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@ingela_injeela I told you to read Ezekiel 18, that will explain why Jesus was useless in dying for sins, as anybody, no matter how cruel or evil can attain forgiveness from G-D. Also if you actually read Isaiah 48-56 you would understand Isaiah 53 is again talking about the House of Israel (Jews) not some Messiah. “My servant” refers to us, the Jews, as it always has when G-D established the Covenant. The problem with Christianity is you copy our scripture and render it to fit your values and ideas. The Hebrew Bible is G-D’s words to US, written by Jews for US, meant to be interpreted by US. All the prophecies, commandments, rules, laws, words are for US. Sorry but you are a Gentile and there is no reason why Gentiles need a Messiah, it doesn’t make sense.
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@SPY10070 okay here we go.
1) there is no concept of the trinity in the Bible. Moses even asked G-D about this verse “let’s make man in our Own image” and G-D said “whoever wishes to err will err…” (midrash) G-D consulted the angels, the earth, and the Heavens to create Man. G-D said “In Our Image” also for Man to have the 10 attributes of the 10 commandments within us. We will always strive for righteousness as we have the image of G-D within us.
2) Do you think G-D can simply vanquish the Devil as easily as a mere human? If not then it’s idolatry.
3) The Cross and the Lamb sacrifice are not connected. We don’t view the Lamb as an idol, we don’t pray, prostrate or worship the Lamb nor is it on our temples.
4) No the Christians that consistently massacred Jews throughout the millennia were true Christians. What makes you a true Christian? There’s 100000 denominations how do you know yours is true? Also man to man let’s be honest, if we had this conversation 500 years ago you would threaten me on the pain of death to convert to Christianity, let’s not fool ourselves…
4) why do I need Jesus? I have G-D, who I love and fear, Jesus brings nothing to my life he is but a mere man who was Jewish. G-D power is limitless you don’t need Jesus or a “son” of G-D.
5) the New Testament is antisemitic. Isn’t it convientent in Christianity you can do whatever the hell you want, then pray to Jesus and your forgiven batta bing batta boom, plus G-D abolished all the commandments just for gentiles really? Give me a break lol
I appreciate Christian support for Israel, but please, stop trying to proselytize us.
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@Hmm-xy9qs 1) Yes we all know every Jew has a differing opinion lol.
2) The Messiah is an age and a person. Read closely about what I'm about to write but I have an inkling you already know about this if you've read medieval rabbinic commentary & Kabbalah. The Messiah will come and fulfill all the requirements of him, whether its Jesus Christ or some other descendant of King David... Who knows? Once the Messiah accomplishes all these tasks, he will bring about the Messianic Era. Shortly after the Messianic Era the "Seventh Millennium" will arrive, (Which according to the Hebrew Calendar is in 216 years.) The Seventh Millennium corresponds with the 6 days of creation, and then total rest... So the entire seventh millennium (216 years from now) will have total peace and tranquility brought upon by the Messiah & the Messianic Era. I don't think Ive ever read anything about what happens after the Seventh Millennia & the World to Come, whether it's permanent or temporary is debatable.
2.5) The Messianic Chabad movement is very small. Similar to your Unitarian Universalist movement (They don't believe in the Trinity but do believe in Jesus Christ) Just like how Unitarian Universalist don't respresent Christianity, the Messianic Chabad movement doesn't represent Rabbinical Judaism. Another thing to note about the Chabad Rebbe, he was seen as the literal leader of American Judaism, any question or problem you had, you asked him. It's reasonable to say some Jews (ESPECIALLY after the Holocaust where at that time in the 80's/90's many Jews still knew/lost loved ones in the Holocaust) would WANT to see the Rebbe as the Messiah... I mean how can the Messianic Era not come after the Holocaust?
3) Yes Rabbi's & Sage's have written opinions that could fall in line with Christianity, however WE WILL NOT worship the Messiah. The Messiah will be a mere man with breath in his nostrils. WE WILL NOT worship, pray, or fear the Messiah, WE WILL ONLY follow him into the Seventh Millennium & the World to Come... THATS IT.
Ill give you this, I will follow Jesus Christ when he rises from the dead, fulfills ALL of the requirements of the Messiah and leads the Jews into the Messianic Era & the World to Come... ONLY then will I follow him, but I will never worship him. I will only fear and love G-D.
