Comments by "ElevenB" (@elevenb6967) on "Business Insider"
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@yusdesoto3975 That's cute. But basic is just that....BASIC. You're learning basic $hit. Every soldier knows, especially combat arms, that the REAL training begins when you get to your PDS.
Also, you can't be a 'kid' to be an 18 series.
Also, if you wanna go Ranger right out of OSUT, you will have to go through the tab course, then jump school, then the selection process. You WILL be challenged. So, even if you are a 'scrawny kid', I'm pretty sure you won't be, once you've gone through the aforementioned courses. Trust me, you don't just get in.
Either way, you're making it seem as though basic is the be all, end all, like the Marines do. It's NOT! Even leg units can be (and usually are) FULL of killers. Ask me how I know.
"All the tough guys are already out or are getting ready to leave the army."
ALL? Please tell me how you know this to be a fact.
I'll wait....
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@kingtiger5040
The fact that the marines opted to "get rid of their tanks" has zero to do with the army. And what exactly is "amphibious warfare", anyway? The marines are basically the navy's infantry. (Pogs notwithstanding) The marines do NOT fight on water. That's strictly navy echelon. I know it sounds bad@$$ to say "the marines are amphibious". But, the truth is, they get transportation to the battlefield, which is decidedly NOT on water. It's on LAND.
If the United States' mission (Which, BTW, is FAR more important than what the marines' self-proclamation/designation is) is to call on the army for the purpose of an 'island hopping' FTX, to ready themselves for an eventual showdown with China, let them. It can only benefit us as a WHOLE. (Something a lot of marines have trouble realizing.)
Fact is, irrespective of how bad marines claim to be, they ain't handling China's boots all by themselves. Not at a paltry 170,000 (mostly pogs) they're not. Without the army, the marines would be cooked like a brisket at a Texas BBQ. The NATION should come first. Not the branch. Especially since we ALL play for the same team. How you get to the fight is pretty much academic. It's what you are when you get there that matters. And that's infantry.
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@rjkurtz Speaking of adorable....I think it's cute that you actually said that the army is peewee football's equivalent. I'm actually fighting back tears, that was so precious.
Where do you think this country would be, if the army just went away? Do you actually think that you could handle Russia, or China, or even Pakistan all by yourselves? Hahahahahahaha!!!!! I am an American citizen who gave a decade of his life to his country as an Airborne infantryman. And, despite the fact that you crayon crunching Gomers haven't the first damned CLUE what the term 'brothers in arms' means (much less respect), I won't say that that is something that I'd love to see. (You wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell, sonny boy.)
But, you'd better believe me when I tell you....that, if you take away the marines, and our boots would STILL hold their own up against any op-for's boots on the planet.
Take away the ARMY, and you'll all be in the afterlife, taking turns tugging goo out of Chesty Puller's d*ck, smearing all over your puke faces, wait for it to dry, and then peel it off and eat it like a potato chip.
Now, run along, and parade your purdy dress blues down the catwalk, and tell everyone how badass you THINK you are. While the army kicks ass just like it has in every single war since this country was still peeing the bed. 🤣
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@rjkurtz Ah yes....That old uniform thing rears its head again. LOL (Yup, runway waifs parading down the catwalk...lol)
We care about keeping this country powerful, and safe, leaving the modeling to the girls.
FACT: The army implemented the camo (BDU) pattern FIRST
FACT: The army started calling cadence FIRST (Google Willie Duckworth)
FACT: The marines, to feather their caps, to facilitate promotion, go to Armor school, Jump school, Ranger school, and Pathfinder school. Name a single marine school that the army attends to feather their caps? I'll wait....
I have a funny feeling that 'dropped mic' will be picked up again.....and again......aaannd again. ;-)
"Army simply stands for Aint Ready to be a Marine Yet"
That would be ARTBAMY. Please learn what an acronym is, Gomer. LOL!
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@rjkurtz Hee hee hee.....
Let me rip this Gomer's jabberwocky to shreds.....
"Now let’s talk about those schools huh? Why would the Marines WASTE money funding their own school when they can just go to an Army school that teaches the same thing/standard?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! If the army is SO inept, why would you GO to those aforementioned schools? That's fuzzy math! LMAO!! You talk about wasting money. Money that your poor asses DON'T have. That's one piss poor excuse, son. I LOL-ed!
