Comments by "David Himmelsbach" (@davidhimmelsbach557) on "TIKhistory"
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@JohnBurns -- incorrect.
The British recently tested those radios. Yes, they still had such radios in their possession -- and they were taken by investigators to Salisbury plain -- in optimal conditions -- and it was soon discovered that they, the radios, NEVER had decent range -- PERIOD. With the best operators, in ideal weather, in ideal terrain with radios totally squared away -- they STILL could not transmit // receive much past 2.5 miles. This was broadcast by the BBC. They had a show that looked back, forensically, at many famous British battles.
Time and time, again, they've discovered that the old historical version accepted for perhaps centuries is and was totally wrong. Famously, they discovered that the entire narrative about Agincourt was totally wrong. British long bows had NOTHING to do with Henry's success. The French actually just killed themselves. Strange, but true.
The British Army simply did not test its radios for range -- certainly not First Airborne. On manuvers the boys never got that far apart... and these were tactical radios. Driven by batteries, they were power hogs, too. (All tube driven electronics just sucks down the juice, which is why the range was so limited. To get more range, they needed line power -- not batteries.)
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@John Burns
After Bulge, Ike pushed Monty to the curb.
This explains why the British Army group was "pinched out" as they say when the Allied armies crossed the Rhine.
Ike basically cut Monty off of American support... once he crossed the Rhine. From that point onward, Monty had to TOTALLY rely upon British logistics.
He couldn't get out of first gear.
The boobs south of him then proceeded to over-run Western Germany so fast that it alarmed Stalin.
By the end, Monty had to ask Ike for the 82nd Airborne so that the Reds would not roll into Denmark. He got them.
Gavin, the 'loser' jumped into his jeep and then rolled Northeast across Germany using nothing more than his side arm and an American flag, pennant mounted on his jeep.
From time to time, he'd even have Germans saluting him! Being behind American lines was a dream come true for them.
In his book "On to Berlin" he recounted how weird it was. For before he rolled, the British had led him to believe that intense resistance was to be faced. However, it was a cake-walk... a motor-march.
By the end, Gavin had reached the Baltic... not Berlin! Heh.
And, keep in mind, Gavin admired both Browning and Monty. Loved them in fact.
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Ike had taken 9th Army away from Monty by the end.
Gavin, a Monty-phile -- big time, specifically stated in his book that the release came from IKE.
Monty HAD to go to Ike to get this division.
Ike pinched 21st Army Group out of the Front. By the end of the war, not one British formation was there to shake hands with the Russians.
This was deliberate. A snub, for sure.
Seeing the lay of the (political) land, Monty accepted the TOTAL surrender of Nazi Germany in his 21st Army Group HQ on May 5th, 1945.
When Ike heard the news, he flipped, ( off camera ) and informed Monty that the surrender could ONLY ever occur at SHAEF HQ. Please send your reps. Monty was not on hand, IIRC. Ike would also not appear in the ceremony. He deliberately stayed in the next room. He wanted to strangle the Germans, of course.
Ike actually had a TERRIBLE temper.
Marshall told him even a single additional outburst would be enough for him to be sent down in shame. Further, Ike was to NOT micro-manage subordinate commands. Upon the attempt, he'd also be sent packing. These General Orders from THE General explain what many Brits find inexplicable... Americans, too.
The Ike they 'know' is Mr. genial. His military record says the opposite. One of the reasons that Marshall hated McArthur was that McArthur took a fulsome chit on Ike's 'military jacket.'
As a result Ike was a mere Lt Col at the start of WWII. He was three stars in less than 12 months once Marshall was 'hip' to what McArthur had done. He'd lied... for years on end. Free-riding Ike's work as if it was his own. (!!!) Unforgivable. Any lesser rank would've been court martialed. But, McArthur was already a national hero.
[ Likewise Johnny Carson, known to every American as Mr. fun guy was, in fact, too tightly wrapped and was routinely drunk as a skunk -- and Johnny was an ANGRY drunk. He really did need Ed McMahon to chill him down// double as a body guard. ]
Lastly when Zhukov heard that Ike had taken the surrender he wigged out. The Germans HAD to perform the same ceremony for the Red Army. Each one of these German surrenders was total and complete across the board. Monty's ceremony has been Winston Smithed down the memory hole. Yet it was not a bit different than Ike's or Zhukov's.