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@Hmm-xy9qs 1) Yes we all know every Jew has a differing opinion lol.
2) The Messiah is an age and a person. Read closely about what I'm about to write but I have an inkling you already know about this if you've read medieval rabbinic commentary & Kabbalah. The Messiah will come and fulfill all the requirements of him, whether its Jesus Christ or some other descendant of King David... Who knows? Once the Messiah accomplishes all these tasks, he will bring about the Messianic Era. Shortly after the Messianic Era the "Seventh Millennium" will arrive, (Which according to the Hebrew Calendar is in 216 years.) The Seventh Millennium corresponds with the 6 days of creation, and then total rest... So the entire seventh millennium (216 years from now) will have total peace and tranquility brought upon by the Messiah & the Messianic Era. I don't think Ive ever read anything about what happens after the Seventh Millennia & the World to Come, whether it's permanent or temporary is debatable.
2.5) The Messianic Chabad movement is very small. Similar to your Unitarian Universalist movement (They don't believe in the Trinity but do believe in Jesus Christ) Just like how Unitarian Universalist don't respresent Christianity, the Messianic Chabad movement doesn't represent Rabbinical Judaism. Another thing to note about the Chabad Rebbe, he was seen as the literal leader of American Judaism, any question or problem you had, you asked him. It's reasonable to say some Jews (ESPECIALLY after the Holocaust where at that time in the 80's/90's many Jews still knew/lost loved ones in the Holocaust) would WANT to see the Rebbe as the Messiah... I mean how can the Messianic Era not come after the Holocaust?
3) Yes Rabbi's & Sage's have written opinions that could fall in line with Christianity, however WE WILL NOT worship the Messiah. The Messiah will be a mere man with breath in his nostrils. WE WILL NOT worship, pray, or fear the Messiah, WE WILL ONLY follow him into the Seventh Millennium & the World to Come... THATS IT.
Ill give you this, I will follow Jesus Christ when he rises from the dead, fulfills ALL of the requirements of the Messiah and leads the Jews into the Messianic Era & the World to Come... ONLY then will I follow him, but I will never worship him. I will only fear and love G-D.
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@Hmm-xy9qs 1) Yes we all know every Jew has a differing opinion lol.
2) The Messiah is an age and a person. Read closely about what I'm about to write but I have an inkling you already know about this if you've read medieval rabbinic commentary & Kabbalah. The Messiah will come and fulfill all the requirements of him, whether its Jesus Christ or some other descendant of King David... Who knows? Once the Messiah accomplishes all these tasks, he will bring about the Messianic Era. Shortly after the Messianic Era the "Seventh Millennium" will arrive, (Which according to the Hebrew Calendar is in 216 years.) The Seventh Millennium corresponds with the 6 days of creation, and then total rest... So the entire seventh millennium (216 years from now) will have total peace and tranquility brought upon by the Messiah & the Messianic Era. I don't think Ive ever read anything about what happens after the Seventh Millennia & the World to Come, whether it's permanent or temporary is debatable.
2.5) The Messianic Chabad movement is very small. Similar to your Unitarian Universalist movement (They don't believe in the Trinity but do believe in Jesus Christ) Just like how Unitarian Universalist don't respresent Christianity, the Messianic Chabad movement doesn't represent Rabbinical Judaism. Another thing to note about the Chabad Rebbe, he was seen as the literal leader of American Judaism, any question or problem you had, you asked him. It's reasonable to say some Jews (ESPECIALLY after the Holoca*** where at that time in the 80's/90's many Jews still knew/lost loved ones in the Holoca***) would WANT to see the Rebbe as the Messiah... I mean how can the Messianic Era not come after the Holocaust?
3) Yes Rabbi's & Sage's have written opinions that could fall in line with Christianity, however WE WILL NOT worship the Messiah. The Messiah will be a mere man with breath in his nostrils. WE WILL NOT worship, pray, or fear the Messiah, WE WILL ONLY follow him into the Seventh Millennium & the World to Come... THATS IT.
Ill give you this, I will follow Jesus Christ when he rises from the dead, fulfills ALL of the requirements of the Messiah and leads the Jews into the Messianic Era & the World to Come... ONLY then will I follow him, but I will never worship him. I will only fear and love G-D.