"But you know what DOESN’T happen? MARINES NEVER attend Army Infantry school, why? Army infantry could NEVER meet the standards and skills set by the Marine School of infantry. In a tactical competition between the two groups, Marines are the Dream Team."
Is THAT what you think? Okay, Gomer....Let's roll the dice. Please explain the EXACT DIFFERNCES, in terms of the branches' respective TACSOPs, that makes the marine corps superior. This is the answer I most look forward to.
"Also, Marines don’t go to Army Sniper school why? Because Marines have the most elite marksmen in the world."
Is that so? Hmmmm....Then, perhaps you can explain why, since 2001, a total of ONE MARINE has won the International Sniper Competition. ONE! EIN! IL! UNO! UNE! How elite can you really be? LMFAO! Wait...Did you miss it? I say again....ONE! In fact, the latest was won by a "Nasty Girl". Imagine a Guardsman beating a juggernaut marine. Hahaha! Say it ain't so!
"Marines don’t have the budget that the Army has, so we save money attending Army schools. Once we complete those undisciplined schools, we return to our own units and sharpen the loose bolts caused by Army standards."
This made absolutely zero sense, man. I mean, none. You say the army sucks, is undisciplined, and inferior. How can omnipotent super beings such as yourselves, be taught ANYTHING from an inferior branch? I mean, wouldn't it be akin to little Johnny, who just got his yellow belt last week, teaching Bruce Lee self defense techniques? LOL! And while you're thinking up some nonsensical answer, that is CERTAIN to be laden with pure, unadulterated comedy, let's continue.
"I have seen with my own eyes how Army dogs all yell “Follow Me” and scatter as individual soldiers."
Really? You've seen it with your own eyes?
I mean, just wow. This is literally like listening to a politician talk. You already know that everything coming out of his mouth is a damn lie. What unit did you see do that? Where was it? God damn, I don't even know why I bothered to even address this absolute lunacy. This is one of the silliest things you've written so far. (STILL laughing)
"But my Marines only work as a team. We only become individual soldiers when we are the last one alive."
Your bull$hit is actually starting to bore me. You're just not equipped with the knowledge, the intellect, nor the honesty to debate me. There are so few of you in these comments section It's almost refreshing to see marines actually give props to soldiers, and call them brothers, fighting for the same team. Though rare. You are a complete mess, sir. And a dry-faced liar, to boot.
"Army uniform standards could NEVER rise to Marine Standards."
It amazes me that you guys care so much about purdy ass uniforms, when absolutely NONE of that $hit matters in war. Anything that's 'different', to the marines, is inferior. Yet, if anything becomes even remotely similar, it's "WAAAAA THEY'RE TRYING TO COPY US!" You guys have no freakin clue. It's sad. Quite comical, but sad, at the same time.
"Our discipline is unmatched. That’s why MARINES guard EVERY American Embassy in the world as well as the Whitehouse."
"Oh, so you want props for pulling guard duty? That's adorable. I've said this before, and now I'll school YOU. The whole embassy thing? LOL! Stop it. No special infantry training needed. You're sentries. Nothing more. An old bald guy from Publicover could do it. There are approximately1700 MCESG's. Give, or take a couple, you number less than 10 per embassy. Now, pay attention, Gomer. It's about to get real, as they say in the vernacular.....If a country's military decided to bum rush the embassy, do you really think that a few marines would be able to quell them? Don't be a clown, man. You bring up this foolish $hit, thinking we're just gonna swallow it? I'm smarter than that. You should have left that crap in your head, son. You just made yourself look like a complete bozo! LOL!! As for the White House (Two separate words, BTW)....Again, that's cute, but another damn lie. I THINK it's pretty common knowledge that the SECRET SERVICE guards the White House. You guys are, again, just sentries in purdy dress blues. Kinda like nutcrackers. I bet most of those guards aren't even grunts. They grab the Gomers with the squared jaws, give them high-and-tights, and now they're supposed to be imposing figures. Hahahaha! Really now!
"We are the Raiders, the Invaders, the Revenge Hammers. We are who you send when America wants to make a loud Statement."
Who were the very first grunt boots on the ground in OIF? I'll give you a hint. It WASN'T THE MARINE CORPS. That bravo goes to the 3ID. And what statement can YOU make, that the army can't? How does YOUR infantry training compare with ARMY infantry training? Again, what makes them markedly different?
