Comments by "Juzu Juzu" (@juzujuzu4555) on "We Should Stop Labeling Linux Distros \"Easy\" And \"Hard\"" video.

It's these inevitable issues that will develop you. There were many times I was so close on just ditching Gentoo, but forcing to fix the issues and finding workarounds truly paid off.
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Gentoo isn't hard, it's perfect. And rewarding!
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Gentoo in itself is quite easy, until things happen that go outside the expected. For simple example during installing if you had too many threads for the compiling and ran out of memory with some of the packages. You'll have to scroll a ton of the output to find clues. There are tons of potential issue that can, and eventually something will happen. But with the correct attitude you'll find the issues and usually there's some simple fixes. Overtime this adds up and learn the system. But Gentoo is certainly worth it in my opinion. In two years it has changed me from Linux user, to mastering my own system and having total confidence.
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@pillmuncher67 Interesting, I had target as 32bit AMD too and 64 bit Intel was the compiling machine. The issues were purely distcc related, not really crashing but just failing. It managed to get things started and then at some point just stopped using the distcc. I thought it might be due to latency issues as I had to use wifi to connect to router. I might try it again at some point though, because it was also about a year ago when I really tried and had motive to not give up, but I came to conclusion that it's not stable based on Gentoo IRC conversation (which I sadly don't remember the details anymore) I'm pretty well adjusted with Gentoo ~amd64. GentooLTO overlay, beta GCC 13 with all the optimizations etc. as I'm addicted to optimization. On that note, as I have LTO, PGO, Graphite, Ofast, all the GentooLTO things, and going from GCC 12 to GCC 13 still managed to get pretty significant speed improvements on almost all OpenSSL algorithms. 5-10% improvement on 7yo Intel laptop with 2 cores. Which I would assume should have the least improvements really from new compilers. With more cores you get improved parallelism, newer CPUs get better AVX utilization etc. but to still get so much improvement on hash etc algorithms on old Intel is pretty incredible. I tested OpenSSL, then switched to GCC 13, compiled the same version of OpenSSL and did the testing again. So it was real reliable testing, without even restart in between the tests.
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Not really arguing about what you said to Gentoo, but for the most part the only real effort on maintaining it is the time that it takes to compile and install new software. Other than that the maintaining is pretty easy.
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@sord444 You are correct, especially with careless playing around you get into trouble quick. But things have also improved a lot (based on those who have used it much longer than me). Really it's the experience with the system that makes it much easier over longer period of time. At that point many things are actually easier with Gentoo than with "normal distro", but it sure requires lots of time to get into that level.
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How to compile Gentoo for old machines. I would have loved to use my main desktop for compiling so I could install Gentoo to really ancient machines, but nothing really works well enough.
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@pillmuncher67 When did you accomplish that? I have tried that, and even managed to get certain files compiled, but at some point it just crashes. I talked about on that subject on Gentoo's IRC and I really don't remember how that discussion went but the conclusion was to abandon the project based on what I heard.
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@terrydaktyllus1320 Your knowledge of my level of knowledge is not good enough. And as I said, I talked to many people in Gentoo IRC channels, some aspects of distcc support was removed from Gentoo because of issues, that I remember for certain. It worked for a moment, until it cut away during middle of the compiling process for whatever reason. There was certainly enough RAM (64GB) and HDD space, and network itself didn't break or anything like that. My interpretation was that I had too high latency and thus it stopped using the remote server, and I think that was the conclusion also on the IRC, but I'm hesitant to say this for sure because I don't remember anymore and I don't want to say anything wrong about Gentoo IRC which is awesome.
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@terrydaktyllus1320 Lol, "discussion closed" like you actually had discussion and did anything else but showed your true personality. And dude, it was you who wasted your time with the bullshit you wrote. "I have zero interest in your level of knowledge" yet you claimed I didn't have it, and now you admit you don't know my level of knowledge. It's hard to imagine you being into Gentoo with that attitude, haven't seen any people with such attitude. Which is one great aspect of Gentoo community.
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