Comments by "Thurso Berwick" (@thursoberwick1948) on "m o d e r n i t y" channel.

@joannietrotter2344 Why are we mentioning Elton John in the breath as the New York Dolls or Bowie, or even Queen? He sold out in the seventies and hasn't done anything decent since then... If he ever did much good before.
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Just imagine how many people will think this ID on their phones is just about ςονιδ & ναςςιnατιοns when it's never going away.
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@kym4468 Most people already think it's normal to have cameras in every nook and cranny, even in their own homes.
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@maykoforgets1305 I don't know whether this is "stopped clock" syndrome or not, but at least he's saying something different from Elton John, Bono and Sting just now who seem to be just mouthpieces for Dανοs.
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The only problem is that he never had much of a mind to speak. He's right here.
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@sherriesmith2587 This isn't even good Marx. Marx discussed the proletariat overthrowing the bourgeoisie. We have big business in alliance with government everywhere.
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@novclo Bowie wore a dress on one of his album covers. Just saying.
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@novclo Bowie wore a dress on one of his album covers. Just saying. Freddy wore one in one of his eighties videos.
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I hate him, but he's right.
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His family are Catholic. That puts a damper on most of them going to the funny handshake club.
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You can't. Now you're going to need sмагтрћопе IDs to get into concerts and nightclubs. Thank Boris. In fact, don't thank Boris. Thank the шогlδ Есопомiс Fогυм for it. A hundred other countries are doing the same thing. In fact, you'll need one for doing anything.
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The noun is "hatred". Using "hate" as a noun is straight out of "1984".
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@sandragrushoff9844 There is actually a helluva lot of Orwellian stuff going on just now. The censorship and weird use of repeated phrases, the regular appearance of helicopters over many major cities (this seems to have died down)... Even our encouragement to do exercise via TV/internet (that's in the book). But I also see the authorities constantly flipflopping and denying they've changed their position which is also in the book. Facebook etc do this to. Witness the following: * Early last year we were told masks were useless. * Last year, the idea that it was a lαβ escape was a conspiracy theory. this year it's okay to say it because Biden says it's a possibility and it's being investigated. * Last year smartphone tracking ID was a "conspiracy theory", this year they're forcing it on us slowly - nightclubs next). I disagree with the term anti-vaxxer which is being thrown around just now. People have a whole range of views on this subject, and many of the people who are concerned about the current shots are not necessarily against traditional jags. Others I know are/have been recently pregnant, while others have health concerns due to a family history of sтгокеs etc. They're not all in the same class. A lot of people are concerned about the creeping authoritarianism even when they've had the jags as well. So they hardly qualify. There are big questions to be asked. How do a hundred countries - including the UK - all end up trying to inttoduce the same compulsory smartphone "pass" system all by themselves? Answer they don't. This has been discussed somewhere behind closed doors with no democratic oversight, and Boris is part of that.
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@sandragrushoff9844 In regard to Noel specifically, some of his points are valid. There is a definite restriction of expression I see around me. In a liberal democracy, we can't just ban everything we disagree with, in fact some ugly opinions are essential to a democracy. Unlike Noel, I can't stand football - if I got absolute power, I might ban it or defund it, or at least lower its profile... But since I don't, I have to put up with it. I'm not a fan of drugs, but.I do think British drug policy has been too influenced by the failed ideas of the USA.
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He's not going to answer you here is he. But here's a definition for you:- "poststructural cultural manipulation with a hidden ideological end".
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@Marko25Polo Because young people can cause trouble, and they have little desire for that.
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We have them because you take the authorities at their word. Much of it is not scientific and inconsistent. * Have you not noticed that Asda, Tesco or Amazon can do what the F they want when small businesses are destroyed? * That some businesses refuse cash as unhygienic but then get you to order off a dirty touchscreen? * That for months people flew in from other continents but were banned from going into their neighbour's house? * That restrictions were put on freedom of speech, of religious practice and even on hiking? More people are dying worldwide because of suicide, poverty/bankruptcy and heart attacks caused by this than the actual bug now. Your џах argument is full of holes to. Why does it require digital smartphone ID to go along with it?
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"things will go back to normal" They won't. You'll need to be tracked and traced forever. Boris now says you need an electronic ID to go into a flipping nighclub. Next it will be every pub, cafe and shop. We're halfway there already and if you tolerate it, it will never go away.
