Comments by "David Himmelsbach" (@davidhimmelsbach557) on "RE: NS is Socialism | Responding to your counterarguments and Further Explanation" video.

`ivory... you've got every thing totally backwards. in the late 19th century Conservatives were for trading blocks, tariffs and the church of england fused with the state. Liberals at that time would be virtually identical to late 20th century American Conservatives. They wanted free markets -- NO TARIFFS -- that was the battle line of that era. TARIFFS. Trading Blocks. At a deeper level Liberals wanted Free Trade with the immense power of the USA which was outside the British Empire. They saw the future. The Conservatives of the 19th Century were looking back into the past -- especially 1850-65 which was the absolute peak of British industrial superiority. After the American Civil War that society just ran away to become the largest steel nation in the world by 1890. This is something that the Liberals of Britain recognised -- how get America into Free Trade with Britain. Decades later all of these terms have become totally twisted around. Today's Liberals are for massive state intervention and today's Conservatives are hesitant. In Britain not so hesitant as long as THEY are ( via assets ) getting a huge fraction of that state spending -- one way or another: rents -- corporate contracts. The old Liberal ideas and the appeal of Tariffs have totally faded from modern minds-- as you so illustrate. You are astoundingly ignorant -- and don't comprehend a bit of it.
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EVERY Hard Left Regime is obsessed with eliminating religion. Hitler was at least as obsessed with eliminating Christianity as he was Judaism. He murdered the Christian clergy by the thousands -- even before turning on the Jews. Jewry was actually about forth place on Hitler's bucket list... something that is now obscured to most because of the fantastic level of emphasis on Hitler's anti-Jewish campaigns. Stalin was also totally atheist and also liquidated priests ( Greek Orthodox & Catholic ) by the thousands. Lenin termed religion the opiate of the masses and the Bolsheviks were obsessed with the notion that the Orthodox church was the PRIMARY reason that Russia was backwards. Likewise, the CCP is currently liquidating the Falun Gong in a murder spree as dirty as the Holomodor and the Holocaust. They are cutting up the faithful for body parts, thousands per DAY -- right now. The MSM: crickets. The economic argument is wrongly based. All points of the political spectrum have been caught adopting every manner of economic fad. FDR famously adopted el Duce's economic nostrums. ( not Hitler's ) The Supremes shot him down. Everybody making the economic philosophy argument is going off in the wrong direction. Religion -- ideology -- dominates politics. ALWAYS. That's why the Left was silent when Obomba stepped up drone strikes. You didn't hear a peep in the Press. There were no anti-war protests. Because Obomba's ideology is what counted, not any specific facts. The Russo-German war was between twin ideologies only separated by despots. They were both running virtually to the same program. The so-called privately owned German enterprises were total hostages to the SS and the Nazi Party. They were NOT private enterprises in the British or American sense. The SS was posted to every major German firm, as employees thereof. Such SS men were termed members of the General SS... not the Waffen SS. They numbered in the hundreds of thousands. The General SS also included the Gestapo and the SD. It was not a gentle crowd. Functionally, Hitler had replicated Stalin's system of immediate and personal political control. Firms didn't do what they wanted to do, they did what the Party and the SS and Hitler told them to do. Period. That's not private enterprise in anyone's book except a die hard Leftist -- of which so many are posting here. TIK is attacking their Religion, their Ideology. They can't stand the fact that they are running in the exact same ideological crowd as Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. But they are. At bottom they are anti-religion and are Collectivists. They want government as God. That's what they worship. It's been a bloodbath wherever it's been attempted.
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I can see by the thread that everyone is getting wound up trying to defend their pet economic theories, or how to structure some idea society. When it comes to the essence of Hard Left and Hard Right; the Hard Left is ALWAYS obsessed with destroying religion. The Hard Right is ALWAYS obsessed with fusing State and Religion. Islam fits that bill perfectly. Until the American Revolution, virtually EVERY nation on this planet fit that description; from Pharaoh to Henry VIII they fused king and religion. The above reality overwhelms ALL economic notions. Collectivism can be practiced from the Left or the Right. One can do it straight up... or do it indirectly. Virtually ALL current societies practice Collectivism in the INDIRECT manner -- via VAT taxes and Income taxes. With enough re-distribution, you end up in the exact same spot as if you've got full bore Socialism. Government spending, as a percentage of the GDP, is through the roof across most of Europe. That's de facto Socialism. Benefits are sure to shower upon you as if you owned a slice of the economy, even though you don't hold any stock certificates. Further, even nominally independent, capitalist firms, have to bow and scrape to government edicts at least as intrusive as anything the Nazis cooked up. And the Nazis stationed SS men all across the German economy. These fellas never get portrayed on film, so youngsters don't even have a CLUE as to how Nazi Germany functioned. This, even after TIK has tried to lay it out. It goes in one ear and out the other. Further, I read posts indicating that Hitler privatized firms. WHAT? He was no Margaret Thatcher, not by a long shot. Hitler never privatized any firm. Quite the reverse was the case. De facto, Hitler had State Sponsored Enterprises: firms that had free and easy access to loans. If you were attempting to build a coal - to - liquid fuels plant, your funding would be unlimited. And as the USSR and Red China show even today, racial repression is COMMON for Socialist// Communist societies. It comes in so many different flavors. Even Chavez ran a racial discrimination program. That's why there was 100% employee turnover at his national oil company. It never recovered, of course. Ideology -- religion -- trumps economics.
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