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@Hmm-xy9qs let’s see if it goes through this time
1) Yes we all know every Jew has a differing opinion lol.
2) The Messiah is an age and a person. Read closely about what I'm about to write but I have an inkling you already know about this if you've read medieval rabbinic commentary & Kabbalah. The Messiah will come and fulfill all the requirements of him, whether its Jesus Christ or some other descendant of King David... Who knows? Once the Messiah accomplishes all these tasks, he will bring about the Messianic Era. Shortly after the Messianic Era the "Seventh Millennium" will arrive, (Which according to the Hebrew Calendar is in 216 years.) The Seventh Millennium corresponds with the 6 days of creation, and then total rest... So the entire seventh millennium (216 years from now) will have total peace and tranquility brought upon by the Messiah & the Messianic Era. I don't think Ive ever read anything about what happens after the Seventh Millennia & the World to Come, whether it's permanent or temporary is debatable.
2.5) The Messianic Chabad movement is very small. Similar to your Unitarian Universalist movement (They don't believe in the Trinity but do believe in Jesus Christ) Just like how Unitarian Universalist don't respresent Christianity, the Messianic Chabad movement doesn't represent Rabbinical Judaism. Another thing to note about the Chabad Rebbe, he was seen as the literal leader of American Judaism, any question or problem you had, you asked him. It's reasonable to say some Jews (ESPECIALLY after the Holocaust where at that time in the 80's/90's many Jews still knew/lost loved ones in the Holocaust) would WANT to see the Rebbe as the Messiah... I mean how can the Messianic Era not come after the Holocaust?
3) Yes Rabbi's & Sage's have written opinions that could fall in line with Christianity, however WE WILL NOT worship the Messiah. The Messiah will be a mere man with breath in his nostrils. WE WILL NOT worship, pray, or fear the Messiah, WE WILL ONLY follow him into the Seventh Millennium & the World to Come... THATS IT.
Ill give you this, I will follow Jesus Christ when he rises from the dead, fulfills ALL of the requirements of the Messiah and leads the Jews into the Messianic Era & the World to Come... ONLY then will I follow him, but I will never worship him. I will only fear and love G-D.
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@Hmm-xy9qs this is part 2
2.5) The Messianic Chabad movement is very small. Similar to your Unitarian Universalist movement (They don't believe in the Trinity but do believe in Jesus Christ) Just like how Unitarian Universalist don't respresent Christianity, the Messianic Chabad movement doesn't represent Rabbinical Judaism. Another thing to note about the Chabad Rebbe, he was seen as the literal leader of American Judaism, any question or problem you had, you asked him. It's reasonable to say some Jews (ESPECIALLY after the Holocaust where at that time in the 80's/90's many Jews still knew/lost loved ones in the Holocaust) would WANT to see the Rebbe as the Messiah... I mean how can the Messianic Era not come after the Holocaust?
3) Yes Rabbi's & Sage's have written opinions that could fall in line with Christianity, however WE WILL NOT worship the Messiah. The Messiah will be a mere man with breath in his nostrils. WE WILL NOT worship, pray, or fear the Messiah, WE WILL ONLY follow him into the Seventh Millennium & the World to Come... THATS IT.
Ill give you this, I will follow Jesus Christ when he rises from the dead, fulfills ALL of the requirements of the Messiah and leads the Jews into the Messianic Era & the World to Come... ONLY then will I follow him, but I will never worship him. I will only fear and love G-D.
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@Hmm-xy9qs this is part 2
2.5) The Messianic Chabad movement is very small. Similar to your Unitarian Universalist movement (They don't believe in the Trinity but do believe in Jesus Christ) Just like how Unitarian Universalist don't respresent Christianity, the Messianic Chabad movement doesn't represent Rabbinical Judaism. Another thing to note about the Chabad Rebbe, he was seen as the literal leader of American Judaism, any question or problem you had, you asked him. It's reasonable to say some Jews (ESPECIALLY after the H*** where at that time in the 80's/90's many Jews still knew/lost loved ones in the H*** ) would WANT to see the Rebbe as the Messiah... I mean how can the Messianic Era not come after the Holocaust?