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@mergendy Not sure which part you're referring to, but the IDs for everyday life are very real and even that great conspiracy rag the Guardian is talking about them: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/29/vaccine-passport-plan-intended-to-coax-young-to-have-jabs-says-raab
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@mergendy I wish you were right and I was wrong, but unfortunately this is being discussed in the mainstream press already. These IDs were also being discussed long before the Big Bug came along - Matt Hancock discussed them back in 2017 for example. Nothing to do with "growing up", it's all there in front of you. Now please read some of these links I send you... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/13/vaccine-passport-firm-says-system-could-redeployed-national/
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@mergendy This is an international scheme, and is being introduced in a hundred states. In many of them, as with the UK, there is mission creep, i.e. it starts with big things and works down to smaller things. That is exactly what is happening in the UK. It started with travel, has worked down to sports games, and now to nightclubs. The infrastructure is already there in many British pubs to scan in - it only needs a minor change to facilitate that. Some of the countries which have introduced this across the board are already finding that it is causing chaos. Here is another link about what is happening in Israel with this, and what could happen here. I suggest you read it - this is from the Telegraph "Theatres, pools, sports events, bars and restaurants [in Israel] were instructed to deny entrance to those not carrying a Green Pass." http://web.archive.org/web/20210612103310/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/27/vaccine-passports-backfire-case-israel-shows/
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@mergendy a) This is not what you had in Austria in 1987. It isn't "paranoia", it is a current fact. This is something that restricts where you can go (an ID card can't do that), is hooked up to your phone and also monitors who you meet (also not possible with an ID card.) b) It is utter BS to dress this up as a "health measure", since it isn't actually any good at preventing the spread of disease. It has, however, been discussed by politicians on and off for the past decade or so. Many countries were proposing this system for driving licences How do one hundred countries come up with the exact same idea independently at the same time? We'd best not be paranoid, though, eh, it must just be a "coincidence". We have three parties trying to force this through - Conservatives in England, Labour in Wales and the SNP in Scotland. Why bother voting if you get the same policies off different parties? This is not the logical solution to this crisis, and is going to hammer folk economically even more since small businesses will have to pay for the equipment. I'd rather not take Austria as an example. You guys walked into three dictatorships - Dolfuss, Hitler and then Communist influence for a short period (although you managed to wriggle out of that last one unlike your neighbours). Austrians have a poor track record in sticking up for their personal freedoms in the past century or so.
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@mergendy p.s. Well aware of the deaths, and know someone who was hospitalised with it, but the vast majority of people get mild or no symptoms (>80-90%), and 99%+ do not die from it. In fact the symptoms are so mild that you have to have a test to know whether you have it in many cases. It has already whipped through most of the Europea population last year and did little to most of them including me. The elderly are the biggest group at risk from it, as are those with other issues. They're the ones who should be protected. Rates of suicide and heart attacks are higher due to this situation than to infection. The risk to people from 15-50 is miniscule and lower than many other every day things including road accidents.
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@mergendy Even Homer nods. You have tried repeatedly to gaslight saying it's all just paranoia, even though digital ID is here. It was being discussed in Brussels way back in 2010 or so, long before Сονιδ was ever dreamt of. (Yes, I know what you're thinking, but I actually voted to remain in the European Union, despite all its issues.) However, my points stick. This is not a temporary measure. It is not a new idea nor a "раssроrт" It is being implemented across the board in various countries, including the entire EU, and the UK, and various developed countries. My apologies for saying Austria, I blame "the Ausweis". However, it's not like Germany has been a beacon of personal freedom since 1945... east or west, but especially the DDR, which my ex grew up in - even little children had to report on their neighbours back then, including her... This need of our supposedly democratic governments to monitor everyone now reminds of the old Stasi mentality. Zu viel Ordentlichkeit. I can't see any of it ending happily for Germany or any of the rest of us. We've actually had advertisements over here telling us to inform on our neighbours. Some people have done so. People don't learn from history.
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@mergendy @mergendy You gaslight me every time you call me "paranoid". That is exactly what happens in the film "Gas Light", which the term comes from - the main character is continually told that her fears are imaginary, her memory is faulty and that she is basically insane. So, yes, that is gaslighting in a real sense. In this case, you're calling me paranoid even though I see some of the actual infrastructure is already in place. I already have to record my every visit to a pub or cafe, and have the option already of scanning a QR code there. You also tell me I'm paranoid while Boris Johnson is introducing them to nightclubs (good luck with that, Boris), which are attended mostly by an age group which are barely affected by this bug. We have been lied to continually throughout this whole crisis. We were told "three weeks to stop the spread" (I imagine something similar over there), but there is no evidence that lockdown was ever intended to be that short, they just didn't have the courage to say it outright. Віll Gатеs, who for some bizarre reason was the main spokesman for all this claimed in March, last year that these passes were just a "conspiracy theory" yet here they are in reality. We have also been presented with discriminatory and inconsistent policies, which benefit certain businesses e.g. Amazon and punish others. You've never explained how a hundred states come up with the same idea independently. The EU, I can understand... It shares a parliament, but that doesn't explain all the others. Yes, a lot of my points do stick, for the precise reason that they are to be found scattered around the place. These passes have been introduced gradually, as I predicted months ago, and their use extended to more and more areas of life. This has been done under the cover of a crisis, and under the influence of undemocratic and authoritarian influences... All for a disease which leaves the vast majority of the population untouched. I remember twenty years ago that authoritarian elements in the west used Islamic terrorism as a means to forward their aims. Even though historically we had more of a problem with left wing terrorism in the west (Baader-Meinhof, R.A.F. etc) and groups like the I.R.A. than we ever did with Islam.