All of which proves that it takes three times as much effort to surrender as it takes to declare war. Heh.
You MUST be kidding about the North Sea. The Russians were already on the North Sea and had been there for months and months.
The issue was DENMARK. You're exposing how twisted your 'logic' can be.
Not unreasonably, Monty wanted to be standing in place to shake hands with the Russians. Once it was obvious that this would never happen he dialled Ike and had the 82nd stand in for him. That must have been as much fun as gargling shards of glass.
Well, at least on paper, the 82nd would count as a subordinate command to 21st Army Group.
That had to count for something.
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@John Burns
You live in an alternate reality. Bradley slipped 9th Army into the merge between 21st Army Group and 12th Army Group.
That was his political solution. The 9th Army was but an over-grown corps at that time.
1st Army consisted of 15 premier divisions.
Marshall told Bradley that was his limit. Bradley, 12 AG commander was actually running 1st US Army at the exact same time. Hodges was nothing more than a go-fer and yes-man. Bradley routinely reached past Hodges to Gerow and Collins -- his twin favorites. Both reached 4 stars in the post war era, IIRC. (And Bradley 5 stars.)
Upon Marshall's dictum, every new division to land went to Patton... until 3rd Army became a monster. Then Marshall told Bradley, what goes for Hodges goes for Patton: no more.
Simpson was FORCED upon Bradley. He wanted Gerow. He had to eat crow and explain to Gerow that he was not in a position to dictate army commanders.
Simpson came out of the National Guard, IIRC, was McNairs favorite.
But whatever, Bradley came to fall in love with Simpson: who NEVER provided Bradley with any grief whatsoever. He was totally the opposite of both Hodges and Patton. Simpson was ALL business.
Monty QUICKLY realized just how lucky he was. Simpson beat Hodges all to Hell. Further, the new American divisions were 'cleaned up' doctrinally. They'd been cross training with American veterans, only the best were given this assignment, and so small unit tactics late in the war, with totally virgin infantry divisions, were night-and-day better than what was seen in Normandy. And Monty was sitting in the catbird's-seat as they rolled in.
One of them was the 104th. It was commanded by Terry Allen. He HATED Bradley. He couldn't have been HAPPIER than serving under Simpson and Monty. The 104th was an elite formation. Allen made it the sole and only night fighting infantry division in the USA. It pulled off miracles.
Need I say it? Monty just loved that division. It was constantly used as an infantry spearhead. It moved faster than most armored divisions, BTW. The Germans were simply not at all prepared for night attacks. They'd just fall apart. Simpson would batter them by day -- and then unleash Allen's 104th after nightfall. That's all she wrote.
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@JohnBurns
Wow, what are you smoking?
The Russians have been 'on the Baltic' all the way from Prussia, you moron.
The reason Monty needed Gavin was to stop them from marching into Denmark, indeed, conquering that whole nation.
The reason Ninth Army was removed from Monty was as a snub. It sure as hell surprised Monty. And he was NOT happy.
Ninth Army was 90% of his attack power. The rest of 21st Army Group was bled out... intolerant of casualties of any kind.
Six-years of bleeding was more than enough for those boys.
In Bradley's autobiography he relishes this humiliation of Monty -- quite bragging about the ENTIRE Russian-American front being just that.
Arriving after the surrender ceremony is NOT what Monty had in mind.
He'd insulted Ike, Bradley, Patton and Hodges -- repeatedly. That had consequences.
BTW, when NATO was founded, Ike and Monty were brought back into harness.
Once Ike left the scene, Monty was straight out the door.
Like hell he wanted to be around a superior that was his junior in the history books.
Even so, Monty continued to run down American military acumen until he died. He didn't have a kind word for Alexander, either. (!!!) He dissed him as being basically a pretty boy, harmless enough as long as he followed (Monty's) instruction.
What a pill.
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OKH failed to appreciate that Case Blue DEMANDED emphasis upon the rail net.