"If you want to talk about who did what first, the French started the beret first.
And the Army still uses it to this day in MULTIPLE divisions. Marines are too busy trying to look like AMERICAN warriors rather than French artists."
Reading comprehension much? I never mentioned French berets. We're talking army vs. marines here, since YOU brought up who did what first. Why are you bringing up berets? LOL!! I'd bet every dime I've ever made in my LIFE...That if the marines started wearing berets first, you guys would be nutting all over them. It's freakin headgear. Get over it.
"By the way, “leaving the modeling to the girls” made me laugh because even our FEMALE marines could destroy you Army brats (aside from SpecOps)."
I don't think that even YOU are dumb enough to really believe that. I mean, seriously. If you are, then all hope for you is lost. You are the tard that I initially thought you were. Gatdamn, that was precious! LMFAO!
"Air assault school is a joke, Ranger School is a joke. Green Beret school has lost its Umph that it once had."
I see. And you've been through all of these schools to make that assessment, right? What did you do in the marines that trumped RIP? Assuming you went through it. They're a joke, yet, marines go to those schools to feather their caps. Don't know about you, but I know I wouldn't want to go to a school that was a joke. I KNOW you're just talking out of your ass. And I know that YOU know you're talking out of your ass. 🤣
"Army Basic Training is just a little harder than kindergarten now and Drill Sergeants have been castrated in terms of power and intimidation tactics. Rangers lead the way to a dead end. Marines model so we can show you how it’s done.
I’m running out of mics to drop."
Basic is a little harder than kindergarten?
LOL!!! You truly are a remedial student.
My suggestion to you is that you stop dropping those mics. You're going to waste tons of money buying new ones.
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The 2nd part of your name is perfect, because that's EXACTLY what you know. I say again, you Gomers are completely (and eerily) obsessed with your big brothers. Literally every single Army video that exists on YT, you are 99.9% guaranteed to see some silly Gomer in the comments section talking smack
Not only that, you're not being truthful. But wait....I could be in error...Maybe you're NOT lying. Maybe it's what your DI's spoon-fed you while in boot, and you bought it without question. Maybe they told you that General Lowe uttered that quote. No Army General would EVER disrespect his own men (Who kicked ass, BTW) for some puffed up pukes, suffering from delusions of superiority. I searched the internet for that quote. Can you imagine my utter shock, when I noticed that every single link was to some Marine rag? Go figure. You guys have zero respect for your brothers in arms. Every infantry Soldier knows that the REAL hardcore training begins when you get to your PDS. You guys don't talk about anything else but boot. It's as if it's the biggest thing you'll ever do in your entire career. It's quite comical, actually.
Deflate that head of yours, son. Marines aren't any better than the Army's infantry. In fact, you're exactly the same. Change my mind, Gomer. I welcome the challenge.
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Stop your bellyaching, kid. You have no idea what you're talking about. Every army grunt knows that the REAL hardcore training begins when you get to your PDS. Basic is just that.....Basic. That said, infantry drills are still very much in your face. They're playing nice, because this is scripted, and they're being told what to say, and what to do. But, the very instant those cameras stop rolling, it's hell on earth. (Ask me how I know)
Despite what this silly video is showing, the United States Army is STILL the most powerful army on terra firma. Say what you will, but I bet you'd rather be anywhere else on the planet, than the enemy downrange.
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@mrg09211976
If that's true, then perhaps you can explain why, for the entire 22-week cycle, you have the same mean @$$ kill hats, screaming at you, calling you everything but a child of God, while smoking the ever loving $H1+ out of you. If your mos is 11 Bravo, you're going to Benning. And there, you will STAY, until you graduate 22 weeks later.
If you're a marine, and you've not been to Benning, it's best you keep what you THINK you know to yourself. Because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. -_-
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@yusdesoto3975 If you think, for one millisecond, that kill hats can even remotely simulate the stress of real war, I have some beautiful tropical beachfront property to sell you in Des Moines.
Again, the REAL training begins once you get to your PDS. However, the training in OSUT is awesome, despite the powers wanting to eliminate screaming/name calling.
There were no kill hats during WW2. And look how the US kicked ass in that war. Drills screaming bloody murder is relatively new. I, personally think it has its place. I experienced it. I like it. But, at the risk of being redundant, it is not the be all, end all.
You can STILL be a killer without kill hats all in your face.
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