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@mergendy You asked about my age. I don't really hand out that kind of info online - but put it this way... I broke up with my East German girlfriend around twenty years ago, so your estimate is way out. I really liked her, but she did have one or two very German faults which led to some issues between us. I still think of her sometimes and hope she is happy wherever she is these days. I like many of the Germans I've met, but many of them do defer to authority. I notice this even among "Green" types, and supposed anarchists. I suppose this is because like most of Europe, their ancestors only left feudalism in the recent past. No, I'm afraid I don't see post-war Germany as a beacon of liberty. A large chunk was an open dictatorship in living memory. The West was under military occupation into the nineties, and it too was heavily infiltrated by Communist agents of influence, especially in areas like education and politics, not just in more obvious places like Brandt's government, and universities, but also in the supposed right wing parties, the arts and the green movement. This will have left a mark, I'm afraid.
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@mergendy You've called me paranoid repeatedly, which is precisely what the man does to his wife in "Gas Light". You repeatedly apologise for and justify the abusive behaviour of our governments and their collaborators in big business. They are bankrupting people right now, because they have allowed banks and debt collectors to go after them, while banning them from making any money for months on end. They have also allowed big business to do what it wants while destroying small business. That is what you get when you have a system which allows massive corporations to donate to political parties. Your comparison of these to aeroplanes and television is what is called in philisophy a "category error". Some people have already voluntarily signed up to the track and trace app last year, which is a precursor or Beta version of the pass. It records every social interaction they have,, and their movements are also recorded. Televisions do not do that. p.s. I'm one of the millions of people in the UK who does not live in England. Both the UK and EU are riddled with bureaucracy and anti-democratic elements, with or without Brexit (which I opposed). Either way, both Brussels and London impose thinga on the public without the will of the people. The UK has only existed since 1707 (or is it 1801 or 1921 - an argument for all of these)
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p.p.s. Things are never going back to "normal". That's why we have mantras like "new normal" around the world, and "build back better". It's odd but I found out last year that the repulsive phrase "new normal" is being used in places as far apart as Brazil, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Canada. How did it pop up in all these places at once? 🤔 I'm sure it's being used in Germany too. It is being used here to "normalise" abusive new systems.
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When you pose as egalitarian, but indulge in ageism and snobbery. Well done. 👏
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They are being constantly policed on there, and tracked, so yes he is right. I'd like to say all the opinions being excised off the internet are extreme but they're not.
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And the next and the next...
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I still do dislike him, but that doesn't mean he's wrong. There have been attempts to crush down on freedom from all angles.
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It's not just about "feelings". Fact is that the elite don't care about your feelings either. This is all about divide and conquer in the end. The biggest transfer of wealth and power is being conducted right now and we all punch downwards.
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@chrissibersky4617 There is no such thing as "global equality". The people who put such ideas into your head and "work together" are most opposed to it in practice, like the WEF who aim to keep inequality. You know all that talk about diversity nowadays? Well, the world is less and less diverse by the day. Most major cities are interchangeable, and one can prove statistically languages are dying out at the fastest rate in human history. The result is homogeneity not "diversity". The diversity talk is all cover for that. We now have the biggest transfer of wealth and power going on in human history happening as we speak. Yes, those folk are certainly "working together". The same compulsory digital ID in a hundred countries including UK and we are supposed to believe they came up with it independently. Plus the more power you give a global system the more corrupt it will become. When it becomes oppressive there will be no way to challenge it or get rid of it, and there will be no refugees because there will be nowhere to run to this time.
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p.s. Societies are made of individuals. Disregard their rights and you abuse the entire collective and end up with horrorshows like Mao's China with tens of millions dead.
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All part of the same phenomenon. Do you think it's a coincidence that censorship increases at the same time authoritarianism does? Soon you'll have an ID on your phone to prove you've been stabbed in the arm, and you won't be able to get into shops, libraries, colleges or public transport without it. It's already being introduced in the UK, was used at the Euros, and it will track you everywhere. They want to know everything you do, who you meet and where you are. ςονιδ is just a convenient excuse. The censorship helps them do this - they use woke people as leverage.
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Never mind that, why did he allow an actual card carrying Соммυnιςт onto the SAGE committee. Her name is Prof. Sυsαn Μιсћιε, she regularly appears on TV and only Richard Madeley (of all people!) has ever brought this up in an interview with her. She has been an active member of the СВР since the seventies when visiting Cuba. She has said she want she restrictions to continue, has made positive comments on the Chinese government etc. Could you imagine Maggie Thatcher, despite all her general sћiттiпеss allowing an actual Соммιε to decide what happens to small business, religion or the general population?
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