Germany didn't have the gasoline to support a truck fleet with that much 'reach.'
Even the Americans (1944-45) found that trucks can only take you so far. You must restore the rail net ASAP. The USA prioritized the rail link from Cherbourg to Paris, and even hauled British coal to Paris to get the train system back up and running, doing so with the Red Ball Express at one point. (!!)
"After a month of demining and repairs by American and French engineers, the port, completely razed by the Germans and the bombing, welcomed the first Liberty ships and became, until the victory of 1945, the largest port in the world, with traffic double that of New York.[45] It was also the endpoint of the gasoline which crossed the English Channel via the underwater pipeline PLUTO (Pipe Line Under The Ocean), and the starting point of the Red Ball Express, truck transport circuit to Chartres."
The German attempts at extending her Russian rail net were belated. The story is so embarrassing that you just about never read anything about it.
It's notable that the Nazis had access to French rail resources that could've entirely changed the picture. They refused to use them... probably as a matter of policy.
The massive Luftwaffe raids against Stalingrad were a triple crime: they consumed WAY too much fuel -- to no positive purpose. The raids destroyed the very assets that you'd think the Nazis would want for themselves. The raids provided the perfect terrain for the Soviet defense which would surely be a first class bitch. Lastly, they killed a lot of Russian civilians while providing absolutely no moral crisis for the larger Soviet Union.
The avgas consumed by the raids should've been given over to Ju-52 flights so that Army Groups A & B could roll on at exploitation speed -- taking critical objectives via motor-march -- as compared to fighting. This last gambit was what made Barbarossa so astonishing.
Army Group A was WAY TOO LARGE. 17th Army should've been reduced to a mountain corps, and given motorization -- say 2 mountain divisions and 1 jager division. The rest of that army should've been allocated to the main front -- 2nd Army in particular. A rump position west of the Kerch Strait would've sufficed. ( an infantry division or two being re-blooded )
1st Panzer Army should've given up most of its panzers to 4th and 2nd Panzer Armies -- and received GDm, 3m and 29m in exchange. You just don't need that many tanks, just motorized infantry. The bigger 1st Panzer Army gets, the harder it is to fuel up. It's destined to spend most of its time punching air. That had to be obvious.
All of these key decisions should've been made during the Halder era. He did more to advance the Allied cause than Adolf Hitler.
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@TIK... the General SS was the ORIGINAL SS organization. The Waffen SS was established only after Adolf was in power. It was the military wing of the SS that Hitler explicitly expected to use internally and externally against his foes.
During the Third Reich, the General SS expanded like topsy. It's role was strictly internal. Within its ranks: the Gestapo and SD. (The Gestapo was Goring's creature. He surrendered it to Himmler for a quid pro quo before WWII got rolling. )
Today, if you Google General SS you end up getting absurd links to SS generals... Waffen SS generals... which is totally off track.
The size of the General SS was staggering. It's where the factory goons were slotted. These guys patrolled the factory floors of Nazi Germany, hovering over forced labor -- not usually death camp labor. They numbered in the hundreds of thousands. You could've built armies in the field with this much manpower.
Consequently, EVERY significant industrial enterprise was -- de facto -- folded into Himmler's empire. He even established a parallel economy. Like the Soviet's GUM department store, General SS men could obtain luxuries denied to the general populous. They ran SS 'PX stores' rather like Costco (irony alert) where everything was better.
Himmler had a program to induce ALL technical talents into his General SS. Consequently, it was COMMON for the top brass within any industrial firm to wear the SS uniform -- being inducted -- but only on this or that ceremonial occasions. Von Baun was in the General SS, as was his boss. He only ever wore his major's uniform when he HAD to -- like visiting Dora -- twice.
This is why Himmler and Hitler didn't even have to wait for formal hearings about industrial policy. EVERY corporation -- even privately held ones -- was on their leash.
Famously, when Speer hauled the industrialists in for his first pow wow, every last one kissed his ring -- instantly. He promptly took control of ALL of their key policies. He forced upon them deals that they did not want to do, that they'd been resisting all along. Stuff like selling to their life-long business enemies and rivals.
So much for Nazi Capitalism.
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