3) Yes Rabbi's & Sage's have written opinions that could fall in line with Christianity, however WE WILL NOT worship the Messiah. The Messiah will be a mere man with breath in his nostrils. WE WILL NOT worship, pray, or fear the Messiah, WE WILL ONLY follow him into the Seventh Millennium & the World to Come... THATS IT.
Ill give you this, I will follow Jesus Christ when he rises from the dead, fulfills ALL of the requirements of the Messiah and leads the Jews into the Messianic Era & the World to Come... ONLY then will I follow him, but I will never worship him. I will only fear and love G-D.
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@Hmm-xy9qs This is a good reply!
Just to clarify, a Rabbi is neither a master nor a leader. A Rabbi is a Torah Scholar first and teacher second. I don’t agree with your statement about Rabbi’s teaching their interpretation of Torah instead of teaching the plain scripture. As I’ve said, a Rabbi is a teacher, not a leader. The Torah & Tanakh is difficult to understand without commentary, interpretation, introspection, and communication with other Torah students and Rabbi’s. Personally I don’t think there is one universal meaning for every verse in the Bible, there’s different explanations for verses coming out even today! It’s important to look at the Sages, Medieval Rabbi’s, Targum, etc for clarification on Torah. It’s unlikely a Rabbi is going to ignore these works in order to not have bias regarding his teaching, also some Rabbis have started their own school’s of thought, going against the majority opinion which is how we got Hasidism, Kabbalah, and the Zohar! (Especially Hasidism!!!) Honestly you’re not entirely wrong, two years ago I would have agreed with most of what your saying, but I’ve since moved away from that opinion, sure there are some bad Rabbi’s but they are not the majority. Some Jew’s actually agree with you which is why we have Karaite Judaism, one of the only other “Denominations” of Judaism as a whole.
One thing to note is in my opinion, it’s entirely possible Judaism would have died with the destruction of the Second Temple. Rabbi’s transformed Judaism from a religion centered around our Holy Land, which was centered around the Temple, and turned it into a religion that can be practiced at any place in the world, they helped lessen the blow of the destruction of the Temple. Regarding your comment on Rabbi’s saying they place their authority over G-D, if you could point out one Rabbi in real life who has said this, I would be shocked. This ties into the Rabbinical Court in Israel which is NOT liked as Israeli’s feel like they overstep their authority and power.
You say Rabbi’s teach according to what each other say but there is a VAST amount of differing opinions on so many works. Kabbalah literally rose out of a completely different interpretation of the Bible. There’s medieval commentators that write on total different ends of the spectrum. You can literally choice what flavor of commentary you want to complement your Torah study. But yes a Rabbi is generally going to follow a set of guidelines when teaching, considering the type of religiosity where he is employed such as Reform, Orthodox, Chabad, or Hasidism schools/universities.
Regarding the validity of the Oral Torah. It is a pointless debate, we’ve been arguing about its validity since Korach’s time lol. There’s good reasons for and against the validity and I don’t feel like taking the most popular reasons for it and writing it here. Instead I’ll tell you why I personally believe the authority of the Oral Torah. My opinion is that there’s good enough reason to believe not everything was written down in the Torah, more laws and precise details were transmitted orally. Which is why it’s common when you read some of the more obscure rules in the Tanakh and come away with not truly understanding it. There’s already enough research that proves for the most part when oral customs/cultures are eventually written down, it’s mostly accurate. Now is it entirely accurate according to when G-D taught Moses on Mount Sinai? Maybe not. Was the Oral Torah influenced by the Sanhedrin/Sages/Rabbi’s? Sure, maybe. I’m also confused regarding your comment that Rabbi’s would lose all their power and authority without Halakha, considering religious Jews are the minority compared to non-religious Jews… The Talmud has an extraordinary wealth of knowledge, and to just throw it away because we can’t prove the validity and accuracy would truly be a shame. At the end of the day you can have your own opinion but me and many other Jew’s truly believe our Rabbi’s help us bring us closer to G-D.
One thing to note, I’ve mentioned “Karaite Judaism” as another denomination, which one of their core beliefs is that they don’t believe in the Bavli or Jerusalem Talmud or Rabbi’s yet however its funny because they have their own version of the “Talmud” that helps them understand Torah… lol
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