV from start to finish is full of shite like these, either directly physical impossibilities or psychological ones which I hate the most. BB doesn't have these, and it's focused on that, so I love it.
Hank isn't stupid. If you have known someone your whole life and think him as nerd emasculated family man, it's pretty impossible to think him being scarface. Also Hank didn't think Walter won millions, just enough to buy car wash.
If you get a call about your wife being in car accident and air lifted to a near hospital, you either believe it to be a fake or not. The caller being female who managed to say the right things would easily make you believe it's true. After all your number is certainly private and not attained by anyone but officials and relatives.
I have watched BB for half a dozen times at least, and while there are many things that requires lots of luck, there isn't any plot holes except impossible chemistry. Even the explosion on Tuco's is close to being possible, though it would have broken their ears. Otherwise you can survive pretty big explosions. The things I hate about BB are when the mexican brothers blow up the gasoline tank, and when walter blow up his gasoline tank. So I understand how you feel.
Lydia used the last stevia on the table, planted by Walt, and asked for more.
You should binge watch BB and focus on the characters and their psyche. I only fell in love with this show after I had once watched it already because I knew to focus on what's actually important and great on this show.
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@What ? Walt losing his mind doesn't even connect with him being meth dealer, not one bit. Also he was losing his family, and had cancer still.
Hank called for backup + warrent. He followed Jessie, so he had right to be there.
Hank and Gomes could have had either some judge friend give them access, much of this planning happened offscreen, or they could have just tracked the phone without a permit. Though I don't even know if they need a permit to follow a phone, having lines tabbed is a different thing.
As I said in every comment, chemistry is used as a plot device. Every show is full of impossibilities on every level. Having chemistry as a plot device doesn't bother almost anybody. Tuco's scene used chemistry as plot device for a bomb sized in a way that trashes a room and blows windows. That kind of explosion would not cause anything but broken ears if people are not directly on the blast.
Skyler changed the locks on early S3 and neighbor went there in late S4. Either they changed locks back, or gave new key to their neighbor. Even if the equipments to make the bomb were on the kitchen, who would have knew what those were.
Tuco's house, either Tuco gave them the stuff back, or more likely his uncle took them so he could revenge Tuco's death. That's why he knew Walter White when the Salamanca brothers came to his retirement home.
Walt had to rely to luck when he entered neo nazis place. He knew the place from before, and knew how to park. They thought he was coming to teach them and get money, so why would they look at the trunk.
BB has lots of scenes that are based on luck and co-incidences. Normally I don't like that kind of stuff, but on BB the focus is purely on the characters and their psyche and mistakes. And also on the fact how our actions come to bite us, and how things have butterfly effect.
Walt became completely egomaniac after S4, and having a book is just the type of mistake that intelligent criminals might make.
There are no plot holes on BB, it's just based on luck and co-incidences to tell it's story. You are clearly watching the show differently if you think these kinds of things on that show.
It's like someone would trash GOT because dragons and white walkers are impossible. This example is hyperbole, but it explains that to enjoy a certain show, you need to look it a certain way. GOT ain't police drama or show like that, where things happening offscreen would certainly be shitty and distracting.
My point here is that I understand where your feelings come from. One impossibility on BB, on the first scene you see Walt's pants flying in the air, and only after that we can see the RV coming from that same direction. So it's 100% impossible, and they of course knew it. It's there because the reason is to arouse emotions and it works.
Rewatch the show, it's really is worth it. I watched it on TV and stopped on 2nd season, then I binged it completely, and only on my 2nd binge watching I truly fell in love with the show when I learned how to watch it.
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@What ? I had the same feelings about BB in the beginning. But it's a show that just uses chemistry as a vehicle to tell a story about human nature. And as I'm not expert on chemistry, I can give a pass on inconsistencies.
But many aspects that you say are not plot holes etc. Lydia's poisoning was completely logical. You knew she used stevias, so just empty one stevia, insert your poison and make sure it's on the right table at the right time.
Brock's poisoning could have been done in many ways, taking the poison from the flowers and inserting it to candys or soda and paying someone to give it to him. This is probably the thing I like the least on the show, but on the first watch you just realize the thing in the last seconds of S4 and so it doesn't bother you. And because the point of the whole show is to tell a story about how people break bad (everybody breaks bad in this show), it doesn't matter that much of if something makes sense, if the effect on when you watch it works.
Jesse's hallucination is just to show his mental state. Not that he hallucinates, but the fact that he is paranoid.
I think BB has some flaws, but on the other hand I think it's the most perfect show on what it tries to do. And I just love of what it tries to do. But I only fell in love with the show on my rewatch session. BB is a show that needs to be watched multiple times. And I think it's a show best suited for real adults, over 30 yr olds.
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@What ? No, it's not bad writing or lazy writing at all. And trying to make 100% chemically realistic show would have ruined the concept completely.
Walt could just pick up one of those stevia packs, took out little of the stevia, and put the ricin in and do it with needle and plug the hole with really tiny amount of clue. If done on the right spot, this is 100% impossible to notice.
Walt used chemistry to take the active poison from the flowers, just like with ricin. The amount of that poison is in milligrams so even if that poison would leave taste, the amount is way too small.
I really don't know what the writers thought. If they really went with hallucinations, then they most likely wrote it as sleep deprevation which causes hallucinations. But I have never heard anyone complain about that part and I didn't take it as hallucination at all.
Certain metals are not magnetic. Though the whole magnet scene is pretty crap.
You are watching the show superficially in my mind if you are so concerned about things that are impossible. It's the characters and their psychology that is real and important. You can think of the show being told by untrustworthy narrator, or someone that doesn't know the chemistry but is trying to be honest.
All mexican parts of BB were colored yellow, that certainly isn't accurate, nobody believes that, but it works. Try to focus on the people, everything else is just coloring of the book.
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@What ? GOT just build up more mysteries over more mysteries until it was obvious that there was no plan to ever conclude anything.
If you truly think there are no holes until S7, then I'm certainly wasting my time.
What good analysts, I have checked out dozens of them, but not dragon demands or Preston Jacobs.
And yes, D&D are shitty writers. Good scenes doesn't change that. Have you listened to their last interview from couple of months away where they pretty much admitted that they had no clue on what they were doing and how they were surprised to get the job in the first place?
Of course Martin defends D&D, that proves absolutely nothing. And yes, Martin would be horrible at writing scripts fast, which again proves nothing. If you truly think D&D are good writers, well, good for you.
Breaking Bad doesn't have plot holes. It has chemistry used as plot device. It has amazing writing, which you probably don't understand based on your comments thus far. That's ok. Perhaps watch that again when you are older.
Journey is of course more important than ending, but if the journey is just building up mysteries that are left open without any meaning, and every season is constantly getting more about shock, killing characters, subverting expectations and not having any real value, then the journey is just like pyramid scam. And thus D&D got fired from Star Wars and all the spinoffs of GOT has been cancelled.
I would say that thus far every alternative storylines from S7 and S8 have been better than what we got.
BB on the other hand gets better in every season, and it has amazing last 8 episodes. Everything on that show makes sense from storytelling point of view, and all the characters are written and acted amazingly. But it's a completely different show from GOT, which is pretty simple show compared to BB which is really deep. Although it can be watched superficially too.
GOT had the potential to be amazing, but a ton of responsibility goes to Martin too. I don't think he can ever finish the story in a way that makes sense in a way that would make his final book as good as his best books thus far. I don't think even he has any great point to his whole series. Still, pretty much anyone could have written better final seasons on GOT. Almost all characters got completely assassinated, most arcs got destroyed and all the lore was for nothing.
Breaking bad however tells perfect arc for almost all characters.
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@What ? Hank called backup and waited backup + warrant. And if you have known someone for decades and think him as your dear friend and a sort of loser, completely different kind of person who makes meth, then it's pretty easy to not ever think him as having anything to do with meth.
You need to watch BB again. There isn't plot holes, though it relies on luck and co-incidents a lot. That doesn't bother me, though certainly it could be even better if they had twice the time to write it. But the things that the show explores are written perfectly.
Again, there are no plot holes in BB. Chemistry is just used as plot device pretty much like magic and dragons on GOT. I loved GOT until they started to phuck up the characters, just create mysteries that were left in the air without explanations or any points, and when they started to kill characters and subvert expectations just to create cheap "good writing".
On GOT S1-S3 was pretty perfect. But in retrospect big reason was that they just build mysteries that promised a lot, but that eventually were forgotten. Character arcs were great, but either those characters got killed, or they were changed and the arcs got phucked.
So GOT is like a pyramid scam that promises a ton of profits but in the end leaves most completely broke. It had amazing actors, amazing production value etc. but no real substance. And a lot of people loved that show because it promised a ton of substance on the first couple of seasons. It was really intelligent show the first 3 seasons.
GOT was crucified for SMALL things? I don't want to trash it further because it's best to enjoy things as much as possible, but if you want to know why it's trashed so much, there are huge amount of youtubers who explained all the problems on GOT. Maybe some people trashed small things, but I think most tried to give it a pass every way they could just because they loved the show and characters so much and hoped that S8 would finally fix the show.
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@goldwin1000 Breaking Bad certainly isn't overrated. Most underrate it as they don't get why it is so good, in the same way that many people don't get Shakespeare.
GOT however is overrated, though season 1 is one of the best first seasons, I can only think one that is clearly better, and that is Twin Peaks' original 1st season in 1990.
But GOT was already going downhill in season 4, even though that season has many amazing episodes. But then season 5 and 6 are overall much worse, season 7 is complete trash. Sure it looks great, but the writing is horrible, characters got simplified to the point of them being unrecognizable.
It's just that people recognize season 8 to be so crap, because it finally had to show that the show was full of hot air. It's easy to build mysteries that seem amazing, arcs that seem majestic, and even multidimensional characters. But to finish the story so that characters remain multidimensional, their actions make perfect sense, and those mysteries get resolved in meaningful manner that all contribute to the overarching themes of the show, that's hard as hell.
If GOT would have nailed the last season perfectly, it would have been a better show, even though season 5-7 are already quite bad. But I think the magical elements of that show were unbalanced in a way that you couldn't make that perfect ending on that show in any way.
One thing that could have saved the show would have been if "peter baelish theory" would have been real. That way the faceless men would have made sense, and that would have allowed to tie all the magical elements to the main plot of "who gets the Iron Throne" which also would have been connected to white walkers and the doom that awaits people that can't work together. It would have made the show number 1.
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